If you live anywhere with lightning and other storms this type of device really pays for itself. I added an Eaton CHSP2-ULTRA Surge Protection Device ($137 at HD) to a dedicated, first breaker inside my main electrical panel. This device can handle a surge current of 108 kAmp. Eaton is a well know manufacturer for industrial equipment. Before this instalation I had lost 6 electronic appliances in the laudry and kitchen. In the six years since the installation; I have not lost any more appliances.
Just want to add a few points, I am not US based & this video seems to be aimed at the North American market but generally speaking on SPD's they are not new (this one might be) the technology has been around since the early 50's. There are many different way of dealing with a transient, a GDT (like in this product is one) also an ISG (Isolating Spark Gap) MOV (Metal Oxide Varistor) or a suppressor diode (or sometimes a mix of 2 or more of these technologies). An MOV does not have to be "one and done" many SPD's use MOV's as their means of quenching the surge and these device can and do last 25 years plus. Interestingly the testing protocol in IEC 61643 requires an SPD to be able to deal with 20 events regardless of the technology used in them, so buy a device that meets that standard (as well as being UL compliant) and you'll be very well protected. The differences being that GDT/ISG are voltage switching, very good for dealing with lightning energy and MOV/SD are voltage limiting and very good at dealing with switching surges, inductive loads etc. For more information on SPD's in North America can I point you towards www.dehn-usa.com contact them and ask for Mark, Steven or Ingo.
A Couple questions: 1) Has anyone ever used these ? 2) are they Reliable ? 3) Do they do what they say ? 4) Are They a New Product ? & are Our customers Your guinea pigs ? Good Vid ! Sounds Like snake oil to me ! Liked the video #69
For one thing, the majority of lightening damage to the outside unit is from direct voltage spikes from lightening hitting nearby. The outside unit is usually the only thing around the outside of the house that connected straight to earth ground. They act as a lightening rod. It's extremely rare the lightening comes in through the power supply. If it does, it knocks out almost everything electronic in the home.
I did one for the whole house. My led’s kept burning out. An electrician said it’s from internal surges. We will see. It should help with all the electronics in the house. The way this is wired it won’t help the blower motor. Those are often ECM’s also.
i dont see why u could not use this on the indoor section too. in fact that would be the place i would best see them used since evap blowers are the ones usually taking the hit.
This makes me wonder if there were other underlying issues like a bad neutral. The interlock output could save your devices. For the indoor section, you'd want to add a 120V contactor to control the power to the blower assembly, but that is starting to sound like overkill. I think most customers would hate this thing if it disabled the HVAC. Imagine if it shut off the heat in the middle of the winter....
I didn't see exactly how it is wired, but the extra conduit is likely a problem in this installation. The length of wire going to the SPD must be minimized. The longer the cable, the higher the inductance and the larger the surges that will be let through. Twisting the wires together is also a good idea (to maximize performance). The installation guide states "mount device to keep conductor lengths as short as possible". This product seems great; I want one for my house now. Installing a type 1 or 2 SPD at the main breaker box is also suggested.
As far as lightening damage, these things don't do much good. The outside unit is virtually the only thing sitting outside that's connected straight to earth ground. They attract lightening and acts the same as a lightening rod. It's very rare a surge will come through the power supply. If so it will knock at many electronics in the house.
Love this channel! But some constructive criticism. Dont start a video with dialogue and demonstration that is 3/4 of the way through a process, it will confuse your viewers. And do not have an intro music video. It takes away from your content. This video should have started at the 21 second mark. You can include an intro, but it should be who you are and what is being discussed in the video. Just some words of wisdom for your video editor.
nice
If you live anywhere with lightning and other storms this type of device really pays for itself. I added an Eaton CHSP2-ULTRA Surge Protection Device ($137 at HD) to a dedicated, first breaker inside my main electrical panel. This device can handle a surge current of 108 kAmp. Eaton is a well know manufacturer for industrial equipment. Before this instalation I had lost 6 electronic appliances in the laudry and kitchen. In the six years since the installation; I have not lost any more appliances.
And protection against voltage drops. Nice combo.
Just want to add a few points, I am not US based & this video seems to be aimed at the North American market but generally speaking on SPD's they are not new (this one might be) the technology has been around since the early 50's. There are many different way of dealing with a transient, a GDT (like in this product is one) also an ISG (Isolating Spark Gap) MOV (Metal Oxide Varistor) or a suppressor diode (or sometimes a mix of 2 or more of these technologies). An MOV does not have to be "one and done" many SPD's use MOV's as their means of quenching the surge and these device can and do last 25 years plus. Interestingly the testing protocol in IEC 61643 requires an SPD to be able to deal with 20 events regardless of the technology used in them, so buy a device that meets that standard (as well as being UL compliant) and you'll be very well protected. The differences being that GDT/ISG are voltage switching, very good for dealing with lightning energy and MOV/SD are voltage limiting and very good at dealing with switching surges, inductive loads etc. For more information on SPD's in North America can I point you towards www.dehn-usa.com contact them and ask for Mark, Steven or Ingo.
Thank you for the informative video .
will these work on 24VNA?
Is this product also a " 1 & done" or does it reset when power is corrected? Can it be manually reset after correction of power issue?
Why not have the surge with the disconnect box ? Why not break the R wire since you have a board on you AC/ heat pump?
How would you wire it into a communicating system? Infinity for example
Bryan, what is your view of the Emerson Sure Switch? Thanks for your excellent videos.
Will it work on communicating systems
Wouldn’t a whole house surge protector in the main power box do the same thing?
If an electrical system is protected by an SDP at the service, is this device needed at the AC as well?
Yes
I want to add one to my system, thanks!
Good to know. 🤔 I wondered how those worked.
A Couple questions:
1) Has anyone ever used these ?
2) are they Reliable ?
3) Do they do what they say ?
4) Are They a New Product ?
& are Our customers Your guinea pigs ?
Good Vid ! Sounds Like snake oil to me !
Liked the video #69
For one thing, the majority of lightening damage to the outside unit is from direct voltage spikes from lightening hitting nearby. The outside unit is usually the only thing around the outside of the house that connected straight to earth ground. They act as a lightening rod. It's extremely rare the lightening comes in through the power supply. If it does, it knocks out almost everything electronic in the home.
Great video.
Nice, good concept.
I did one for the whole house. My led’s kept burning out. An electrician said it’s from internal surges. We will see. It should help with all the electronics in the house. The way this is wired it won’t help the blower motor. Those are often ECM’s also.
i dont see why u could not use this on the indoor section too. in fact that would be the place i would best see them used since evap blowers are the ones usually taking the hit.
You put one on both but this is over kill. One inside and one outside is enough.
This makes me wonder if there were other underlying issues like a bad neutral. The interlock output could save your devices. For the indoor section, you'd want to add a 120V contactor to control the power to the blower assembly, but that is starting to sound like overkill.
I think most customers would hate this thing if it disabled the HVAC. Imagine if it shut off the heat in the middle of the winter....
You need a new electrician.
I didn't see exactly how it is wired, but the extra conduit is likely a problem in this installation.
The length of wire going to the SPD must be minimized. The longer the cable, the higher the inductance and the larger the surges that will be let through. Twisting the wires together is also a good idea (to maximize performance).
The installation guide states "mount device to keep conductor lengths as short as possible".
This product seems great; I want one for my house now. Installing a type 1 or 2 SPD at the main breaker box is also suggested.
As far as lightening damage, these things don't do much good. The outside unit is virtually the only thing sitting outside that's connected straight to earth ground. They attract lightening and acts the same as a lightening rod. It's very rare a surge will come through the power supply. If so it will knock at many electronics in the house.
How much?? $$$$
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$132.99
GOOD VIDEO
Love this channel! But some constructive criticism. Dont start a video with dialogue and demonstration that is 3/4 of the way through a process, it will confuse your viewers. And do not have an intro music video. It takes away from your content. This video should have started at the 21 second mark. You can include an intro, but it should be who you are and what is being discussed in the video. Just some words of wisdom for your video editor.
Noted!