Joel and Joe… let’s talk about the fact that sauce still has yet to shadow WR1’s lmao, gabe Davis the first game, yes respectable wideout but it wasn’t Diggs shadow rate was 45%, next two are Jalen Tobert don’t even know who that is 32.4% shadow rate, week 3 is, Kendrick Bourne 44.8% shadow rate, week 4 finally a respectable opponent in Travis kelce at 23.3% shadow rate. This isn’t anywhere near to what Surtain is asked to do, yet PS2’s shadow rate is around 15% higher this season while actually covering WR1’s… and good ones too in Tae week 1 at 64% shadow rate, week 2 vs terry at 31.7% shadow rate, week 3 vs hill at 48.8% shadow rate, week 5 vs DJ at 60.5% shadow rate, and finally week 5 vs Wilson at 69% shadow rate. Take away that one fluke td vs Anderson and individually PS2 vs WR1’s is doing a better job than sauce… he isn’t at PS2’s level, same issue last on why he ain’t CB1… sauce isn’t put against WR1’s and asked to trail them unfortunately
I think it’s important to add in to context here that sauce doesn’t get moved around to shadow other teams WR1s other teams take advantage and just move their WR1 around. Idk why Saleh doesn’t but hey it’s his system and it seems to be working so 🤷🏽♂️
RIV AND DREWS FACES WHILE JOEL IS GOING ON ABOUT THE NINERS LMAO Deadass one of the best parts of this show is visually watching the guys facial expressions while takes are being delivered. Shit is GOLD
Best sports podcast in the world. Y’all’s episodes get me through a bunch of my days and inspire me to pursue a career in sports. Can’t wait to see y’all grow even more in the future 😤
Watch hours are what mean the most boys!!! Not views or subs. You get paid off WATCH HOURS. Nonetheless y'all still my faves and my inspo for doing this shit too.
It’s not a Sean Payton problem. I’m convinced that Sean came here to rebuild a team he wants. Meaning he is not commited to Russel even though he said he was. It’s clear Sean wants a project qb to develop which is ok. Caleb, drake maye, bo nix, or even Quinn.
Joel is hilarious , Riv is the only dude that’s been completely off the broncos the last 2 seasons. Joel picked up to be in the playoffs at the beginning of last year and this year he said he thought sean payton would do good with russ😂 MF never picks sides then takes a victory lap when his half baked takes are right 😭😭 shoutout riv for always picking a side.
1:44:46 Joel would be right here if he were referring to last season. Hurts did have an issue with prematurely bailing from the pocket. However, this season, he has drastically improved in that area. It's even more impressive when you consider that Brian Johnson has implemented a more methodical, pass-heavy offense. Of course, they still maintain a healthy run/pass balance, but Jalen is now being asked to make far more plays from the pocket compared to last season. He has been a scrambling quarterback for most of his football career, so he's still not perfect. However, his poise and presence in the pocket have undeniably improved. In fact, his ability to stand tall in the pocket, go through his progressions, and read defenses has been a significant factor in Philadelphia's ability to overcome some of their underwhelming offensive play so far. These improvements are the reason his scrambling and off-script plays have been so effective this year. He is still getting used to the new offense, so there have been some growing pains. However, if you observe the way Jalen is playing the position this year, I believe he is actually better than last year. I think it will become more evident when all the pieces finally come together. They have improved every week, so I think that will happen sooner than people think.
Appreciate the lions love drew. But I don’t get why you keep saying that the lions don’t have a secondary when our secondary hasn’t been bad. Sutton has been doing his thing, jerry jacobs keeps getting picks, Tracy walker has been holding things down in place of CJGJ. Outside of the Seahawks game we haven’t been lit up . QBs get yards in the sexy half of games after we’re already up by twenty. Our secondary is not bad at all lol
46:50 anybody saying the eagles just whooped the Niners in the playoffs as if anything else would be expected for a team without a Qb should not be taken seriously
Justin Fields has everything against him because if the panthers have the worst record, which they likely will, even if the Bears made the playoffs I could see them saying well damn we made it with this guy, why not get the guy who’s potentially better and we could even further. But if the Bears suck then they’ll say well damn maybe this guy can make us better. But if he can get to the Falcons that might be the perfect situation with Drake London, Kyle Pitts & Bijan Robinson where we could see him excel
Bro c'mon you can't bring up that BS tweet by that "doctor" saying that AR has a "lengthy injury history" - at the end of the day he didn't miss a game from any of those before this season. Mahomes had the same kind of list coming into the league but you wouldn't say that about him. He does need to learn to get down though, I feel like he'll make the adjustments and be fine - these early injuries seem to be freak things tbh
great pod guys, but mannn the Tyquan Thorton hate sucks bro has been hurt , also uhh i feel like the juju signing is getting wayyy more hate then it should i remember no one really caring about the patriots signing juju and letting meyers walk this offseason it feel like purly since one of them is producing and the other isnt people are acting like it was always a bad signing. maybe i gotta rewatch some older pods but i swear one of yall liked the juju signingggg
Idk if Sean Payton is this fraud but I will say that when Sauce went down with an injury and the Jets muffed the punt, the Broncos decided instead of attacking his replacement in the passing game, the run a double reverse which was immediately fumbled. Also Drew can’t have it both ways when he said that Hackett doesn’t get credit for calling runs for Breece to run the ball but all the ball for Zach Wilson throwing a pick. Either he’s smart for using Breece and dumb for having Zach throw or he was a bystander of Breece being great and Zach making a poor decision
Joel , you have to realize mike McDaniel might be able to help the pats offense even being a genius. They need personnel to execute his run scheme that your raving about. The offensive line is horrible and can’t even let Mac get time to throw and can’t get a run game going that was great the past 2 years. Just as much as you say mike McDaniel can transform the pats offense. Bill belichek will transform the dolphins to a elite defense. Same goes both ways. Only reason the pats are failing is because his GM decisions. He spent a lot of money and drafted mac with a great run game and great play caller in josh McDaniels they made the playoffs. They were a elite red zone offense with max as a rookie. It’s not all belichek. He needs to get talent on the offense so max can succeed and get a play caller to maximize them. Like josh McDaniels did. Only issue you can throw on belicheck is his OC hiring and drafting offensive talent.
what drew wont say is how the broncos offense does pretty well in the first half when going on script. in the second half of games off script the offense is garbage. payton also thought hiring joseph was a good idea. from one broncos fan to another, enough with the cope drew. 😂
Well his reasoning for investing in Brock had to do with how well his numbers would look on the niners roster, not how he actually felt how good Brock was, he said that
Because he was the last pick in the draft and was around $3 when I initially invested in him on Mojo. Jimmy G is $30 on Mojo. The growth for Brock Purdy’s stock price was a no brainer
Riv took like 5 minutes to open that Orange Juice
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Dude is in pajama pants texting and saying Jonnu Smith is on the Patriots 🤦🏼♂️
He strugglin’
@@MisterCee420it is good to see they allow special needs to be a part of the pod
@@MisterCee420ay not too much on riv😂 he still knows his shit just not on the level as he knows his nba
He has restless leg syndrome
I work 7pm-7am and y’all keep me going bro! Appreciate y’all’s hard work man ! Ready to see 2024 for you guys
Yuh I work 11p-7a so I feel ya
Amazon?
"Say mike mccarthy and dak prescott are going to the superbowl out loud" was hilarious 😂
Joel outta pocket for that 😂😂😂
I think the no
Most under appreciated part of Brock’s game is his footwork. It’s magical.
Joel and Joe… let’s talk about the fact that sauce still has yet to shadow WR1’s lmao, gabe Davis the first game, yes respectable wideout but it wasn’t Diggs shadow rate was 45%, next two are Jalen Tobert don’t even know who that is 32.4% shadow rate, week 3 is, Kendrick Bourne 44.8% shadow rate, week 4 finally a respectable opponent in Travis kelce at 23.3% shadow rate. This isn’t anywhere near to what Surtain is asked to do, yet PS2’s shadow rate is around 15% higher this season while actually covering WR1’s… and good ones too in Tae week 1 at 64% shadow rate, week 2 vs terry at 31.7% shadow rate, week 3 vs hill at 48.8% shadow rate, week 5 vs DJ at 60.5% shadow rate, and finally week 5 vs Wilson at 69% shadow rate. Take away that one fluke td vs Anderson and individually PS2 vs WR1’s is doing a better job than sauce… he isn’t at PS2’s level, same issue last on why he ain’t CB1… sauce isn’t put against WR1’s and asked to trail them unfortunately
Damn bro was commited. I respect it🙏
Let ‘em know how is the best CB in the nfl
Surtain not even top 3 CBs in the game 🥱
AJ Terrell better
I think it’s important to add in to context here that sauce doesn’t get moved around to shadow other teams WR1s other teams take advantage and just move their WR1 around. Idk why Saleh doesn’t but hey it’s his system and it seems to be working so 🤷🏽♂️
RIV AND DREWS FACES WHILE JOEL IS GOING ON ABOUT THE NINERS LMAO
Deadass one of the best parts of this show is visually watching the guys facial expressions while takes are being delivered. Shit is GOLD
Best sports podcast in the world. Y’all’s episodes get me through a bunch of my days and inspire me to pursue a career in sports. Can’t wait to see y’all grow even more in the future 😤
Joel slippin in that must be nice was gold 😂
This finna be an ALL-TIMER 😂
Full squad back let’s get ittttt🔥🔥🔥
Love the purdy respect! Refreshing to see people coming around to our sweet prince
Watch hours are what mean the most boys!!! Not views or subs. You get paid off WATCH HOURS. Nonetheless y'all still my faves and my inspo for doing this shit too.
Seeing Joel finally come to the side of Purdy
It’s not a Sean Payton problem. I’m convinced that Sean came here to rebuild a team he wants. Meaning he is not commited to Russel even though he said he was. It’s clear Sean wants a project qb to develop which is ok. Caleb, drake maye, bo nix, or even Quinn.
been waiting for this podcast all day
I’m a Bengals fan but 2016 summer was unmatched 😤
Great Purdy Take Drew!! Purdy is coming
Great Purdy Take Drew!!!!!
Joel is hilarious , Riv is the only dude that’s been completely off the broncos the last 2 seasons. Joel picked up to be in the playoffs at the beginning of last year and this year he said he thought sean payton would do good with russ😂 MF never picks sides then takes a victory lap when his half baked takes are right 😭😭 shoutout riv for always picking a side.
Broncos country…Everything hurts
1:44:46 Joel would be right here if he were referring to last season. Hurts did have an issue with prematurely bailing from the pocket. However, this season, he has drastically improved in that area. It's even more impressive when you consider that Brian Johnson has implemented a more methodical, pass-heavy offense. Of course, they still maintain a healthy run/pass balance, but Jalen is now being asked to make far more plays from the pocket compared to last season.
He has been a scrambling quarterback for most of his football career, so he's still not perfect. However, his poise and presence in the pocket have undeniably improved. In fact, his ability to stand tall in the pocket, go through his progressions, and read defenses has been a significant factor in Philadelphia's ability to overcome some of their underwhelming offensive play so far. These improvements are the reason his scrambling and off-script plays have been so effective this year.
He is still getting used to the new offense, so there have been some growing pains. However, if you observe the way Jalen is playing the position this year, I believe he is actually better than last year. I think it will become more evident when all the pieces finally come together. They have improved every week, so I think that will happen sooner than people think.
Durag Dehls gonna hit diff
W crew
this the best shit of all time lmao
Might have to see if I can nab that 300th lol. Great job as always.
the wait seemed like foreeever. Life seems long when your team doesn’t get its way 😢
Appreciate the lions love drew. But I don’t get why you keep saying that the lions don’t have a secondary when our secondary hasn’t been bad. Sutton has been doing his thing, jerry jacobs keeps getting picks, Tracy walker has been holding things down in place of CJGJ. Outside of the Seahawks game we haven’t been lit up . QBs get yards in the sexy half of games after we’re already up by twenty. Our secondary is not bad at all lol
Would love a mma show riv
I thought head coaches were hired to manage the whole team and win games. I didn't know Sean Payton was just the OC.
Say Mike McCarthy and Dak Prescott are going to the Super Bowl out loud
46:50 anybody saying the eagles just whooped the Niners in the playoffs as if anything else would be expected for a team without a Qb should not be taken seriously
Bro dehls likes all 3 of my favorite teams ravens, gators and Celtics
Idc about the stats, its way too early for them to tell the right story. My eyes tell me the Broncos offense stinks.
Justin Fields has everything against him because if the panthers have the worst record, which they likely will, even if the Bears made the playoffs I could see them saying well damn we made it with this guy, why not get the guy who’s potentially better and we could even further. But if the Bears suck then they’ll say well damn maybe this guy can make us better.
But if he can get to the Falcons that might be the perfect situation with Drake London, Kyle Pitts & Bijan Robinson where we could see him excel
The blasphemy against Belichick is absolutely asinine.
If we had a good QB, this wouldn’t even be a discussion.
How bout those Niners!!
Overrated
@@mwebb1525if thats the case every team is overrated
Yo Dehls would be GQ certified with a buzz cut
Here to watch Joel eat his words
Decent little show you guys have. Go Cowboys adcook#1977
The truth is the defense is overrated.
Joey only 80% healthy too... Wait till after the bye week😈😈😈
1:58:00 LOL
drew hates the cowboys damn, lets see other teams/qbs look good against SF
Bro c'mon you can't bring up that BS tweet by that "doctor" saying that AR has a "lengthy injury history" - at the end of the day he didn't miss a game from any of those before this season. Mahomes had the same kind of list coming into the league but you wouldn't say that about him. He does need to learn to get down though, I feel like he'll make the adjustments and be fine - these early injuries seem to be freak things tbh
Man he came over to Brock purdy quick but hates on tua .. lol
great pod guys, but mannn the Tyquan Thorton hate sucks bro has been hurt , also uhh i feel like the juju signing is getting wayyy more hate then it should i remember no one really caring about the patriots signing juju and letting meyers walk this offseason it feel like purly since one of them is producing and the other isnt people are acting like it was always a bad signing. maybe i gotta rewatch some older pods but i swear one of yall liked the juju signingggg
3:17:50 Lol
Drew doesn’t watch Dallas and it shows
Idk if Sean Payton is this fraud but I will say that when Sauce went down with an injury and the Jets muffed the punt, the Broncos decided instead of attacking his replacement in the passing game, the run a double reverse which was immediately fumbled. Also Drew can’t have it both ways when he said that Hackett doesn’t get credit for calling runs for Breece to run the ball but all the ball for Zach Wilson throwing a pick. Either he’s smart for using Breece and dumb for having Zach throw or he was a bystander of Breece being great and Zach making a poor decision
Tell um riv. They still sleep on achane
He’s out for 4 games gang, he’s irrelevant for the next month
@@tristan.2700 respect it
Seahawks never get the respect they deserve lol.
Riv a L mans for lettin my mans Drew gettin jumped like that 😂
Joel , you have to realize mike McDaniel might be able to help the pats offense even being a genius. They need personnel to execute his run scheme that your raving about. The offensive line is horrible and can’t even let Mac get time to throw and can’t get a run game going that was great the past 2 years. Just as much as you say mike McDaniel can transform the pats offense. Bill belichek will transform the dolphins to a elite defense. Same goes both ways. Only reason the pats are failing is because his GM decisions. He spent a lot of money and drafted mac with a great run game and great play caller in josh McDaniels they made the playoffs. They were a elite red zone offense with max as a rookie. It’s not all belichek. He needs to get talent on the offense so max can succeed and get a play caller to maximize them. Like josh McDaniels did. Only issue you can throw on belicheck is his OC hiring and drafting offensive talent.
Yes Bill would elevate the dolphins defense. That’s kind of the point tho. I’d rather an offensive genius than a defensive genius in the modern nfl
I bone McCarthy for Cooks
Drake maye hasn’t even looked like a top 5 QB in college rn you’re strictly going off of what he did last season
Joel and Dehls with all due respect sauce gardner has not been on ps2 level this season
Yes he has
Cole Strange is NOT a good pick Drew, he is a mid ass G right now
TUA 4 MVP
what drew wont say is how the broncos offense does pretty well in the first half when going on script. in the second half of games off script the offense is garbage. payton also thought hiring joseph was a good idea. from one broncos fan to another, enough with the cope drew. 😂
joel brought it up, good to see 😂
If you invest in Brock how are you neutrel?
Well his reasoning for investing in Brock had to do with how well his numbers would look on the niners roster, not how he actually felt how good Brock was, he said that
@@tristan.2700 he's a hater Brock is a borderline top 12 qb imo
@@officialzacht I agree but I’m jus telling u why he originally invested in him, that’s all
Because he was the last pick in the draft and was around $3 when I initially invested in him on Mojo. Jimmy G is $30 on Mojo. The growth for Brock Purdy’s stock price was a no brainer
Couldn’t make it through first 2 mins of video . Guy with nike shirt has restless leg situation. Ruined it
The bears offense is better then the jets offense. DJ Moore is better then Garrett Wilson. Bears Defense is trash bears offense is better then Jets.
cowboys are still pretenders like everyone thought except cowboys fans and one joel 😂
Why u guys talk about the jets and broncos so much, they both gonna miss the playoffs
First lfg