Thank you, I have a pair of Advent Mini's from 1988 that a friend gifted me and they have sat in my basement for a decade. I finally connected them to my Marantz 2252B receiver, and within a minute you could tell the woofers needed new surrounds. So your video and a re-foam kit will bring them back to life. So thank you. Not sure what I'll do with them after they are repaired but I just couldn't throw them away.
Definitely worth fixing and keeping. The Baby Advent is a top rated vintage bookshelf speaker. Checkout this video from Skylabs. ua-cam.com/video/Loa1HUdTj4E/v-deo.html
Was given Laureates and the foam was completely gone. They have the same 6.5 woofers as the baby, just 2 each. They have the foam replacement kit for all 4. Like you, I didn't replace the dust caps. Great video. Thanks.
Nice job on the Video. Very thorough. I re-foamed a pair of these before watching and it was pretty much the same process. Very easy to do.....These Baby Advent speakers sound surprisingly loud and clear for their size. A really good sonic balance of Bass and Treble. Work great with lower wattage vintage receivers like the Sherwood 7100 or 7200. Great for a small apartment, bedroom or office. Don't understand the 2 thumbs down, but I do know these usually come from people who never attempted to make a helpful video.
Thanks for the comments. The Baby Advent's sound great for their size. The owner has been using them in his small garage workshop and is very happy with the sound.
I just refoamed my Advent Legacy speakers. My speakers were almost exactly like the speakers refoamed in this video except larger. I like the way he applied the glue to the foam instead of the speaker cone the way that Simply Speakers does in their video. This video does a good job of showing how to deal with the curling that occurred when I glued the foam to the basket, which the Simply Speakers video does not. If the frame on your speakers is round and they have gaskets over the foam then I highly recommend watching this video before refoaming them.
John, Thanks for the comments. I refoamed a pair of Advent Legacy speakers about 4 years ago. Those were the ones that I was comparing the Advent Baby II's to at the end of the video. Great sounding speakers!
In preparing to restore my Baby Advent II's I watched your video a couple of times. Absolutely perfect! The hardest part for me was removing the gasket around the speaker. A little tough. I also went ahead and recapped the crossover and after finishing the project they sound amazing! Thanks again!
They sure do. Skylabs Audio picked the Baby Advent as one of their favorite vintage bookshelf speaker. Here is a link to their video. ua-cam.com/video/Loa1HUdTj4E/v-deo.htmlsi=_GDENoExMr_jI3V0
Mine were inspected by LP and tested by EW. More stuffing is not necessarily better. Sometimes it seems like the sound deadening material is just thrown in there hap hazard. It's most likely not. I've played with the deadening on speakers and they usually sound best with the exact amount of insulation installed at the factory, exactly where they put it. Sometimes it will just be laying over a bottom corner.
Great video! I just got a pair of Advent heritage speakers with dual 8s that need re foamed for $5! Hope all the drivers coils are good. Guess I could do a quick continuity test
Glad the video was useful. You can check the voice coils with a 1.5 volt battery. If they are good you should see some movement and not hear any scratching noise. Good luck with the restoration.
The Foam is COMPLEATLY gone on 3 out of 4 woofers, and i can see they are cocked. Dont really want to apply power until the VC can operate in a linear manner. I like the battery trick to check polarity also
I have a pair of Baby II’s that I got in the late 80’s. I like them a lot so I re-foamed them a while back. I had never re-foamed speakers before but I had heard people talk about it and they seemed to portray it as very doable. I bought the new foams and looked up a YT video like this one (was it this one?) and re-foamed them. The speakers sounded very nice again. Thanks for the video. 👍🏻
i have a pair of Advent 4002 from 1984/85. They do not function as the woofers foam surrounds have deteriorated. They now sit in a storage shed. They have been replaced with some fine sounding modern Monitor Audio speakers. But even those i will be replacing with a pair of Totem Rainmaker bookshelf or Arros floor standers. I have not decided which. At any rate, I do plan on "resurrecting" the old advents and putting new foam surrounds. One thing i noticed about those old advents is they do not really sound good when called to reproduce the whole audio spectrum. When i hooked up a sub woofer with them they really did shine. The mid range sound by those advents was awesome if they do not have to reproduce the lower bass frequencies.
Let me know if you want to sell those old Advents, I'd love to own a pair. I really like my 87 vintage Advent Legacy's. Your speakers should be fairly easy to re-foam and get them singing again.
I use the MI-3035 speaker adhesive from Simply Speakers. I usually order the re-foam kits from Simply Speakers and the kits come with the tube of adhesive.
Thanks for commenting. I believe that I started showing the cone cleanup about 10 minutes into the video. As I remember the glue was a bit tough to remove on that pair of speakers. I was able to remove it well enough to get the new foam surround to install properly. The owner of the Baby Advents reports that he is still using the speaker and sounding good.
Great video. I'm about to do the same thing on an identical pair of Baby IIs. I see that you don't use voice coil shims. Have you ever run into rubbing after a refoam? Should I not bother with shims?
Hi Steve. When I first started re-foaming speakers about 15 years ago, I used the "shim the voice coil" method. A few years ago I discovered the shim-less method promoted by Simply Speakers and others. I've re-foamed about 5 pairs of speakers using the shim-less method and never had the voice coil rub. Some of the speaker folks on UA-cam claim that you need to use shims but I have had 100% successful results using the shim-less method. Like I said in the video I think it's a good idea to preserve the original voice coil dust cap. Good luck with your project. Great little speakers. The owner of the Baby II's that I worked on in the video mounted them in his garage workshop. He loves the sound.
Thanks again for another good and detail video as I got a set of these at goodwill for 10 bucks . Gonna do these 1st as practice before I do the Infinity 3007s if I could ever get a day off work as my wife is sick and I have to work everyday. Could you make a video on a blown woofer on Infinity Kappa 7s. Hahahahaha. Again, good videos
Easy enough but I have a Baby Advent 1. How do I get that metal mesh grill off without damaging it? Anybody out there know or seen it done? Baby Advent no # designation all black. Thanks for any advice you may have.
not quite as simple a process as those selling the foam surrounds would lead you to believe. in fact it`s more a 3 hour process for a pair of 6.5" drivers plus dry times. a recipe for disaster with that glue`s chemical reaction warping and curling the inner/outer lips of surround during such a delicate procedure where getting voice-coil`s perfectly centered is imperative and professional `looking` results matter. use aleene`s tacky glue or some other water-based adhesive.
I just came accross your video. Just set up 2 of the same ones for my rear surrounds. I cant seem to find any specs on them. Do you know the specs or where to find them?
The Baby Advent is a sealed box (acoustic suspension) design with a 6.5" woofer. It looks like the Mini Advent is a vented box (base reflex) design with a 5.5" woofer. The Mini's should work well for your rear surrounds
I think only you can answer that question. I think they are worth the investment. They are very good sounding speakers for their size. I am using my larger Advent Legacy speakers with my newly restored Conn organ tube amplifier. They have never sounded better!
It looks like the only difference between the original Baby Advent and the Baby Advent II is in the tweeter. So the woofer re-foam job should be the same for both.
If you don't mind having a exact replacement speaker you may wont to look into these drivers from Parts Express. www.parts-express.com/grs-6pr-8-6-1-2-poly-cone-rubber-surround-woofer--292-426?gclid=Cj0KCQiA0MD_BRCTARIsADXoopaqPRHa0OrK9Y-XEWBLJlrGGXV5dTSxCJug5vDaYqeSwUcBCO3h-qIaAvRjEALw_wcB
I did just repair a set of Technics speakers where I had to custom fit the foam surround by cutting and splicing the material. If that is what you are interested in check out the video titled " Custom fitting Speaker Foam" ua-cam.com/video/x-PALpjFb_g/v-deo.html
I would guess on the first number that 220 is the code for Jensen who made the driver. I believe the 3480 is the date code, 34th week of 1980. Not sure what the other number is.
Yea I agree. I'm too lazy and don't have proper video software to do any editing. I just paste all the videos together and post to You Tube. Thanks for the comment, I'll try to be more concise in future videos.
Thanks! I just scored a pair of Baby Advent II's at the recycle dump. They need new surrounds and your video helps.
Nice score! Good luck with the surround replacement. The Baby Advents are great sounding speakers for their size.
Thank you, I have a pair of Advent Mini's from 1988 that a friend gifted me and they have sat in my basement for a decade. I finally connected them to my Marantz 2252B receiver, and within a minute you could tell the woofers needed new surrounds. So your video and a re-foam kit will bring them back to life. So thank you. Not sure what I'll do with them after they are repaired but I just couldn't throw them away.
Definitely worth fixing and keeping. The Baby Advent is a top rated vintage bookshelf speaker. Checkout this video from Skylabs. ua-cam.com/video/Loa1HUdTj4E/v-deo.html
Was given Laureates and the foam was completely gone. They have the same 6.5 woofers as the baby, just 2 each. They have the foam replacement kit for all 4. Like you, I didn't replace the dust caps. Great video. Thanks.
Congratulations on getting some great free speakers. Thanks for viewing and commenting on the video.
Thank YOU! I just finished the repair on the Baby Advent II. You made it a walk in the park.
I'm glad the video helped you. The Baby Advents are great sounding little speakers.
Thank you for the video. Just refoamed a pair of baby advent II. I followed this video step by step and had amazing results. Thank you again!
I'm glad that the video helped. Those Baby Advent II's are great little speakers!
Nice job on the Video. Very thorough. I re-foamed a pair of these before watching and it was pretty much the same process. Very easy to do.....These Baby Advent speakers sound surprisingly loud and clear for their size. A really good sonic balance of Bass and Treble. Work great with lower wattage vintage receivers like the Sherwood 7100 or 7200. Great for a small apartment, bedroom or office.
Don't understand the 2 thumbs down, but I do know these usually come from people who never attempted to make a helpful video.
Thanks for the comments. The Baby Advent's sound great for their size. The owner has been using them in his small garage workshop and is very happy with the sound.
I just refoamed my Advent Legacy speakers. My speakers were almost exactly like the speakers refoamed in this video except larger. I like the way he applied the glue to the foam instead of the speaker cone the way that Simply Speakers does in their video. This video does a good job of showing how to deal with the curling that occurred when I glued the foam to the basket, which the Simply Speakers video does not. If the frame on your speakers is round and they have gaskets over the foam then I highly recommend watching this video before refoaming them.
John, Thanks for the comments. I refoamed a pair of Advent Legacy speakers about 4 years ago. Those were the ones that I was comparing the Advent Baby II's to at the end of the video. Great sounding speakers!
In preparing to restore my Baby Advent II's I watched your video a couple of times. Absolutely perfect! The hardest part for me was removing the gasket around the speaker. A little tough. I also went ahead and recapped the crossover and after finishing the project they sound amazing! Thanks again!
Thanks for commenting. I'm glad you found the video useful. Those Baby Advents are great little speakers.
I know this is old, but I'm curious about what you did to recap them?
Great information. Thanks for taking the time to do this.
They do sound very good!
They sure do. Skylabs Audio picked the Baby Advent as one of their favorite vintage bookshelf speaker. Here is a link to their video. ua-cam.com/video/Loa1HUdTj4E/v-deo.htmlsi=_GDENoExMr_jI3V0
Same kit I used on my Advent Prodigy speakers a couple of years ago. Turned out great. Thanks for the video.
Great speakers. It's good to hear about another pair that got a life extension.
I had a pair for a week and they were sold. A lot better options for the money. I just refoamed a set of 5002 and they are great.
Agreed, you can't get a great deal of base out of a 6 inch woofer. They work well in near field listening or a small room on a bookshelf.
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Thank you!
thank you for the detailed tips and instructions.
You are welcome. Hopefully they will help if you are planning a re-foam job.
Glad you taught me how to read the year mines are from 82... about to reform and sale
Thanks for the comment. Good luck with the refoam. They Baby Advents are very nice little speakers.
This is what I'm looking for. Got four 70's advents to restore.
Good luck with the restoration. Advents aren't hard to work on.
ADVENT made nice sounding speakers!
I agree. I have a pair of 1980's vintage Advent Legacy speakers that I love.
Mine were inspected by LP and tested by EW. More stuffing is not necessarily better. Sometimes it seems like the sound deadening material is just thrown in there hap hazard. It's most likely not. I've played with the deadening on speakers and they usually sound best with the exact amount of insulation installed at the factory, exactly where they put it. Sometimes it will just be laying over a bottom corner.
I was given a pair of these and have used them as surround speakers in a 5.1 setup, but the surrounds are rotting; my refoam kit arrived today!!
Good luck with your restoration project. The Baby Advents are pretty easy to refoam.
Great video! I just got a pair of Advent heritage speakers with dual 8s that need re foamed for $5! Hope all the drivers coils are good. Guess I could do a quick continuity test
Glad the video was useful. You can check the voice coils with a 1.5 volt battery. If they are good you should see some movement and not hear any scratching noise. Good luck with the restoration.
The Foam is COMPLEATLY gone on 3 out of 4 woofers, and i can see they are cocked. Dont really want to apply power until the VC can operate in a linear manner. I like the battery trick to check polarity also
I have a pair of Baby II’s that I got in the late 80’s. I like them a lot so I re-foamed them a while back. I had never re-foamed speakers before but I had heard people talk about it and they seemed to portray it as very doable. I bought the new foams and looked up a YT video like this one (was it this one?) and re-foamed them. The speakers sounded very nice again. Thanks for the video. 👍🏻
You are welcome. I'm glad to hear that you got your Advents working again.
i have a pair of Advent 4002 from 1984/85. They do not function as the woofers foam surrounds have deteriorated. They now sit in a storage shed. They have been replaced with some fine sounding modern Monitor Audio speakers. But even those i will be replacing with a pair of Totem Rainmaker bookshelf or Arros floor standers. I have not decided which. At any rate, I do plan on "resurrecting" the old advents and putting new foam surrounds. One thing i noticed about those old advents is they do not really sound good when called to reproduce the whole audio spectrum. When i hooked up a sub woofer with them they really did shine. The mid range sound by those advents was awesome if they do not have to reproduce the lower bass frequencies.
Let me know if you want to sell those old Advents, I'd love to own a pair. I really like my 87 vintage Advent Legacy's. Your speakers should be fairly easy to re-foam and get them singing again.
If you run a low frequency threw it at same time you do that it helps centering the cone and surround..
Agreed, I've tried that method before. It works.
just got a pair of these free, 1990 on mine stamped inside the box..will do the refoam kit and report back later.
That's the best price, Free! Great little bookshelf speakers. Post a video of the refoam. Good luck,
What type of glue do you reccomend. Thanks...Good video
I use the MI-3035 speaker adhesive from Simply Speakers. I usually order the re-foam kits from Simply Speakers and the kits come with the tube of adhesive.
Thanks for sharing, i didnt see where you cleaned off the old foam and glue from the outer edge of the cone?
Thanks for commenting. I believe that I started showing the cone cleanup about 10 minutes into the video. As I remember the glue was a bit tough to remove on that pair of speakers. I was able to remove it well enough to get the new foam surround to install properly. The owner of the Baby Advents reports that he is still using the speaker and sounding good.
Hey thanks for the video! I just scored two pair of these that need a little work, will be starting on them soon. Take care!
I'd like to find a pair myself. Great little speakers. Good luck with the restoration.
Great video. I'm about to do the same thing on an identical pair of Baby IIs. I see that you don't use voice coil shims. Have you ever run into rubbing after a refoam? Should I not bother with shims?
Hi Steve. When I first started re-foaming speakers about 15 years ago, I used the "shim the voice coil" method. A few years ago I discovered the shim-less method promoted by Simply Speakers and others. I've re-foamed about 5 pairs of speakers using the shim-less method and never had the voice coil rub. Some of the speaker folks on UA-cam claim that you need to use shims but I have had 100% successful results using the shim-less method. Like I said in the video I think it's a good idea to preserve the original voice coil dust cap. Good luck with your project. Great little speakers. The owner of the Baby II's that I worked on in the video mounted them in his garage workshop. He loves the sound.
great helpful video! thanks! one question though. how did you still have a head on your beer almost a half hour into the video! :)
I just may have had multiple beers during that restoration.
Thanks again for another good and detail video as I got a set of these at goodwill for 10 bucks . Gonna do these 1st as practice before I do the Infinity 3007s if I could ever get a day off work as my wife is sick and I have to work everyday. Could you make a video on a blown woofer on Infinity Kappa 7s. Hahahahaha. Again, good videos
I'd love to find a pair of these for $10, great little speakers. I think it's a good plan to work on these before the Infinity speakers.
Easy enough but I have a Baby Advent 1. How do I get that metal mesh grill off without damaging it? Anybody out there know or seen it done? Baby Advent no # designation all black. Thanks for any advice you may have.
not quite as simple a process as those selling the foam surrounds would lead you to believe. in fact it`s more a 3 hour process for a pair of 6.5" drivers plus dry times.
a recipe for disaster with that glue`s chemical reaction warping and curling the inner/outer lips of surround during such a delicate procedure where getting voice-coil`s perfectly centered is imperative and professional `looking` results matter. use aleene`s tacky glue or some other water-based adhesive.
I just came accross your video. Just set up 2 of the same ones for my rear surrounds. I cant seem to find any specs on them. Do you know the specs or where to find them?
Here is a speaker review article that has most of the specs.
www.hifi-classic.net/review/advent-baby-440.html
@@mguess I guess I have the mini advent II is that the same as the baby?
The Baby Advent is a sealed box (acoustic suspension) design with a 6.5" woofer. It looks like the Mini Advent is a vented box (base reflex) design with a 5.5" woofer. The Mini's should work well for your rear surrounds
@@mguess Yea thats what I have been using them for
I picked up a pair of mini's for $10. at a thrift store they need new foam are they worth the $30 for new foam kit?
I think only you can answer that question. I think they are worth the investment. They are very good sounding speakers for their size. I am using my larger Advent Legacy speakers with my newly restored Conn organ tube amplifier. They have never sounded better!
Is it the same process for the Baby Advent 1s?
It looks like the only difference between the original Baby Advent and the Baby Advent II is in the tweeter. So the woofer re-foam job should be the same for both.
@@mguess Thanks ordered the kit
@@danielcadotte3675 good luck with the restoration.
Thanks for this video. Where did you get the replacement surrounds?
Did you say it was a 6.5 in speaker? Just need to know what size surround to order.
Thanks for the comments. I bought the foam surrounds from Simply Speakers.
I have a pair of these, the cones are torn and the entire speaker will need to be replaced..... any suggestions??
I have not seen a re-cone kit for these. You may want to try to pick up a pair of parted out drivers from the Baby Advent speakers on ebay.
If you don't mind having a exact replacement speaker you may wont to look into these drivers from Parts Express. www.parts-express.com/grs-6pr-8-6-1-2-poly-cone-rubber-surround-woofer--292-426?gclid=Cj0KCQiA0MD_BRCTARIsADXoopaqPRHa0OrK9Y-XEWBLJlrGGXV5dTSxCJug5vDaYqeSwUcBCO3h-qIaAvRjEALw_wcB
Where do I order the replacement
I usually order replacement speaker parts from Simply Speakers.
i cant get the driver disconnected from the plugs. im pulling and pulling. what am i just wek or something. christ, thanks for any help
They should come off with a little back and forth wiggling. Maybe a little bit of Deoxit on the connections to release any corrosion.
Do you have video on Advent 2 W speakers and how to cut and seam the foam?
No, I've only refoamed the Baby Advents and a pair of Advent Legacy's.
I did just repair a set of Technics speakers where I had to custom fit the foam surround by cutting and splicing the material. If that is what you are interested in check out the video titled " Custom fitting Speaker Foam" ua-cam.com/video/x-PALpjFb_g/v-deo.html
My heritage speakers have "2203480" stamped on them, and 25019. No idea
I would guess on the first number that 220 is the code for Jensen who made the driver. I believe the 3480 is the date code, 34th week of 1980. Not sure what the other number is.
PL anybody out there with the site to order replacement
I order replacement speaker parts from Simply Speakers.
I don't think you could have made this longer if you wanted. Very thorough but repetitive.
Yea I agree. I'm too lazy and don't have proper video software to do any editing. I just paste all the videos together and post to You Tube. Thanks for the comment, I'll try to be more concise in future videos.