Why did they even decide to pound the ball up the middle, into the strength of Michigan's defense? That should have never even been an option, until their DTs were winded from running Tempo, which worked during the 1 drive they tried it.
I have been a Penn State Fan for over 50 years I really wanted OSU to Win this game but Day and Kelly are 2 Weak Buffoons it's just not this game it's been all yr
Just like the local Buckeye beat, they don't want to lose access to the program. That's why they won't criticize Day and Kelly's fake tough guy offensive game plan too severely.
Will Howard is who shit their pants. Ryan Day and Chip Kelly weren't playing the game. They made the calls based on what they saw. Howard missed most of his passes. Just go watch the 2nd int by Howard, the ball was 3-4 yards behind Egbuka. If its thrown in front of him, it's a catch. He'd get hit by the safety, but the DB was beat(BAD) but its not an int in the redzone. Will Howard was OFF all game, and it was worse after the hit he took.
Joel Klatt said it best. It felt like stubbornness in both the Nebraska game and now the Michigan game. Kept trying to run the ball against the best d-line in the country with an average o-line. Just run the 2 minute drill EVERY DRIVE and you win by 30
Or you throw 8 picks... considering you already threw 2 back breaking int's. You still have to block that dominant dline when you throw with that average oline, it's tricky. I mean you ran your, 2 min, hurry up offense on the final drive and after 4 plays you gained 1 yard. You went and hired Kelly so you could run the football which is a must in this game... nobody throws their way to victory in this rivalry.
@florida1289 they were flustered and for some reason had only 40 seconds at the end of the game. The 2 minute drill you should really look at happened before the half. The O-line was doing fine in pass coverage. Another instance of the 2 minute drill working when the run clearly wasn't was also after Nebraska took the lead in the 4th quarter after we ran for 3 straight 3 and outs. After considering "hmm maybe we should do stuff that works", we drove the field instantly
If Howard was too injured to throw accurately or run the ball in the 2nd Half, after his adrenaline wore off, then they should have put Brown in because he could have hit a few deep throws needed to win.
Exactly, all they had to do was not run the ball up the middle, into the strength of Michigan's defense, just like everyone else who beat Michigan. Their ends aren't very good at stopping the run, so that is obviously where they should have attacked with the running game.
I don’t give a shit who is “toughest”. Just win the game and if that means passing 90% of the time do it! Seems like coaches were caught up in this mindset which is incredible and didn’t take advantage of our strengths.
It was so bad offensively, it’s like it was done on purpose…. pathetic game plan💯Drove 11 hours for THE GAME, waited 50 freaking years, and left wondering WTF?
Check their bank accounts. It's games like these that makes me think the NFL and the big games in college football are scripted and swayed to get a desired outcome other then the 2 teams competing on the field.
Allegedly Day and the players had a meeting and Day claimed he would call The Game exactly the same way because he thought they were tougher then Michigan.
Coaching yes, culture no…..Day is haunted by the “soft” comment 4 years ago, he only coaches like this against scUM. His approach was completely different at PSU & against IU.
Did someone forget to tell Day and Kelly that Graham and Grant are all world tackles? WTH would they run right to these guys? Oh I forgot, Day wanted to show them how tough he was.
They certainly didn't coach like they wanted to win it more than anyone. Day looked lost, checked out and coached scared. That is such a bad combination. Not one that should be accepted in the program if they want to be champions. It was such a terrible performance and it 100% started at the top.
Maybe OSU should suspend ( with pay) Ryan Day for The Game because he cannot mentally handle it. Just allow LJ to run the team, the Assistant D-Line Coach to rotate his players to keep them fresh, and Chip to call plays to maximize the offensive players they recruited.
@@terrythompson1980 Day is was mentally broken because he choked once again after choosing to prove his toughness instead of maximizing his player's potential. If he recruits choir boys to run his 7 on 7 finesse offense, and put up 40+ points per game, then that's what he needs to run because he currently has the #1 defense. So they will always be in games.
If memory serves, Tressel always pointed to offense, defense, and kicking game. We have not been solid on special teams for a while. The special teams killed us on Saturday. Weak punts, two short field goals missed. Bad fielding of the kickoff to start the second half. Just need to have better results on thise plays.
@@udrinkit Day had the opportunity to upgrade at Kicker when the Lou Groza Award Winner jumped in the portal from Miami of OH, in OSU's backyard. Instead Day allowed him to transfer to Bama because he was fine settling for his mediocre Kicker, who struggles kicking 30 yarders.
@@deeplorable8988 Day still doesn't have his backup QBs ready to take over or he doesn't trust them because he hung an injured Will Howard out to dry by allowing him to go back in the game. Brown could have did enough to win if he was allowed to throw the ball instead of going 3 and out from running the ball into the strength of Michigan's defense, like Howard was limited to.
Banging head against a brick wall hoping to break through. That's what it's like trying to run inside against two Top-15 pick DTs with 3 backs on your own o-line. Like Bobbby says, Hope is not a plan
As a Michigan fan Idk understand the 4th quarters. Say what ya want about the game before that and missed opportunities. But its 4 years in a row getting absolutely pulverized in the 4th quarter. Yardage, TOP, punts, points, 1st downs. Its just the one common make or break statline in the 4 year run.
Boy these two aren’t nearly as bombastic as usual. They’re as stunned, traumatized, and devastated as the rest of Buckeye nation. Just like last year, great time to be a Wolverine!
What did you think about the fans booing? There were not many Michigan fans there so I think it was all Buckeye fans who were booing. I think they are booing the coaches but as a player does it feel like you are getting booed?
As a 〽️ fan it seemed like it was on the coaches with the ignorant play calling. When Day ran the ball on 3rd and long I knew he had no spine. He was Broken. The body language of both teams heading to the benches after the 3rd quarter ended couldn’t have been any more obvious which team was confident and which team was shell shocked. As long as Day keeps recruiting glamorous WRs instead of animals in the trenches it will never change.
@@Adam-vs2in I am pretty sure Howard was injured after getting clobbered because after Halftime his stats fell off a cliff, after his adrenaline wore off. Regardless, I still blame Day for not trusting his backup QBs because he didn't have them ready to take over. Brown could have easily hit a few deep balls and ran the ball enough to get the win. i don't know why Day assumed a conservative offensive gameplan, with a limited QB, would be good enough to get it done.
@ oh I wouldn’t doubt it. He came back awfully fast after laying on the ground for that long. There’s no way osu would let a concussed player back out on the field in the rivalry game though. 😜 For whatever reason Day doesn’t trust his backups. As a Michigan fan we’ve seen osu 3rd string guy come in and light them up so im not sure why Brown wasn’t part of plan B?
crime that Kelly and Day didnt let Jeramiah win this game for us…makes me sick. ..Kelly runs it up middle on 1st down on two consequtive drives, instead of passing, kills both drives….
Urban coached for Lou Holtz, at ND. That's probably why that comment bothers Day so much. Although that has nothing to do with Days failing mental health issues. He is too soft and his fake tough guy routine is pathetic.
For this roster of guys who came back for some serious unfinished business, to be let down so severely by such a horrendous gameplan is just inexcusable.
WHAT HAPPENED TO “DO WHAT EVER YOU HAVE TO DO TO WIN”? THEY DIDN’T DO THAT AT ALL! JUST KEEP TRYING TO RUN THE BALL DOWN THE MIDDLE EVEN IF YOU CAN’T. THAT IS TOTALLY STUPID. PLAY CALLING WITH THE LACK OF GOOD OLINE AND QB PLAY. PLUS MISSED CLOSE FIELD GOALS.😮 NO EXCUSES! THIS IS TOTALLY ON DAY AND KELLY!
They had more passing attempts against michigan than they had all season other than against Oregon. I really don't understand what you are talking about.
@@HughMorristheJoker numbers don't lie. They tried to pass and have balance. Just because Michigan defended it well doesn't mean it was a bad plan. Plus day and Kelly were not kicking the field goals. That was on the players.
Where were the screens, quick slants, RB passes, and bootlegs to the perimeter? Oh yeah, Howard was injured so he was like McCord without the ability to throw accurately after his adrenaline wore off. So why wasn't Brown or Sayin put in for the 2nd Half, just to win?
@roris5882 he looked perfectly fine to me. Just scared like the rest of the players. It was a tad windy out that day. Maybe ohio state will enforce a rule change that all big games they play will be indoors. I'm sure something is coming. They can't be having all this nasty weather. I mean did you see how bright that sun was shining? Ridiculous.
Ryan Day needs to be fired stop defending him. He's a great guy and great coach. So was John Cooper but they don't win against Michigan. This is a school where a game means as much as the rest of the season. Day knew this. I feel terrible for the defensive staff and players in this game. The offense left them for dead. Enough is enough.
1)Only Army/Navy had less passing yds to a WR than scUM 2) ZERO targets to JJSmith in 2nd half 3) Former beat writer at Ohio St Andrew (believe it's spelled "Lynn"🤷♂️) said post game, "maybe a coach shouldn't have spent the last month looking for a job." TF?! 4) If OSU doesn't fire Day now, it puts us in the scenario where Bama was last year with losing recruits/current players w later Saban exit...
This was the best defense that OSU has faced this year and it's led by a former NFL Coordinator. OSU was outcoached and Michigan won both lines of scrimmage. Tough to win the game when you have an OL that can't hold up to one of the best DLs in the country. Michigan was missing their 2 of their best defensive players (Will Johnson, Rod Moore) due to injury. They also didn't have their #1 offensive player (similar to 2022 when Michigan didn't have Blake Corum available).
Michigan is a mediocre B1G team this year. Days offensive game plan and neglecting his special teams is why he choked the game away. All OSU had to do is what every other team that beat Michigan did, but Day was too busy with his fake tough guy routine to care about winning.
@@roris5882Michigan had a down year after losing several coaches and 17 players to the league. It took a few months for the coaches to figure out the defense. They’re still without a good QB but they’ll fix that in a month or two. Moore will actually have a full offseason to prepare for 2025 unlike the month he had after last season to fill coaching jobs and figure out what players he had to work with. The portal was already picked apart in January after they won the NC. They’ll be back next year.
*I can’t imagine I’m the only person who saw this coming.* All you had to do was watch Howard all season. Only I thought it was be lost due to Howard throwing picks, and incompletions at horrible moments. I did NOT see 60min of the worst play calling in the history of college football, coming. We could pick apart Howard, and the kicker all day long….but, *this was Ryan Day and Chip Kelly showing a level of selfishness, I never thought I’d see in college football.* Trying to make a “toughness” statement with a broken o-line, against the best d-line in college football, was a GROTESQUELY stupid thing to do for one quarter…..never mind the entire game. This was so STUPID, you can’t help but wonder if it was done on purpose. And, for a QB who’s supposed to be able to run, we have yet to even see THAT.* And, now these returning seniors have nothing to show for it. I feel horrible for them, and they have EVERY right to be livid at Day/Kelly. P.S. Foget the natty, that ain’t happening. *P.S. Congrats to our Caleb and our defense who played a GREAT game…they have NO reason to hang their heads. I feel sick for them.*
It's funny, I thought having the expanded playoff would make losses a bit easier to take. Turns out that doesn't actually work. Never felt worse about a loss. I was 8 years old in 96 so that means nothing to me. Only ones comparable were the horrible championship game losses and Purdue and msu. It's not just losing to Michigan, It's that this was the last chance I had to believe in Ryan Day. Can he change my mind? Nothing short of a championship would do that. You can throw out the lazy coaching names available but there's a bunch of good coaches in the NFL and in college. If we have a good athletic department, shouldn't be afraid of making a change after the season.
My 10-year-old granddaughter said Grandpa why do they keep running up the middle when they got all them great receivers so if that don't mean move on from these coaches I don't know what does we'll be having the next same conversation next year in Ann Arbor after the game we won't beat him next year neither that's it I can tell you that right now
Dishonest argument by Bobby and Anthony. This game should never have been close. Ryan Day's game plan was a total loser. Moore out coached Ryan Day for second straight year. Ryan Day a drag on the team.
Shh... "I know we have the best recieving corps in college footbal but... We're gonna trick 'em and RUN the football all FN day! They'll never expect that... right guys!?" 🤣(Geeze!) - Let's usher in the new Mike Vrabel era... Born and raised a "Buckeye!"
Something has to be done soon, or we will start losing recruits, like Michigan did after Tressel, and urban ran the team. Between those 2 coaches, they single handily killed michigans recruiting for years! Just look at the average star rating several years ago, especially before Harbaugh was hired! That’s tough to recover from! I’m not saying that Ryan day should be fired, but Ohio states players need to play tougher and with more pride. And I still don’t know why we played to michigans strengths! Where was the deep plays? We kept running the ball up the middle, and only passed when we had to! We had 3 receivers that could literally out run michigans corners! We played not to lose, while Michigan played to win, and they had nothing to lose, which made them play loose! Tressel would have destroyed that Michigan team, with that talent, and urban would have too!
OSU paid for not pursuing the Miami of Ohio kicker (Lou Groza Award winner) when he transferred to Alabama. Bet he wouldn't have kicked the ball out of bounds 3 times in a row, lol.
Most of the time the team that runs for more yards wins this game. 100 percent of the time the team that scores more points wins the game, so find the best way to score points.
Day is trash. End of story he should resign. No natty no job at this point. No excuses. The coaching staff lost that game. Aka Day. Did Kelly take money to throw the game is my question. 3 10 year old coulda been better. Unexceptable and Day needs to be held accountable. That’s a huge problem in this world. Zero accountability from any one. I’m not sad. I’m not upset anymore. I’m pissed. Day sucks and should resign.
This guys are babbling about "The wind. The wind". How about the fact that the coaches couldn't design single play in the second half to get Smith or Egbuka the ball. Not a single target to either in the second half.
They're 10-2 and still going to the playoffs. WTF are you talking about?! I've been a Bucks fan for 45yrs, and of course it sucks to lose to those cheaters up north but I'm embarrassed by our childish, can't-handle-a-loss, the sky is falling fanbase. You motherfuckers are THE WORST.
#fireday, I'll hashtag and say that until I'm blue in the face. He is a big game and Michigan loser, point blank, nearly every single time. Ohio State and these kids deserve better
Why did these guys come back for this debacle. The coaches needed to give the best receiving corps in NCAAF a chance to win this game when the running game stalled.
I rewatched the draw play that led to 0 yards, the problem was that OSU tried to single block Mason Graham and Graham easily went around the block to make the tackle- really just shouldn't have tried to run anything inside the tackles
All of the complaining about the offensive gameplan doesnt make sense to me. Ohio state had more passing attempts than they had all season other than against oregon. Maybe it wasnt the gameplan was bad it was just michigan played great. Stop making excuses. You lost.
I honestly think this is inside Ryan's head. I think he's cooked once it becomes mental it hard to overcome. Ryan Day is the first time coach at Ohio State, is not a job where coaches cut their teeth. I think it's time to just get the ball rolling and find a new coach. guys, it's not even about the Michigan game it's every primetime game he folds up. and the scheme the play calling becomes extremely extremely questionable his situational decision become extremely questionable. See if you could throw 15 million at Dan Lanning and get him
Should have hit more option plays cause the 1 the ran was a big gain for Q prob the best run play all game and then relied on JJ smith for the passing game. They couldnt cover him and he got no looks in the second half.
The loss is SQUARELY ON CHIP AND RYAN. Caleb downs intercepts the ball on the 16. They run the ball up the middle for 0 yards. Tried a throwback to gee Scott for 0 yards. And then did a draw up the middle to Trey for 0 yards. Not ONE TARGET TO JJ
This loss was another example of Day refusing to learn and adapt from his mistakes, which he always seems ro make during the biggest games and during the most important moments. He still doesn't have a reliable Kicker and he would have a Natty Ring if he had one 2 seasons ago, when it mattered. Day's fake tough guy offensive game plan was pathetic, which shows he still hasn't learned why he had to give up calling plays.
One last thing! Ryan day has to run the table the rest of the way out, by winning the national championship, to save his job, I believe, however it will be tainted in the end!
I'm one who says idc if we win the natty ryan can sit and spin on it on his way out...if we can't beat the one team that matters most idk how a natty just cures everything for everyone? That's literally nuts! So we can just go through this again next year? I mean that is insanity isn't it, repeating the same thing over and over expecting a different result? Well it's been 4 years in a row now...how many more years do you need to feel this way?
Interesting observation: the first year of the BCS we won the natty.The first year of a I think a 4 team playoff system we won the natty.Now its a12 team system hmmmm
I don’t understand why Devin wasn’t given that series. Howard wasn’t right. Maybe the plan would have switched up and we gain momentum. It forced a switch up in the game plan. It’s sad, all together.
Day is weak minded and shits himself when he sees the winged helmet. Please keep him on board though because I love seeing his sad little face at the end of these games! GO BLUE!!
How about the play when orji ran left and Styles was on the end and instead of holding contain he ran into the blocker and Caleb Downs ran into the same blocker. Either one of them could have, should have tackled him.
Just want to see OSU win period. Their is a coaching problem starts with Day? Need to consider a new Head Coach? Day plays not to lose needs to play to win period. Day is a good coach but so was John Copper? But not true Buckeyes! Go Buckeyes!
Days and Kelly's inability to adjust in game is a fireable offense
Why did they even decide to pound the ball up the middle, into the strength of Michigan's defense? That should have never even been an option, until their DTs were winded from running Tempo, which worked during the 1 drive they tried it.
I have been a Penn State Fan for over 50 years I really wanted OSU to Win this game but Day and Kelly are 2 Weak Buffoons it's just not this game it's been all yr
Love your show but your avoiding the Elephant in the room. Ryan Day & Chip Kelly blew this game
Carpenter is too busy blaming the fans for the loss.
I wholeheartedly agree! They let the players down.
Just like the local Buckeye beat, they don't want to lose access to the program. That's why they won't criticize Day and Kelly's fake tough guy offensive game plan too severely.
Day and Kelly shit their pants
…and that’s being nice about it.
Will Howard is who shit their pants. Ryan Day and Chip Kelly weren't playing the game. They made the calls based on what they saw. Howard missed most of his passes. Just go watch the 2nd int by Howard, the ball was 3-4 yards behind Egbuka. If its thrown in front of him, it's a catch. He'd get hit by the safety, but the DB was beat(BAD) but its not an int in the redzone. Will Howard was OFF all game, and it was worse after the hit he took.
Day always shits his pants under the bright lights of the primetime game
Bad.
@@buckguy1215running at their 2 best players when your weakness is the IOL is not the smartest
Joel Klatt said it best. It felt like stubbornness in both the Nebraska game and now the Michigan game. Kept trying to run the ball against the best d-line in the country with an average o-line. Just run the 2 minute drill EVERY DRIVE and you win by 30
Or you throw 8 picks... considering you already threw 2 back breaking int's. You still have to block that dominant dline when you throw with that average oline, it's tricky.
I mean you ran your, 2 min, hurry up offense on the final drive and after 4 plays you gained 1 yard.
You went and hired Kelly so you could run the football which is a must in this game... nobody throws their way to victory in this rivalry.
@florida1289 they were flustered and for some reason had only 40 seconds at the end of the game. The 2 minute drill you should really look at happened before the half. The O-line was doing fine in pass coverage.
Another instance of the 2 minute drill working when the run clearly wasn't was also after Nebraska took the lead in the 4th quarter after we ran for 3 straight 3 and outs. After considering "hmm maybe we should do stuff that works", we drove the field instantly
Bobby Carpenter is no Joel Klatt. Joel is intelligent.
There is nothing wrong staying at 3rd base.
If Howard was too injured to throw accurately or run the ball in the 2nd Half, after his adrenaline wore off, then they should have put Brown in because he could have hit a few deep throws needed to win.
19 rushes in between the guards for 18yds. 1 perimeter run for 17 yds, 1 run to the c gap for 10ish yards. Wtf make it make sense
Exactly, all they had to do was not run the ball up the middle, into the strength of Michigan's defense, just like everyone else who beat Michigan. Their ends aren't very good at stopping the run, so that is obviously where they should have attacked with the running game.
Yeah. That's a fireable offense. He should be fired. Anyone else would
This was the only road game victory Michigan had this season. That's how bad Ryan Day coaches.
Watching these guys after Thanksgiving weekend has become one of my favorite holiday traditions!
I don’t give a shit who is “toughest”. Just win the game and if that means passing 90% of the time do it! Seems like coaches were caught up in this mindset which is incredible and didn’t take advantage of our strengths.
Excellent analysis.....
Agree man.
Your asking Ryan day to actually do his job
Thank you!!!
That's right perimeter attack speed option pulling guards and passing to Trey and Quinshon out on the edge and more tempo.
It was so bad offensively, it’s like it was done on purpose…. pathetic game plan💯Drove 11 hours for THE GAME, waited 50 freaking years, and left wondering WTF?
That is a very interesting take ; things that make you HMMMMM .
Check their bank accounts. It's games like these that makes me think the NFL and the big games in college football are scripted and swayed to get a desired outcome other then the 2 teams competing on the field.
I feel the same.. that's how it comes off, like why hasn't he had a game like this yet? he's been on it. seemed so on purpose it isn't funny.
It was completely dumb
Allegedly Day and the players had a meeting and Day claimed he would call The Game exactly the same way because he thought they were tougher then Michigan.
People can say what they want. Ryan Day and Chuck Kelly blew this game
Choke City
Can we all agree there is a coaching and culture problem it all starts with day.
Coaching yes, culture no…..Day is haunted by the “soft” comment 4 years ago, he only coaches like this against scUM. His approach was completely different at PSU & against IU.
@@KevinKordish different yes, but we still didnt win big like we should have with the weapons we have against IU, or PSU for that matter.
Yes the head coach needs to go!
Ryan day simply dosent get the culture of Ohio state.hes not an Ohio guy
Yes Yes and Yes. Definitely a Day problem. He plays not to lose. Soft soft and Soft.
Please keep Day stranded on 3rd Base in Cbus!!😂 #smash〽️
“Some people just gotta learn how to lose”
Did someone forget to tell Day and Kelly that Graham and Grant are all world tackles? WTH would they run right to these guys? Oh I forgot, Day wanted to show them how tough he was.
There is wrong nothing with staying at 3rd base. It's a good spot to lay an egg and add Grecian formula to ur beard
Lou Holtz must be so proud of Day for costing his team a win because of his soft ego.
They certainly didn't coach like they wanted to win it more than anyone. Day looked lost, checked out and coached scared. That is such a bad combination. Not one that should be accepted in the program if they want to be champions. It was such a terrible performance and it 100% started at the top.
There is nothing wrong with staying at 3rd base. He has earned nothing. He eats shit for breakfast
Maybe OSU should suspend ( with pay) Ryan Day for The Game because he cannot mentally handle it. Just allow LJ to run the team, the Assistant D-Line Coach to rotate his players to keep them fresh, and Chip to call plays to maximize the offensive players they recruited.
Did you happen to see him walking off the field after the loss, after the fight? It was weird
@@terrythompson1980 Day is was mentally broken because he choked once again after choosing to prove his toughness instead of maximizing his player's potential. If he recruits choir boys to run his 7 on 7 finesse offense, and put up 40+ points per game, then that's what he needs to run because he currently has the #1 defense. So they will always be in games.
If memory serves, Tressel always pointed to offense, defense, and kicking game. We have not been solid on special teams for a while. The special teams killed us on Saturday. Weak punts, two short field goals missed. Bad fielding of the kickoff to start the second half. Just need to have better results on thise plays.
So true I have heard put this way we use 100 yards of the field. The punt according to Jim Tressel is the most important play in football
The Superior Michigan team owns Osu. It's gonna be 5 straight next year.
PRESSURE IS A KILLER. DAY RUNS TO TRY TO BE TOUGH. PLAYS RIGHT INTO MICHIGAN'S STRENGTH.
Kirk Barton, on Buckeye Scoop, was right on the money, with all he had to say.
He’s a buffoon. And his little faceless sidekick is a wannabe insider.
Day tried to prove something and wouldn’t stop running between the tackles. Wild game plan
This is not on the players it’s on Day
Day never should've missed those 2 FG.
@@udrinkityeah he should’ve just ran the ball every time
A lot of it was on Will Howard. Let's be honest.
@@udrinkit Day had the opportunity to upgrade at Kicker when the Lou Groza Award Winner jumped in the portal from Miami of OH, in OSU's backyard. Instead Day allowed him to transfer to Bama because he was fine settling for his mediocre Kicker, who struggles kicking 30 yarders.
@@deeplorable8988 Day still doesn't have his backup QBs ready to take over or he doesn't trust them because he hung an injured Will Howard out to dry by allowing him to go back in the game. Brown could have did enough to win if he was allowed to throw the ball instead of going 3 and out from running the ball into the strength of Michigan's defense, like Howard was limited to.
These guys won’t say fire day.they won’t be invited back to the woody
Banging head against a brick wall hoping to break through. That's what it's like trying to run inside against two Top-15 pick DTs with 3 backs on your own o-line. Like Bobbby says, Hope is not a plan
Day is not the man .😮
I disagree. Nothing wrong with staying at 3rd base. It's a good spot to be tough and add Grecian formula
I love you guys, especially being former players but please call a spade a spade. Then be positive.
i’m loving the melt downs go blue
The play calling is indefensable
As a Michigan fan Idk understand the 4th quarters. Say what ya want about the game before that and missed opportunities. But its 4 years in a row getting absolutely pulverized in the 4th quarter. Yardage, TOP, punts, points, 1st downs. Its just the one common make or break statline in the 4 year run.
Boy these two aren’t nearly as bombastic as usual. They’re as stunned, traumatized, and devastated as the rest of Buckeye nation. Just like last year, great time to be a Wolverine!
What did you think about the fans booing? There were not many Michigan fans there so I think it was all Buckeye fans who were booing. I think they are booing the coaches but as a player does it feel like you are getting booed?
Great point. The booing certainly does not help the players.
@@PonderingOne Welcome to big boy college football, where the star players get paid Millions.
As a 〽️ fan it seemed like it was on the coaches with the ignorant play calling.
When Day ran the ball on 3rd and long I knew he had no spine. He was Broken.
The body language of both teams heading to the benches after the 3rd quarter ended couldn’t have been any more obvious which team was confident and which team was shell shocked. As long as Day keeps recruiting glamorous WRs instead of animals in the trenches it will never change.
@@Adam-vs2in I am pretty sure Howard was injured after getting clobbered because after Halftime his stats fell off a cliff, after his adrenaline wore off. Regardless, I still blame Day for not trusting his backup QBs because he didn't have them ready to take over. Brown could have easily hit a few deep balls and ran the ball enough to get the win. i don't know why Day assumed a conservative offensive gameplan, with a limited QB, would be good enough to get it done.
@ oh I wouldn’t doubt it. He came back awfully fast after laying on the ground for that long. There’s no way osu would let a concussed player back out on the field in the rivalry game though. 😜
For whatever reason Day doesn’t trust his backups. As a Michigan fan we’ve seen osu 3rd string guy come in and light them up so im not sure why Brown wasn’t part of plan B?
crime that Kelly and Day didnt let Jeramiah win this game for us…makes me sick. ..Kelly runs it up middle on 1st down on two consequtive drives, instead of passing, kills both drives….
Ryan Day tried to prove how tough he is to a coach that is no longer coaching college football. Day made this about his ego and NOT about the team.
Urban coached for Lou Holtz, at ND. That's probably why that comment bothers Day so much. Although that has nothing to do with Days failing mental health issues. He is too soft and his fake tough guy routine is pathetic.
Let’s Go Blue! Hail! 💛〽️💙
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For this roster of guys who came back for some serious unfinished business, to be let down so severely by such a horrendous gameplan is just inexcusable.
WHAT HAPPENED TO “DO WHAT EVER YOU HAVE TO DO TO WIN”? THEY DIDN’T DO THAT AT ALL! JUST KEEP TRYING TO RUN THE BALL DOWN THE MIDDLE EVEN IF YOU CAN’T. THAT IS TOTALLY STUPID. PLAY CALLING WITH THE LACK OF GOOD OLINE AND QB PLAY. PLUS MISSED CLOSE FIELD GOALS.😮 NO EXCUSES! THIS IS TOTALLY ON DAY AND KELLY!
They had more passing attempts against michigan than they had all season other than against Oregon. I really don't understand what you are talking about.
They ran it on 3rd and 8 and 3rd and 10. You cannot defend game plan or play calling.
@@HughMorristheJoker numbers don't lie. They tried to pass and have balance. Just because Michigan defended it well doesn't mean it was a bad plan. Plus day and Kelly were not kicking the field goals. That was on the players.
Where were the screens, quick slants, RB passes, and bootlegs to the perimeter? Oh yeah, Howard was injured so he was like McCord without the ability to throw accurately after his adrenaline wore off. So why wasn't Brown or Sayin put in for the 2nd Half, just to win?
@roris5882 he looked perfectly fine to me. Just scared like the rest of the players. It was a tad windy out that day. Maybe ohio state will enforce a rule change that all big games they play will be indoors. I'm sure something is coming. They can't be having all this nasty weather. I mean did you see how bright that sun was shining? Ridiculous.
It feels like every year day has been there. Ok I’m done. I speak truth. Stop being fanboys and call him out.
Ryan Day needs to be fired stop defending him. He's a great guy and great coach. So was John Cooper but they don't win against Michigan. This is a school where a game means as much as the rest of the season. Day knew this. I feel terrible for the defensive staff and players in this game. The offense left them for dead. Enough is enough.
He let them kids down again.
He did
Again and Again, Again, Again!. HAIL 〽️
FIRE DAY ! RJT OSU 66 Veteran
There was no reason for Howard to go back in the game. I’ll ride or die with a backup before relying on a concussed QB.
Cheese
That was a rough hit 🎯
The players came to play and boy they showed up with lots of emotion. Loved the Judkins energy man.
Bobby and Anthony, and AJ, simply the best my friends!
1)Only Army/Navy had less passing yds to a WR than scUM
2) ZERO targets to JJSmith in 2nd half
3) Former beat writer at Ohio St Andrew (believe it's spelled "Lynn"🤷♂️) said post game, "maybe a coach shouldn't have spent the last month looking for a job." TF?!
4) If OSU doesn't fire Day now, it puts us in the scenario where Bama was last year with losing recruits/current players w later Saban exit...
This was the best defense that OSU has faced this year and it's led by a former NFL Coordinator. OSU was outcoached and Michigan won both lines of scrimmage. Tough to win the game when you have an OL that can't hold up to one of the best DLs in the country. Michigan was missing their 2 of their best defensive players (Will Johnson, Rod Moore) due to injury. They also didn't have their #1 offensive player (similar to 2022 when Michigan didn't have Blake Corum available).
Michigan is a mediocre B1G team this year. Days offensive game plan and neglecting his special teams is why he choked the game away. All OSU had to do is what every other team that beat Michigan did, but Day was too busy with his fake tough guy routine to care about winning.
@@roris5882Michigan had a down year after losing several coaches and 17 players to the league. It took a few months for the coaches to figure out the defense. They’re still without a good QB but they’ll fix that in a month or two. Moore will actually have a full offseason to prepare for 2025 unlike the month he had after last season to fill coaching jobs and figure out what players he had to work with. The portal was already picked apart in January after they won the NC. They’ll be back next year.
It's not on the players it's on the head coach!!!
I would really like to know who actually called the offensive game plan-was it Chip or Ryan?
Me too D Day definitely had something to do with it and probably nobody is going to reveal that.Only D Day can man up and admit it.
*I can’t imagine I’m the only person who saw this coming.* All you had to do was watch Howard all season. Only I thought it was be lost due to Howard throwing picks, and incompletions at horrible moments. I did NOT see 60min of the worst play calling in the history of college football, coming. We could pick apart Howard, and the kicker all day long….but, *this was Ryan Day and Chip Kelly showing a level of selfishness, I never thought I’d see in college football.* Trying to make a “toughness” statement with a broken o-line, against the best d-line in college football, was a GROTESQUELY stupid thing to do for one quarter…..never mind the entire game. This was so STUPID, you can’t help but wonder if it was done on purpose. And, for a QB who’s supposed to be able to run, we have yet to even see THAT.* And, now these returning seniors have nothing to show for it. I feel horrible for them, and they have EVERY right to be livid at Day/Kelly. P.S. Foget the natty, that ain’t happening. *P.S. Congrats to our Caleb and our defense who played a GREAT game…they have NO reason to hang their heads. I feel sick for them.*
It's funny, I thought having the expanded playoff would make losses a bit easier to take. Turns out that doesn't actually work. Never felt worse about a loss. I was 8 years old in 96 so that means nothing to me. Only ones comparable were the horrible championship game losses and Purdue and msu. It's not just losing to Michigan, It's that this was the last chance I had to believe in Ryan Day. Can he change my mind? Nothing short of a championship would do that. You can throw out the lazy coaching names available but there's a bunch of good coaches in the NFL and in college. If we have a good athletic department, shouldn't be afraid of making a change after the season.
This describes how I feel exactly, at this point if they make and or win the championship I will almost be more angry about this loss.
Those Buckeye tears are so gd sweet! Still rock with the General even though im a Michigan fan.
Go Blue! But these two are awesome. Great discussion and analysis as always guys.
My 10-year-old granddaughter said Grandpa why do they keep running up the middle when they got all them great receivers so if that don't mean move on from these coaches I don't know what does we'll be having the next same conversation next year in Ann Arbor after the game we won't beat him next year neither that's it I can tell you that right now
The game plan is it!! No adjustments. Exploit your enemies weakness!! Ryan and Chip. Nothing else
Dishonest argument by Bobby and Anthony. This game should never have been close. Ryan Day's game plan was a total loser. Moore out coached Ryan Day for second straight year. Ryan Day a drag on the team.
This starts with Day / Kelly piss poor play calling. Why you two is avoiding the elephant in the room
Shh... "I know we have the best recieving corps in college footbal but... We're gonna trick 'em and RUN the football all FN day! They'll never expect that... right guys!?" 🤣(Geeze!) - Let's usher in the new Mike Vrabel era... Born and raised a "Buckeye!"
😂 unfortunately very true!
Something has to be done soon, or we will start losing recruits, like Michigan did after Tressel, and urban ran the team. Between those 2 coaches, they single handily killed michigans recruiting for years! Just look at the average star rating several years ago, especially before Harbaugh was hired! That’s tough to recover from! I’m not saying that Ryan day should be fired, but Ohio states players need to play tougher and with more pride. And I still don’t know why we played to michigans strengths! Where was the deep plays? We kept running the ball up the middle, and only passed when we had to! We had 3 receivers that could literally out run michigans corners! We played not to lose, while Michigan played to win, and they had nothing to lose, which made them play loose! Tressel would have destroyed that Michigan team, with that talent, and urban would have too!
It was time to move on from Day after last year, now there is no doubt.
OSU paid for not pursuing the Miami of Ohio kicker (Lou Groza Award winner) when he transferred to Alabama. Bet he wouldn't have kicked the ball out of bounds 3 times in a row, lol.
Most of the time the team that runs for more yards wins this game. 100 percent of the time the team that scores more points wins the game, so find the best way to score points.
Day is trash. End of story he should resign. No natty no job at this point. No excuses. The coaching staff lost that game. Aka Day. Did Kelly take money to throw the game is my question. 3 10 year old coulda been better. Unexceptable and Day needs to be held accountable. That’s a huge problem in this world. Zero accountability from any one. I’m not sad. I’m not upset anymore. I’m pissed. Day sucks and should resign.
The coaches failed not the players. Not sure what the offensive game plan was
Even the best team, without a sound plan, can't score. -Woody Hayes
This guys are babbling about "The wind. The wind". How about the fact that the coaches couldn't design single play in the second half to get Smith or Egbuka the ball. Not a single target to either in the second half.
Zvada had no problem kicking a 50+ yard bomb in the wind. It’s always something.
Michigan broke Ryan Day and most if not all of your fans including Joel Klatt😂😂
Rent-free, HAIL TO THE VICTOR'S GO BLUE 〽️.
This season is over. How can anyone have confidence in day& kelly at this point
They're 10-2 and still going to the playoffs. WTF are you talking about?! I've been a Bucks fan for 45yrs, and of course it sucks to lose to those cheaters up north but I'm embarrassed by our childish, can't-handle-a-loss, the sky is falling fanbase. You motherfuckers are THE WORST.
#fireday. Anything other than that is loser mentality. Next man up. If he cant beat this version of UM, what team will he beat
#fireday, I'll hashtag and say that until I'm blue in the face. He is a big game and Michigan loser, point blank, nearly every single time. Ohio State and these kids deserve better
Why did these guys come back for this debacle. The coaches needed to give the best receiving corps in NCAAF a chance to win this game when the running game stalled.
I compare this past Saturdays game like this, Ryan Days 2024 Chevy Camaro lost a race to Sherrone Moores 1981 Yugo
Yeah, but the 2024 Camaro ended up being a 1LS with the 2.0L 4cyl and not the ZL1 with 650hp like in the sales brochure
Bucks you're killing me man that's good
I rewatched the draw play that led to 0 yards, the problem was that OSU tried to single block Mason Graham and Graham easily went around the block to make the tackle- really just shouldn't have tried to run anything inside the tackles
Go Blue 💙
All of the complaining about the offensive gameplan doesnt make sense to me. Ohio state had more passing attempts than they had all season other than against oregon. Maybe it wasnt the gameplan was bad it was just michigan played great. Stop making excuses. You lost.
I’ll do it and beat Michigan for 2 million a year.
I honestly think this is inside Ryan's head. I think he's cooked once it becomes mental it hard to overcome. Ryan Day is the first time coach at Ohio State, is not a job where coaches cut their teeth. I think it's time to just get the ball rolling and find a new coach. guys, it's not even about the Michigan game it's every primetime game he folds up. and the scheme the play calling becomes extremely extremely questionable his situational decision become extremely questionable. See if you could throw 15 million at Dan Lanning and get him
Should have hit more option plays cause the 1 the ran was a big gain for Q prob the best run play all game and then relied on JJ smith for the passing game. They couldnt cover him and he got no looks in the second half.
12:56 really disappointed that Schlegs didn’t have an XSport mouthguard to model for us like usual.
You may hear day sucks instead of go bucks. Cause it’s true.
The loss is SQUARELY ON CHIP AND RYAN. Caleb downs intercepts the ball on the 16. They run the ball up the middle for 0 yards. Tried a throwback to gee Scott for 0 yards. And then did a draw up the middle to Trey for 0 yards. Not ONE TARGET TO JJ
This was nothing like the peach bowl.
I still can’t believe it
Here is what I say. Ryan , win the natty to keep ur job. Let's see next games offense. Gotta believe bro !
Maybe Andy Katzenmoyer should coach the team- I hear he's available now since he lost his greeter job at Walmart.
You sound like you’re in third grade.👀👀👀
This loss was another example of Day refusing to learn and adapt from his mistakes, which he always seems ro make during the biggest games and during the most important moments. He still doesn't have a reliable Kicker and he would have a Natty Ring if he had one 2 seasons ago, when it mattered. Day's fake tough guy offensive game plan was pathetic, which shows he still hasn't learned why he had to give up calling plays.
Talk the talk better walk the walk Ryan Day 👍
Go Blue! Wait till next year in the Big House win we have an NFL roster. That will be 5 wins in a row. 😂
Yeah, another 7-5 season, yippee but we can beat Ohio State, while they go to the playoffs.😳
@ Don’t worry we’re Michigan we will bounce back big time.
10 yards in the 4th quarter, at home, in the Shoe.
One last thing! Ryan day has to run the table the rest of the way out, by winning the national championship, to save his job, I believe, however it will be tainted in the end!
4 in a row
I'm one who says idc if we win the natty ryan can sit and spin on it on his way out...if we can't beat the one team that matters most idk how a natty just cures everything for everyone? That's literally nuts! So we can just go through this again next year? I mean that is insanity isn't it, repeating the same thing over and over expecting a different result? Well it's been 4 years in a row now...how many more years do you need to feel this way?
Maybe a nice slice of humble pie isn't so bad before the Natty run.. Go bucks!
Interesting observation: the first year of the BCS we won the natty.The first year of a I think a 4 team playoff system we won the natty.Now its a12 team system hmmmm
I don’t understand why Devin wasn’t given that series. Howard wasn’t right. Maybe the plan would have switched up and we gain momentum. It forced a switch up in the game plan. It’s sad, all together.
Will this be another post-season in which we almost win a game?
One thing for sure you wait on Michigan. they will dictate the game and that is what happened.
Environment, check, player emotion, check, gameplan and cosching? ABSOLUTELY NOT CHECKED!
Day is weak minded and shits himself when he sees the winged helmet. Please keep him on board though because I love seeing his sad little face at the end of these games! GO BLUE!!
Now those guys Everytime they come back for something there gonna be known as the 0-4 team
How about the play when orji ran left and Styles was on the end and instead of holding contain he ran into the blocker and Caleb Downs ran into the same blocker. Either one of them could have, should have tackled him.
Just want to see OSU win period. Their is a coaching problem starts with Day? Need to consider a new Head Coach? Day plays not to lose needs to play to win period. Day is a good coach but so was John Copper? But not true Buckeyes! Go Buckeyes!
You almost wonder if a Vegas set up.