why does no one ever talk about the fact that abby was maddie's first kiss?? like i remember the moms laughing when it happened but like is no one gonna mention how creepy and umcomfortable it is that a grown ass women stole a little girl's first kiss??
@@alixmalone19 In Season 4, Maddie was doing a duet with Gino in which she had to kiss him. Maddie didn't want to. She didn't want her first kiss to be because of a dance, so Abby grabbed her face and kissed her on the lips and said "There!"
I think Brooke was so unmotivated because she danced with 8 year olds as a 13 year. I wish she stayed with the seniors when she danced that one time with them because she looked sooo good, instead of do childish dances. She had so much potential. I still love her tho
@@senalikarunatilake5210 if it that's the case, just imagine how many hours she had to spend training in a week, practicing with the kids for the show for weekly dances, and then learning dances with the seniors, I'm not surprised at all that she got burned out :(. She said it herself in a youtube video, dance became like a job to her more than something she loved to do. And I think Abby made far worse by treating her like a garbage and putting her down, I'm so sad for the potential that have been wasted :(. She had a pure talent.
You wanna talk God-given talent with Brooke, Chloe said in one of her UA-cam videos that Brooke managed to learn an entire solo on the bus to the competition and I'm pretty sure she said Brooke placed in the top 5. Brooke had something so special, and had her talents been nurtured correctly, she probably could've been on Broadway by now.
Brynn, Brooke, and Chloe had such amazing talent and passion that was killed by Abby. I’m pretty sure Brooke was starting to get over it on her own because of her age but Abby really killed whatever love for dance she had left.
@@evagmiles Actually I’m pretty sure that duet was an excuse for her to finally leave because I’m pretty sure she tried to leave on season 3 or even before
I totally agree but they would go after melissa and trash talk Maddie like it’s Melissa’s fault she’s talented. I think they were jealous of Maddie but it was because of the favoritism she received
i agree, but as a child maddie probably didn’t understand that difference and the moms rarely clarified that it wasn’t her fault. i think kelly did once, saying “this isn’t about you maddie” when arguing about the favoritism.
The one thing I don’t understand is when Maddie and Mackenzie left and Abby didn’t even say anything like if that’s her favorite then why didn’t she want to say anything🤔
Ms Brooke Hyland had a GOD GIVEN GIFT she should have been dancing with girls who were her age instead of literal CHILDREN. Abby Lee Miller set that child up because of the deep rooted hate she had for her mother. I mean Abby literally projected that on the Hyland girls it was kind of pathetic
Also, let’s not forget how Brooke’s passion for dance was literally destroyed by Abby - and when she started to distance herself from the activity, she was belittled for it. I applaud Kelly for supporting her daughters through everything and anything - and it sucks that the only way she was able to get out of the show was by physically assaulting someone.
i remember in season 1, holly was upset (rightfully so) that nia was getting type cast, and kelly was like “i don’t understand, my kids get typecast all the time. brooke only does acro solos” which i think perfectly explains the understanding (or lack there of) of race relations and racism in dance moms
Yeah I was like ? . There is a huge difference between Being type casted as what type of dance you do well I.e. for example Brooke doing acro versus Being type casted because of your race
Completely agree, but I also don't think Kelly was the sharpest tool in the shed if you catch my drift lol. This is the woman who didn't know who Anne Frank was and basically asked 'who is Anne Frank and why did she write a diary?' and she was dead serious. I hope today she's a little more versed in recognizing racism, but we couldn't have expected her to understand or even be aware of the subtle racism that's found in type casting or insulting Nia's hair, back then.
@@colette5413 in the podcast kelly literally said that nia being steroptypes by race and brooke being stereotyped as an acro dancer are not at all the same thing and she knows the difference?? do you even listen to the podcast bro??
I LOVE Dr. Holly!!! she can stand her ground without cursing, yelling, or hitting below the belt. I would love to be able to do that. she wasn't afraid to stand her ground, even with no backup. that woman is a queen
Maddie was abused. She was constantly doing anxious type habits. She bit her nails, cracked her knuckles and wanted to organize when she got flustered. She had a panic attack when she forgot her solo. She was nine years old. There is a clip of Abby telling Maddie “Chloe will never be happy for you.” She constantly said everyone was jealous of Maddie. It was absolutely disgusting. She was insanely abused. In a different way than the other girls. Favoritism to this level is abuse. Period.
kaitie648 I completely agree. She received the same emotional abuse level as the other girls but it’s often overlooked because people think abuse looks one way when it doesn’t. Abby isolated her and built a wall from the other girls it was so sad.
Totally agree. The way Maddie was treated was completely different from Nia and Pagie which she did get the other girls. How do you put so much pressure on a nine-year-old girl? Maddie couldn’t handle all that she just craked that emotional breakdown you saw I believe that was from everything Abby said to her. I believe when Maddie forgot her solo because she was thinking of what Abby said to her. About what she thought Chloe said. I think she said some other stuff that just wasn’t showing on camera.Abby needs to realize these girls can crack under pressure but she wants them to be this amazing grown-up dancers keyword grown-up when they are 8 some of my believe were 6
Abby also constantly took away her opportunities when Maddie was just trying to either be a good friend or not be arrogant. When Maddie refused to do a solo against that boy from Candy Apples, Abby took away her solos for a while - Maddie was just trying to give Chloe a chance. When Maddie sat in the parking lot with everyone else because Brooke and Paige weren't allowed in the studio, Abby made it seem like it was Maddie's fault for not coming inside, when she was just doing what her mom told her and sticking up for her friends. Abby makes her CRY and APOLOGIZE for these things. She was NINE YEARS OLD and emotionally manipulated. All of these girls had it horrible but people make it seem like Maddie had this great experience when in reality it caused her so many problems.
and that one episode where abby made all the dance moms and dancers vote on which one was better (chloe and maddie) and you could see that it was a uncomfortable situation for both of the two and that maddie felt bad. it’s so aggravating how they just always singled maddie out and compared her to HER OWN FRIENDS. then in that one dance mom episode where that one women was interviewing maddie and kenzie and kept bringing up on how maddie gets favorited by others and blah blah blah and you could see how uncomfortable and how much she wanted to get that question over with in her face but like fr i feel the same way that she was abused emotionally just differently than what the other girls were receiving.
Abby’s low treatment of the other girls showed Maddie what would happen if she made a mistake, while isolating her from girls who could’ve been her best friends and idk if an adult could cope with that kind of pressure alone let alone a 9 year old girl
Some things: -Anyone wanna mention how some of the ALDC production people have been arrested for possession of pedophilic content on their computers? -Why is it not a requirement in reality tv with children to have child therapists? -Producers were constantly telling everyone what to do and say, especially in the way later seasons (to my understanding). -The moms had to stay at the dance studio because of child labor laws. -Dance moms was originally supposed to be a two or three episode documentary. It really should have stayed that way. -Also, because of this show, quite a few of the girls now have stalkers. Like actual, scary, stalkers. All because of this show.
I remember one comment in a different video that Nia said that the producers would touch some of them in inappropriate places and for the girls not to tell their mothers the producers would give them gifts like iPads
They actually had a child therapist on the spinoff show, Abby Lees Ultimate Dance Competition (which is where they found Kalani and Jojo). All the kids that were under ten had to undergo a psych evaluation to see if they could handle the stress of it. However, anyone above ten didn't have to and none of the girls on Dance Moms ever went through that. I think a lot of the neglect towards the girls happened because when Season 1 came out, reality TV wasn't included in child labor laws.
It's sickening how much Abby hated Chloe lol. Notice how Chloe is the only one who wasn't in the "Freaks like Me" music video with Todrick Hall. That's because Abby literally wouldn’t let her be in it. Abby said that if Todrick included Chloe in the video, none of the other girls could be in it, which is actually disgusting. She wouldn't let Chloe be in Mackenzie's "Girl Party" music video either. Also, Abby literally admitted on the Rosie O'Donnell show that she purposely treated Chloe like garbage because she knew Chloe couldn't quit the show no matter what she said to her because of her contract.
This is all because chole was better than maddie that literally it. Maddie was the favourite and was given the space to shin and she was able to outshine most of the girls either because the other weren't as good or didnt really care. Chole however was a diamond in the rough fantastic dancer abby and maddie knew. And abby wanted maddie to shine so she kept telling chole she was shit
It also had to be with her mother, Christi was probably one of if not the most iconic mom on dance moms but Abby hated her family and hated Christi for something to do with contracts. but Abby knew 100% that Chloe was better than Maddie, and what pissed her off the most was going to sleep at night KNOWING that fact. I bet she would stay up and cry at night for the fact that Chloe was better. said what I said.
The Kid Maddie was a better all-rounder than Chloe and that’s it. Chloe and her had pretty equal technique early-on, but Maddie alway surpassed her in actual transitions, musicality, fluidity, movement-quality, presence, versatility, etc. She had things naturally that Chloe just didn’t ... She wasn’t a diamond on the rough, despite being good for her age. Literally all the Seniors were questioned before DM and asked who the best mini was, and they all said Maddie, and/as she had even COMPETED with them previously ...
-ˏˋMilitiaˎˊ- Chloe wasn’t the better dancer, though ... There’s a reason Brooke and Maddie had won the most awards, technical/musical plaques and titles before and during DM ... She just wasn’t fluid, didn’t excel at as many styles, didn’t understand the transitions as well as the rises and falls of the music naturally, etc.
I feel like people forget that Kendall, Maddie, and Paige all had anxiety issues over their dance instructor. I think that's why Paige forgot her solos and Kendall crying a lot.
@@irhrjjrjrkekwoowoe right???? kendall had multiple anxiety attacks ON CAMERA throughout the years and everyone just calls her a crybaby like excuse me??????
And Chloe had major confidence issues Abby legit called Chloe the most cocky kid ever which makes no sense because Chloe is one of the most humble kids I have ever seen but you know...
@@nathalie3601 kids don't generally have anxiety unless they are put into extremely stressful situations. The producers can edit a situation to make someone look a certain way but in reality they are not that person. Plus Kendall seems to be a lot more confident now and I am living for it.
wasnt even any type of mom stan because they let their kids stay there while being yelled and manipulated by an angry uncaring dance teacher lol you can say they couldnt leave cause they have a contract but the moms couldve done something literally most of these girls now have ptsd cause of this
i feel like a lot of people forget how manipulative and gross abby was towards maddie as well. all the pressure she put on her?? she was eight years old and had panic attacks because she did one wrong step in her routine, and all she could think about was how angry abby would be at her. seriously, she was eight and had everyone using HER as a means to yell at her friends, because she was on the top of the pyramid all the time, and a lot of the fights was around maddie getting solos instead of the others. like i cant imagine that did not leave a big mark on her. abby was not the same kind of bully to maddie as she was to the others, but the way she singled out maddie all the time certainly did something to damage her mentally, and it damaged her relationships with the other girls.
thank you!! Everyone thinks it was all cupcakes and rainbows, but as the "favorite" kid, they don't understand how pressuring it is and how much anxiety it brought me.
Don’t forget the time nia had to play a literal GANG MEMBER in a group dance, brynn, who was naturally small and petite, had to play an anorexic girl, and camryn, the only other somewhat permanent member who was a POC, had to play a PROSTITUTE. This was all in the same dance. It’s insane what abby did to these girls
Abby even admitted the producers wouldn't let her kick Chloe off the show. So she knew Chloe also couldn't break her contract so she realized she could say or do anything to her. She literally admitted it :/. Also she made fun of Chloes medical condition and thats what made them leave. Because after that the producers couldn't even force them to stay within their contract.
Christi didn’t want to sign the new aldc contract which said that they can’t gain more than 10 lbs and Christi being an icon didn’t sign it. so Chloe didn’t compete outside of the show and she wasn’t allowed to wear any aldc clothing except for her team jacket. Abby absolutely despised Chloe and Christi because of that and she tried to keep getting her off the team. The only reason they were able to leave is because around season 2 all the moms protested a higher pay and Christi asked for a shorter contract.
Something that didn't sit right with me (even as a child) was that everyone was trying to villianize Holly when she couldn't be at EVERY competition and rehearsal. I mean why are a bunch of stay at home moms coming after a principal with a school to run (or was she a nurse? She did something in school, been years since I watched the show) (btw nothing wrong with being a stay at home mom, it just wasn't right for them to try and make Holly seem evil for having a job)
@@samfielder8789 Yes! Who was watching Clara every time Christi was at the studio? When Kira dared to prioritize her baby over filming, the moms completely turned on her.
@@ailema.4548 didn’t Christi take Clara with her to the studio? But she wasn’t filmed most of the time because someone (I don’t know who) didn’t want someone “cuter than Mackenzie” or some BS on the show.
@@nova4476 when the show first started there were no child labour laws for reality tv, i think they were a couple of seasons in before the laws were put into effect
Can we just talk about how creepy Abby was towards Maddie... Like that one time Abby cried like a baby because Maddie, a child, didn’t listen to her dance teacher and obeyed her mother. The codependence she had on Maddie was seriously creepy as hell. No wonder it seemed like Maddie was suffering from anxiety issues. Abby put her at this crazy standard that she was bound to crack under.
I was FURIOUS and yelling at the TV when Abby put Dr. Holly down for putting her Ph D graduation above a dance competition. A Ph D graduation is a HUGE DEAL! There is a hooding ceremony, it's a once in a lifetime experience! Nia should have been able to be there with her mother that day. Dr. Holly is a class act, and Nia definitely takes after her!
I didn't have an issue with Melissa's parenting of Maddie, but her parenting of Mackenzie is questionable. She didn't seem to stick up for Mackenzie in ways she would stick up about Maddie to Abby, and she definitely fed into Mackenzie being compared to Maddie. I feel like she invalidated whenever her kids were upset because she didn't want her kids crying on TV.
Honestly her parenting of Mackenzie made me question her parenting of Maddie. Maddie was ultimately a miniature adult, she seemed to miss out on a lot of her childhood (I honestly wondered if she knew how to play and have fun outside of dance), and it just seemed like Melissa was preparing Maddie to be her source of income.
Sharna Grayson yeah but the show did put a lot of strain on their relationship in real life because people were always comparing Mackenzie to Maddie. They have opened up about it, and Mackenzie said there was even a time that she didn’t really like Maddie because of it, but I was so happy to see that they were able to get past it. And people are now seeing Mackenzie as her own person and not just Maddie’s little sister.
Y’all remember when nia BEAT kahlani in a competition to see who’s going to nationals.....AND ABBY SAID NEVER MIND AND STILL GAVE IT TO KAHLANI .....I gave up at that moment 🤦🏽♀️
I was just thinking about this, it made no sense at all, they knew that it was being judged by teens and it wasnt a problem in the beginning, yet when Nia won it became an issue. And what annoyed me even more was that Kira was defending that foolishness
nia did end up with the dance. she earned it and deserved. kira was fine with the deal till nia won. and I'll add that nia was fabulous in bye felicia!!! she was awesome!!
Jojos mother was the reason for her success, every time Abby tore her down she reminded her it wasn’t worth the years and to be the bigger person. Mojo always took criticism with grace and humility
People forget that Asia was on this show, Asia is the best thing that has ever happened to this team! She definitely gave Mackenzie a run for her money and even when Mackenzie did Asia’s solo, it just wasn’t it let’s be honest. I used to think that jazz solos were so lame because I never saw a good jazz performance from the show, then I saw Asia and she SHOOK THE TABLE! Then jazz solos somehow became the best thing I’ve ever seen
If Asia stayed on the show she would have BODIED every single dancer on the team. Her technique started getting better quickly and NO ONE not even Jojo had her stage presence
CAN WE TAKE A MOMENT TO REMEMBER THAT ABBY KEPT PUSHING THAT LAQUEEFA SOLO ON NIA BECAUSE SHE CLAIMED THAT SHE NEEDED TO BE PREPARED FOR "ETHNIC" CASTINGS.
SHE JUST NEEDED A BLACK GIRL ON THE TEAM SO SHE LOOKED LESS RACIST THAN SHE ACTUALLY WHICH IS JUST EVIL!!!! SHE WAS SO RUDE TO HER AND CAMRYN JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR SKIN TONE! THAT IS DISGUSTING
Abby was so jealous of Holly, she mentioned multiple times how Holly believed herself "better because she was a doctor". And I was like...What? Holly never put herself over the moms🤦🏻♀️
I looooved Asia she was INCREDIBLE. I remember her getting her own spin off but it didn’t last long smh I wonder how she doing now. I looooved kehlani as well def my two favs. This show was def my fav reality show like EVER 😩.
Same here I loved her attitude ❤️loved her when she was on AUDC aswell she was like 6 years old competing against 14 year olds and she held her own so well!
i remember when kelley talked about how she thinks it’s unreasonable that holly was upset about the laqueefa dance because brooke was always “typecasted” as an acrobat. like that ! is ! not ! the ! same ! thing ! kelley !
The racism.. omg.. the racism was so disgusting Abby would be incredibly racist to Nia with all the typecast solos and the whole issue with her hair where Abby said she couldn’t have braids .. she also told Camryn it was weird that the bottoms of her feet were lighter than the top.. and idk if anybody talks about this but Jade (the asian girl who was there for a second) got this super typecast like “mysterious sensual geisha type” solo called far east with like Panda Express music in the background and it just .. ugh it was very uncomfortable to watch Abby Lee Miller is a racist I said what I said
marble soda i think he only thing with the typecasting is that they felt it would be “inappropriate” for any other girl to do it. For example the Rosa parks number Jill wanted kendall to play rosa parks instead of Nia which would have looked off. But everything else you said was 100% true and sad honestlyj
Lou Mutlu um yes but the whole point about typecasting in this situation is that THESE ARE THE ONLY TYPE OF ROLES THAT SHE’D GIVE NIA or other rare people of color on the team. THAT is the problem. She ain’t even give one of the other girls a dance about some Italian or Russian or white American figure but Nia always had to represent something in black history or stereotype in order to dance. She could never give her straight coreo
Curls On Mai she gave Maddie a solo about leaving Berlin. It’s show biz and a white woman isn’t going to play Rosa parks. Some things she said are crass and ignorant but racist is not the word. She treated Nia the same as the others. Maddie is the only one she had a soft spot for.
Riley The Poo & Me Too! racist is definitely the word . saying she can’t have braids ? saying she didn’t want a little tootsie on stage ? and the whole point like they said are those are the only solos nia got were because of her color and they needed someone black. maddie doing one berlin solo out of the hundreds she had wasn’t racist bc that wasn’t the only solos she was getting.
Abby said in season 8 ‘I never wanted Chloe to win, but she did’ so it’s hard for me to hate Christi bc she was 100% right. Abby had something seriously against Chloe and non of the other moms ever stuck up for her
Something I noticed is that there were countless times that Abby called some of the girls gorgeous and beautiful. Paige, Kendall, Maddie, Kalani, Brynn, Kenzie, Chloe, and Brooke received compliments about their looks countless times from Abby (usually before she would put them down for lack of dance skills) but she never complimented Nia’s looks. There were times when she would talk about Nia’s hair and body shape negatively. She never once said stuff like that to the other girls. The other girls were always told how pretty they were and that’s why they had potential to dance but Abby never spoke about Nia’s looks that way. Nia is obviously a gorgeous young girl but I think it’s clear that Abby had a specific image of what beautiful was (ahem racism). Nia craved Abby’s attention and validation because she was the only girl she never or almost ever validated in any way. Nia saw the other girls getting different types of strange complements (still doesn’t make what Abby did to the other girls okay) and knew that she never got those compliments and we could see how badly she wanted them. Abby was emotionally abusive and manipulative towards all of the girls but probably more severely towards Nia and it’s so obvious why.
I feel like Abby was intimidated by Holly. She took every shot at her she could, and gave her a hard time for not "being there" for Nia when she had a full time job. Holly has a doctorate, a beautiful family, and tons of class. Abby hates that. Nia is SUCH a beautiful and talented girl, anyone can see that. There's a reason she was on a soap opera for so long, she had some of the best acting on her team. And her voice???? She's a great singer. Thank god Holly's such a great mom, Nia's still thriving today.
Remember when Abby kissed Maddie?!?!?! I always found that so disturbing and everyone forgets that scene. Since people always dismiss how weird Abby was towards Maddie.
maddie gave me brooke vibes in season 5 and 6, she was tired of competing and tired of the show yet she kept winning. the irony of that is brooke used to be the favorite before maddie, so my suspicion is that abby 100% burnt those girls out. she overworked her favorite dancers and killed their passion. she hurt all their passions, but maddie & brooke were different if that makes sense.
Low key I think nia is the most beautiful there all beautiful I just think bias got that Extra zaz for stardom it’s lowkey tho cuz I seen a million different versions of Maddie Kendall and Chloe every other white girl .
Chloe and Maddie are two perfect examples of what happens when you nurture a child’s talent and instill confidence in them, vs when you don’t. Chloe was just as talented as Maddie. The only difference was that Maddie was constantly praised and, as a result, lived up to her full potential. Chloe, on the other hand, was constantly picked apart and torn down so she always fell short of being great. The tongue has the power of life and death. Someone cannot flourish if you don’t speak LIFE over them.
faith all along I mean ... did they really “brainwash” people into loving Maddie when they literally spoonfed her “bratty” lines to make her a target of dislike and hatred of people watching, and when they didn’t even show her getting a scholarship like Chloe and turned the editing on her to try and portray her as “upset” over “not getting one” when she did and it was actually just her anxiety?? Nah. She wasn’t the one well-portrayed or favored by the editors/producers, just by Abby ...
Some of the worst typecasting I've ever seen in dance moms was in the 7th season in the "is there still hope" routine. Abby had nia and carmen (both black girls) play a gangster and a prostitute while the other girls got much more tame roles
i personally think kalani should’ve stuck with ballet because she trained for over 8 years and had an immense natural talent that was kind of wasted in the competitive dance world.
True and competition is such a short period of your life as a dancer. I think ballet would've served her much more in the long run. But its definately not too late 👌👌
@@katherinediane3988 eh she definitely had some bratty moments however she was properly bullied by fully grown women for 2 whole seasons and was i believe 11 or 12 years old so i think we can forgive her lmao
The biggest lost talent on this show was Brynn. How do you take one of the country's BEST junior dancers, kill her passion, and make her quit dance forever? Ridiculously tragic, considering I watched Brynn even before Dance Moms, and she was a shining light of hope and brilliance in dance.
this show was unbelievably toxic. and the fact that people were saying abby was better behind the scenes is a lie. if she was so much better, these girls would’ve had their dance passion still and not have trauma and anxiety disorders from the treatment of abby.
Tbh in my opinion I thought both Ashlee and Jill were at fault. Ashlee started taking a boy all kids. She said that Kendall is old news and that kalani isn’t as good as she used to be. She even said that Abby could pick any of your kids and have said that you’re the next Maddie but she picked Brynn. But Jill said bad things about Brynn while Brynn was there. I feel like if in the beginning Ashlee wasn’t like that it would’ve all been fine.
Update: I wish all of the girls came out unscathed, but not all of them did. Chloe just came forward on Instagram saying that she has an eating disorder, and it’s been mentioned by various sources that Paige, Mackenzie, and Kendall have all needed therapy for anxiety. So sad...these girls deserved so much better.
Paige had a full on anxiety attack about Abby on the show and she said she hated her and she was only there for her friends. Abby was so cruel to that kid
I disagree about Kelly having an affect on Brooke on her spark with dancing. Brooke said on her own youtube channel that even before the show she was already starting to lose her spark for dancing as she wanted to hang out with her friends more and start cheerleading or something new. She did overall say it was Abby that ruined her passion, not her mom
Paige got absolutely destroyed for no good reason, she was always on the bottom but never given any opportunities to prove herself although she always did well when she got a trio or a duo. You could literally see her go from a giggly and happy young girl into an anxiety ridden preteen who just wanted her teachers approval. Paige Hyland deserved better. (All the girls did but I feel like y’all sleep on paige’s trauma the most) Also for anyone coming for her technique or ability. It was an AFTER SCHOOL HOBBY for her + most of the other girls. Like (except for Maddie and Mackenzie) their lives did not resolve around winning dance competitions! Imagine thousands of people ripping into you even years after you stopped regarding how you perform in netball, basketball, soccer, dance etc!!
Paige would literally have panic attacks every show because of the constant vindictive words and actions of Abby...imagine if she would have given her the same amount of time as she gave Maddie?? the girl could be on Broadway with those long ass legs
My FAVORITE episode of any season of dance moms is the episode where they all get solos and PAIGE WINS. Nothing can ever top that! It went so far downhill after that, but watching her do her little solo and then win, and give the speech about how Abby doesn’t give her a lot of opportunities but she proved her wrong.. priceless.
I feel like paige could have been WAY better if abby gave her good choreo and if abby put her past history aside and taught without projecting her hate for Kelly on paige
I felt so bad for Paige. That poor little girl was way too sweet and sensitive for the treatment that she received. All the girls were sweet, but every child responds differently to certain teaching methods. Paige was way too vulnerable for Abby’s methods.
ok but imagine if brooke had had a good, nurturing dance teacher who really just worked with her and was kind and caring... imagine the power brooke would still have.
If I remember correctly, Paige was at the top of the pyramid ONCE. ONCE. Maddie was at the top of the pyramid (hum hum) a grand total of FIFTY SIX times. And Maddie was NOT at the top of the pyramid (when she was still on the show) FIFTY FOUR TIMES. ALL the other girls combined were less at the top of the pyramid than ONLY Maddie was. That is actually insane.
Cause the order was decided by producers, and half the time Maddie was at the top (or certain other girls weren’t), was to instigate drama between the moms 💀
The happiest I ever was watching this show was when Dr. Holly and Nia called out Abby for not putting Nia on the top of the pyramid when she was the lead, and the group won. Something about Nia sticking for herself when she was clearly ROBBED of a moment that was supposed to be for HER... it was well due at that point
also kendall always gets labeled as a spoiled brat. and maybe she is to some extent but people should give her the benefit of the doubt. she definitely had severe anxiety and i don’t think she was a crybaby at all. i think she would cry in frustration a lot because she knew she was on the verge of panic attacks. she’s just as traumatized as the rest of those girls.
honestly people call those poor girls brats bc they were having panic attacks at nine years old. people ignore how toxic that environment was for children
Kendall for me wasn’t that bad but I remember some scenes where she was rude to some of the girls. Can’t remember if it was camryn, brynn, Jojo or nia. But her mom was kinda mean so I can’t blame her
Nah Kendall is a brat😂 I agree with the anxiety, but theres not one child on that team who hasn't told a story about how Kendall was mean to them. Look at how Jill act, it's no secret she raised brats. Theres always a brat in the bunch and Kendall just so happen to be the one in this group.
Why is no one talking about Kendall. That girl had clear anxiety and everyone called her a brat for it! When Abby made her upset, Jill would just make it worse.
abby put all her eggs in maddie’s basket and that’s why she couldn’t stand that brooke and chloe were on her level, and at times even better. she couldn’t fathom that she judged wrong. she def hated kelly and christi the most, and she wanted to use their daughters losses against them.
The real truth, Dance Moms was secretly about Nia persevering through generational systematic oppression. The way that girl would get beat down by Abby weekly and then STILL find the strength to show up with her head held high, An icon.
Brooke was actually like maddie when she was younger she won all the awards for Abby but by 15 she was burnt out and pyramid was three hours long that’s why Brooke looked miserable she said , and it’s true because look by time maddie hit 15 she was burnt out too and done with Abby . And Brooke crushed her growth plate or something from doing acro all them years which is why she’s so short so she dedicated her life to dance but again it was a negative environment and who would be happy or motivated when someone is tearing you down.
I am SO glad you talked about how racist Abby is. She is a terrible, awful child abuser who the producers couldn’t even make look good through editing.
the saddest part about the chloe and maddie “rivalry” was the fact that they were literally best friends, there were so many clips in seasons 1 and 2 of them being so happy for each other no matter what, holding hands while walking before one goes on stage, etc. it’s so upsetting to me that abby (and their parents tbh) has to ruin the adorable friendship they had, and now they aren’t even “allowed” to be friends as adults per their parents. it’s heartbreaking
omg yes there is a video on UA-cam of them dancing to a video star thing too a Katy Perry song and it’s so cute and it looked like they had a genuine friendship :(
their friends now, like the og girls and moms are now close to eachothe. which makes me so happy and like ik the moms (except for christi) have a podcast together.
Jojo doesn’t get enough credit for her professionalism and maturity. Girl had every right to never speak to Abby again with how horrible she was treated, but instead she hustled, made millions, and returned to the show to give advice. She is such a great role model and I’m so glad she has blown up the way she has
And people often disrespect her saying that she’s childish but she’s a good role model for the millions of kids who like her. Much better than a lot of people.
Honestly. I personally might not enjoy her content, but I really admire that Jojo is such a positive role model for little girls. A lot of kids feel such a pressure to grow up so fast, it’s nice someone is telling them it’s okay to be silly, be loud and have fun. I can really see Jojo as a children’s show host once she’s older.
Although I think it’s great that JoJo is such a great role model, her actions are not normal for a girl her age. I feel like JoJo might like acting younger than she actually is because she never got to act like a child because she had to grow up so fast bc of the competition world. I just hope she’s okay and gets the help she needs if that’s actually why she acts the way she does
Abby was an emotional abuser and when she said “my mother would beat my ass” or “if my mom saw this” or “if my mom heard you crying” like while yelling at children who aren’t hers. She has to have some sort of trauma to project her rage at children that way with no remorse. And projecting her own insecurities on all the mothers.
That scene where she’s breaking down in tears in front of Maddie, screaming at her and claiming betrayal, all cause Maddie listened to her mother makes me physically ill, tbh
I don’t think Nia had a lot of microaggressions, I genuinly think making a black girl take all the animal rules and giving her no other options, making her feel unimportant, and couldn’t even let her have the hair she wanted is much worse then microaggressions. Microaggresions are considered accidental based subconciously and I don’t think Abby did this on accident.
One time she got a lead in a group dance to play the Bully. But Holly said how wrong it was coz she's the black girl so Abby gave it to someone else and completely gaslighted Holly
Not really nia feet were extremely off and she was jot even close to the best dancer so she did not get solos for a reason but giving her these idiotic and racist roles was extremely annoying
when abby made the "I dont want any little tooties" that was honestly it for me. Nia and Chloe were always my favs as a child watching the show and it was honestly painfull to watch how they were treated. gross! Love your videos keep it up pls, you are amazing and I love your voice sm
Including the “favorites”. wayyyy too much pressure was put onto their shoulders. Maddie was having panic attacks when she was NINE. no kid should be afraid of their AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITY
I'd say Chloe was the most abused Abby had some kind of issues surrounding Chloe to the point where I don't even know if it was just Christi who Abby was mad at
I always feel like everyone thinks that Maddie was treated perfectly. Of course, she wasn't treated like trash, but the amonut of pressure Abby and Melissa put on her was INSANE. Plus we cannot forget that Abby kept saying that her friends don't care about her and that she should care only about winning and skip school in order to dance
Let's remember that Abby admitted in the latest season that she purposely sabotaged Chloe. She said "I never wanted Chloe to win but she won all the time". Lifetime also edited out tons of her wins to paint her as the underdog
46:50 Doctor Holly was the best mom on the show, every single time that Holly was arguing with Abby, Holly was ALWAYS right it was crazy. Abby just didn’t want to see Nia dance so every chance she got, she would take the dance away from poor Nia. Holly was the most mature person on that show, every time she would say something to somebody, she makes them look like an IDIOT. Abby knew Holly was smarter than her and was just jealous
Rightt! Holly had to have been the most level-headed mom on the show. Every other mom who had an argument with Abby I would think, "Okay they doing a bit too much". Never with Holly though.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the fact Abby LITERALLY said during pyramids when Kalani and Nia did the traditional African dance that Kalani looked more African then Nia did during the Dance 🤨🤨🤨
JoJo is still nice to Abby after she treated her like garbage and went to go visit her in the hospital when she was battling cancer. If that doesnt show what a class act JoJo is, I don’t know what is. I definitely don’t blame the majority of the girls who don’t talk to Abby. They experienced so much mistreatment from her that had a lasting effect on their mental health and passion for dance.
Ana Azevedo In a later season the moms were discussing race and Jill literally said “I thought racism wasn’t allowed anymore” I couldn’t believe those words came out of her mouth, but Holly read her as she should.
The disrespect Abby showed towards Holly, Nia, and an entire race whenever she spoke about Nia's hair shouldn't be allowed on television or in life in general. Period.
AGREED. The thing she said about Camryns feet made me sick. She also indirectly called nia fat and did nothing but stereotype her. NOTHING about this show is acceptable. I grew to love the cast and watching them grow up and see them improve. That would have been fine. They are traumatizing these kids for life.
ALSO Abby is literally projecting YEARS of frustration on Paige and Brooke. they knew each other since they were kids. I think they even said something about kelly stealing Abby’s boyfriend like 20+ years ago
Some people think that Abby grew more mad towards Kelly not only because she quit but because the guy she liked dated Kelly idk if this is right but I read it somewhere
Abby admitted in season 8 i think that chloe was better dancer, She even admitted that sabotaged her routine and still she won, and abby always ruined the girls confidence except maddie's. And I think the show really ruined them, to the most of them, Paige, Brooke, Nia, Brynn, Chloe...none of them danced again
Brooke posted a tiktok of her flipping off the ALDC as she drove by it with the lyrics "I sold my soul the devil for designer..." playing in the background with the caption "no comment." TEA
we all know why nia got paid dust. let's remember how camryn was one of the BEST dancers and /performers/ that company had ever seen and she got jack shit credit for it. that winning number she did that never got aired? those irreplaceables numbers? camryn ATE, spat out, MURDERED those numbers
Aria Glass Camryn was the best in Survivor PERIOD. She is literally was one of the best and they treated her like a LOSER like??? Give her good choreography and she could honestly compete with Kalani
Aria Glass FACTS. SHE’S STILL ONE OF THE MOST UNDERRATED GIRLS TO STEP FOOT ON THAT SHOW. She was the definition of an all-rounder. She had more of a grounded presence that no other girl possessed ... She even started at 9, which is way later than all the others, and was still to THAT level!! She was so damn good at portraying characters and she never missed a beat in the music. She could glide through the melody while still keeping pace. Kira always largely ignored or shaded her cause she knew how genuinely good she was and how much of a threat she was to her daughter, despite not being trained at the highest-level studio in the country. Her and Kalani outdanced and outshined every other girl in The Last Dance by a mile. Breaking Free is still one of my favorite solos ever done on the show, and Endangered Species should’ve beaten Getting Away With Murder. I said what I said.
Giiiirrllll CAMRYN NEEDS HER OWN VIDEO! The way Camryn came through and woke the girls up, had them SHOOKETH, especially that damn Kira. Kira was extremely confident in Kalanis talent knowing she was the best dancer that ever stepped foot onto that team( aside from Sophia Lucia) , but when Camryn Bridges came through with this urban swag snatching ALL wigs and edges Kira started hating. Camryn was stepping on necks and if she would have got one more season in , our good sis would be booked and busy!
That was the name she had her jacket, and when they asked why she called herself that, I believe she said her mom gave her that nickname. I think it was supposed to be a joke, like “oh crazy stage mom”, but it didn’t come from them.
I watched Dance Moms OBSESSIVELY for years. And after season 7, I did a lot of research into the production of the show bc of its cultural impact. I can say without a doubt that this show has some of the most edited and manufactured plot lines I’ve ever seen from a reality tv show. It’s honestly astonishing and impressive. Fake competitions, producers picking choreography AND music, audio picked from separate episodes/encounters and placed into fights to change the tone, the list goes on.
cutiepie61000 Holly is hands down my favorite mom. She’s a class act and was a warrior for those kids. She also was powerful with her words and non insulting! Holly FTW!
This show was so toxic for the ALL the girls.
Sarah Parker the professional dance industry period
Tanaja Sanford Literallyyyyy tho
and 10 year old us ate this show up
A lot of them ended up with anxiety disorders... and that's sad as hell
z So sad because they’re all so beautiful and GROWN WOMEN destroyed their confidence
wow over an hour.. queen had a lot to say but who's mad? nobody
grace correchet your actually wrong. Abby is triggered
period
@Brian Nguyen Abby is triggered by this long video.
Görel Barkbark good thing you noticed the joke 😊
grace correchet and i was captivated the wholeeee time
why does no one ever talk about the fact that abby was maddie's first kiss?? like i remember the moms laughing when it happened but like is no one gonna mention how creepy and umcomfortable it is that a grown ass women stole a little girl's first kiss??
WHAT????
@@alixmalone19 In Season 4, Maddie was doing a duet with Gino in which she had to kiss him. Maddie didn't want to. She didn't want her first kiss to be because of a dance, so Abby grabbed her face and kissed her on the lips and said "There!"
@@kaitie648 That is beyond screwed up. Imagine if a male teacher pulled something like that. Would be a totally different reaction.
@@kaitie648 That's really creepy...
kaitie648 What the helllllll
I think Brooke was so unmotivated because she danced with 8 year olds as a 13 year. I wish she stayed with the seniors when she danced that one time with them because she looked sooo good, instead of do childish dances. She had so much potential. I still love her tho
That was only for the show. She danced with her age group when they were not being filmed
Yess omgg
@@senalikarunatilake5210 if it that's the case, just imagine how many hours she had to spend training in a week, practicing with the kids for the show for weekly dances, and then learning dances with the seniors, I'm not surprised at all that she got burned out :(. She said it herself in a youtube video, dance became like a job to her more than something she loved to do. And I think Abby made far worse by treating her like a garbage and putting her down, I'm so sad for the potential that have been wasted :(. She had a pure talent.
It was all for the shows which she mentioned they place a characteristic on her such as “grumpy teen” she said she loved dance
I hated the way they made her look in the show she always looked depressed and like she didn’t wanna be there
if holly would have treated abby like the other moms she would have been treated like black patsy and gotten the “ghetto edit"
PERIODT
FACTS.
RIGHTT
exactly.
ua-cam.com/video/U4aKgX1eUAo/v-deo.html
EXACTLY
Nia and her mom were the only unproblematic pair. Holly was smart, and hustled underneath Abby.
Coffee Bean honestly, that’s why Nia was my favorite although she wasn’t the “best dancer”
queen holly 👸
I was cheering for Nia!
Queen Dr. Holly 👸🏽
Jade Boo but she was always improving and we gotta respect that as well
You wanna talk God-given talent with Brooke, Chloe said in one of her UA-cam videos that Brooke managed to learn an entire solo on the bus to the competition and I'm pretty sure she said Brooke placed in the top 5. Brooke had something so special, and had her talents been nurtured correctly, she probably could've been on Broadway by now.
Brooke would be involved in Cirque. She was a fabulous acrobat that was put on this earth to dance.
@@kaitie648 I think that was the goal she was working towards till Abby killed all her passion
Brynn, Brooke, and Chloe had such amazing talent and passion that was killed by Abby. I’m pretty sure Brooke was starting to get over it on her own because of her age but Abby really killed whatever love for dance she had left.
she could've gone so far if it wasn't for 2 sapphires aka the dance that broke dance moms
@@evagmiles Actually I’m pretty sure that duet was an excuse for her to finally leave because I’m pretty sure she tried to leave on season 3 or even before
I think the moms weren't jealous of Maddie. They were jealous of how she was treated and the favouritism.
Big difference
yes
I totally agree but they would go after melissa and trash talk Maddie like it’s Melissa’s fault she’s talented. I think they were jealous of Maddie but it was because of the favoritism she received
@@maeveherlihy5863 I don’t think they were jealous of Maddie and it was Melissa’s fault. They barley came after her.
i agree, but as a child maddie probably didn’t understand that difference and the moms rarely clarified that it wasn’t her fault. i think kelly did once, saying “this isn’t about you maddie” when arguing about the favoritism.
The one thing I don’t understand is when Maddie and Mackenzie left and Abby didn’t even say anything like if that’s her favorite then why didn’t she want to say anything🤔
Ms Brooke Hyland had a GOD GIVEN GIFT she should have been dancing with girls who were her age instead of literal CHILDREN. Abby Lee Miller set that child up because of the deep rooted hate she had for her mother. I mean Abby literally projected that on the Hyland girls it was kind of pathetic
period. it was pathetic how a 13-14 year old girl had to dance in a group with mackenzie who was a literal 6 year old
For sure I remember that one episode when she danced with the senior troop and thrived
Also, let’s not forget how Brooke’s passion for dance was literally destroyed by Abby - and when she started to distance herself from the activity, she was belittled for it. I applaud Kelly for supporting her daughters through everything and anything - and it sucks that the only way she was able to get out of the show was by physically assaulting someone.
She actually had started doing cheer before they aired it but she couldn’t compete bc of the stupid contract
@@annaarredondo2043 PERIOD. abby & kelly obviously have a history we will never understand but it's no reason to take it out on CHILDREN
No one:
Not a soul:
Jill: My LiTtLe KeNdALL sHoULd Be RoSa PaRkS
Christiana Carusone yea Jill was on drugs lmaoo
Sharna Grayson defo smoking crack with that one
I’m sorry but Jill low key racist☕️
I could literally hear this in her voice lmfao
Imagine the controversy. I bet you a million bucks the producers told her to fight for it.
Title: "Everything wrong with Dance Moms"
*1 hour and 12 minutes*
Yeah sounds about right.
Honestly this could have been longer but then again self harm isn't good
@@photofreak56 lmao
lmfaoo
could be longer but it's okay
I saw the title, I noticed the length of the video, and thought oh yeah that's the kind of stuff I like
i remember in season 1, holly was upset (rightfully so) that nia was getting type cast, and kelly was like “i don’t understand, my kids get typecast all the time. brooke only does acro solos” which i think perfectly explains the understanding (or lack there of) of race relations and racism in dance moms
this bro
Yeah I was like ? . There is a huge difference between Being type casted as what type of dance you do well I.e. for example Brooke doing acro versus Being type casted because of your race
Completely agree, but I also don't think Kelly was the sharpest tool in the shed if you catch my drift lol. This is the woman who didn't know who Anne Frank was and basically asked 'who is Anne Frank and why did she write a diary?' and she was dead serious. I hope today she's a little more versed in recognizing racism, but we couldn't have expected her to understand or even be aware of the subtle racism that's found in type casting or insulting Nia's hair, back then.
kelly and christi discussed that on an episode of their podcast and let’s just say that 11 years later kelly still stands by that 💀
@@colette5413 in the podcast kelly literally said that nia being steroptypes by race and brooke being stereotyped as an acro dancer are not at all the same thing and she knows the difference?? do you even listen to the podcast bro??
Can we talk about how Holly even mothered the other kids while their mother's were off on rampages against each other? Give her the crown
William Cousins holly is the woman i aspire to be i love that woman idek her but seeing her on the show? queen
she already has the crown
Exspecially kenzie
I LOVE Dr. Holly!!! she can stand her ground without cursing, yelling, or hitting below the belt. I would love to be able to do that. she wasn't afraid to stand her ground, even with no backup. that woman is a queen
William Cousins exactly
Maddie was abused.
She was constantly doing anxious type habits. She bit her nails, cracked her knuckles and wanted to organize when she got flustered. She had a panic attack when she forgot her solo. She was nine years old.
There is a clip of Abby telling Maddie “Chloe will never be happy for you.” She constantly said everyone was jealous of Maddie. It was absolutely disgusting.
She was insanely abused. In a different way than the other girls. Favoritism to this level is abuse. Period.
kaitie648 I completely agree. She received the same emotional abuse level as the other girls but it’s often overlooked because people think abuse looks one way when it doesn’t. Abby isolated her and built a wall from the other girls it was so sad.
Totally agree. The way Maddie was treated was completely different from Nia and Pagie which she did get the other girls. How do you put so much pressure on a nine-year-old girl? Maddie couldn’t handle all that she just craked that emotional breakdown you saw I believe that was from everything Abby said to her. I believe when Maddie forgot her solo because she was thinking of what Abby said to her. About what she thought Chloe said. I think she said some other stuff that just wasn’t showing on camera.Abby needs to realize these girls can crack under pressure but she wants them to be this amazing grown-up dancers keyword grown-up when they are 8 some of my believe were 6
Abby also constantly took away her opportunities when Maddie was just trying to either be a good friend or not be arrogant. When Maddie refused to do a solo against that boy from Candy Apples, Abby took away her solos for a while - Maddie was just trying to give Chloe a chance. When Maddie sat in the parking lot with everyone else because Brooke and Paige weren't allowed in the studio, Abby made it seem like it was Maddie's fault for not coming inside, when she was just doing what her mom told her and sticking up for her friends. Abby makes her CRY and APOLOGIZE for these things. She was NINE YEARS OLD and emotionally manipulated. All of these girls had it horrible but people make it seem like Maddie had this great experience when in reality it caused her so many problems.
and that one episode where abby made all the dance moms and dancers vote on which one was better (chloe and maddie) and you could see that it was a uncomfortable situation for both of the two and that maddie felt bad. it’s so aggravating how they just always singled maddie out and compared her to HER OWN FRIENDS. then in that one dance mom episode where that one women was interviewing maddie and kenzie and kept bringing up on how maddie gets favorited by others and blah blah blah and you could see how uncomfortable and how much she wanted to get that question over with in her face but like fr i feel the same way that she was abused emotionally just differently than what the other girls were receiving.
Abby’s low treatment of the other girls showed Maddie what would happen if she made a mistake, while isolating her from girls who could’ve been her best friends and idk if an adult could cope with that kind of pressure alone let alone a 9 year old girl
“Chloe was the most talented dancer” SOMEONE SAID IT
@@ang4588 she most definitely was
Chloe had great ballet potential as a child, and should've been in a school that focused on ballet with mentally healthy teachers.
@@ang4588 were talking about Abby taught no the girls who Abby plucked from different teams
@@ang4588 you’re probably just blind don’t deny the girl had talent
she had so much potential, it’s a shame that Abby did everything in her power to stop her from succeeding .
Some things:
-Anyone wanna mention how some of the ALDC production people have been arrested for possession of pedophilic content on their computers?
-Why is it not a requirement in reality tv with children to have child therapists?
-Producers were constantly telling everyone what to do and say, especially in the way later seasons (to my understanding).
-The moms had to stay at the dance studio because of child labor laws.
-Dance moms was originally supposed to be a two or three episode documentary. It really should have stayed that way.
-Also, because of this show, quite a few of the girls now have stalkers. Like actual, scary, stalkers. All because of this show.
It's also how weird how adult some of the dance themes where. They literally did a performance about suicide hotlines
I remember one comment in a different video that Nia said that the producers would touch some of them in inappropriate places and for the girls not to tell their mothers the producers would give them gifts like iPads
@@myoweri do you know what video that was that’s so awful
@@Strawbri3 it was on of dance moms uncovered but i forgot what vid
They actually had a child therapist on the spinoff show, Abby Lees Ultimate Dance Competition (which is where they found Kalani and Jojo). All the kids that were under ten had to undergo a psych evaluation to see if they could handle the stress of it. However, anyone above ten didn't have to and none of the girls on Dance Moms ever went through that. I think a lot of the neglect towards the girls happened because when Season 1 came out, reality TV wasn't included in child labor laws.
This show was TOXIC on sooo many levels but chloe was the most effected
honestly- and probably nia, kendall, and kelly’s daughters too
they were all affected so much
and paige
If you’ve seen the later seasons, I would say Camryn was the most effected
Ellie Sunshine yes.. and Elliana as well. Did you see that little 8 year old say “I’m not good enough”?
It's sickening how much Abby hated Chloe lol. Notice how Chloe is the only one who wasn't in the "Freaks like Me" music video with Todrick Hall. That's because Abby literally wouldn’t let her be in it. Abby said that if Todrick included Chloe in the video, none of the other girls could be in it, which is actually disgusting. She wouldn't let Chloe be in Mackenzie's "Girl Party" music video either.
Also, Abby literally admitted on the Rosie O'Donnell show that she purposely treated Chloe like garbage because she knew Chloe couldn't quit the show no matter what she said to her because of her contract.
This is all because chole was better than maddie that literally it. Maddie was the favourite and was given the space to shin and she was able to outshine most of the girls either because the other weren't as good or didnt really care. Chole however was a diamond in the rough fantastic dancer abby and maddie knew. And abby wanted maddie to shine so she kept telling chole she was shit
It also had to be with her mother, Christi was probably one of if not the most iconic mom on dance moms but Abby hated her family and hated Christi for something to do with contracts. but Abby knew 100% that Chloe was better than Maddie, and what pissed her off the most was going to sleep at night KNOWING that fact. I bet she would stay up and cry at night for the fact that Chloe was better. said what I said.
The Kid you said it queen
The Kid Maddie was a better all-rounder than Chloe and that’s it. Chloe and her had pretty equal technique early-on, but Maddie alway surpassed her in actual transitions, musicality, fluidity, movement-quality, presence, versatility, etc. She had things naturally that Chloe just didn’t ... She wasn’t a diamond on the rough, despite being good for her age. Literally all the Seniors were questioned before DM and asked who the best mini was, and they all said Maddie, and/as she had even COMPETED with them previously ...
-ˏˋMilitiaˎˊ- Chloe wasn’t the better dancer, though ... There’s a reason Brooke and Maddie had won the most awards, technical/musical plaques and titles before and during DM ... She just wasn’t fluid, didn’t excel at as many styles, didn’t understand the transitions as well as the rises and falls of the music naturally, etc.
I feel like people forget that Kendall, Maddie, and Paige all had anxiety issues over their dance instructor. I think that's why Paige forgot her solos and Kendall crying a lot.
Right and everyone calls Kendall a crybaby I’m like 👁👄👁 no
@@irhrjjrjrkekwoowoe right???? kendall had multiple anxiety attacks ON CAMERA throughout the years and everyone just calls her a crybaby like excuse me??????
And Chloe had major confidence issues Abby legit called Chloe the most cocky kid ever which makes no sense because Chloe is one of the most humble kids I have ever seen but you know...
@@nathalie3601 kids don't generally have anxiety unless they are put into extremely stressful situations. The producers can edit a situation to make someone look a certain way but in reality they are not that person. Plus Kendall seems to be a lot more confident now and I am living for it.
@@annaconigliaro2907 yes!! all the girls seem alot happier and more confident now
If you weren't a Holly stan, you weren't watching the same show.
I'm not.
wasnt even any type of mom stan because they let their kids stay there while being yelled and manipulated by an angry uncaring dance teacher lol you can say they couldnt leave cause they have a contract but the moms couldve done something literally most of these girls now have ptsd cause of this
i feel like a lot of people forget how manipulative and gross abby was towards maddie as well. all the pressure she put on her?? she was eight years old and had panic attacks because she did one wrong step in her routine, and all she could think about was how angry abby would be at her. seriously, she was eight and had everyone using HER as a means to yell at her friends, because she was on the top of the pyramid all the time, and a lot of the fights was around maddie getting solos instead of the others. like i cant imagine that did not leave a big mark on her. abby was not the same kind of bully to maddie as she was to the others, but the way she singled out maddie all the time certainly did something to damage her mentally, and it damaged her relationships with the other girls.
Omg i rmbr when she forgot her solo, ngl i felt rly scared for her too
Periodt
Exactly there is even a disturbing clip of Abby telling Maddie that Chloe will never be happy for you
she didn't exactly have panic attacks, but there was an unhealthy amount of pressure on her and you could tell.
thank you!! Everyone thinks it was all cupcakes and rainbows, but as the "favorite" kid, they don't understand how pressuring it is and how much anxiety it brought me.
Don’t forget the time nia had to play a literal GANG MEMBER in a group dance, brynn, who was naturally small and petite, had to play an anorexic girl, and camryn, the only other somewhat permanent member who was a POC, had to play a PROSTITUTE. This was all in the same dance. It’s insane what abby did to these girls
holy shit
It's her lack of creativity
Wait... what dance was this?
Mackenzie from season 7, called “is there still hope”
Wtaf
Abby even admitted the producers wouldn't let her kick Chloe off the show. So she knew Chloe also couldn't break her contract so she realized she could say or do anything to her. She literally admitted it :/. Also she made fun of Chloes medical condition and thats what made them leave. Because after that the producers couldn't even force them to stay within their contract.
So wrong, such an unsafe working environment for children.
Christi didn’t want to sign the new aldc contract which said that they can’t gain more than 10 lbs and Christi being an icon didn’t sign it. so
Chloe didn’t compete outside of the show and she wasn’t allowed to wear any aldc clothing except for her team jacket. Abby absolutely despised Chloe and Christi because of that and she tried to keep getting her off the team. The only reason they were able to leave is because around season 2 all the moms protested a higher pay and Christi asked for a shorter contract.
Something that didn't sit right with me (even as a child) was that everyone was trying to villianize Holly when she couldn't be at EVERY competition and rehearsal. I mean why are a bunch of stay at home moms coming after a principal with a school to run (or was she a nurse? She did something in school, been years since I watched the show) (btw nothing wrong with being a stay at home mom, it just wasn't right for them to try and make Holly seem evil for having a job)
Also like some of them have other children, why are they just sitting in a dance studio?
@@samfielder8789 Yes! Who was watching Clara every time Christi was at the studio? When Kira dared to prioritize her baby over filming, the moms completely turned on her.
@@ailema.4548 didn’t Christi take Clara with her to the studio? But she wasn’t filmed most of the time because someone (I don’t know who) didn’t want someone “cuter than Mackenzie” or some BS on the show.
someone in the comments said that the moms always had to be at the studio because of child labor laws so maybe that’s why they were mad?
@@nova4476 when the show first started there were no child labour laws for reality tv, i think they were a couple of seasons in before the laws were put into effect
Can we just talk about how creepy Abby was towards Maddie... Like that one time Abby cried like a baby because Maddie, a child, didn’t listen to her dance teacher and obeyed her mother. The codependence she had on Maddie was seriously creepy as hell. No wonder it seemed like Maddie was suffering from anxiety issues. Abby put her at this crazy standard that she was bound to crack under.
That was a way Abby manipulated Maddie it was so disturbing to watch
the fact that she showed up to maddie’s movie premiere for “book of henry” randomly.
alex ツ Literally stalked the invite and location, too, cause no one invited her or even wanted her to be there in the first place ...
Squiggly Pop and if Abby was a man, the police would’ve gotten involved
Abby was actually crying because her mom was sick in that scene, the producers edited it to make it seem like she cried because of Maddie
favorite girls: chloe and asia. favorite mom: DOCTOR holly
Hannah C. How is Maddie not your favorite she was amazing
omg HOLLY YESS
@@aurorachanel4502 maddie isn't everyone's favorite
Adwoa Boateng well she’s definitely mines☺️
Aurora Chanel lol she's a great dancer doesn't mean she has to be a favorite
I was FURIOUS and yelling at the TV when Abby put Dr. Holly down for putting her Ph D graduation above a dance competition. A Ph D graduation is a HUGE DEAL! There is a hooding ceremony, it's a once in a lifetime experience! Nia should have been able to be there with her mother that day. Dr. Holly is a class act, and Nia definitely takes after her!
I didn't have an issue with Melissa's parenting of Maddie, but her parenting of Mackenzie is questionable. She didn't seem to stick up for Mackenzie in ways she would stick up about Maddie to Abby, and she definitely fed into Mackenzie being compared to Maddie. I feel like she invalidated whenever her kids were upset because she didn't want her kids crying on TV.
that's sad nothing worse than your own mother betraying you and putting another sibling on a pedestal.
Honestly her parenting of Mackenzie made me question her parenting of Maddie. Maddie was ultimately a miniature adult, she seemed to miss out on a lot of her childhood (I honestly wondered if she knew how to play and have fun outside of dance), and it just seemed like Melissa was preparing Maddie to be her source of income.
Tbh it was the show in real like her and makenzie are mad close
Sharna Grayson yeah but the show did put a lot of strain on their relationship in real life because people were always comparing Mackenzie to Maddie. They have opened up about it, and Mackenzie said there was even a time that she didn’t really like Maddie because of it, but I was so happy to see that they were able to get past it. And people are now seeing Mackenzie as her own person and not just Maddie’s little sister.
She does in later seasons
Y’all remember when nia BEAT kahlani in a competition to see who’s going to nationals.....AND ABBY SAID NEVER MIND AND STILL GAVE IT TO KAHLANI .....I gave up at that moment 🤦🏽♀️
I was just thinking about this, it made no sense at all, they knew that it was being judged by teens and it wasnt a problem in the beginning, yet when Nia won it became an issue. And what annoyed me even more was that Kira was defending that foolishness
nia did end up with the dance. she earned it and deserved. kira was fine with the deal till nia won. and I'll add that nia was fabulous in bye felicia!!! she was awesome!!
I remember that and I was so happy for Nia when she won. And then Abby was like “they’re kids anyway they aren’t proper judges” and took it from her
its kalani
InkyGreen ‘Tea I WAS DONE. DONE.
*my little Kendal would be perfect for the role of Rosa Parks*
I really really hope the producers told her to say that...because if not 💀💀
Coconut Oreo They did, lmao. It was set-up for the “delusional Jill” narrative/storyline/character and drama ...
@@ang4588 yea I was hoping, I was thinking that no would could actually be that delusional
That Darkskin Samantha 🤣
Jojos mother was the reason for her success, every time Abby tore her down she reminded her it wasn’t worth the years and to be the bigger person. Mojo always took criticism with grace and humility
None of those moms can even attempt to hold a candle to Holly.
Holly was not perfect lmao. They definitely hold a candle to her
@@corimoon3360 please explain??
@@corimoon3360 she may not be perfect but like her competition isnt much
She definitely wasn’t as composed but I liked Christi a lot (probably because she cracked me up so much)
People forget that Asia was on this show, Asia is the best thing that has ever happened to this team! She definitely gave Mackenzie a run for her money and even when Mackenzie did Asia’s solo, it just wasn’t it let’s be honest. I used to think that jazz solos were so lame because I never saw a good jazz performance from the show, then I saw Asia and she SHOOK THE TABLE! Then jazz solos somehow became the best thing I’ve ever seen
yes! girl had her own show too because of how AMAZING she was.
Asia really had Mackenzie and Melissa shook lol. She doesn't get enough credit
Emanuel M Asia really deserved more even after her reality tv show was cancelled
If Asia stayed on the show she would have BODIED every single dancer on the team. Her technique started getting better quickly and NO ONE not even Jojo had her stage presence
Emanuel M she was even better than maddie
CAN WE TAKE A MOMENT TO REMEMBER THAT ABBY KEPT PUSHING THAT LAQUEEFA SOLO ON NIA BECAUSE SHE CLAIMED THAT SHE NEEDED TO BE PREPARED FOR "ETHNIC" CASTINGS.
And that Nia should’ve been “grateful” to be black and to be given this solo because it opens her up to “more opportunities.” 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Kenya Moore YES!!!!
Ceci N i’m so dead how does that “open up opportunities” when you still getting typecasted abby is TWISTED
SHE JUST NEEDED A BLACK GIRL ON THE TEAM SO SHE LOOKED LESS RACIST THAN SHE ACTUALLY WHICH IS JUST EVIL!!!! SHE WAS SO RUDE TO HER AND CAMRYN JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR SKIN TONE! THAT IS DISGUSTING
Abby was so jealous of Holly, she mentioned multiple times how Holly believed herself "better because she was a doctor". And I was like...What? Holly never put herself over the moms🤦🏻♀️
Favorite Holly line "you're entitled to your wrong opinion"
it always pissed me off how they treated Nia in the show. her and chloe deserved better
Same
EXACTLY
Everything wrong with dance moms: Abby Lee Miller
😂😂😂 PERIOD
I could do a rant on this woman
Honestly I woupdve been happy with a 5 second video of her just saying "Abby Lee Miller" and it ends but we got over an hour so i aint gonna complain
You left out the producers
I looooved Asia she was INCREDIBLE. I remember her getting her own spin off but it didn’t last long smh I wonder how she doing now. I looooved kehlani as well def my two favs.
This show was def my fav reality show like EVER 😩.
i loveeed the spin off lol i was OBSESSED with her😭
Asia is on TikTok now she's doing so good and she so beautiful and genuinely happy
yeah she’s been doing modeling for a while and started up her own singing career. you should check her out, she goes by Asia Monet Ray 💕
Same here I loved her attitude ❤️loved her when she was on AUDC aswell she was like 6 years old competing against 14 year olds and she held her own so well!
asia is cool. kehlani on the other hand, she's a big trumpie and conservative and thinks blue lives matter 😩🤚shes gross
i remember when kelley talked about how she thinks it’s unreasonable that holly was upset about the laqueefa dance because brooke was always “typecasted” as an acrobat. like that ! is ! not ! the ! same ! thing ! kelley !
The racism.. omg.. the racism was so disgusting Abby would be incredibly racist to Nia with all the typecast solos and the whole issue with her hair where Abby said she couldn’t have braids .. she also told Camryn it was weird that the bottoms of her feet were lighter than the top.. and idk if anybody talks about this but Jade (the asian girl who was there for a second) got this super typecast like “mysterious sensual geisha type” solo called far east with like Panda Express music in the background and it just .. ugh it was very uncomfortable to watch Abby Lee Miller is a racist I said what I said
marble soda i think he only thing with the typecasting is that they felt it would be “inappropriate” for any other girl to do it. For example the Rosa parks number Jill wanted kendall to play rosa parks instead of Nia which would have looked off. But everything else you said was 100% true and sad honestlyj
Lou Mutlu um yes but the whole point about typecasting in this situation is that THESE ARE THE ONLY TYPE OF ROLES THAT SHE’D GIVE NIA or other rare people of color on the team. THAT is the problem. She ain’t even give one of the other girls a dance about some Italian or Russian or white American figure but Nia always had to represent something in black history or stereotype in order to dance. She could never give her straight coreo
Curls On Mai she gave Maddie a solo about leaving Berlin. It’s show biz and a white woman isn’t going to play Rosa parks. Some things she said are crass and ignorant but racist is not the word. She treated Nia the same as the others. Maddie is the only one she had a soft spot for.
Riley The Poo & Me Too! racist is definitely the word . saying she can’t have braids ? saying she didn’t want a little tootsie on stage ? and the whole point like they said are those are the only solos nia got were because of her color and they needed someone black. maddie doing one berlin solo out of the hundreds she had wasn’t racist bc that wasn’t the only solos she was getting.
Lou Mutlu but the problem is that Abby NEVER gave nia solos expect when no one could do it (like the Rosa parks one)
MS ASIA MONET RAY SHOOK THOSE GIRLS AND THEIR MOMS!!! she was a true performer!!!!
You need to check her out now. Not only can she dance but the girl can SING!!!!!!
Abby said in season 8 ‘I never wanted Chloe to win, but she did’ so it’s hard for me to hate Christi bc she was 100% right. Abby had something seriously against Chloe and non of the other moms ever stuck up for her
Something I noticed is that there were countless times that Abby called some of the girls gorgeous and beautiful. Paige, Kendall, Maddie, Kalani, Brynn, Kenzie, Chloe, and Brooke received compliments about their looks countless times from Abby (usually before she would put them down for lack of dance skills) but she never complimented Nia’s looks. There were times when she would talk about Nia’s hair and body shape negatively. She never once said stuff like that to the other girls. The other girls were always told how pretty they were and that’s why they had potential to dance but Abby never spoke about Nia’s looks that way. Nia is obviously a gorgeous young girl but I think it’s clear that Abby had a specific image of what beautiful was (ahem racism). Nia craved Abby’s attention and validation because she was the only girl she never or almost ever validated in any way. Nia saw the other girls getting different types of strange complements (still doesn’t make what Abby did to the other girls okay) and knew that she never got those compliments and we could see how badly she wanted them. Abby was emotionally abusive and manipulative towards all of the girls but probably more severely towards Nia and it’s so obvious why.
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This is actually both the best and worst show in the world
Omg how tf did I get that many likes 😂
This cannot be more true
the duality of man
You could say that with glee too!
A cultural reset
Best way to describe it😂
I feel like Abby was intimidated by Holly. She took every shot at her she could, and gave her a hard time for not "being there" for Nia when she had a full time job.
Holly has a doctorate, a beautiful family, and tons of class. Abby hates that.
Nia is SUCH a beautiful and talented girl, anyone can see that. There's a reason she was on a soap opera for so long, she had some of the best acting on her team. And her voice???? She's a great singer.
Thank god Holly's such a great mom, Nia's still thriving today.
Laura B i agree, and abby was lowkey racist too.
ikr but then when Melissa left for 2 weeks to go with her boyfriend abby took care of Maddie and Mackenzie...
@@valcarrillo3956 TRUE
monica high key racist
*applause*
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Welcome
01:12 - Intro
04:23 - The girls
05:30 - Jojo Siwa
06:13 - Sophia
07:20 - Kalani
08:57 - Asia
11:24 - Kendall
14:40 - Paige
16:56 - Brooke
19:53 - Mckenzie
23:10 - Maddie
27:40 - Nia
34:45 - Chloe
40:08 - Conclusion of kids
40:29 - The Moms
40:44 - Kristie Ray
41:13 - Leslie
42:25 - Melissa
44:05 - Jill
46:46 - Dr Holly
51:48 - Kelly
53:28 - Christi
56:47 - Conclusion of the moms
57:39 - Abby
59:54 - Common arguments
1:00:17 - Candy apples
1:02:16 - New team
1:03:58 - Christi v Kelly
1:04:58 - Cathy v Abby
1:05:03 - Leslie v Christi
1:05:39 - Kelly v Abby
1:05:57 - Dance moms' major issue
1:08:48 - Dance moms' impact
1:09:40 - Amanda's favourite dances
1:10:45 - END
thank you!!
Bless you❤❤❤
Remember when Abby kissed Maddie?!?!?! I always found that so disturbing and everyone forgets that scene. Since people always dismiss how weird Abby was towards Maddie.
Thats a BIG yikes. Imagine if it was an older guy kissing her, shit would have hit the fan
girl can we talk about the fact Maddie was forced to have her first kiss with someone she didnt even know on live television
savannah robinson I was so disgusted by this. What made it even worse was that grown adults were dragging her for her reaction.
savannah robinson i don’t understand why it couldn’t have been just a kiss on the cheek. Forcing kids to kiss is just weird
Gino and Maddie knew each other for three years but Abby making Maddie kiss him was wrong
YESSSS! It obviously ruined the friendship between Maddie and Gino
savannah robinson Y’all remember that inappropriate ass dance called Electricity from season one? They were like 8!
Girl when Mackenzie beat Maddie and MELISSA said she didn’t think Mackenzie should’ve won
Elaina Sperry Yeah that was messed up
Elaina Sperry yeah a whole level of messed up for a mother to say
Elaina Sperry ok but it was true Maddie was best.
@@aurorachanel4502 Okay but she acted like Maddie was robbed.
Aurora Chanel that’s not something you say to your daughter, regardless if you thought one was more talented than the other.
maddie gave me brooke vibes in season 5 and 6, she was tired of competing and tired of the show yet she kept winning. the irony of that is brooke used to be the favorite before maddie, so my suspicion is that abby 100% burnt those girls out. she overworked her favorite dancers and killed their passion. she hurt all their passions, but maddie & brooke were different if that makes sense.
Nia was my favorite. Abby did her so dirty, it hurt to see her be a victim of racism. She was a beautiful kid. Period.
Low key I think nia is the most beautiful there all beautiful I just think bias got that Extra zaz for stardom it’s lowkey tho cuz I seen a million different versions of Maddie Kendall and Chloe every other white girl .
Chloe and Maddie are two perfect examples of what happens when you nurture a child’s talent and instill confidence in them, vs when you don’t. Chloe was just as talented as Maddie. The only difference was that Maddie was constantly praised and, as a result, lived up to her full potential. Chloe, on the other hand, was constantly picked apart and torn down so she always fell short of being great.
The tongue has the power of life and death. Someone cannot flourish if you don’t speak LIFE over them.
Very true great point
Chloe had better technique before Abby started ruining her life
Also Chloe was undeniably better in season 2, then lifetime and Abby had to brainwash everyone into loving maddie
faith all along I mean ... did they really “brainwash” people into loving Maddie when they literally spoonfed her “bratty” lines to make her a target of dislike and hatred of people watching, and when they didn’t even show her getting a scholarship like Chloe and turned the editing on her to try and portray her as “upset” over “not getting one” when she did and it was actually just her anxiety?? Nah. She wasn’t the one well-portrayed or favored by the editors/producers, just by Abby ...
Annali right, it’s terrible how this show damaged these kids
Some of the worst typecasting I've ever seen in dance moms was in the 7th season in the "is there still hope" routine. Abby had nia and carmen (both black girls) play a gangster and a prostitute while the other girls got much more tame roles
rootin tootin putin I don’t have the energy like- STOP
👀👀
abby lee really hated kids and anyone of colour huh
the way abby ALWAYS gave nia these ghetto characters...
rootin tootin putin and they had kendall as a crack addict as well smacking her arm veins on stage i- that dance made me so uncomfortable
i personally think kalani should’ve stuck with ballet because she trained for over 8 years and had an immense natural talent that was kind of wasted in the competitive dance world.
True and competition is such a short period of your life as a dancer. I think ballet would've served her much more in the long run. But its definately not too late 👌👌
yeah in my opinion i feel like this show was a waste of her talents
In another way, she preserved herself. Balet enforces anorexia. Kalani got to save ger gorgeous body, and be appreciated by more this way.
you should've talked about brynn and ashlee.
ashlee had some.. moments but jill and jess literally BULLIED brynn
Jill HATED brynn. She felt so threatened by her.
Brynn was a brat though. Not that it’s justified
@@katherinediane3988 eh she definitely had some bratty moments however she was properly bullied by fully grown women for 2 whole seasons and was i believe 11 or 12 years old so i think we can forgive her lmao
@@katherinediane3988 no she wasnt
ashlee also bullied kendall too so it wasn’t just jill bullying brynn.
The biggest lost talent on this show was Brynn. How do you take one of the country's BEST junior dancers, kill her passion, and make her quit dance forever? Ridiculously tragic, considering I watched Brynn even before Dance Moms, and she was a shining light of hope and brilliance in dance.
this show was unbelievably toxic. and the fact that people were saying abby was better behind the scenes is a lie. if she was so much better, these girls would’ve had their dance passion still and not have trauma and anxiety disorders from the treatment of abby.
It was Jill and the other mom's fault. They couldn't accept Brynn's talent!! They couldn't accept that she was better than Kendall
i stopped watching a while ago what exactly happened to brynn
London Blu brynn was basically bullied by jesselyn and jill for no reason, brynn’s mom didn’t make it any better.
Tbh in my opinion I thought both Ashlee and Jill were at fault. Ashlee started taking a boy all kids. She said that Kendall is old news and that kalani isn’t as good as she used to be. She even said that Abby could pick any of your kids and have said that you’re the next Maddie but she picked Brynn. But Jill said bad things about Brynn while Brynn was there. I feel like if in the beginning Ashlee wasn’t like that it would’ve all been fine.
Update: I wish all of the girls came out unscathed, but not all of them did. Chloe just came forward on Instagram saying that she has an eating disorder, and it’s been mentioned by various sources that Paige, Mackenzie, and Kendall have all needed therapy for anxiety. So sad...these girls deserved so much better.
loveanddreambig Maddie was in intense therapy as well. She talked about it in a couple of Spotify podcasts.
Chloe suffers from anxiety and panic attacks as well
Camryn Bridges also needed therapy for depression and anxiety after being on the show. It sucks :(
Paige had a full on anxiety attack about Abby on the show and she said she hated her and she was only there for her friends. Abby was so cruel to that kid
@@ang4588 Whats the podcast/episode name?
I disagree about Kelly having an affect on Brooke on her spark with dancing. Brooke said on her own youtube channel that even before the show she was already starting to lose her spark for dancing as she wanted to hang out with her friends more and start cheerleading or something new. She did overall say it was Abby that ruined her passion, not her mom
Even with Dr. Holly being the most eloquent mom they still made her look like she was a villain. they did her SO wrong
Paige got absolutely destroyed for no good reason, she was always on the bottom but never given any opportunities to prove herself although she always did well when she got a trio or a duo. You could literally see her go from a giggly and happy young girl into an anxiety ridden preteen who just wanted her teachers approval. Paige Hyland deserved better. (All the girls did but I feel like y’all sleep on paige’s trauma the most)
Also for anyone coming for her technique or ability. It was an AFTER SCHOOL HOBBY for her + most of the other girls. Like (except for Maddie and Mackenzie) their lives did not resolve around winning dance competitions! Imagine thousands of people ripping into you even years after you stopped regarding how you perform in netball, basketball, soccer, dance etc!!
Paige would literally have panic attacks every show because of the constant vindictive words and actions of Abby...imagine if she would have given her the same amount of time as she gave Maddie?? the girl could be on Broadway with those long ass legs
remember when abby threw the chair at her??
Paige is the girl I felt probably got the worst of it. All the scenes where Paige started having panic attacks are heartbreaking.
My FAVORITE episode of any season of dance moms is the episode where they all get solos and PAIGE WINS. Nothing can ever top that! It went so far downhill after that, but watching her do her little solo and then win, and give the speech about how Abby doesn’t give her a lot of opportunities but she proved her wrong.. priceless.
I feel like paige could have been WAY better if abby gave her good choreo and if abby put her past history aside and taught without projecting her hate for Kelly on paige
the producers are literally the reason why these girls are probs scarred for life and have severe anxiety issues i hate it here
angela tracy right
angela tracy all in the name of entertainment yessss
Facts
I felt so bad for Paige. That poor little girl was way too sweet and sensitive for the treatment that she received. All the girls were sweet, but every child responds differently to certain teaching methods. Paige was way too vulnerable for Abby’s methods.
ok but imagine if brooke had had a good, nurturing dance teacher who really just worked with her and was kind and caring... imagine the power brooke would still have.
the micro aggressions towards nia and holly🤦🏾♀️ imagine how tired we are
somethingstupid } And sometimes it was just flat out said and I was young so It didn’t even register.
This might seem dark, but karma beat TF out of Abby. If you know, you know.
tell us pls shshshs
idkmanwhatsthat Jail, being in a wheelchair due to cancer paralyzing parts of her, none of her original students having contact with her anymore, etc.
That's a fact
TRUE!
sick of this shit. Fr
Abby was a BULLY, I don't know why she has fans.
If I remember correctly, Paige was at the top of the pyramid ONCE. ONCE. Maddie was at the top of the pyramid (hum hum) a grand total of FIFTY SIX times. And Maddie was NOT at the top of the pyramid (when she was still on the show) FIFTY FOUR TIMES. ALL the other girls combined were less at the top of the pyramid than ONLY Maddie was.
That is actually insane.
Cause the order was decided by producers, and half the time Maddie was at the top (or certain other girls weren’t), was to instigate drama between the moms 💀
The happiest I ever was watching this show was when Dr. Holly and Nia called out Abby for not putting Nia on the top of the pyramid when she was the lead, and the group won. Something about Nia sticking for herself when she was clearly ROBBED of a moment that was supposed to be for HER... it was well due at that point
also kendall always gets labeled as a spoiled brat. and maybe she is to some extent but people should give her the benefit of the doubt. she definitely had severe anxiety and i don’t think she was a crybaby at all. i think she would cry in frustration a lot because she knew she was on the verge of panic attacks. she’s just as traumatized as the rest of those girls.
honestly people call those poor girls brats bc they were having panic attacks at nine years old. people ignore how toxic that environment was for children
Kendall for me wasn’t that bad but I remember some scenes where she was rude to some of the girls. Can’t remember if it was camryn, brynn, Jojo or nia. But her mom was kinda mean so I can’t blame her
Nah Kendall is a brat😂 I agree with the anxiety, but theres not one child on that team who hasn't told a story about how Kendall was mean to them. Look at how Jill act, it's no secret she raised brats. Theres always a brat in the bunch and Kendall just so happen to be the one in this group.
Tyler Thomas agreed I watched that show all the time like her anxiety isn’t a excuse to be disrespectful to the girl
YurrGirlYanii who was she disrespectful to?
Why is no one talking about Kendall. That girl had clear anxiety and everyone called her a brat for it! When Abby made her upset, Jill would just make it worse.
RIGHT OMG ITS SO SADDDD
abby put all her eggs in maddie’s basket and that’s why she couldn’t stand that brooke and chloe were on her level, and at times even better. she couldn’t fathom that she judged wrong. she def hated kelly and christi the most, and she wanted to use their daughters losses against them.
The real truth, Dance Moms was secretly about Nia persevering through generational systematic oppression. The way that girl would get beat down by Abby weekly and then STILL find the strength to show up with her head held high, An icon.
Word. She was the only remaining original cast moms.
she still couldn't dance well tho
ShookyShooky stfu
She's a strong dancer
@@shookyshooky6407 yeah thats why she got accepted into a dance company.
Brooke was actually like maddie when she was younger she won all the awards for Abby but by 15 she was burnt out and pyramid was three hours long that’s why Brooke looked miserable she said , and it’s true because look by time maddie hit 15 she was burnt out too and done with Abby . And Brooke crushed her growth plate or something from doing acro all them years which is why she’s so short so she dedicated her life to dance but again it was a negative environment and who would be happy or motivated when someone is tearing you down.
I am SO glad you talked about how racist Abby is. She is a terrible, awful child abuser who the producers couldn’t even make look good through editing.
the saddest part about the chloe and maddie “rivalry” was the fact that they were literally best friends, there were so many clips in seasons 1 and 2 of them being so happy for each other no matter what, holding hands while walking before one goes on stage, etc. it’s so upsetting to me that abby (and their parents tbh) has to ruin the adorable friendship they had, and now they aren’t even “allowed” to be friends as adults per their parents. it’s heartbreaking
omg yes there is a video on UA-cam of them dancing to a video star thing too a Katy Perry song and it’s so cute and it looked like they had a genuine friendship :(
theyre allowed to be friends now
@@a.b.5473 oh thank goodness
@@peachomy4385 i saw that, it was cute
their friends now, like the og girls and moms are now close to eachothe. which makes me so happy and like ik the moms (except for christi) have a podcast together.
Jojo doesn’t get enough credit for her professionalism and maturity. Girl had every right to never speak to Abby again with how horrible she was treated, but instead she hustled, made millions, and returned to the show to give advice. She is such a great role model and I’m so glad she has blown up the way she has
And people often disrespect her saying that she’s childish but she’s a good role model for the millions of kids who like her. Much better than a lot of people.
Honestly. I personally might not enjoy her content, but I really admire that Jojo is such a positive role model for little girls. A lot of kids feel such a pressure to grow up so fast, it’s nice someone is telling them it’s okay to be silly, be loud and have fun. I can really see Jojo as a children’s show host once she’s older.
I love Jojo... Abby treated her like such shit and yet she still went to visit Abby while in the hospital.
Although I think it’s great that JoJo is such a great role model, her actions are not normal for a girl her age. I feel like JoJo might like acting younger than she actually is because she never got to act like a child because she had to grow up so fast bc of the competition world. I just hope she’s okay and gets the help she needs if that’s actually why she acts the way she does
@@nataliepaterra2277 you know she only does it for the money right...
Abby was an emotional abuser and when she said “my mother would beat my ass” or “if my mom saw this” or “if my mom heard you crying” like while yelling at children who aren’t hers. She has to have some sort of trauma to project her rage at children that way with no remorse. And projecting her own insecurities on all the mothers.
That scene where she’s breaking down in tears in front of Maddie, screaming at her and claiming betrayal, all cause Maddie listened to her mother makes me physically ill, tbh
"STOP DENYING THE TALENT" YESS FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT
DR. HOLLY is a queen. “Girls get out of the room” “okay empty chair do a solo” Q-U-E-E-N!!!
Empty chair super iconic
I don’t think Nia had a lot of microaggressions, I genuinly think making a black girl take all the animal rules and giving her no other options, making her feel unimportant, and couldn’t even let her have the hair she wanted is much worse then microaggressions. Microaggresions are considered accidental based subconciously and I don’t think Abby did this on accident.
!!! Omg you’re right!! Little sis DID get all the animal roles. Lord!!
had us in the first half ain’t gonna lie! You’re 100% right tho
One time she got a lead in a group dance to play the Bully. But Holly said how wrong it was coz she's the black girl so Abby gave it to someone else and completely gaslighted Holly
Not really nia feet were extremely off and she was jot even close to the best dancer so she did not get solos for a reason but giving her these idiotic and racist roles was extremely annoying
@Loren French they didn't say anything wrong. Yes we love nia nd Stan her but honestly she wasn't strong technically at all
when abby made the "I dont want any little tooties" that was honestly it for me. Nia and Chloe were always my favs as a child watching the show and it was honestly painfull to watch how they were treated. gross! Love your videos keep it up pls, you are amazing and I love your voice sm
Sophia Lucia was the peak for me. It was so intense seeing someone out dance Maddie and really made her realize she had a lot more to learn.
Let’s not forget when Abby physically THREW a chair at Paige oh my god when I saw that was terrified
she threw it next to paige but they made it look like she threw it AT her for drama
moni victoria oh ok thx for the information
moni victoria wait throwing it next to her changes the fact that it’s fucked up and scary
@@moni-vb3rw That's not better. You realize that's not better, right? You shouldn't be throwing shit at or near LITERAL CHILDREN.
supersam4ever08 i never said it was better gosh
Abby emotionally abused all of those kids. I said what I said.
Including the “favorites”. wayyyy too much pressure was put onto their shoulders. Maddie was having panic attacks when she was NINE. no kid should be afraid of their AFTER SCHOOL ACTIVITY
I'd say Chloe was the most abused Abby had some kind of issues surrounding Chloe to the point where I don't even know if it was just Christi who Abby was mad at
u say that as if that isnt already obviously
I agree that what happened was bad but you can’t blame Abby 100% Producers control what the people say and it’s reality TV so a lot of it is faked
Seeing Amanda get heated over a show I’ve also dedicated 5 years of my life to is exactly what I needed today
I always feel like everyone thinks that Maddie was treated perfectly. Of course, she wasn't treated like trash, but the amonut of pressure Abby and Melissa put on her was INSANE. Plus we cannot forget that Abby kept saying that her friends don't care about her and that she should care only about winning and skip school in order to dance
Omg yes ! I am a dance teacher and I think about this all the time :(( its disturbing
Let's remember that Abby admitted in the latest season that she purposely sabotaged Chloe. She said "I never wanted Chloe to win but she won all the time". Lifetime also edited out tons of her wins to paint her as the underdog
46:50 Doctor Holly was the best mom on the show, every single time that Holly was arguing with Abby, Holly was ALWAYS right it was crazy. Abby just didn’t want to see Nia dance so every chance she got, she would take the dance away from poor Nia. Holly was the most mature person on that show, every time she would say something to somebody, she makes them look like an IDIOT. Abby knew Holly was smarter than her and was just jealous
i think most people are smarter than abby lmaoo but ur so right she was intimidated by Dr. Holly. she and Nia deserved so ,,, SO much better
Rightt! Holly had to have been the most level-headed mom on the show. Every other mom who had an argument with Abby I would think, "Okay they doing a bit too much". Never with Holly though.
holly was a simple queen.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the fact Abby LITERALLY said during pyramids when Kalani and Nia did the traditional African dance that Kalani looked more African then Nia did during the Dance 🤨🤨🤨
JoJo is still nice to Abby after she treated her like garbage and went to go visit her in the hospital when she was battling cancer. If that doesnt show what a class act JoJo is, I don’t know what is.
I definitely don’t blame the majority of the girls who don’t talk to Abby. They experienced so much mistreatment from her that had a lasting effect on their mental health and passion for dance.
Jojo went because she wasnt even treated half as bad as the girls.
Also apparently Nia and Holly wanted to visit, but Abby didn’t let them.
But yeah, I will never understand how JoJo could ever visit her.
Jojo went, filmed it, making sure that EVERYONE sees how "forgiving' she is. I see no sincerity in this move
@@imane111 thank you
@@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa7638Abby only let her bc she had money now
Jill is clearly racist.
I mean everyone knows Abby is racist but we don’t usually see people pointing Jill out.
she follows trump on twitter i’m pretty sure
alex ツ she does. IIRC, Jill is a lowkey Trump supporter.
Ana Azevedo In a later season the moms were discussing race and Jill literally said “I thought racism wasn’t allowed anymore” I couldn’t believe those words came out of her mouth, but Holly read her as she should.
@@rebekahlynne0227 I remember that! Cause they really didn't understand and I can tell Holly was irritated.
The disrespect Abby showed towards Holly, Nia, and an entire race whenever she spoke about Nia's hair shouldn't be allowed on television or in life in general. Period.
Hazel Jade No girl it deserved to be there so everybody could know the true Abby.
AGREED. The thing she said about Camryns feet made me sick. She also indirectly called nia fat and did nothing but stereotype her. NOTHING about this show is acceptable. I grew to love the cast and watching them grow up and see them improve. That would have been fine. They are traumatizing these kids for life.
Hazel Jade especially when she gave Nia stereotypical black girl solos (Bye Felicia and another one), expecting her to fail.
Hazel Jade I would not be surprised if Abby said the n word
ALSO Abby is literally projecting YEARS of frustration on Paige and Brooke. they knew each other since they were kids. I think they even said something about kelly stealing Abby’s boyfriend like 20+ years ago
Some people think that Abby grew more mad towards Kelly not only because she quit but because the guy she liked dated Kelly idk if this is right but I read it somewhere
Abby admitted in season 8 i think that chloe was better dancer, She even admitted that sabotaged her routine and still she won, and abby always ruined the girls confidence except maddie's. And I think the show really ruined them, to the most of them, Paige, Brooke, Nia, Brynn, Chloe...none of them danced again
Nia and Brynn still take classes!
Brooke posted a tiktok of her flipping off the ALDC as she drove by it with the lyrics "I sold my soul the devil for designer..." playing in the background with the caption "no comment." TEA
heather stewart i love that haha
Also the one of a Facebook friend suggestion “Abby Lee Miller” with the caption “Facebook: figure it out”
WafflesRMyBestFriend and jojo commented on it
Damn Brooke's still a baddie!
😮😮😮
we all know why nia got paid dust. let's remember how camryn was one of the BEST dancers and /performers/ that company had ever seen and she got jack shit credit for it. that winning number she did that never got aired? those irreplaceables numbers? camryn ATE, spat out, MURDERED those numbers
survivor??? are we KIDDING?????
Aria Glass Camryn was the best in Survivor PERIOD. She is literally was one of the best and they treated her like a LOSER like??? Give her good choreography and she could honestly compete with Kalani
Aria Glass FACTS. SHE’S STILL ONE OF THE MOST UNDERRATED GIRLS TO STEP FOOT ON THAT SHOW. She was the definition of an all-rounder. She had more of a grounded presence that no other girl possessed ... She even started at 9, which is way later than all the others, and was still to THAT level!! She was so damn good at portraying characters and she never missed a beat in the music. She could glide through the melody while still keeping pace. Kira always largely ignored or shaded her cause she knew how genuinely good she was and how much of a threat she was to her daughter, despite not being trained at the highest-level studio in the country. Her and Kalani outdanced and outshined every other girl in The Last Dance by a mile. Breaking Free is still one of my favorite solos ever done on the show, and Endangered Species should’ve beaten Getting Away With Murder. I said what I said.
Giiiirrllll CAMRYN NEEDS HER OWN VIDEO! The way Camryn came through and woke the girls up, had them SHOOKETH, especially that damn Kira. Kira was extremely confident in Kalanis talent knowing she was the best dancer that ever stepped foot onto that team( aside from Sophia Lucia) , but when Camryn Bridges came through with this urban swag snatching ALL wigs and edges Kira started hating. Camryn was stepping on necks and if she would have got one more season in , our good sis would be booked and busy!
Have you seen the video camryn posted talking about her time on dance moms? It’s on her channel. So good. Love her.
them calling her "black patsy" always sits wrong with me
That was the name she had her jacket, and when they asked why she called herself that, I believe she said her mom gave her that nickname. I think it was supposed to be a joke, like “oh crazy stage mom”, but it didn’t come from them.
@@amariahlovelace5113 it still feels wrong
sup people it mean it was her choice. Some of the moms even pointed out how weird it was when she first talked about it.
Didn’t she _ask_ them to call her that?
@@CYBER_N0T yes but still makes me uncomfortable
I watched Dance Moms OBSESSIVELY for years. And after season 7, I did a lot of research into the production of the show bc of its cultural impact. I can say without a doubt that this show has some of the most edited and manufactured plot lines I’ve ever seen from a reality tv show. It’s honestly astonishing and impressive. Fake competitions, producers picking choreography AND music, audio picked from separate episodes/encounters and placed into fights to change the tone, the list goes on.
Also the fact that Abby was literally racist towards nia and later Camryn since DAY ONE is just plain disgusting.
What did she do to camryn??
cutiepie61000 Holly is hands down my favorite mom. She’s a class act and was a warrior for those kids. She also was powerful with her words and non insulting! Holly FTW!