Focus: Women made to keep low profile in some French suburbs
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Here in France, there's concern over a creeping gender segregation in certain suburbs. In some cafés, which are frequented only by men, women are simply not welcome. But activists are determined to fight back and make sure everyone can share the public space. This report was recently broadcast by our colleagues at France 2 and has been sparking conversations ever since.
A programme prepared by Patrick Lovett, Jessica Sestilli and Elom Marcel Toble.
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Why do people flee to a better country only to try to turn their new home into the messed up dysfunctional mess they left?
And then they complain when their religious practices get questioned, so hypocritical.
They only want the better economy. They still want to profit off enslaving their women though.
Welfare
I completely agree.... but they don’t see it that way.
I ask myself that about the Californians who move to Texas all the time.
“Here we do things like in our home country” oh, you mean the home country you “fled” from?
@@mystuff1405 very sad but unless they drop the political correctness garbage it's the truth.
i think you missunderstand why the majority of people leave their home countries.
@@AB-tf8rc specialy those old jeweled up grannies.
I know, this is bizarre, I can't understand why they flee from a country then they want to be like the people they fled from! They can have their own private member's clubs/bars but if it's a public place on the street, then it's not acceptable
They are in Europe for the money
It's kinda crazy to see elderly, indigenous French women having to March in packs to feel safe visiting the cafés in squares they probably roamed freely as children
Indigenous French women? L o l
boohoohoo
@@JSB-2Z-2K what you mean by boohoohoo? Guess I found the freak. I hope one day you will have to go around in packs so you will feel safe just to go to a coffee shop
@@JSB-2Z-2K
Your a nazi
They dont look indigenous to me
The slow creep of Islam across the west. I find this this very disturbing.
Everyone sees that, except apparently politicians. Mmm 🤔🤔, could there possibly be some secret goal we know nothing about ??
@Staci Le harve Oui, Staci, - Yes; you are completely correct in this. In a few countries they already realise at which point, not so far in the future, when Muslims will even be in the majority, which is truly frightening. It'll take them some time after that to organise themselves and completely take over, but for our children and grandchildren, goodness knows what awaits them.
@@MrGregHiller this is the oldest war.
Muslims vs catholics.
@@pak3ton I don't see that at all. Every other religion can live in harmony with other different religions, except Islam. It must be a tragedy for those reasonable Muslims who just want to have a nice life.
@@MrGregHiller can live in harmony in this time.
But back then in the crusades time, in the inquisition time, remember the times when if you say: the hearth move around the sun..... youll ended in jail bacause the bible said the hearth was the COW (center of universe)
And is basically the religion live in harmony because the people get smarter and stop believing in gods.
In other times if you was an atheists you were in jail or dead.
The real problem is the religion itself no only Muslims.
Even the christian bible talk about killing "unfaithful"
And muslime almost the same religion as
Jews and christians.
The difference is:
Muslims believe mohamed and jesus was prophets. And thats why they dont accepts jesus as son pf god.
And cristians thinks jesus is the god son and who died and revived at 3rd day.
And jews you know they killed jesus for say him was the god son.
Those 3 religions have been fighting for thousands years.
Saying they are the true religion of god.
But one thing those 3 religions have in common is how they trate women :v
Just see how Muslims behave or read this nice biblical passage:
1 Timothy 2-12
I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent.
Thank god im atheist.
This is pitiful. How are you going to go to somebody else’s country and exclude them from their own public spaces?
What???
This is sad and the real reason why it’s so much phobia of Arabs. They aren’t all like the men in the video. But this video is the reason people aren’t excepting of other cultures in their countries. Sad this few bunch makes it look bad
artsylovelylady mr6johnclark Most of them are not refugees actually they are Algerians, Moroccans and Tunisians whose grandparents came to France during the time those three Maghrebians countries were colonised by France
As a Muslim, I agree. This is insane. I don't understand how are they able to do this. If they want to be surrounded by men, send them to jail.
That is open borders for you!
Not "men", but "muslim men". The bias and "political correctness" of those reporters is incredible. She is part and active complice of the problem is speaking of.
To be fair, not really. The fact they actually mention Islam and muslims is quite extraordinary already, when compared to most videos or articles made on the matter.
@@ComeToTheFeastOfWar That was to what I was referring. It would to be normal to mention it but usually happens the contrary. It's incredible how now they refer to muslims as asians... with coreans, japaneses, chineses, etc....
@@rafaelalba4582 Yeah but this video does the opposite. Those reporters are NOT being particularly PC, so your comment doesn't really apply to this video at all since they do mention religion being a problem and even point out how some Muslims object to these women. I think the reporters here are doing a valuable job and are not part of the problem at all, since they are actually willing to look into this issue and admit that it's got to do with the Islamic religion and culture.
But unfortunately, most news articles don't have the guts to do the same, that's for sure.
@Salt & Pepper What the f* are you speaking about?. Don't be a troll. How what you say relates to anything of the topic or the conversation?.
@Salt & Pepper nice try little troll
As a French person, I guarantee you that this is happening more and more. Forget about “Emilie’s in Paris” series.
Oh no really this is awful 😢
@Boop CAN ANYONE TRANSLATE THAT SINCE I CANT CUT AND PASTE IT?
We must preserve European identity and start voting more hard-line parties.
In 10-20 years time it will be too late! I travel to France a lot and I am absolutely in love with the country and people, so I would like to travel there in future to see France with its great traditions and way of life, culture and not some melting pot amorphous society.
Be brave to say yes I am French, I am White, I am Christian!
VIVE LE FRANCE!!!
Mohammed in Paris
@@ryanmoorhead5180 😂👏
"Something is missing from the picture"
Yeah. French people.
These are French people. There are minorities in France.
@@sagewaifu3272 wow this really did hurt. Pls just imagine being a person with immigration background, who adapted (or fully integrated) himself/herself to a western country (sharing same morals and liberal views) and even being shunned because of that, by family and friends... The west still doesn't accept you. That would feel like, you belong nowhere.
Ps: I apologize for my poor grammer🙏🏽🌼
Well they are French, born and raised in France. You don't find this species in North Africa anymore, it's like they're stuck in time.
@@sydneyw4282 They don't think they are French. They hold no pride in a nation they consider foreign, they think French law doesn't apply to them. If they really are citizens they should start acting like it.
@@goldi1018 Anyone who takes the time to get assimilated should earn full respect. I know people who have moved into my country and learned the language completely in two years. And I'm sure many Muslim refugees have tried (and succeeded) to get integrated, those people deserve respect. The problem is a big portion of them aren't even trying. Only thing they're trying is to turn Europe into Middle East.
"We do things like in our home countries..."
How about go home?
Enza , you're a low iq fool.
Hahahahahahha
@@AB-tf8rc Maybe in your Muslim world, women are low level because you have forced them to be low level. In all other religious communities, women are treated special because she has far more worth than one following Islam.
To put it in polite French "FOck off" to your perfect home country and never come back....
@@AB-tf8rc You are like a child. Mentality of a baby.
It’s not “men” doing this. It’s only men of a certain religious persuasion.
No not religion. But CULTURE.
@@ADT2000 Yeah, a religious culture.
@@ADT2000 Islamic culture. Let's not tap dance here
Ryan please I think it's terrible that you didn't have the courage to name islam. Your fear to point out is the equal part of the problem. Please grow a pair buddy.
@@ADT2000 which culture?
WTF did I just watch ? I’ve been living under a rock ! I can’t believe this is actually happening in France..... IS THIS FOR REAL ?🤬🤬🤬🤬
Yep welcome to Al Fransa or Francistan if you will.
I was in a hotel in paris a couple of years ago with my wife and kids at around 3am my wife woke me because someone was trying to get in our room,I had the key chain on so he couldn't get in but he opened the lock with a key, I rushed to the door and openned it outside my door was the male receptionist and 6 or 7 men standing in the hall, I started shouting asking him what was he doing and he just walked off, Then all the other men just went back into their room's, We left the room in the middle of the night and never went back, The receptionist gave us the key so he knew we were there and all of the men were Muslims
@@ryanmac2309 Why were they trying to get in your room? Do you think they were trying to rob you? Thank you for sharing this story, I can't imagine how scary that must have been.
It's only gonna get worse from here, this is what happens when you abandon your culture and values, westerners.
@@User-be4fx boohoohoo.
Poverty knows no religion. moron.
Why do they immigrate to France if they are perfectly happy with the status quo of their home countries?
Social security.
Possibility to extend their Oumma and colonize the "mécréants" while doing nothing if not procreating. That's it !
@Razvan feminism is a "stupid idea"? yikes
that's a naive question, they didn't immigrate to escape a cultural status quo, but crippling poverty.
the cultural elite, who might be comfortable with western society, have less reason to actually move.
@Razvan basic respect for the human being won't last? ok, see you in a millennium when you've outgrown your cultural fictions
I'm confused: why is the French government allowing this to happen in their country????
Because native French(Like the rest of the west) do not have kids anymore and the government still has hope their kids will integrate and will turn into productive tax payers for the welfare state.
If all your wealthy taxpayers flee your country and you are left a mob of people demanding more things from you it would be the same tale.
The government is in on this and purposely orchestrated it.
They waved their white flag again.
That's a complex matter to solve, read my previous message 😉😂
How would you stop it?
I would automatically think these cafes are gay hookup spots 👀
Samantha Mac They probably are
darling, no self respecting gay would be caught dead in those places looking like those "men"!
LeFat 😂😂😂 true
@@lefat4697 There are just as many gays in these communities as anyplace else in the world. They wouldn't be accepted in the posher, whites-only parts of Paris. They have it doubly bad because they are forced to live in these communities because of racial discsimination and by then forced to hide in them as gays. Can you imagine if these activists outed a gay meeting spot in this neighbourhood? That would be horrible. You won;tsee an end to this until France stops discsiminating against its ethnic minorities and starts opportunities that white French citizens have.
Your automatic thinking is incognizant of most of the history of world culture. Even in the historic West. Having a men's culture where can men can do their guy thing - talk politics, play games like chess and cards or whatever games exist locally, drink coffee or tea or whatever the local drinks are, and just converse - can protect women from male predatory behavior. That's the concept, and it undoubtedly has existed in various forms throughout world history almost everywhere in the world. That doesn't mean that what we are seeing here is not pathological. But having a male culture does not make the men's meeting place "gay hookup spots" as you suggest.
"what if you want to have coffee with your cousin and wife?"
"yes, she stays home"
Probably in a cage .
@@shaunw9270 the home is a prison and "men" like these are the prison guards
Bruh... 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@asscrap195 more like a sex house and they treat theme like a baby making machine
What do these men do all day !?! Seems they must sit in a cafe all day while their wives ,what ? Go to work or Collect welfare?
Collect welfare laying their monsters.
@@alexandrabernard755 give them a job.
Giving births
@@JSB-2Z-2K Nobody has to give you a job! You have to look for a job, companies, restaurants etc. are not obligated to offer you a job. In what world do you live?
@@JSB-2Z-2K Jobs are not given for free, one had to work hard to find job. Better they should start finding jobs for themselves
“We do things like we did in our home countries”...
And how has that worked out for you?
@@AB-tf8rc ofcourse woman bare men so, men are nothing without woman. Men are ours not the other way around.
@@AB-tf8rc you are stupid.
@@AB-tf8rc Yea, yea, we can see . They sell oil and that's it. No oil, back to stone age.
Enza Denino the segregation was there from the get go
@@AB-tf8rc
America destroyed muslim countries? When did that happen?
Of course, Americans did not destroy muslim countries. Islam destroyed muslim countries.
this is why regulated immigration is important. my dad is an immigrant and he always stressed that you have to assimilate into the culture your moving into as respect and survival.
steve sun smart man
Is more a matter of law enforcement. The right to stroll the street, no discrimination allowed etc...
@@dekipantelija
Not really when religion and culture cards can be played and when the state is being snake mouthed about what is going on in Europe.
Europe needs to end ALL Islamic immigration.
steve sun That doesn’t mean you throw away your culture! Does it? Maybe you never understood you dad!
I lived in a northern suburb of Paris as a single woman and have never been so terrified in my life. I was constantly followed, harassed, and grabbed by men. I heard many stories of women being raped on the train I had to ride every day, where I was pursued, touched and harassed every day too. I feared for my life. If I had to go out in the evening, which I tried to avoid at all costs, I would wear a hood completely covering my long hair and actually run as fast as I could to where I needed to go. I am so thankful to be back in Canada and to never have to live in a terrifying place like this again.
Please continue to tell your story to as many people who will listen as a lot of people don't want to believe this stuff happens .
You should scroll up to one or two threads before this that is very long where some people are in denial .... and tell your story there ... some of them need to hear it .
and also read and gather information like why this is happening, so many youtube channels are out there, telling you the truth..
I have never been in europe, but when I see it like this, I feel bad coz this is your home, why are you people running, fight it, this is your country, not theirs.. and if they want their poisonous culture, they can go back to their countries..
deport them asap.. all of them.. coz they won't mix up in your culture, they just want to overtake the system.
In the video, they themselves said that they do things as they do in their home countries.. so they don't believe in the nationality.. they believe in Islamic state.. which either they can create slowly, like they have been doing by reaching in more an more numbers in europe, or by ISIS or any other terrorist way..
understand it and see the truth and fight back, before it is too late..
Government's fault bringind these terro.rists to the West
Because as we all know, this is not coming to canada also
Im sorry they were raped on the train and no one helped them?!
It's crazy this is considered French in modern times. If only those who fought at the battle of Tours could see this now!
Charles Martel is rolling in his grave
@Trash UA-cam pussio
They would never have fought...
Whats the pint of a revolution if you're going to be suppressed by people you invited
@@klikitzsmith8416 fact.
Yes they are not French, the separation of men and women is not a French culture thing.
The separation of the individual is a part of the status quo. The French Government and the Rich want this. By separating not only men and women, but also by race and culture; you weaken individuals and thus break representation into weaker groups. The first signs of this were through the reduction of the middle class. When you remove a healthy economic class, you severely reduce their role in the economy and thus it is ruled by the state and the rich.
@@rixille shut up, this is a muslim thing, they are turning France to a middle age mentality, they should be pushed back to their country.
@@alfrredd Who do you think is bringing in these Muslims, who do you think is promoting policy to allow them to stay in France? You think the Muslims are single-handedly doing this all by themselves? It is obviously the French government. They are sponsoring this migration surge.
@@rixille That may be true but is the French government giving them strict orders on how to behave once here? How they behave once in France is entirely their own doing. I have lived in France for 47 yrs and I've seen changes, great changes. When I arrived, although there was an important Muslim presence for they had come over at the demand of the French government to help rebuild the country, I never saw any woman wearing a hijab let alone a niqab or a burqa or heard of areas where women were made to feel unwelcome, everyone got along. Over the years though, there most certainly has been a change, as if there were a sort of Islam revival of some communities, more and more women sporting the hijab even the tchador and women who've not just arrived but were born in France. Look to the mosques I say where certain imams are preaching hatred of the West and of our culture.
@@rixille And it was under Sarkozy that full-face veils were banned, no hijabs in the workplace or at school up until university level. Street praying is also banned in France. In the USA, I believe, Muslims can wear the niqab or even the burqa, as in other Western countries. France is a secular country and has been since 1905 and it's very deeply engrained in French society so France does not bow to Muslims as other Western countries seem to be doing, so give our government some credit please.
"They are fighting for womens rights.. in France"
Never thought I would hear those words.
You do know that women are only allowed to vote in France since 1945 after WW2 ended, right?
If I know anything about France, any "fight" that doesn't end with either a riot or guillotines in the street is a fight not getting desired results.
@@Chillerll you realize these are men from Muslim countries
So disappointing, as it is my dream to visit France. I had no idea this was happening.
@@JasmineDev It's not like this happens everywhere in France. You can still visit. I've visited almost every year since I was a baby (I'm from the Netherlands, so quite close) and it's a great country.
The Strange Death of Europe... except it’s not strange but deliberate.
more like suicide
Good Europe deserves it
*Diversity* is *good.* *Diversity* is our *strength.* *Diversity* is what makes europe so *peaceful!* The tiny hats did this on purpose.
It's Die-versity! The west is sacrificing itself on the altar of Political correctness.
@@yidy1 ok wow y'all are dramatic. You've got the chance to change them, do something
When you’re so progressive, you start progressing backwards
@Trash UA-cam you don’t understand- France tried being progressive by accepting migrants without filter, and the result has been ironically backwards.
You are so progressive that you make a loop.
I don’t understand the point in migrating to a western country if you’re not ready to adapt to western culture/values..🤦🏾♀️I feel sorry for those women
@Ak Am - Oh, you mean when the youth decided they didn’t want to live under a dictatorship?
Welfare
@Ak Am not really. The amount of people who participated in the uprising was relatively small compared to the total population. The rest were cold war conservatives.
Same here in the US: the hippies were a vocal, but small subculture. The rest of the boomers were red scare Mccarthyists.
@mr. majestic Yes, you`re very right!
Many of those women were liberals supporters of immigration, now they reap what they have sown
"Something is missing from the picture:" french people, actually.
Thanks Merkel, thanks Macron
Where are the French men ? Why are they not marching with the woman ?
@@rosaliamartinez8956 they are white, mostly heterosexual and have been told that women don't need them.
Indeed. French people are missing. 😐
@@rosaliamartinez8956 the french women voted for this.. you cant pick and choose when you want mens support.
Such "empowerment". Such "diversity". Such "improvement". Such "culture". Who's paying for this? Who's funding this?
EU union, the ones who created it
1:58 "Here we do things like in our home country!"
Well I guess this guy can't wait to go back home, then?
It's not the problem this people ,,do things like home" but there home is a completely diferent culture and they enforce those ideas on the natives. Sorry for bad English
"Something is missing from the picture, as if airbrushed out."
I initially thought they were going to say "French people."
Or "white people".
That too though.
Rasectos you’re right !!!!!!!
Rasectos You’re right!
Jason Voorheese they are arabs
I applaud these brave women. Do NOT give in, do not stop fighting! Without these women, France will be LOST.
I agree France is already lost. This is only going to get worse. Wait till they get suitcase nukes, then Revelation 6 will be a reality. It says one fourth of the world population will perish from the great sword. Read it for yourself.
It was probably liberal leftist woman who voted for liberal lefty's who let this filth in
You made your bed
Yeap, the french have women in front line!!! Pffff typical
And by the way, France is lost.
I'm pretty sure they have given up.
As a Canadian I find this so dissapointing and shocking I had no idea this was happening in France. Having your own religion is 100% acceptable but when it is causing any kind of oppression to people especially as a guest in another country its gone too far. If in a more conservative country I would need to cover up and respect the rules in a liberal country like France those rules of freedom need to be respected too. To be in anyones country is a privilege and maybe if you immigrate you need to really research the customs of the country you will be living in its very important. Just my two cents
Canada is not far behind.. Trudeau like leaders are too blind to see the future
Trudeau is importing thousands of Hamas supporters from Gaza into Canada.
Where are the two replies promised? Are asleep, UA-cam?
I bet if a goat walked into that bar these men would be fighting over it.
😂
@ANONYMOUSE PERSON That's a Muslim's wet dream.
lol..
"There aren't many Muslim women with us; they like the idea, but still don't join us."
"Why not?"
"[They don't want to die.]"
haha. i know women who would die for their coffee
@@rinzler9775 important business? Like what? R @ ping white women and marrying them for visas?
🤣🤣 the absolute truth! Love this comment. They are being Told to say that "they don't feel the need to go there". Anyone notice how the women in Arab countries support stoning, and decapitation? It's because they are FORCED to have that opinion, otherwise they are not considered Obedient and they die.
@@annanell8434 No, they support it because they're indoctrinated, but not all do.
France, Europe you better wake up.
They will never wake up coz the shits liberal ruled them.
Too late
Neo Monk : yes ! Must wake up!!!!!!
Im Happy
this is what they wanted.
On Twitter I am often rebuked for raising genuine non hateful thoughtful issues about Islam,by Westerners.
They abuse me saying Islam is a religion of peace
Now I hope Islam takes over Europe n do what these Sjw's wanted.
BLASPHEMY.RIOTS.CAVE MENTALITY.👍🏻
The pc culture is going to wipe out western culture.
This is what happens when you let people come in from less advanced cultures without making it clear they have to integrate & assimilate. Not all cultures are equal
@Trash UA-cam no it didn't. Not more advanced cultures (or even equally advanced ones)
I had that same experience when traveling in the outskirts of Hamburg, Germany.
@Trash UA-cam - Just go away! You’re disgusting!
This is France. Not Pakistan, Afghanistan or any other Islamic country. If you don’t like it move to another country.
While worldwide Sharia law is being forced on us with mask mandates, stay home orders, shutdowns of businesses all over a virus with a 99.98% survival rate. People are so damned brain washed by the media and "liberal arts" education aka Communist subversion. Just look at that "Obamacare law" they mandated everyone except Muslims purchase health insurance because insurance is considered gambling and goes against their religion. So basically non Muslims were forced to pay for the health care of Muslims
@@2380Shaw Do you have a source or proof of this ?
Native American said that hundred years ago, look what they have become?
Dont drag pakistan into this. We dont have gender segregated cafes in pakistan.
😂😂😂the New modern World
"Here we do things like in our home countries!"
Enough said... Their premise is clear.
Irony, that they run from their countries
It's their country now.
@@DartLuke Only because you want to bomb democracy into their countries. They never said they like the west for it's degenerate culture. And why do the strong independent western women want to be near men soo badly? Ironic isn't it? If a man was complaining on the news for not being able to frequent women shops and domains he'd be labelled a creep.
@@houdini5538 common. Many of them are not from Iraq, Afghanistan, Lybia, Syria
I am french and these people like to call their homeland "le bled" and each summer they are proud to come back to "bled" but just for the holyday, they couldnt stay for the rest of the year because the life is poor there, so they prefer to come in France earn a lot of money ( sometimes you don't need to work the state gives you money for social aid ) and they like to spend this money in the poor countries where the money here is weak so they are richer, sometimes they just have the french nationality but live to Algeria and continues to earn the money, we discover that people dead since 10 years keeps to earn this money.
Has anyone else noticed that if you politely suggest a certain someone goes back to a certain something, this media platform deletes your remark?
I was visiting in Paris in 2016 and got off on a train stop and was walking to my hostel, I kid you not, I walked for 10-15 min and only saw men in every store I asked for directions in and on the street. I thought it was random but now I see this video...
So glad these women are standing up. Take space, make noise!
@@lindai6988 then you must be blind and I'm assuming not in France.
You must not have watched the video
Laura Paas I'm not blind and I'm not in France. I live in the UK where luckily our Islamophobia haven't slipped into our legislation, yet. I don't consider people who migrate to another country invaders unless they plan to actually carry out an invasion which I see none of these people doing.
🅒🅞🅝🅝🅞🅡 I did
The one in the community are not unfortunately. It's this women activist groups that are.
There's a glaring detail left out here. Don't just say men, say what type of men dammit.
“Massive inbreeding among Muslims has been going on since their prophet allowed first-cousin marriages more than 50 generations (1,400 years) ago. For many Muslims, therefore, intermarriage is regarded as being part of their religion. In many Muslim communities, it is a source of social status to marry one's daughter or son to his or her cousin. Intermarriage also ensures that wealth is kept within the family. Islam’s strict authoritarianism plays a large role as well: keeping daughters and sons close gives families more power to control and decide their choices and lifestyles.
Westerners have a historical tradition of being ready to fight and die for their country. Muslims, on the other hand, are bound together less by patriotism, but mainly by family relations and religion. Intermarrying to protect the family and community from outside non-Islamic influence is much more important to Muslims living in a Western nation than integrating into that nation and supporting it.”
@@AB-tf8rc rofl. you do you dude i don't think women are missing out on much judging by your comments. I'll go live my own married happy life and you can go sit and brood about your hatred of half the population and see how happy it makes you
It's a bit obvious though, no?
vanessa benoit I think the EBZ just needs to get laid. Poor guy
@@AB-tf8rc Only a type of man like you would class a human being as a "bimbo". You must have a very sad soul.
"There aren't many muslim women with us, they like the idea but still dont join us"
"Why not?"
"I don't know, maybe, no I don't know"
She knows, we all know, even the feminist knows, but they would rather bury their heads in the sand.
@@carlgustafemilmannerheim5661 Nonsense, Islam is equal on both genders. If a man was on the news complaining he couldn't frequent women shops and domains he'd be labelled a creep. And I bet you wouldn't be saying it's oppressive for men.
@@houdini5538 Local cafes & bistros are not "men's domain." We're not talking about men's locker rooms; these are local shops that women are "encouraged" to stay out of. It's oppression pure and simple.
@@lemon1657 Those cafes are owned by those men and they have largely male customer who eat and hang out there. Women are free to buy from them but they're just stating the fact that women don't feel comfortable in places full of men which is true.
@@houdini5538 because the men don't make them feel welcome there
@@SnowdropDaisy it's best I refrain from "contributing" to this conversation, I just wanna commend you on your patience with this person, I couldn't do it
I respect their values but as an immigrant myself, when we move to another place one should also be respectful and adapt to their culture
Sooo glad to find an immigrant in the comment section. As the child of immigrants myself, the issue lies in certain aspects of certain traditions. I believe every culture is rich and has interesting sides to them. I believe integration and intercommunication can solve many problems faced in our society and that we have more in common than we think. The issue is a prominent misogynistic tradition brought along and carried on under the guise of tolerance. There’s nothing wrong with speaking your language, doing art, eating food, sharing customs from your home country, the issue is a gender-based discriminatory behaviour. I can only hope that there’s less hostility between people and we come to our senses.
@@JScott-md6dv gender-based discriminatory behaviour IS their culture and values? As is whipping women for things like using a mobile phone, wanting an education, not being 100% covered in cloth and more.
I do not respect their values, and you shouldnt either.
It's scary for France and for Europe. Honestly, this is too much.
The rich and the government want it, they can weaken society and the individual to exploit them with old morality that society had mainstream for so long. It is subversion through the breakdown of culture and identity. It enables the rich and powerful to operate strongly and not fear a strong and powerful class in society.
And this was two years ago!!!!!!!
Honestly, i will not visit france in my retirement trip.
everyone can you imagine what is now like😲😱😱😱😱😱
This is unbeliveable in the 2016/2017 in the middle of the Europe. You destroyed your country...
not the country...the continent , and perhaps the race as well.
Souvick Ch
Luckily not entire yet.
I support Sharia in Europe. Because western women deserve to be as oppressed as some of them already believe themselves to be.
Lol what? Sosua Pimp why did you delete your comment? I'm not Muslim and believe me I know more about Islam and hate it a lot more than you do. Your hatred of Islam is nothing compared to mine.
You stupid thug
French wanted to be "open minded" and "tolerant" and this is the outcome. I prefer to stay "racist".
This is the dumbest comment ive read this year
I dont know if you slow or something, but racism has led to the same situation shown in the video but towards blacks
@@brenetssss Apparently you're the slow one here.
It makes me crazy watching this as a French woman because nowadays its not only in the subburbs ... Its everywhere the same .. our government isnt even sending the criminals back to their own country... Yes we are scared now, but we will fight back.
Maybe you guys should vote for marine lepen to get a real change .
As an American, this is disgusting. I feel for you France. What a beautiful country of yours is turning into.
Yeah how is this legal in France?
Well its in sevran, the poorest and most dangerous city in france. It happens only in that city.
american men are almost like these muslims...
lulz....nice troll. you win the internet today!
meisjes are you stupid?
Something missing from the street....yes,the indigenous people.
Yes it is sad and disturbing .
Exactly
True:-{
What planet so you think this people originate from?
Yes, not too much diversity happening here...
Something is missing from the picture... Could it be French people?
This is that loving and tolerant religion I hear so much about.
"there aren't any muslim women with us i don't know why"
because they're afraid they'll get beaten into a pulp if they're seen with you. and she's too scared to say that to the reporter?
basically they have low self esteem that has been passed down from family to family
@@biggsleezy
You're an expert on this topic?
No, they wouldn't, you imbecile.
Would you like to pull some statistics on domestic violence rates among the natives of western Europe?
fukthegoog - but they want to live in a country that promotes equality and democracy eh !
Hypocrisy!!!!
This is true. One of my dad's immigrant colleagues was deported from Germany because he beat his wife. It was so bad she had to go to the hospital
Rejecting the only human carried you for 9 months "women" IS mind blowing.. WHERE THE HELL DOES THIS MAN COME FROM? 🤦♀️
Islam
From the pit of hell!
Hell
It's not a rejection it's a disgracing of women
@@yukisuperstylish Chinese, Arab, and African societies are based on merit. Only Western society is based on "being born female." There is no other civilization who values being born female above all levels of achievement. In fact, for a man to be celebrated as much as a 16 year old single mother, he has to own half of New York city or be the first person to step on Mars (that's going to be given to women anyway).
This is the reason why your civilization collapsed and theirs did not. Asian societies are competitive. American society takes whoever has female body parts and then celebrates them no matter how big of a slob, drug addicted, poor behavior, it doesn't matter. The worst female is worth more than 95% of the male population no matter what.
Western men are happily removing themselves from you and Eastern men are enjoying the free real estate.
The beauty of a multicultural and inclusive society.
“We do it like in our home country.” Nah man, you’re even more strict lol
It took them over 5 minutes and nearly till the end of the story to use the word "muslim".
first thing i noticed as well
but dont worry, the thought police is always watching over us to keep us safe :)
how dare assciate the word islam with terrorism
islam is the religion of peace, brother :)
you seem to have never heard of sarcasm
Jove Joved They used the word islam less than halfway through the story which had up to that point almost exclusively been hidden camera footage, idiot.
chocobros1 Ah, they do use the word islam just before the halfway mark, you're correct. Not sure what your point is regarding it being largely hidden camera footage when it's interspersed with voiceover, however.
Jove Joved The point was that they had no reason to. The actions depicted happen quickly so why waste your time with a detail like that when you can easily just bring it up later and keep the focus where it should be?
"Something is missing from this picture" Yes.....French people.
You mean white people
Can anybody link an update to how this has progressed 6 years later? I can’t imagine it has improved
I’ve had this happen to me before...they don’t own the public sidewalks or the roads so I just ignore these buffoons ...if they want to treat women like that then they need to go back to where they came from where it’s normal for them to treat women like that
"We do things like in our home countries" G T F O
You are gay
Albanian orthodox A not a problem, I’m calling on them to leave. I don’t plan on going anywhere.
You should be telling your politicians that. Who's letting them in? They couldn't have just walked into your country without a 'welcome' from those granting them so called 'asylum'...
Be more specific, these are muslim neighbourhoods turning into Afghanistan and other Muslim countries. Islam and west don't go together
Thanks for being honest
Ignorance imported to an advanced western country.
Islam doesn’t get along with anyone, not even its own women.
All people should respectfully seek to follow their beliefs, religion, atheism, culture etc, BUT not all peoples/ideologies/belief systems can coexist in the same city when they are at such polarizing opposites.
Even the more liberal side of Islam does not necessarily coexist peacefully in the same place. This makes importing immigrants who are pro-gender segregational Islam extremists to a western country like France 🇫🇷 a incongruent situation that greatly fractures their country and its key beliefs, etc. If France and it’s political decisions had been more focused on bringing in immigrants that were more agreeable to French culture and its law of the land then the feminist liberals running France would not have this problem to begin with. Churches are vacant in France, and most have abandoned the Christian faith so returning to that is not likely. Im sure the liberals there want votes so they bring in immigrants that will be on their side, where as muslim Christians from the middle east would assimilate easier in the west, BUT they would likely vote more towards a Conservative Christian ideology, which is not what their government wants. It is a slow death of a western nation grown on Christian beliefs that is slowly being subverted by the liberal side to pass more & more power
over to a politically godless society that ironically partly uses religious Islam extremist immigrants that oppose Christian conservative values to decrease Frances traditions/culture. Only those 2-4 women were walking in those “men only areas” of town who don’t realize that most of the female extremists are living the way their culture/values taught them, which is what they are comfortable continuing it appears. Sweden, Germany, France, UK, and more are all having problems assimilating immigrants from countries with polarizing religions, beliefs and ideologies that are basically complete opposites.
Ex.
Could a town survive that was only sport animal hunters that are focused on working in coal and oil production PEACEFULLY WITH greenpeace hippies who work in wildlife/nature preservation next door? Maybe a few people but once you get more clashes with mobs from both sides...?
Maybe a more similarly focused culture/ideology would have assimilated better, but politics, money, power, and control over the country seems to prevent it.
You are from india .
They are driving regular, law abiding citizens out of their hometowns... It makes me angry.
This was three years ago. I wonder how the situation is now?
Much much worse. And no improvement to be expected.
Congratulations for reporting on this, this is happening in certain parts of the UK but our media lack the integrity to report it.
Well said Tony 😊👍
Well you could at least mention the County and Borough....😕
Europe gave us a lot of lecture on tolerance last year when we allowed all people following the religion other than Muslims living in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh to take refuge in India. We were branded communal, and what not. I hope that Europe understands the crisis at stake and join hands with India 🇮🇳 to tackle this problem. Remember, unity is strength.
@Ed Mora Quite Obviously, I think that was one of the focus of the video
@@advaitbenare681 yes Europe or should I say the European Union and its followers like to lecture people. They are arrogant. I am sorry about that, not all of us Europeans are the same. You used the the word communal, in the west they use the word racist for anyone who doesn't agree with their plans to destroy culture. The European Union lies and manipulates and wishes to demoralise its own citizens and steal their culture. Dont let their disease infect your countries. Stay strong.
moral of the story don't let in large groups of migrants from other cultures or you will lose your own culture and voice
you know I realised something the other day, I live in a family area of houses which have mostly families... one of the houses wants to be converted into an HMO, which is were multiple unrelated people live together.
There is a lot of resistance to it because it will change the dynamic and character of the area, increase the traffic and you're get more single people, more problems, noisier etc...
Now this is exactly like a parallel of immigration! If another family move in, regardless of where they're from etc no problem, but this is equivalent to "regulated immigration"
But permitting anyone to move into the area, to create any kind of household, is equivalent to "unregulated immigration" and the reason unregulated immigration is a problem, is because it will change things in ways that are unwelcome, the area will no longer be what it used to be - it will lose its character, energy, dynamic etc, which people want to preserve
So yes, we accept immigration but not if it's unregulated and unconditional. Immigrants can't emigrate and not be willing to learn the language, learn about cultural norms, integrate etc, they have have their private lives and subculture, but they're still part of a new society.
Especially if they're refugees and been give santuary...
you know, even though i've benefitted from growing up and living in Hawaii, and even though i was born here, it is not my culture. I've watched this happen to Hawaii as well. The culture has simply been commercialized and its cringey to watch sometimes.
In my defense though, I tried to assimilate but was rejected from doing so as a kid so as an adult I do my own thing. No one can blame me for not assimilating i wont try to please people who reject me for trying
@Diva Desiles I don't think that's relevant here? This is france?
You mean Muslims. No problems.with other groups. They all assimilate. But Muslims are country in country.
Europeans were loath to adapt to the countries they invaded, and took pride in keeping apart. Many states had programmes to "assimilate" the people they had colonised before they could enjoy civil rights in their own country.
Ironically, I lived in Morocco and you'd think this would happen there but it is the exact opposite. Even in smaller towns.
Can I see UA-cam videos or articles about your claim. I’m just curious?
Yeah that's true, the muslim women in France wear more the burka than the muslim women in morocoo 😂
@@aaronbandz4888 What he’s saying is not true, it’s way worse in Morocco and the countries around it
as a Frenchman, I am less and less in favor of social systems, it can work in a united and homogeneous country, because everyone is united by their history, origins, values. But in countries made up of ethnic clans (which France increasingly is), this is to the disadvantage of the native people.
I don't want to pay for strangers.
I don't want them to be taken care of with my money, I don't want them to spend their day in cafes thanks to my taxes. I don't want their children to be taken care of thanks to my taxes, when I know that their children will harass mine at school.
This is all completely crazy. All this mixture destroys and makes everything dirty.
This is one of the reasons why the United States is for me a country where I want to live, and try to stay permanently.
Everyone works for themselves, that’s freedom.
As a gay ex-Muslim, the amount of political correctness in going out of the way to not mention Muslim when talking about these men does not go unnoticed, and judging by the comments section here, no one is being fooled by this type of passive aggressive reporting.
As if addressing the issue will legitimize xenophobia. Ironically, it's the other way around, by not addressing the issue they lump in legitimate criticism of Islam with xenophobia. I'm fairly left-wing (probably more so than those neoliberal media), but I never understood the PC attitude or treating Islam-criticism differently from criticism against Christianity.
I’m from the Middle East and when I came to the West, I was relieved that I’d finally escaped from that rotten culture. Unfortunately I see them everywhere here as well. I guess there’s no escape, is there?
They see you too and think the same thing.
@S Mansha I was in my early teenage years that I started questioning the plausibility of a religion everyone so blindly espoused for. I never thought I belonged there. To my mind, the problem was within the culture, and THEN, the religion. So, imagine coalescing them together! I don't wish to change their minds about their religion, I only wish they could be more accepting of different views; views that deviate from their 'norm'.
I am a middle east guy living in Italy and I totally agree with you and Infact I decided to become agnostic . I hate the people of my country when they behave like this because they are embarrassing all arab people who are well integrated and want to convive well with local people here in Europe. I wish one day middle east countries became less focused on religion....
@S Mansha How can you claim to love the west but reject the values of the entitlement? I never was able to understand you peoples hypocrisy.
@Ak Am Spot on! What is farcical is that I was indirectly called a "bigot" by a crazy leftist for voicing my opinion about my culture. I grew up with these people, I was them and they were me, I know exactly where I'm coming from. It was painful participating in an argument with a European who hasn't taken a breath in a third would country-let alone, a fourth!
so basically islam ghettos in france ?
Little Islam
and in the UK
It's been a while now.
Islamtown... where women aren’t free but the young boys and goats are up for grabs !
Some immigrants take kindness for a weakness
It is all men cafe I don’t know why these women are harassing Muslim men
@@Dhuxul9No, it isn’t. Men cannot collectively decide to make a café a “male-only” space. That is absolutely illegal.
@@sergiovela9961 Plenty female only spaces! It is time real men dealt with these women. Western men are weaklings
"Why are the men rejecting women" - because they think women are lesser than them. It's just tradition !
@@AB-tf8rc aand....what do you mean by that??
Quatermass in Australia Islam is subhuman and not welcome we make that very clear and don’t let them in
@@AB-tf8rc dammmmmmn you got burned, take a look in the mirror buddy jeeeeez
@@AB-tf8rc I see you have damned all women in your remarks and probably side with the m.uslim ideology of suppression of women, and that you believe women over the age of 26 are no longer attractive, these types of views are probably why any woman who got to know you fled in the end, don't blame women to into yourself
@@pinchebruha405 What do you think about the stats that he posted? I checked some of them and he is not too far off on his stats. I am not asking for insults, just addressing the stats.
"Here we do things like we did in the places we didn't want to live in anymore" Brilliant.
"Madness is doing the same thing and expecting different results" comes to mind.
France is supposed to be the most secular country in the world.
In Spain is similar. Currently, Europe is not Europe.
🤣😂
@@Dhuxul9 reconquista. Pack your bags already
@@stersneef3197 I’m African European 😁
@@Dhuxul9
Somalia is garbage, go home
Where exactly?
men who prefer the almost exclusive company of other men are...Gay, right?..
I'm not gayyyyyyyyyy.i haven't been to the gay sauna in months
It's not gay it's pretty much how it was a hundred years ago. These social practices are completely reminiscent of a bygone era brought back by third world immigration.
@@Highwind452 ...let bygones be bygones...it's 2019...they need to come to terms with that.
It sounds pretty gay to me lol
That's not what gay is...
Why isn't the police or city hall get involved? This is so frustrating to watch.
Because the duty of the police is to protect the status quo, which is of course the mass migration into these countries.
@@rixille it's not. I'm talking about reality, not far right paranoia.
@@dunka12 Lmao calling it far right paranoia while complaining that the government isn't doing anything about it. Are you that stupid?
@@rixille your comment was just going straight to conspiracy theories, and i don't think going to that extreme is the smartest conclusion one can have, but hey...you do you boo.
@@dunka12 Look up deterritorialization. This isn't a conspiracy theory. You are just someone who starts labelling others to try and undermine their credibility.
I have seen a café like that in Lyon too, I was really shocked I remember telling my cousin why is this café full of only men?
Where was that café?
@@saramaria2891 I can't remember exactly it was in front of a tramway station and a parking space
@@norel457 Lyon is big haha. But I know already some areas. I was just curious
7 years later it clearly has got far worse.
“We do things like we do in our own country”. What happened to France?
Welfare
Left politics for decades happened.
@David Oh no.............. I thought Australia welcomed the Boers rather than these retarded ?
You let in 3rd world you get 3rd world
@Enza Denino Please stop ruining the comment section with your absurd comments. It's so pointless and tiresome.
I would never think this would be happening in France. Woah. I wonder how is the situation now?
@@ft5660 how is it like? How much of the population is muslims for example? Or do native people get ever harrassed by muslims because pf the things they don't respect? One of my friends friend had been assaulted by syrians because of their sexuality in sweden. I am just wondering whats up there?
It is only men cafe why are these women pushing themselves into that place! They are harassing the men
I am very liberal but the first thing that comes to mind is.."Now I fully understand why Marie Le Pen is so popular."
The BBC or Guardian could be running stories like this.... but they never will
They would, but it would be about the problem of groups Extreme Right Wing women banding together to harass the refugee population.
They would, but they would blame white men for somehow oppressing the white women and everyone else
Will it help if they do? Unpopular opinion but look at what happens when they report on extremist views in the US. It just sows more division and emboldens the two extremes. What do you do if a child has a temper tantrum and won’t listen? You don’t reward them by acknowledging them, you set an example and ignore them. Look at people who’ve fought segregation in the past and how they succeeded.
@@valentinventures "you set an example and ignore them" the women in Paris have attempted that . . . didn't you watch the content ? it clearly hasn't worked for them.
I'm saying the BBC should be even handed in its reporting of racial bias, I don't think anyone else would project that as an "extreme" view. . . . finally I don't think ignoring-the-problem of radicalism is working for France, (Paris in particular) at what point do you stop ignoring the problem ? when people are being beheaded in churches . . . ?
Jeremy, you seem to be showing your low IQ! If you did basic research, you'd see that platforms such as the Guardian have done somewhat similar reporting. For instance, have a look at the video about Norway's Muslim immigrants attending classes on western attitudes on women. Likewise, since you are quite clearly an idiot and don't know how the BBC works - it is public and tax payer funded. That means it has tighter regulations and needs to be careful that it doesn't show attitudes that can influence fringe views.
Good reporting but let's be clear: we're not talking about "men" here, but "Arabic men". Say it like it is!
@ no, we are talking about men who speak Arabic...Arabic men. Like English man who speaks English. Sure you could call them British, Briton, Anglo-Saxon, etc ;but we all know what the subject is at hand.
Arent they men ???
@@cagekind Are you playing word games?
“Islamic” men. Please don’t put down a race of people. Arab people go through enough with that faith oppressing them.
@@NoName-uf6rf It's not putting down the people as a whole, but this report is of an issue specifically with their culture; and it's not racist to say that and we shouldn't be afraid to call it what it is because we're afraid of being called racists.
I’m not French and I’ve never been to France but as an American, I’ve seen this behavior in restaurants run by foreigners. A restaurant asked two women with their kids to move tables because 4 men wanted their seats.....and the manager complied.... I’ve lived in Turkey and understand the Muslim religion but do not understand how they can impose their religion on non-followers. Stay in your country!!!
This is easily fixable.
And i am disgusted when the guy said that his cousin stays home, cant expect a disgustimg person to be a nice uncle anyways
So someone is disgusting because they have a different culture? You seem disgusting to them. So whos right?
@@categories5066 the normal ones who dont think about whether or not their female relatives leave the house because its none of their business and regular mass rapings of women only happen in hellhole countries
@@categories5066 it is disgusting. The way they treat women and children? The way they treat anyone who's slightly different from them. IT'S DISGUSTING!
Jimmy Mcjenkins. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t condone their behaviour, but I want you to think about what you are saying. You think their behaviour is disgusting because their sense of morality and behaviour differs from you. They were raised to think that, you were raised to think the contrary. Simply saying it’s disgusting because it doesn’t agree with your morality is not an argument
Cousin, not uncle.
"But something is missing from the scene, like it was airbrushed out"
Yeah there's no French people.
This is somewhat of a stupid comment to make. There will always be pockets of different ethnic groups in certain countries. Despite the fact that French law promotes a colour blind methodology in public policy it is still estimate that the white population is 85% - who are mostly French.
@@sm-yu7dt it might have been a stupid comment to make if it wasn't a video about a mohammaden neighborhood that doesn't let women out in public
Our politics will tell you that you are a racist and that these people are perfectly integrated and French. Or they will explain that they are poor, disciminated and killed by the naughty cops ^^
it is shameful for French government to let this happen
It is shameful for your tiny brain to think this
In India there are separate train compartments for women so that they don't get harrassed by men.
it's so sad to see that, similar situation here in Brussels. If they want to live like that, they should go back to their home country.
Enza Denino You’ve got some serious issues dude...
@@RandomNumber141 Every time you talk it is to call somebody gay, tell them they "have issues," same thing over and over again. And yet you are a living person with a brain in your head. What are you using it for? By the way, nobody needs you to "save women." Women will be saved by the thousands of other white k_nights. Go drink a beer.
Enza Denino I haven’t used “gay” as an insult since 7th grade and calling out hate and prejudice is not “white knighting.” It’s basic human decency.
true go back to your stupid country they escape to their crazy country and they think they can do whatever they want in someome country
@@AB-tf8rc wow, you seem like you have been hurt recently lol. You are generalizing all women, but you are actually describing the minority of women on the left who are acting that way. I'm a young women from Europe and I have never once said I want these people here, they don't belong here and I'm scared what can happen to me if I'm not careful in cities where there are muslims. Maybe I would be fine with them if they actively tried to accpet our culture and if they acted like normal civilised people, but they don't want to let go of their faith and barbaric way of living so they don't belong here.
And women who are converting to Islam are the ones who are sheltered enough to not know what is actually Islam and how they treat women, and if some of them know then they are crazy and you should not be compering other women to them because it's insults us normal women who would very much not want to be raped!
Very disturbing - must be resisted. In all parts of Europe.
@@AB-tf8rc What are u talking about
@@wonka4 Are you really asking him what he’s talking about??? Just take a minute and THINK who’s reallly at the core of most problems today and who LOVES for men to fight and die for them. Just for the sick ego boost and power.
@@jimclaus1576 Ah nah , now i get it , im guessing he means women voted for muslims to get in or smth.
The headline and outrage would have been massively different if these men were either:
1. White
2. Christian
If they were both, the internet would have been broken
I'm proud of these women! Get It!
Imagine in our day, women having to fight once again for their freedoms
Where all the feminists at?
@@davidrowan3818 did you not watch the video? All of them are feminists
Europeans seem really naive at this point.
No they are stupid
Not really, this is history playing out.... this is the result of colonialism.
You mean politicians... they refuse to listen. And there is an agenda here...
@@concretetype6133 As long as we continue to speak out, and let our voices be heard. And as long as we refuse to give in and fight against it and help people wake up, there will be no 1 World Order. Spread the light!
Politicians refuse to listen
That exactly what happened in india about 1000 year of history....save your country....so called religion of peace were peace cannot be found.
If they try this in the USA, a lot of people would get mad, men and women. They would have no problem finding a fight if that is what they want. I have seen them try to encroach on some suburbs, and now they are staying to themselves, not making the locals do so. Again, these women are doing the brave thing.