Mike D'Antoni on the Evolution of Offense | Thinking Basketball
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
- Coach Mike D'Antoni stops by to discuss the origins of Pace and Space, the offensive revolution that has changed NBA strategy in the last decade. We discuss his influences in Italy and the ABA, his time in Phoenix with Steve Nash, the Rockets with James Harden and Chris Paul, and more. Support at www.patreon.com/thinkingbasketball
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so cool that you get to have this conversation with one of the most iconic coaches ever, literally the guy who invented the '7 seconds or less offense' that changed the nba
Curry better
What’s more legendary is thinking basketball was always apart of mikes story And Ben’s story
And it's striking to see how indeed only Thinking Basketball could get, talk and enjoy a guest like D'Antoni.
There would be no point to accept (and hell, he and his thoughts wouldn't get even called) the invite from the popular bums that yap about basketball on YT.
It's not even close with how Ben's cultural value strikes compared to the rest.
So funny you think he's iconic and he literally never won a chip due to having no defense
@@zdthekilla6950 yawn
This man literally revolutionized the game of basketball it is fascinating
This is such a gem. Ben did a great job digging into one of the best minds in the NBA. Its such a shame that this doesnt have more views.
Just shows that people are shallow and just want highlights
@@josipmarasovic7084 But also Ben put this on his new channel which has still very few subscribers, if it was on ain channel probably have 10 times more views
We have a few sections coming up from this show that are enhanced for the main channel.
Why is it a shame?
This is for the basketball history nerds. Super in depth.
Always excited by the Nash Suns and Harden Rockets
A bit of fortune and it nearly had worked against the lauded Golden State Warriors
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Loved hearing Mikes prescriptive on offensive efficiency. Though his ideas may not always pan out he has undoubtedly pushed the game forward.
1000 years from now this will be more important than winning a championship.
@@sorenwestwood1514 even 100 years from now the NBA will cease to exist
@@MightbePettingmyCat if people don't stop destroying the planet, that's probably true no cap.
I love D'Antoni's approach. You don't force players into your system. You built your system around your assets.
@Luke Walker
Name me one coach who can develop 100% for every of his players? I'll wait...
And you really named Howard at this point in his career?
@Luke Walker
Building around Harden was a problem. You are right.
It didn't worked in Houston, Philadelphia and now in Brooklyn...
100% real
@Luke Walker
If you're bringing stats, you are the living proof you didn't watched those years.
Howard admitted he wasn't himself after he left Orlando and he wasn't the best teammate (I paraphrase, but you get the idea).
Howard collected problems with Nash and Kobe during his Lakers first tenure.
You can't be in such denial. Howard changed after he rejoined the Lakers for a second stint. He admitted he had to change.
@Luke Walker
About Pau, he was the best defensive version of himself in the NBA, the best rebounder in the system and the second scoring option of the Lakers. You're playing with Kobe, what else were you expecting?
BTW, after the 2009 NBA Finals, the best version of PAU Gasol was his Bulls days, then with D'Antoni.
Don't forget Pau was crippled with injuries during those purple and gold days!
@user-jt1fp8gq5y It is pretty common knowledge that Howard didn't want to be used as a roll option, so how do you work with that? There were a bunch of issues and t wasn't that he oouldn't outright use them.
Mike look just like in Game of Zones. What a legend.
Lmao 100%
crazy how Mike basically just used intuition most years and always just did what was right for what he felt highlighted his best 5 never would’ve thought his philosophy would be as simple as he made it love the insight
Had to write this comment after 21:14, confirms everything I've felt about how superstars absorb every and ALL narratives around team success (or failure). The TEAM game aspect is highly underserved in NBA sports media. Hearing this brought up by someone of D'Antoni's status was fun - compared to normal media personality analysis.
"Either guy (CP3 or Steve Nash) on your team, you're going to be a hell of a coach" every legendary coach needs their Pop "draft Tim Duncan" quote.
Learning from the best attitude. Pop is such a great coach. Classic quote.
22:38 Yes, it is cultural, mainly where people weirdly treat basketball as a 1 on 1 sport. If you want to look up highlights of a particular game many times the player's highlights are packaged as a "duel" between the other star player which I always thought was a weird way too present highlights. The team is dueling, but individual players are not really "dueling".
This was probably my favorite podcast to listen to. When i saw this on spotify my ears perked up. Imagine saying this when you were making non stylized thumbnails and the podcast didnt even exist.
This video better be recommended to everyone. It was excellent and very insightful. One thing i will say is, you did interrupt him quite a bit more than expected, but with great questions.
The 2004 Suns were built for the post hand checking era. Run and gun offense. Even though they didn’t shoot as many 3’s as teams do now, their pace is now the norm.
This is awesome content!
Thanks!
Boris Diaw was magnificent for the Spurs
Did well guarding LeBron too
Diaw was pulling Horry-level type of values when he was focused.
Love this ! Would love one on defense as well
Thanks for this! Are we gonna get best players of 2021-2022? Please !? Please!?
more of these please
I remember being 12 years old and a friend of mine admired boris diaw to like the highest degree, and always thought it was funny. guess he just saw something i didnt at the time
It's that Fisher and Horry's fascination. Artest's too.
First George Lopez now D'Antoni no one has a wider audience than Ben
Real recognizes real culture.
Great vid
Thanks Geno!
I was expecting some discussion about the Linsanity era on what went wrong and what went right 🤷🏻♂️
Ben we want an update of AD playing at the 5
Please 🙂
Working on it!
@@moreTB sounds good 🔥
18:00 *CARMELO* *ANTHONY* 👀👀👀🤔
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19:40
*CARMELO* *ANTHONY* 👀👀👀🤔
19:39 : any idea who they are talking about specifically ?
I would imagine Kobe
Maybe Melo, basically any chucker though
Ben definitely thinking about Dominique Wilkins and maybe Allen Iverson, but early 2000s Jerry Stackhouse and Chris Webber in general fit this mold to a T.
@@MrMatFuchs Perception of Kobe's efficiency is so fascinating to me. Kobe has a higher Career Relative True Shooting Percentage in both playoffs and Regular Season than Dwyane Wade and Hakeem Olajuwon. Kobe has a higher Career defense adjusted Relative True Shooting Percentage in the Playoffs than both Larry Bird and Tim Duncan. Has the same Career Relative True Shooting Percentage in the Regular Season as Bird and Duncan. Meaning Kobe's efficiency was either better or the same as Wade, Olajuwon, Bird or Duncan, but for some bizarre logic gets viewed as some chucker by some, maybe it has something to do with people who still archaic junk stats like FG%.
@@blacknetsmed Thanks for taking the time to comment. Good insight!
How did you get this?
Why is he not coaching still?
Wonder what he thinks about Don Nelson
Sweet
Wow!
fun fact: 3 points is more than 2 points... fax!!!
if u want to see Bananas Basketball they should get rid of the 3-point line making half-court basketball less productive and putting a premium on fastbreak offense like the early 1960s or the Showtime Lakers in the 1980s... fax!!!
Can you and jj Reddick make an episode togther. Is live to hear you to talk basketball
Totally felt the tension...😬
what tension?
@@dannyou2043 That was just me overreacting to D'Antoni saying that you can't judge coaches so easily near the end.
Why don’t you talk about Anthony Davis anymore
he doesnt play……
Mike D'Antoni had great offensive schemes for the game, but what about a defensive scheme? Other than more offense. This had to be the reason his teams did not win the NBA title.
I think going against the greatest team ever assembled probably has something to do with it too.
He had a good defense in Houston when he had the personnel for it in 2018. If the players are bad defensive players, the team's gonna be bad defensively. It's about the players. Frank Vogel is known as a defensive coach, and had great defenses when he had the personnel for it in 2020, but the Lakers have been bad defensively the past 2 years because their personnel is just not good defensively.
Don Nelson was better
Hoping he’s gonna ask him about being there helping to coach the big 3 nets🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽