61. The Dyatlov Pass Incident Part 1 -- Baby, It's Cold Outside

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  • @finessethaprofit7325
    @finessethaprofit7325 3 роки тому +6

    This podcast is such a hidden gem

  • @CenkZappa
    @CenkZappa 3 роки тому +13

    I have a friend/old roommate who is an aeronautical engineer who builds drones for the govt. He spent about a week going over this case. He concluded that the group was killed by a specific type of nuclear missile that detonates in the air killing everything on the ground below. Apparently the internal injuries were the giveaway. It would also explain why they ran for the tree line along with a few other bizarre details in this case. However he did not know how/why the investigators did not find shrapnel. Unless the investigators decided to ignore it. He actually narrowed down the missile to specific type the Soviet Union produced in 1962. However this case took place in 1959. He told me he thought the missile was in it's early stages of development and could have taken 3 more years before the missile was produced for the military. In other words this was the testing area for this missile OR more likely, the missile went off course and ended up in this area. If so it would definitely need another 3 years before the military could use it & investigators inside the Soviet Union would definitely cover it up. I do not know enough about nuclear missiles (lol) to have any idea if his theory made any sense. But the Cuban missile crisis took place in 1962 so they were obviously working on this stuff in 1959. I'm going to get in contact with him and ask if he still thinks this particular missile could have been the culprit.

  • @markasdead
    @markasdead 3 роки тому +12

    I have heard this story many, many times before but your re-telling here makes it sound fresh! I especially like your brief profiles of the victims. My biggest chill was upon hearing about the one-word diary entry on "Rempel". Rempel warned them about the dangerous natural conditions of the area, but why would they write his name days later?!

    • @polkadots716
      @polkadots716 3 роки тому +5

      I've heard numerous accounts of the incident, but there were so many new details in this podcast. I really look forward to hearing Brett and Alice's theory on what happened. Tbh, I expected the one-word diary entry to be "yeti." Perhaps Rempel was a yeti in disguise.

  • @ligiak4270
    @ligiak4270 3 роки тому +5

    So glad you guys are covering this with great detail...greetings from the 🇬🇧

  • @juliannejasper3875
    @juliannejasper3875 3 роки тому +8

    This one is a fave of mine!

  • @limbuprakash7986
    @limbuprakash7986 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome podcast,I’m so excited to watch al episode.Very interesting n thank you for this pice of gold.

  • @Korrieification
    @Korrieification 3 роки тому +7

    I’m SO happy that you’re doing a deep dive on this one! Like you, Brett, I’ve been perplexed for years about this. I’m usually a complete Occam’s Razor nerd when it comes to so-called weird and spooky, and I love it that you start with that first - because this is such a strange one. Thank you both for setting the timeline and I can’t wait for the subsequent podcasts - I reckon you have to do at least 18 of them - only kidding! Keep up the good work, best wishes, Tracey 👍😃

  • @becky4642
    @becky4642 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for covering this. It has always been a true mystery.

  • @brenmanock
    @brenmanock Рік тому +1

    Camping and hiking in freezing temps. What could possibly go wrong?

  • @inquiringmind2852
    @inquiringmind2852 3 роки тому +1

    Brett & Alice, this series is another hit out of the ballpark! Fascinating. I've never heard about this case.

  • @fra2199
    @fra2199 3 роки тому +2

    Hi guys! I binged on all your episodes over Christmas and you’ve been my favs since. Keep up the excellent work! You have a super fan in Italy 🇮🇹 (North West, by the Alps!). Un abbraccio a entrambi 😊

  • @skzombierain7536
    @skzombierain7536 Рік тому

    You guys really do your research! Definitely the GOLD STANDARD for 'The Dytlov Pass Incident' on UA-cam. Shocking you don't have more subs O.O

  • @nottthereyet4872
    @nottthereyet4872 3 роки тому +6

    Thank you. I was just starting a replay on an old broadcast for the 3rd time.
    Never be too quick to dismiss alternate visitors. 👀

  • @BeesWaxMinder
    @BeesWaxMinder 2 роки тому +1

    This offered a whole new perspective for me thank you
    It’s so weird when you think about it that if you wanted to find out what happened in a situation like this is then, almost uniquely, everything is provided!
    Do you want some members going & one who didn’t so you can compare how accurate reports are?
    you’ve got it!
    Do you want some photographs?
    you’ve got ‘em!
    want a diary to be kept?
    You’ve got it!
    Do you want multiple diaries for different points of view and perspectives before and during the exhibition?
    You’ve got ‘em!
    Do you want official documents as well as Hear’Say?
    You’ve got it!
    Do you want a separate team on a parallel expedition in the same sort of area?
    You’ve got that too!
    Do you want the teams to compare notes and meet up beforehand?
    You’ve got it!
    Seems we’ve got everything except for THE answer?!?

  • @barbarakeys6681
    @barbarakeys6681 3 роки тому +1

    I am so excited for this! It is one of my favorite. I am looking forward to hear your take on everything.

  • @pcsnow1
    @pcsnow1 3 роки тому +1

    Love, love your coverage of this mystery!

  • @Jelbel1111
    @Jelbel1111 3 роки тому +10

    If it had been an avalanche, wouldn't their bodies have more external injuries? I'll keep an open mind but for now, I'm putting my money on a radioactive Yeti...

  • @bedtimeclub
    @bedtimeclub 3 роки тому

    Hi Brett & Alice - sitting here at work at the hospital in Hobart at 12.50am...
    You guys get me through!! Big thanks :)

  • @bunnifer23
    @bunnifer23 3 роки тому +7

    I’ve heard of this case before but not looked into the details. I’m looking forward to hearing what you think. My only worry is that I will forget who is who by next week. A third of the people are named Yuri!

  • @nenia6644
    @nenia6644 3 роки тому +4

    So happy you are covering this! This is a mystery I always come back to and I've been interested in this for many years now. I read all the books you mentioned, however I think the best book on the matter is by Alexej Rakitin. I am just not sure if it is available in English yet. It is originally in Russian but has been published in German in 2018 as "Die Toten vom Djatlow-Pass. Can't wait to hear your take on this.

    • @maxmustardman298
      @maxmustardman298 3 роки тому +2

      no its not available in English, yet, and according to the the publisher randomhouse a translation is not planned as of now. Truly a shame, I think it patches up most of the holes in the story, even more so than Svetlana Oss's book.

  • @jessieclutton5115
    @jessieclutton5115 3 роки тому +3

    aside from all the theories the thing I find most odd is if they were able to have a knife to hand to cut a hole in the back of the tent to get out then surely it would have been equally as easy to have cut the toggles off the closure to the tent to get out, thus possibly grabbing boots as they left

  • @jerrymarbury9365
    @jerrymarbury9365 Рік тому +1

    The bears defend themselves against the Russians with hammers , Yuri just took it from the bear.

  • @daremcadams1868
    @daremcadams1868 3 роки тому +4

    Avalanche its as simple as that...very sad.....looked like happy poeple having the time of their lives...May their souls rest in Peace♥️

  • @TNcatlover33
    @TNcatlover33 3 роки тому

    I’m so excited! This is one of my faves too Brett! I have 4! This, vallisca axe murders, keddie cabin, and Delphi ! Can’t wait for this

  • @michelleshafto4141
    @michelleshafto4141 3 роки тому

    another intriguing story from Brett and Alice. love it you guys. I feel like I should listen to each one 3 times to make sure I don't miss anything.
    it seems pretty hard to explain.
    on another note, I have a request for another case. Yves Goddard and his family. there seems to be only one podcast in english, all the rest are in French. that's another pretty intriguing case though.

  • @cyndianne4321
    @cyndianne4321 3 роки тому

    I have never heard this tale of Dyatlov Pass and I am spellbound!
    I discovered you all a couple weeks ago and it was PODLOVE at FIRST SITE! Love your Prosecutors spin and insight, Brett and Alice. Have been binge listening thru your episodes! I got to the end of Dyatlov Pass and realized I am binged out! Must W.A.I.T. for Part 2...nooooooo! 🤣😂
    PS Doesn't feel like an avalanche to me but other than that...🤔🤔🤔?!?!

  • @VictoriaGirlBC
    @VictoriaGirlBC 8 місяців тому

    I am also fascinated by the Dyatlov Pass mystery. Gray Hughes did a fantastic 4 part video on this with Stacy Galloway who is an expert on this incident. ❤ your show!! 🔥🔥🇨🇦

  • @EvaStrikerZero
    @EvaStrikerZero 3 роки тому

    Y’all talking about Snek and Doge and pwnd and stuff. XD
    I love your podcast. Got hooked on you from your Maura playlist cause your personalities are just so interesting!

  • @brentclark7374
    @brentclark7374 3 роки тому +1

    With the tree branches...best explanation I have seen is that maybe they got lost/disoriented from their camp and trying to climb the tree to see the way back. Not sure that really even explains everything but best thing I've seen.

    • @brentclark7374
      @brentclark7374 3 роки тому +1

      AFAIK there were two flashlights found I think, one '
      off' (and still functioning) and one 'on' and dead?

    • @brentclark7374
      @brentclark7374 3 роки тому +1

      As an explanation for what they might have been trying to look for up the tree.

  • @lucianas4919
    @lucianas4919 3 роки тому

    Hey guys! Do you ever take case recommendations?

    • @ProsecutorsPodcast
      @ProsecutorsPodcast  3 роки тому +1

      Of course!

    • @lucianas4919
      @lucianas4919 3 роки тому

      I recommend the missing persons case of Corrine Erstad. She vanished in June 92’ from Inver Grove Heights MN. Very interesting and frustrating case.

  • @gingermiller4046
    @gingermiller4046 3 роки тому +3

    Nonsense. There was absolutely no evidence of an avalanche found by searchers. Everyone should ask themselves one question. Would you camp on an exposed ridge when the forest was only a mile away? As for falling into the ravine? Could a person receive a flail chest from a fall of only a few meters and have NO other external injuries? Anyone interested in this case should read the new book "1079". Written by the creator of Dyatlov Pass website and she and her co-writer have hundreds of documents to back up their theory. Most books on this subject have zero supporting evidence. "1079" has large amounts of evidence and considerable proof that the incident was covered up. I won't give away what is actually in the book. Read it and see what you think. Available at Amazon and there is also a lot about the book on the Dyatlov Pass website. Well worth the time and money.

  • @glamvan1670
    @glamvan1670 3 роки тому

    Hello again..❤ your show

  • @aleshabarnett1
    @aleshabarnett1 3 роки тому +1

    I have enjoyed this podcast immensely. I would love to see your thoughts on the Gannon Stauch case. The step monster accused of his horrendous murder has chosen to represent herself. It’s a very interesting case and would love to see your thoughts on it.

  • @RustCole01
    @RustCole01 3 роки тому +1

    Lotta weird anomalies in this case. Here's the part I'm not buying.... 9 people sleeping in one tent!! No sale.
    Also, I could imagine someone biting off their own tongue in an avalanche. As far as I know, they only said that the woman's tongue was cut off, not that she was given a Columbian Necktie. People have bit off a decent chunk of their tongues in things like car accidents or other high speed impact situations. Just a thought...

  • @CocoFirenze
    @CocoFirenze 3 роки тому +1

    Your pod is terrific! I love to hear your take on cases esp when you two get talking legal. I've formed my opinion about this case after reading Dead Mountain but its compelling for everything you talked about. Mostly I just think about how damn COLD it was in Russia, in the Winter, with no high tech outerwear #socold

  • @RustCole01
    @RustCole01 3 роки тому +1

    There's so many problems when trying to evaluate cases this old. On the one hand, the flow of information is so controlled. This allows for authority figures to dictate what the public knows and allows them to withhold relevant details. On the other hand, there is far less bad information to sift thru. The information age is such a paradox. We have access to unlimited information but that can sometimes be worse than having access to limited information.
    I always use "The Nayirah Testimony" as an example. In the early 90's, just prior to the early days of dial-up internet, a young Kuwaiti girl who simply went by "Nayirah", gave a chilling testimony in front of the US Senate/Congress. This was in 1990 and this girl gave a sobbing statement that was broadcast and rebroadcast on every major news channel, all over the United States and it was pretty much used to gain public support for the Gulf War.
    This entire narrative was accepted as fact and was a popular talking point for Operation Desert Shield, which basically just involved the US military protecting Kuwaiti oil fields. It wasn't until 1992 that reporting began to expose the truth. The girl was not a nurse, nor did she even live in Kuwait. She was the daughter of a wealthy Kuwaiti ambassador who was a big player in the oil trade.
    Point is, inaccurate information is a problem but intentional misinformation makes things even more complicated. The fact that this Dyatlov Pass incident took place in Russia just further complicates things. Especially since very few of us speak Russian. I have seen several posts that have mentioned the fact that, it is incredibly difficult to get an accurate and direct translation from Russian to English. People have tried translating some popular book that was written about this case, which was published in Russian and apparently, it made for an incredibly difficult read.

  • @rosierosie62
    @rosierosie62 3 роки тому +1

    January 30th is St Alexander Day, the saint he was named after. A lot of Russians celebrate their patron saint's day like a birthday.
    EDIT. Okay, I have to admit that the site I got this info from named roman catholic saints not russian orthodox ones. So, my info is not 100%. Just thought I add this as I do not want to spread any misinformation.

  • @darlenevoigt1457
    @darlenevoigt1457 3 роки тому +2

    8 men 2 women in top physical shape. And well educated. What could possibly make them flee the tent? I think the avalanche theory is not the cause. Explain the injuries, why there was separation, why two climbed the tree. I would try and climb a tree to get away from a predator, not that I could escape especially not having a weapon.

  • @BeesWaxMinder
    @BeesWaxMinder 2 роки тому

    Very interesting
    Thanks
    It’s worth noting that, in early 1950s Russia there quite literally would be no such thing as a teenager yet!
    By that I mean these people would’ve considered themselves and being considered by others as ADULTS for some years When they undertook this arduous task

  • @sharonneely9326
    @sharonneely9326 3 роки тому

    So I'm loving the extra information your giving. Maybe they were deliberately killed. You said radioactive is it possible it messed with there thinking? I haven t heard the rest yet.

  • @WarRocketAjax
    @WarRocketAjax 3 роки тому

    Nice to see the same level of criticality brought to this subject- this is something that has been lacking in the majority of the coverage of this event which tends to look on the subject through a purely paranormal lens.

  • @julieselden7932
    @julieselden7932 2 роки тому

    So these people were friends, and you are worried that in November they will realize that Alex's birthday was celebrated in the wrong month? If they were close friends they would have remembered celebrating it less than 3 months before wouldn't they? I would think that those that knew him, already knew it wasn't really his birthday and wonder why they went along with that?

  • @HamCubes
    @HamCubes 3 роки тому

    I began listening to part one last night because I couldn't sleep. I am a big 'fraidy cat, but the preliminary details seemed more like a mystery or puzzle so I figured I could handle it. Did I ever misjudge!
    The image of the orderly exodus in single file is so creepy to me, as is the skin on the tree bark, and the fire being put out. Lyudmila's injuries are absolutely horrifying! The meaning of taking the eyes & tongue is clear, plus having her face turned down. Terrifying!
    I initially wondered if Aleksander Sergeivich Kolevatov's "device" used plutonium, which is pyrophoric meaning it can spontaneously ignite in contact with oxygen, and the crisis that caused the exodus was a spontaneous plutonium fire. Usually pyrophoric materials are stored in oil, but depending on its blend, mineral oil may begin to solidify at ~-4*C
    Those inside the tent would know that inhaling plutonium is extremely dangerous and I could easily imagine them fleeing shoeless in order to escape the fumes. I can imagine that they would even want to remove whatever clothes they were wearing, but I can't see anyone go shoeless and/or sockless in those conditions. 🤔
    I can't wait for episode three!

  • @Girlytang
    @Girlytang 3 роки тому +1

    Very interested to hear your take. Interestingly, I recently read about how Disney “Frozen” animators helped a scientist develop a simulation to study this case. Their research supports the theory that an avalanche was the cause of this tragedy. Love your podcast! ❤️

  • @zenfan1098
    @zenfan1098 3 роки тому +1

    The Blair Witch, thats all i can think of what happened😬😱😢

  • @nu6294
    @nu6294 3 роки тому

    What if there was a toxic chemical accidently released in the tent.

    • @nu6294
      @nu6294 3 роки тому

      @@brentclark7374 I guess I won't comment ever again. You said one of the people was doing experiments so I wondered if he may have had chemicals with him. I think you are stupid and unkind for being so rude. You don't have to agree, but being rude is not necessary. Why are you better than anyone else?

    • @nu6294
      @nu6294 3 роки тому

      @@brentclark7374 Look, I am not a lawyer. I was listening to your podcast and you said that one of them did experiments and it dawned on me that perhaps he had chemicals with him and something got released. I did not mean to upset you or trigger you to call me out. It was just an idea that came to me. So, there are folks who think it is aliens?? :) Not me.

  • @brandonb1681
    @brandonb1681 3 роки тому

    I'm trying to come to terms with three Yuri's. Yuri must be a popular Russian name.

    • @ramblingronniespodcast
      @ramblingronniespodcast 3 роки тому +1

      I work in a small school in Canada and there are like 10 Lisa's in that one building alone, there are popular names in all places☺️

  • @stephaniestanford2887
    @stephaniestanford2887 3 роки тому +1

    LIVERMORTIS!!!! I thought it was rigerMORTIS girrrl?!!!
    (Any fans of Rupauls’s drag race AND the Prosecutors...? No crossover fans... just me... okay ... it’s okay)

    • @jamesmcbeth4463
      @jamesmcbeth4463 2 роки тому

      It's livor mortis, when the heart stops and the blood no longer circulates, the blood pools in the lower parts of the body causing discoloration.

  • @johnmuloch8545
    @johnmuloch8545 3 місяці тому

    The yeti did it

  • @zenfan1098
    @zenfan1098 3 роки тому

    ❤️👍❤️👍❤️👍

  • @louises.9802
    @louises.9802 3 роки тому

    🦉

  • @rinwesley3092
    @rinwesley3092 3 роки тому

    This case has always fascinated me. Frankly, I've always been drawn to the carbon monoxide poisoning hypothesis.
    My godsister's mother died from CO poisoning. The family was very poor and lived in a slum without proper heating. During cold months, they would turn on the oven, open the oven door and let it heat the apartment. Apparently this was common for them to do while they slept during the night, and one of those nights the mom woke up suddenly and tore through the house, ripping at her clothes and skin screaming that she was burning up. She dove into the bathtub and ran cold water over herself, hoping to alleviate the burning sensation, but sadly she died within minutes.
    At least that's how I heard it from my god-sister, who was about eleven at the time (wow, I seem to have these harrowing tales about eleven year olds). I didn't even know you could get CO poisoning that way, and I certainly didn't know one could react so violently. I always thought you'd go unconscious and just pass away.

  • @hartfeltopinion6178
    @hartfeltopinion6178 3 роки тому

    Lol ... Alice ! Waxing and waning POETIC 😂💀. Not POETRY.

  • @marynelson7995
    @marynelson7995 3 роки тому

    🦉