*** UPDATE *** Guys - several of you pointed out that we used the wrong model in our price comparison. I redid the video to reflect the correct model/cost. You guys are sharp - thanks for catching that so early! ROB
@@Dirtyharry70585 That’s the non fuel version. Not the tool they tested, and not worth buying because the m12 fuel is a better tool than the old edition m18.
I think the Ryobi price is wrong too. I think the one you tested was actually the PBLMT50B (One+ HP). But you reference the P343B. The one you tested is $99.
I have multiple Batteries for Ryobi and Milwaukee so its a no brainer. I will get the Milwaukee. A neighbor borrowed my corded Dewalt Multitool but not the bag and kit for it to cut away a door Jamb and denies ever seeing it among the tools borrowed. I love their family and will not complain too much but they will never be granted access to my shop. Ryobi is fine but I am a true Blue Milwaukee guy. Ryobi dollar for dollar is a great value,
This is a really incredible video. I'm not a contractor. I'm a homeowner and I own zero tools (well not really, I have a full woodshop of antique hand tools--I have no powertools). I needed a multi-tool for a small job and I wanted the best option. I think one thing this comparison doesn't really consider is the tool brand eco-system. I was buying into a new system, buying my first ever battery and charger. Because of this, I decided on the DeWalt. I would have loved the Milwaukee, but looking at the cost, and the cost of their other tools, it seemed to make sense to go with DeWalt--all their tools are 10-50% less in cost, and also well regarded and sell well on used markets. I hope I made the right choice!
This video is THE BEST review that I have ever seen about a Multitool. It showed the best tools in the market, reason for scores and it was by far extremely well edited and narrated. Above and beyond work that was done here!
For me, the only tools in this test i would are the ones that can take starlock max. So feil, festool or makita(maybe flex also but i live i europe so...). The system has much better transmission of power and can take longer blades and it Will last alot longer. In the future this will become the standard like sds has become. With the longer blades you get more movement, from the oscilation and better cuttingspeed. I don't think this is pointed out or tested here. But i must say, i love your h2h test and all the other stuf you do at Toolbox buzz. Thanks for your hard work👍
Again guys another great test, I am vested in Makita so I was a little disappointed that it did, int do better which really speaks to how much competition there is in the cordless tool industry right now, I ve been using Makita since the 1970,s and the cordless drills since the early 1980,s and they have always "Paid for themselves" .
You can get a battery adapter so you can run a DeWalt or Milwaukee tool with Makita battery or vice versa. I run DeWalt but Makita has some very refined and very unique tools. So to make that jump I just buy the coffee maker and adapter hook my DeWalt battery and I am happy
had the dewalt for years and just switched to the new Milwaukee. i miss the dewalt , that variable speed trigger makes it a scalpel. the Milwaukee is like a caffinated sawzall.
No surprise who won. As a builder in the real world what matters is the tools ability to cut wood, and nails fast , comfortable to use and fast blade changes. A variable trigger is all that’s needed no other features. Milwaukee won with a brand new tool and Dewalt is really second with a 6 yr old tool which goes to show that when Dewalt makes tools they take their time and get them right the first time not three generations of the tool later. Also you know you can buy the Dewalt oscillator, 1 battery, charger and bag for $99 all the time throughout the year and right now. Appreciate the testing to reaffirm how great the dewalt tools are 6 yrs later.
FYI... @ 16:49 the Milwaukee is listed as 2626-20 which is NOT the Fuel version you tested. The Fuel version is 2836-20. Like an idiot, I blindly purchased the 2626-20 on sale and found it vibrates pretty bad.
Milwaukee has come along way. They have never let me down. Very good tools. Thanks for the comparison test. It will does help people to make good decisions in buying future tools for there shops or diy jobs.
For anyone who has trouble with the Matabo HPT blade change, if you use open back blades there is a sweet spot with the pin where it can be lose enough to get the blades in and out without using the unlock collar and still have the blade be tight. It can be a pain to get the pin set in the right spot but once you do blade changes a quite fast. I opinion on the tool is that it is well made and a good value, but the more expensive offerings from other brands are better. I got mine on sale at Lowes with the 18v framing nailer for $300, I would not buy it on it's own. I love the review(s).
no need to apologize for not being a professional testing company , which by the way i would wonder if there is a bias , you guys are just like us in the field everyday using the tool not testing the tool . Great comparison , i have the festool and dewalt . i think the festool has less vibration .
I had the Dewalt and I loved the blade change but hated the ergonomics vibration and the trigger. Got the m12 which is unbelievable except for runtime, just got the m18 and it blew me away I’m not surprised at all to see it come out on top here. Great work thanks guys!
How about a review of the cheaper end to show how bad they are in comparison, Bauer etc? Would be helpful for homeowners who only need a few times a year.
Thanks for the I depth comparison. This might be the nail in the coffin for my Ridgid system. I’ve been thinking about stepping up to Milwaukee already. I have the previous generation of the Ridgid oscillating tool and while it’s great to have this tool for the batteries I have, it’s a nightmare. Bounces around, overheats, etc.
hearing damage is cumulative your whole life long and can occur in just 30 seconds of exposure at 115 decibels. thanks for making this important metric part of your testing.
Great test criteria.....However as a follow up I would absolutely love to see you add two additional tests. On the cutting of wood and metal cutting perform the tests with the ideal (for each brand of tool) cutting pressure on the sled platform as a weaker tool or one with a longer stroke will generally perform better with a lower blade pressure but will loose its lead and often will fall behind when the pressure on the tool is increased. As far as noise level I would assume that having the tool mounted in the jig may well be altering the results of the test......this is one test where doing a dual test first with sled/jig and second with the tool in the hands of various operators (average the results) may produce different and more accurate real world results. Please don't take the comments negatively your reviews are the best out there, I just feel these few changes may be beneficial.
That might explain the weird no load noise measure of Milwaukee despite having variable speed control. The insane difference in cutting speed is so baffling that I'm amazed it wouldn't be a bigger talking point, why would any professional use anything other than Milwaukee multitool when it saves so much time. Noise is far less of an issue in a construction site. Now I don't have any knowledge in this field, so maybe Im missing something, but it comes across that something is not right in the speed test.
I watch you guys and VCG construction for my buying decisions. I got to give it up to yuns, you provide the most accurate, legitimate, what can these tools do testing. I'm sure many hours went into setting this review up. Great work.
I saw the sneak peak the other day and couldn't wait for the real thing. Thanks for your hard work and dedication that's why I subscribed to this channel
The advantage of starlock vs OIS (pins) is that you can run longer blades that woukd break the pins on OIS platform. I have the bosch which is better built than makita and totally solid. Only downside is the straight battery i.e. no kink up at end.
Great review as always. I really appreciate how comprehensive and solid your testing is for these H2H. One thing I was disappointed wasn't mentioned was the very useful accessories available for the Festool OSC18. I have both it and the Milwaukee, and when it comes to precision work, especially for trim carpentry, I reach for it every time. Add the dust shroud, depth stop, and plunge guide, and it's on a whole other level compared to the others. Sure, it's not as fast and powerful like the Milwaukee, which I also have and use primary for demo and exterior work, but it is smooth, precise and easy on the hand.
@@ConcordCarpenter That's true. However, the fact that they exist and are significant accessories could have definitely added some points in favor of precision/usability categories. Granted, they are extras and add to the cost. Bit, it really does set the OSC18 on another level IMHO. But again, overall a great review. Your data in these H2H often factor heavily into buying decisions for my little carpentry business and are incredible. Keep it up!
@@j.thewoodcraftninja3918 I just remembered my Flex has a depth stop that I should test out. I am not impressed with the Festool accuracy and think the Flex has out gun it. Milwaukee and accuracy does go hand in hand
Joshua, have you ever seen a Festool OMT outside a cabinet shop or trim carpenter's(who's invested elsewhere in Festool) tools? They're not marketed to the common man. I like the way that Rob and his team didn't give Festool extra points for an area that most people will never venture into.
Holy shit, the milwaukee is loud asf in idle stance. Decibels are in logarithmic scale, 3dB higher means twice as loud and that hold true for every next 3dB step. From makita to Milwaukee that's a freaking massive difference!
I always love your reviews. Unfortunately I have been in the Ridgid Battery lineup for years. All no the best I have to many to change now. I do like the Milwaukee tools.
Rob, enjoyed the video wish you mentioned something about the blade length options. I owned the DeWalt without the speed change, and used the new Milwaukee My boss bought me a vecturo when he broke my DeWalt that was 7 years old. The ability to use starlock max blades is huge, and makes these tools insanely more useful for troublesome hard to reach cuts in awkward spots. I absolutely hated the blade change on the Milwaukee and preferred a 7 year old DeWalt to it in real life applications. Still currently hate the location of the power switch on the festool and accidentally turn off while using regularly
My biggest gripe with the Dewalt is the crazy vibration and the fact that you have a trigger. If I am correct all the other tools are turned on and can be used in any position except the Dewalt because the trigger has to be held on while in operation.
Now I understand why it has been soooo hard to buy Imperial Blade iBoat360, you bought them out for this testing. (your forgiven), since you know, the quality found in every blade. Excellent test with a wide range of Multi-tools and tests some very impressive.
Performance testing is great, i love these videos and they are helpful. I wish you could test quality and how long they last. A tool is an investment. Construction tools go through hell and a tool that last is important. I would buy one with less features and mid range performance if i know its gona last longer
Take a look at the new Milwaukee M12 Fuel Multi-Tool. I like it a lot. It’s very powerful,low vibration and light weight. I like it much more than the Dewalt XR Multi-Tool, which I gave to my son.
Thanks from a newcomer into DIY! I appreciate that you did your work with these multi tools, so I didn’t have to!! Taking your advice and getting one of the top three.
I've had the corded Ridgid for years and use it almost daily....what the heck did we do before the multi tool. I know I swore alot more before the multi tool.
I'll stick with my Festool Vecturo cordless. it's dust collection and accessories makes it a standout in the pack, and allow me to use the tool inside finished spaces without worry of a mess. The plunge adapter with depth stop makes it way more accurate and easier to use when plunge cutting for cabinet installation, box cutouts, and for the cherry on top, when a client you roll in, and attach a dust collector to your tools, they immediately appreciate that effort to keep their home clean and free from debris, which helps you to stand out from the competition. This one factor has led to so much return business, it has paid for my tools many times over. Additionally, the 3 year all inclusive warranty from Festool is the only warranty in the industry that covers theft. Can't beat that with a stick!
It's remarkable how closely the final ranking for these tools matches Project Farm's rankings, even given how different the relative speeds are for some of the tools. The Ryobi was lower here than on PF but other than that it was almost spot on
FYI, some of the information on the Makita was for XMT03 but it looks like you tested the newer XMT04. The price chart in the video and some info on your website (e.g. 3.2 degrees vs 3.6 are also mixed up)
I bought the DeWalt years ago and it's been great but I'm already to invested in the yellow to change now haha. I love tool comparisons so much competition out there.
No reason to change , dewalt makes the best tools for framing, construction, finish work. Milwaukee is for plumbing, hvac and mechanics allow dewalt 12v is catching up.
Fantastic evaluations! Thorough and well designed tests. Also, Rob does a great job at speaking clearly and succinctly. I’ll definitely be watching other tool reviews from your site. 👍👍👍
As a self-employed gardener, I don't use these tools very often, but thinking about replacing my corded Stanley . Recently bought the Milwaukee M12 hatchet, so now on the platform. Would you recommend the M12 fuel multi tool?
You guys have amazing tool head to head reviews. I think it would be valuable if you guys kept a running total on your website of which manufacturers scored 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. in an attempt to find out which is the best overall tool brand to go with if you were looking to buy into a new battery platform from scratch.
Who owns only one battery platform? There are also battery adapters available in the aftermarket. Buy the "best" tool in the category that you are shopping.
@@pheloniousmunk I would imagine that a LOT of people only own one battery platform. I have an extremely well fitted shop, and I still have tools from only 2 companies, with 1 of the 2 companies being only a few tools that aren't offered by the main company.
@@Subsonic-cd2en Ironic that you're replying to my question of who owns only one battery platform by telling me that you have two. 🤣 You get it....but you're denying it.
It's interesting the Festool ended ranked 3 places above the Fein, since they're actually the same machine, just with a different case, and the Festool is (according to your previous table) 97% more expensive. So, the *same* machine, priced almost *2x higher...* is better?
Thank you. You guy's make my life easier. It not easy to make a choice when you already have multi brand platform 😅😅. Makita ,Dewalt and Milwaukee. Thanks again. Awesome video..
If you want the absolute best tools for the job it is impossible to use only one brand. I am using Milwaukee, Flex and I use Ridgid wet dry vacuum and their 12" miter saw because it goes up to 70°
I'm in the same boat but also have Metabo/HPT in addition to the Makita, DeWalt, and Milwaukee. As always, these TBB HTH tests are very insightful and useful.
@@pheloniousmunk just picked up a DeWalt drywall gun kit. I tried a few other including Ridgid and Milwaukee and was surprised how comfortable and easy this gun felt in my hands so I just added yet another manufacturer. Lol.
By chance- generally speaking are all of these reliable? I would imagine there all pretty bulletproof but I wondered if any one is typically more bulletproof than say another.
Looks like the Ryobi p/n is inaccurate, possibly from an older video. Seems like prices might be off on some these other ones too. I know this is a year old, but did prices really double since then? 2836-20 Milwaukee is $229 tool only at home depot.
@@rtgray7 the company that make Skills has it at the bottom of their list and this is how it stack up. Flex is number 1 Kobalt is number 2 Skills is last
6:41 Given that speed and power is affected by battery size, is there any reason why battery size wasn't standardised more across the models? On this test the sizes range from 3ah to 5ah, with Fein the only models using 3ah.
Pretty interesting shootout I own the Milwaukee m12 and metabo hpt now. I hate the metabo because of the blade change. I used to have all DeWalt stuff but it had the least oscillating of any I've ever had. It took forever to cut through something.
The M12 Fuel is an amazing multi-tool, by far my favorite I've owned. Only slightly less powerful than the M18, but with far better balance and weight.
Darn I own the newest Skil and a Kobalt that is a couple years old. Was so hoping they'd be on here. I think they'd compare well, especially the Skil. Another great video guys!
@@rickyperkins232 Well I was just being polite. They're actually more than comparable and are better than most, especially the Skil. I know the Skil is better than the DeWalt which ranked high. The Kobalt is on par with the DeWalt. The tool/battery for these are near half the price of the Milwaukee and DeWalt. So it was a mistake to not include these two really good, more economic tools.
Still going strong with the reviews guys, great job and thanks. The only thing I would recommend you consider is maybe providing a recommendation/comment for which tool would be suit the main trades. But otherwise really enjoy your reviews.
I noticed Rob you breezed over the Milwaukee blade clamp system, convenient or not it is a poor design and unscrewing a screw ( which can come out) is slow. If the flip lever were to lock the blade in place that would be a winner.
I think you have the wrong ryobi model number for the tool you used. I typed in that model and it's not the one+ hp model, it's the cheap brushed model. The model you have is the pblmt50b which sells for $119. It seems ryobi has a handful of multi tool models.
Would love to see how the M12 Fuel compares. Happy with my DeWalt but I hope the next iteration turns the battery 90* and has better vibration control.
I've watched this multiple times and even decided on a Milwaukee M12 fuel based on this, personal experience with the M18 fuel and other reviews. But then I actually tried the new Makita XMT04ZB myself and as a result, returned the Milwaukee tool after using the new Makita. My personal experience didn't make sense in comparison, so I watched this video again and just saw the possible reason that none of this testing has jibed with other reviewers when compared directly against the Makita XMT04ZB shown in the video. At 16:49 a list of the price comparisons shows the old Makita XMT03Z in the price ranking, not the latest XMT04ZB. So what gives? Did you guys actually test the latest XMT04ZB in your hands or did you just add some footage in afterward and assume the specs would be close to the old XMT03Z? I can tell you they are not at all the same. The M18 fuel definitely has low vibration compared to a multitool without decoupling, and it does deserve its high ranking as a fast and powerful multitool, but there's no way the Makita ranks lower in noise or vibration when compared to Milwaukee. So I question this testing and ranking accuracy here. If you're looking for a quieter and very low vibration tool, the Makita XMT04ZB definitely out performs the Milwaukee in that respect, and for me personally, that's far more important than the slight speed advantage the Milwaukee fuel has.
Hey Rob I'm still waiting for a updated hammer drill and impact head to head whenever you guys can get to it. These Head to head videos are the reason I subscribed to this channel. I know it takes time and hard work but it's worth it and I can't wait to see it
Thank you for good testing and analysis. Very informative for armature first multitool buyer like me. Unfortunately, for me, I find this report 2 days after I placed an order to BOSCH, DIY 18V model. I will check your report next too I consider to buy. However, I am Japanese user and buying mostly from Japanese market.
I luv the Milwaukee 12V fuel but converted one of our Metabo HPT over to the triangle detail sander and it absolutely shines and eats up wood For $79 it outperforms some all of my other detail sander including our new 12V Milwaukee which is also nice but not as powerful in sanding
P.s how TF does Bosch drop the ball like this? Bosch , fien and festoon were the originators and starlock is Boschs’ proprietary tech but they are almost on the bottom of the heap.
*** UPDATE ***
Guys - several of you pointed out that we used the wrong model in our price comparison. I redid the video to reflect the correct model/cost. You guys are sharp - thanks for catching that so early! ROB
50 dollars or so did seem crazy.
@@orijimi I want to be accurate so it was worth removing and editing. Thanks! ROB
@@orijimi HD has the Milwaukee with battery and charger for $99
@@Dirtyharry70585 That’s the non fuel version. Not the tool they tested, and not worth buying because the m12 fuel is a better tool than the old edition m18.
I think the Ryobi price is wrong too. I think the one you tested was actually the PBLMT50B (One+ HP). But you reference the P343B. The one you tested is $99.
I have multiple Batteries for Ryobi and Milwaukee so its a no brainer. I will get the Milwaukee. A neighbor borrowed my corded Dewalt Multitool but not the bag and kit for it to cut away a door Jamb and denies ever seeing it among the tools borrowed. I love their family and will not complain too much but they will never be granted access to my shop. Ryobi is fine but I am a true Blue Milwaukee guy. Ryobi dollar for dollar is a great value,
This is a really incredible video. I'm not a contractor. I'm a homeowner and I own zero tools (well not really, I have a full woodshop of antique hand tools--I have no powertools). I needed a multi-tool for a small job and I wanted the best option. I think one thing this comparison doesn't really consider is the tool brand eco-system. I was buying into a new system, buying my first ever battery and charger. Because of this, I decided on the DeWalt. I would have loved the Milwaukee, but looking at the cost, and the cost of their other tools, it seemed to make sense to go with DeWalt--all their tools are 10-50% less in cost, and also well regarded and sell well on used markets. I hope I made the right choice!
I really don’t understand how anyone can actually dislike these videos
As usual, the best head to head evaluations around.
In terms of youtube reviews and tests, you most certainly are professionals.
Spectacular work
This video is THE BEST review that I have ever seen about a Multitool. It showed the best tools in the market, reason for scores and it was by far extremely well edited and narrated. Above and beyond work that was done here!
For me, the only tools in this test i would are the ones that can take starlock max. So feil, festool or makita(maybe flex also but i live i europe so...). The system has much better transmission of power and can take longer blades and it Will last alot longer. In the future this will become the standard like sds has become. With the longer blades you get more movement, from the oscilation and better cuttingspeed. I don't think this is pointed out or tested here.
But i must say, i love your h2h test and all the other stuf you do at Toolbox buzz.
Thanks for your hard work👍
Again guys another great test, I am vested in Makita so I was a little disappointed that it did, int do better which really speaks to how much competition there is in the cordless tool industry right now, I ve been using Makita since the 1970,s and the cordless drills since the early 1980,s and they have always "Paid for themselves" .
Since I have other Makita 18V max tools I would like to get Makita also. Any regrets? For general purpose renovations. Should I get a corded instead?
You can get a battery adapter so you can run a DeWalt or Milwaukee tool with Makita battery or vice versa. I run DeWalt but Makita has some very refined and very unique tools. So to make that jump I just buy the coffee maker and adapter hook my DeWalt battery and I am happy
@@snowwalker9999 I am very happy with my makita multitool, highly recommend. I got the brushless one.
had the dewalt for years and just switched to the new Milwaukee.
i miss the dewalt , that variable speed trigger makes it a scalpel. the Milwaukee is like a caffinated sawzall.
No surprise who won. As a builder in the real world what matters is the tools ability to cut wood, and nails fast , comfortable to use and fast blade changes. A variable trigger is all that’s needed no other features.
Milwaukee won with a brand new tool and Dewalt is really second with a 6 yr old tool which goes to show that when Dewalt makes tools they take their time and get them right the first time not three generations of the tool later.
Also you know you can buy the Dewalt oscillator, 1 battery, charger and bag for $99 all the time throughout the year and right now.
Appreciate the testing to reaffirm how great the dewalt tools are 6 yrs later.
Thank you for your effort and showing what is best without the worry of losing advertisers.
FYI... @ 16:49 the Milwaukee is listed as 2626-20 which is NOT the Fuel version you tested. The Fuel version is 2836-20. Like an idiot, I blindly purchased the 2626-20 on sale and found it vibrates pretty bad.
Milwaukee has come along way. They have never let me down. Very good tools. Thanks for the comparison test. It will does help people to make good decisions in buying future tools for there shops or diy jobs.
I love that you guys threw in the flex. As always I trust you to give me honest opinions from real pros.
Forgone conclusion for me, already on the Milwaukee platform. It's a guilty pleasure to watch your test, keep up the good work 👍
As always - best review with all the big brands included. You guys are one of the few channels where I watch ALL your reviews. Thanks
For anyone who has trouble with the Matabo HPT blade change, if you use open back blades there is a sweet spot with the pin where it can be lose enough to get the blades in and out without using the unlock collar and still have the blade be tight. It can be a pain to get the pin set in the right spot but once you do blade changes a quite fast. I opinion on the tool is that it is well made and a good value, but the more expensive offerings from other brands are better. I got mine on sale at Lowes with the 18v framing nailer for $300, I would not buy it on it's own.
I love the review(s).
Thanks for this bit of info - helpful!,,
I have the Dewalt XR and been pretty happy with it. It seems to have done well in most tests except vibration.
Awesome test setup! I wish more people would give tools such a fair comparison.
no need to apologize for not being a professional testing company , which by the way i would wonder if there is a bias , you guys are just like us in the field everyday using the tool not testing the tool . Great comparison , i have the festool and dewalt . i think the festool has less vibration .
I had the Dewalt and I loved the blade change but hated the ergonomics vibration and the trigger. Got the m12 which is unbelievable except for runtime, just got the m18 and it blew me away I’m not surprised at all to see it come out on top here. Great work thanks guys!
What did you like in the M18 over the M12?
@@kaleb_barbour3 The soft start feature much better run time and the LED lights are the only real differences.
Rob, you guys do a stellar job. So informative and helpful, you’re the best channel at what you do. Thanks!
How about a review of the cheaper end to show how bad they are in comparison, Bauer etc? Would be helpful for homeowners who only need a few times a year.
I've been looking forward to this. Love the comprehensive head to head tests, because it is something very few people have the opportunity to do.
Wow the amount of work behind this video its incredible mikwaukee multi tool is crazy
Love this! You should do a collaboration with Project Farm-should make for an interesting head-to-head video.
Thanks for the I depth comparison. This might be the nail in the coffin for my Ridgid system. I’ve been thinking about stepping up to Milwaukee already. I have the previous generation of the Ridgid oscillating tool and while it’s great to have this tool for the batteries I have, it’s a nightmare. Bounces around, overheats, etc.
hearing damage is cumulative your whole life long and can occur in just 30 seconds of exposure at 115 decibels. thanks for making this important metric part of your testing.
I love you in-depth and unbiased reviews. I watch all of these even if I don’t plan on buying the tool you are reviewing.
@@dahut3614 What are you seven?
Great test criteria.....However as a follow up I would absolutely love to see you add two additional tests.
On the cutting of wood and metal cutting perform the tests with the ideal (for each brand of tool) cutting pressure on the sled platform as a weaker tool or one with a longer stroke will generally perform better with a lower blade pressure but will loose its lead and often will fall behind when the pressure on the tool is increased.
As far as noise level I would assume that having the tool mounted in the jig may well be altering the results of the test......this is one test where doing a dual test first with sled/jig and second with the tool in the hands of various operators (average the results) may produce different and more accurate real world results.
Please don't take the comments negatively your reviews are the best out there, I just feel these few changes may be beneficial.
That might explain the weird no load noise measure of Milwaukee despite having variable speed control.
The insane difference in cutting speed is so baffling that I'm amazed it wouldn't be a bigger talking point, why would any professional use anything other than Milwaukee multitool when it saves so much time. Noise is far less of an issue in a construction site.
Now I don't have any knowledge in this field, so maybe Im missing something, but it comes across that something is not right in the speed test.
I watch you guys and VCG construction for my buying decisions. I got to give it up to yuns, you provide the most accurate, legitimate, what can these tools do testing. I'm sure many hours went into setting this review up. Great work.
Thx brother
If I'm not mistaken, the Flex only has a lifetime warranty if bought and registered before the end of this year.
Think so!
Yes must be purchased and registered by the end of year , after that 5 year warranty
I saw the sneak peak the other day and couldn't wait for the real thing. Thanks for your hard work and dedication that's why I subscribed to this channel
The advantage of starlock vs OIS (pins) is that you can run longer blades that woukd break the pins on OIS platform. I have the bosch which is better built than makita and totally solid. Only downside is the straight battery i.e. no kink up at end.
Great review as always. I really appreciate how comprehensive and solid your testing is for these H2H. One thing I was disappointed wasn't mentioned was the very useful accessories available for the Festool OSC18. I have both it and the Milwaukee, and when it comes to precision work, especially for trim carpentry, I reach for it every time. Add the dust shroud, depth stop, and plunge guide, and it's on a whole other level compared to the others. Sure, it's not as fast and powerful like the Milwaukee, which I also have and use primary for demo and exterior work, but it is smooth, precise and easy on the hand.
No one touched Festool in accessories, not much of a contest there
@@ConcordCarpenter That's true. However, the fact that they exist and are significant accessories could have definitely added some points in favor of precision/usability categories. Granted, they are extras and add to the cost. Bit, it really does set the OSC18 on another level IMHO.
But again, overall a great review. Your data in these H2H often factor heavily into buying decisions for my little carpentry business and are incredible. Keep it up!
@@j.thewoodcraftninja3918 I just remembered my Flex has a depth stop that I should test out. I am not impressed with the Festool accuracy and think the Flex has out gun it. Milwaukee and accuracy does go hand in hand
Joshua, have you ever seen a Festool OMT outside a cabinet shop or trim carpenter's(who's invested elsewhere in Festool) tools? They're not marketed to the common man. I like the way that Rob and his team didn't give Festool extra points for an area that most people will never venture into.
Holy shit, the milwaukee is loud asf in idle stance. Decibels are in logarithmic scale, 3dB higher means twice as loud and that hold true for every next 3dB step. From makita to Milwaukee that's a freaking massive difference!
I always love your reviews. Unfortunately I have been in the Ridgid Battery lineup for years. All no the best I have to many to change now. I do like the Milwaukee tools.
Rob, enjoyed the video wish you mentioned something about the blade length options.
I owned the DeWalt without the speed change, and used the new Milwaukee
My boss bought me a vecturo when he broke my DeWalt that was 7 years old.
The ability to use starlock max blades is huge, and makes these tools insanely more useful for troublesome hard to reach cuts in awkward spots.
I absolutely hated the blade change on the Milwaukee and preferred a 7 year old DeWalt to it in real life applications.
Still currently hate the location of the power switch on the festool and accidentally turn off while using regularly
My biggest gripe with the Dewalt is the crazy vibration and the fact that you have a trigger. If I am correct all the other tools are turned on and can be used in any position except the Dewalt because the trigger has to be held on while in operation.
The dewalt has 3 speed settings that can be locked on each speed so it has the best of both worlds dewalt for the win
Rob and Crew: Very precise testing, and ranking. Your work is definitely appreciated!
Now I understand why it has been soooo hard to buy Imperial Blade iBoat360, you bought them out for this testing. (your forgiven), since you know, the quality found in every blade.
Excellent test with a wide range of Multi-tools and tests some very impressive.
Performance testing is great, i love these videos and they are helpful. I wish you could test quality and how long they last. A tool is an investment. Construction tools go through hell and a tool that last is important. I would buy one with less features and mid range performance if i know its gona last longer
Thanks for the edit/update Rob! I wish the fuel was that much I'd probably buy another for my small crew.
In-depth review as always. Won't be unhappy getting the new Milwaukee when my old one gives up.
Take a look at the new Milwaukee M12 Fuel Multi-Tool. I like it a lot. It’s very powerful,low vibration and light weight. I like it much more than the Dewalt XR Multi-Tool, which I gave to my son.
@@martylucas8557 agree, love my m12. think the blade change could be better, but it's a small complaint for me personally
Thanks from a newcomer into DIY! I appreciate that you did your work with these multi tools, so I didn’t have to!! Taking your advice and getting one of the top three.
I've had the corded Ridgid for years and use it almost daily....what the heck did we do before the multi tool. I know I swore alot more before the multi tool.
I put up my makita multi tool
And use my chisel now
Everytime somebody says do you want the multi i say
This is the original multi tool…..
I'll stick with my Festool Vecturo cordless. it's dust collection and accessories makes it a standout in the pack, and allow me to use the tool inside finished spaces without worry of a mess. The plunge adapter with depth stop makes it way more accurate and easier to use when plunge cutting for cabinet installation, box cutouts, and for the cherry on top, when a client you roll in, and attach a dust collector to your tools, they immediately appreciate that effort to keep their home clean and free from debris, which helps you to stand out from the competition. This one factor has led to so much return business, it has paid for my tools many times over. Additionally, the 3 year all inclusive warranty from Festool is the only warranty in the industry that covers theft. Can't beat that with a stick!
The higher price for the Festool pays for your 'theft' coverage...
Do you really need to worry about dust collection when using a multi tool???
Own 3 tools on the bosch 18v system but won"t be getting the gop 28 , i"ll stick with my 40-30 corded , good vid :)
Thank you for all your effort making this video, appreciate it.
It's remarkable how closely the final ranking for these tools matches Project Farm's rankings, even given how different the relative speeds are for some of the tools. The Ryobi was lower here than on PF but other than that it was almost spot on
FYI, some of the information on the Makita was for XMT03 but it looks like you tested the newer XMT04. The price chart in the video and some info on your website (e.g. 3.2 degrees vs 3.6 are also mixed up)
I bought the DeWalt years ago and it's been great but I'm already to invested in the yellow to change now haha. I love tool comparisons so much competition out there.
No reason to change , dewalt makes the best tools for framing, construction, finish work. Milwaukee is for plumbing, hvac and mechanics allow dewalt 12v is catching up.
@@jncn1490 How is the 12V? I only have 20V, I heard good things but haven't pulled the trigger on any.
@@DR-ZBrian love my 12v gear. However with the new powerstack batteries not sure there is any point to 12v anymore.
Fantastic evaluations! Thorough and well designed tests. Also, Rob does a great job at speaking clearly and succinctly. I’ll definitely be watching other tool reviews from your site. 👍👍👍
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I agree John. Their testing and videos are head and shoulders above most others. My favorite ovverall.
Great test, I just noted that Ryobi is not $49 bare tool. The P343B model you listed is an older brushed model.
Great video it's been 6 days since this was posted not a single dislike on the video you guys are unmatched when it comes to tool testing
Thanks Al
Another great review! Always come here when I’m looking to buy a new tool
Thanks
I like the dewalt xr but I’ve used the Milwaukee m12 and it seems the vibration was less
No HP battery for the ryobi?
There is an adapter for the DeWalt to use closed back cutters.
As a self-employed gardener, I don't use these tools very often, but thinking about replacing my corded Stanley . Recently bought the Milwaukee M12 hatchet, so now on the platform. Would you recommend the M12 fuel multi tool?
I have the Milwaukee M18 and the Festool, 2 great devices. I find the Festool the most pleasant to work with.
You guys have amazing tool head to head reviews. I think it would be valuable if you guys kept a running total on your website of which manufacturers scored 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. in an attempt to find out which is the best overall tool brand to go with if you were looking to buy into a new battery platform from scratch.
Who owns only one battery platform? There are also battery adapters available in the aftermarket. Buy the "best" tool in the category that you are shopping.
@@pheloniousmunk I would imagine that a LOT of people only own one battery platform. I have an extremely well fitted shop, and I still have tools from only 2 companies, with 1 of the 2 companies being only a few tools that aren't offered by the main company.
@@Subsonic-cd2en Ironic that you're replying to my question of who owns only one battery platform by telling me that you have two. 🤣 You get it....but you're denying it.
best reviews around, period!
Milwaukee M18 Fuel is not $109. More like $209. If you can find it for $109, I’d really like to know. I’d go buy that right now
I own the Milwaukee and it is a beast!
It's interesting the Festool ended ranked 3 places above the Fein, since they're actually the same machine, just with a different case, and the Festool is (according to your previous table) 97% more expensive.
So, the *same* machine, priced almost *2x higher...* is better?
Correct better components
Thanks for the work guys! Been very happy with my Milwaukee FUEL, love the power!
Thank you. You guy's make my life easier. It not easy to make a choice when you already have multi brand platform 😅😅. Makita ,Dewalt and Milwaukee. Thanks again. Awesome video..
Thanks for the comments
If you want the absolute best tools for the job it is impossible to use only one brand. I am using Milwaukee, Flex and I use Ridgid wet dry vacuum and their 12" miter saw because it goes up to 70°
I'm in the same boat but also have Metabo/HPT in addition to the Makita, DeWalt, and Milwaukee. As always, these TBB HTH tests are very insightful and useful.
@@pheloniousmunk just picked up a DeWalt drywall gun kit. I tried a few other including Ridgid and Milwaukee and was surprised how comfortable and easy this gun felt in my hands so I just added yet another manufacturer. Lol.
@@rickyperkins232 it's a vicious affliction!
Thank you so much for all the time and effort you put into these tests.
By chance- generally speaking are all of these reliable? I would imagine there all pretty bulletproof but I wondered if any one is typically more bulletproof than say another.
What also matters to me is using a battery system of tools that I already have. Batteries really add up in money and space in shop and kit.
Nice testing rig ! The best way to do the proper testing!
Bravo Team! I've watched this twice already. Incredible work, efforts and Data! 👍👍👍
Fantastic review, fellas.
Looks like the Ryobi p/n is inaccurate, possibly from an older video. Seems like prices might be off on some these other ones too. I know this is a year old, but did prices really double since then? 2836-20 Milwaukee is $229 tool only at home depot.
Man, Skil gets no love. Their multi tool is a great one and I would've loved to see how it stacked up.
Exactly! I love my Skil and just assumed it would be part of this test along with Kobalt.
@@rtgray7 the company that make Skills has it at the bottom of their list and this is how it stack up.
Flex is number 1
Kobalt is number 2
Skills is last
I got the Flex and love it. The Dewalt variable speed trigger is nice till it starts glitching after a couple years
6:41 Given that speed and power is affected by battery size, is there any reason why battery size wasn't standardised more across the models? On this test the sizes range from 3ah to 5ah, with Fein the only models using 3ah.
Great job on the testing, do you plan on doing a 12v test on multitools?
also why no Skil pwrcore 20?
None right now
Dang, I could have used this tool 30 years ago. Glad I now have one.
Your price on Makita says model XMT03Z but it looks like you tested the sub compact model
Pretty interesting shootout I own the Milwaukee m12 and metabo hpt now. I hate the metabo because of the blade change. I used to have all DeWalt stuff but it had the least oscillating of any I've ever had. It took forever to cut through something.
The M12 Fuel is an amazing multi-tool, by far my favorite I've owned. Only slightly less powerful than the M18, but with far better balance and weight.
Darn I own the newest Skil and a Kobalt that is a couple years old. Was so hoping they'd be on here. I think they'd compare well, especially the Skil. Another great video guys!
Honestly they don't compare
@@rickyperkins232 Well I was just being polite. They're actually more than comparable and are better than most, especially the Skil. I know the Skil is better than the DeWalt which ranked high. The Kobalt is on par with the DeWalt. The tool/battery for these are near half the price of the Milwaukee and DeWalt. So it was a mistake to not include these two really good, more economic tools.
Nice to see flex in there. Thanx guys!
These are great. Always love these especially when you are in the market
Dewalt has the best multi tool with the lever that makes it where you can change blades in a few seconds and the speed settings it has
Thank you for doing what you do! I wish you guys wealth and happiness!
You guys are amazing. I’ve bought so many tools from your recommendations and test. Cheers 🍻
Still going strong with the reviews guys, great job and thanks. The only thing I would recommend you consider is maybe providing a recommendation/comment for which tool would be suit the main trades. But otherwise really enjoy your reviews.
I noticed Rob you breezed over the Milwaukee blade clamp system, convenient or not it is a poor design and unscrewing a screw ( which can come out) is slow. If the flip lever were to lock the blade in place that would be a winner.
Very good review, well spoken, well explained, good tests. Definitely helped me choose my future OMT 🔥👌🏻
I think you have the wrong ryobi model number for the tool you used. I typed in that model and it's not the one+ hp model, it's the cheap brushed model. The model you have is the pblmt50b which sells for $119. It seems ryobi has a handful of multi tool models.
When you showed the speed graphs why were they not in number order?
Brain fart!
Would love to see how the M12 Fuel compares. Happy with my DeWalt but I hope the next iteration turns the battery 90* and has better vibration control.
Yeah mate. My M12 Fuel is insane for a 12v tool. It is definitely better than the original M18 non Fuel multitool.
@@gnsavage1 agreed
Why does no one review the worx professional green line :( is it that bad?
I've watched this multiple times and even decided on a Milwaukee M12 fuel based on this, personal experience with the M18 fuel and other reviews. But then I actually tried the new Makita XMT04ZB myself and as a result, returned the Milwaukee tool after using the new Makita. My personal experience didn't make sense in comparison, so I watched this video again and just saw the possible reason that none of this testing has jibed with other reviewers when compared directly against the Makita XMT04ZB shown in the video. At 16:49 a list of the price comparisons shows the old Makita XMT03Z in the price ranking, not the latest XMT04ZB. So what gives? Did you guys actually test the latest XMT04ZB in your hands or did you just add some footage in afterward and assume the specs would be close to the old XMT03Z? I can tell you they are not at all the same. The M18 fuel definitely has low vibration compared to a multitool without decoupling, and it does deserve its high ranking as a fast and powerful multitool, but there's no way the Makita ranks lower in noise or vibration when compared to Milwaukee. So I question this testing and ranking accuracy here. If you're looking for a quieter and very low vibration tool, the Makita XMT04ZB definitely out performs the Milwaukee in that respect, and for me personally, that's far more important than the slight speed advantage the Milwaukee fuel has.
Hey Rob I'm still waiting for a updated hammer drill and impact head to head whenever you guys can get to it. These Head to head videos are the reason I subscribed to this channel. I know it takes time and hard work but it's worth it and I can't wait to see it
Thank you for good testing and analysis. Very informative for armature first multitool buyer like me. Unfortunately, for me, I find this report 2 days after I placed an order to BOSCH, DIY 18V model. I will check your report next too I consider to buy. However, I am Japanese user and buying mostly from Japanese market.
I luv the Milwaukee 12V fuel but converted one of our Metabo HPT over to the triangle detail sander and it absolutely shines and eats up wood
For $79 it outperforms some all of my other detail sander including our new 12V Milwaukee which is also nice but not as powerful in sanding
Excellent and thorough review. Thanks!!!
P.s how TF does Bosch drop the ball like this? Bosch , fien and festoon were the originators and starlock is Boschs’ proprietary tech but they are almost on the bottom of the heap.