Why Your Mower Engine is Surging!

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  • @baldeagle242
    @baldeagle242  Рік тому +14

    👇Click here for the full video👇
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    A simple fix for a surging John Deere X300 or any mower with a twin Kawasaki FH491V 17hp engine. This one turned out to be a very simple repair. I also explain the four most common issues that will cause your mower to surge and show you how to fix them.
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  • @bodiejames
    @bodiejames Рік тому +148

    I been trying to mow with my thumb over it but I cant get it right.

  • @donwilliams169
    @donwilliams169 Рік тому +17

    Thank you for that tip have seen it many times my neighbor as one's been doing that for two or three years he says it's still mowing😅

  • @chadbailey189
    @chadbailey189 6 місяців тому +10

    I learned something today, thank you

  • @nickrobbins3226
    @nickrobbins3226 3 місяці тому +2

    One of the freeze plugs came out. I am going through this right now. Now I need to know how to fix it without buying a new carburetor.

  • @THINKincessantly
    @THINKincessantly Рік тому +8

    Crack in the casting? Cant tell what your finger is covering....always appreciate the Eagles vids...Helps those of us that use small engines daily or weekly! Long health and prosperity to you from East Texas! 🇨🇱👈🏻I know its Chile but its close enough 😅

    • @baldeagle242
      @baldeagle242  Рік тому +5

      Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. It’s tuff to fit everything into these short form videos. I have a full video on this issue that goes into a lot more detail and shows the problem close up. Here is a link to that video.
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    • @greyson7379
      @greyson7379 6 місяців тому +1

      @@baldeagle242link isn’t working. You didn’t type it in right and we can’t copy and paste it.

    • @baldeagle242
      @baldeagle242  6 місяців тому +3

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    • @rafaelmorel-l6v
      @rafaelmorel-l6v 4 місяці тому +1

      @@baldeagle242

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      @rafaelmorel-l6v 4 місяці тому +1

      @@baldeagle242

  • @icebear6393
    @icebear6393 Рік тому +2

    I wish I had known about this problem years ago when I worked for a mobile home park, they had a mower that did this I bet you that was the problem.
    Then just last year my John Deere s140 did the same thing at 230 hours just like the park mower 230 hours. I ended up messing with Governor settings on the s140 and blowing the governor up no problem easy enough to fix that.
    Anyways thanks for making this definitely good to know if it ever starts happening again on my s140 fingers crossed it doesn't

    • @baldeagle242
      @baldeagle242  Рік тому +2

      I’ve seen it a few times over the years. If you watch the full video on this mower I pulled the entire carb off and took it apart to clean it before I found the Welch plug missing. It’s more common on Briggs and Stratton Nikki carbs but since I’ve posted this video I’ve heard from a lot of people that have had this issue on the Kawasaki engines as well. I’ll post a link to the full video below. 👇
      Simple Fix For a Surging John Deere X300 - Kawasaki FH491V 17hp #baldeagle242
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      Thanks for taking the time to comment. I hope to see you around on future videos. 😁👍

    • @icebear6393
      @icebear6393 Рік тому +1

      @@baldeagle242 The mower we used at the park was a Hustler with a Kawasaki I think it was the k750 could be wrong it's been a while since I worked there I always wondered what you call that little metal dome

  • @markharris4260
    @markharris4260 Рік тому +7

    It's crazy but any airleak like that can do it

  • @Captivate29307
    @Captivate29307 Рік тому +3

    Mine cuts great for about an hour, then acts like it's getting too much gas. Going to replace fuel filter, carb this weekend. Already replaced air filter and spark plug. Could it also possible be an intake manifold crack?

    • @baldeagle242
      @baldeagle242  Рік тому +2

      Probably not the intake. A crack allows to much air to enter and will cause surging.

    • @Captivate29307
      @Captivate29307 Рік тому +1

      @@baldeagle242 Thanks, I just realized these have two spark plugs and I only changed one. Going to try that first.

    • @Mike-su8si
      @Mike-su8si Рік тому

      And when the jet holes need drilled out a tad bit bigger in the carburetor to small of holes can cause it to

    • @Mike-su8si
      @Mike-su8si Рік тому +1

      It getting to much gas means your float in the carburetor bowl is getting stuck mine did multiple times before few years ago all on the single cylinder Kohlers because the metal bowls corrode inside then cause the float to not work how it should they're replacement bowls are no good they'll last a few months then corrode float gets stuck open and stuck closed because the bowls corrode they're not made right and is why im not going to keep using Kohler single cylinder engines anymore so its not the gas thats the problem the problem is the metal bowls and how they're made the stuff that keeps them from corroding they don't have they've not been dipped

    • @Chris-bh3cm
      @Chris-bh3cm 5 місяців тому

      ​@Mike-su8si
      Just pulled the bowl of my twin 24hp. Everything was green as grass, like copper. Never seen that before. Float needle stuck 90% closed.

  • @shawnwarwick5348
    @shawnwarwick5348 7 місяців тому +21

    99 percent of the time searching is caused by a clog in your jet restricting fuel

  • @rodgersmith8632
    @rodgersmith8632 4 місяці тому +2

    Learn something new thank you 😊

    • @baldeagle242
      @baldeagle242  4 місяці тому +1

      👇Click here for the full video👇
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  • @romeedonn2nda
    @romeedonn2nda 3 місяці тому +4

    Guys trying adjusting the throttle cable when your engine is surging like this! I tried everything else and if you have as well try adjusting the cable and tighten down the bolt that holds it. Power purs like a kitten without buying it or changing any!

  • @machz800
    @machz800 Рік тому +11

    Oh that's how you adjust the carburetor clutch 😂🤣😂🤣 Try putting in a new muffler bearing 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣👍👍👍

    • @ctconway8684
      @ctconway8684 4 місяці тому

      Oh yeah, and check the Whattacallit filter!

  • @allanjohnson6264
    @allanjohnson6264 19 днів тому +1

    I Kinda Like The Sound Of The Surging Because It Sounds Like There’s A “Big Cam” 😮 Lol.

  • @HowardFBeale-ql6gk
    @HowardFBeale-ql6gk 27 днів тому +1

    Its not always the little plugs. I got one in the shop right now...new carb, new fuel pump, new fuel, and i even isolated the entire fuel system from the engine and added a supplementary fuel tank and pump. No vacuum leaks. Still surging. Governor adjustment is perfect. No explanation. I work on these every day and would consider myself a Krackasaki expert. Fucking mystery.

    • @baldeagle242
      @baldeagle242  27 днів тому +2

      I’ve had a few like that over the years. Drives you nuts.

    • @ZackaryJoubert
      @ZackaryJoubert 14 днів тому

      What ended up being the problem?

  • @craigarmstrong5291
    @craigarmstrong5291 Рік тому +4

    Air is getting in at the top ??

    • @baldeagle242
      @baldeagle242  Рік тому +1

      Correct, the Welch plug fell out and it’s sucking air in causing the carb to run lean. Simple fix, just took me longer to catch it than it should have. 🤦🏻

  • @bradleyhorn2316
    @bradleyhorn2316 7 місяців тому +2

    Little gray rtv works perfect

  • @Marktheshark943
    @Marktheshark943 11 місяців тому +2

    I did all this and now it purse like a kitty but that’s all it does like it’s on constant idle. Anyone know what I did wrong ?

    • @baldeagle242
      @baldeagle242  11 місяців тому +2

      +@hikeworld3104 Does the throttle plate move when you move the lever up and down?

    • @Marktheshark943
      @Marktheshark943 11 місяців тому +2

      @@baldeagle242 hi thank you for replying yes it does but I figured it out it needed to click into the base of the top. Works good 👍

    • @baldeagle242
      @baldeagle242  11 місяців тому

      @hikeworld3104 That’s great to hear. I’m glad you were able to get it going. Here’s a link to a few other videos I’ve posted that you may find useful. ua-cam.com/play/PL5_ZXmQpcjpac4UV8OW8g-IWVCR8tqy79.html&si=RKfnQL-PAcZFy67a

  • @christophermasterson8753
    @christophermasterson8753 2 місяці тому +1

    What's up there that your plugging?

    • @baldeagle242
      @baldeagle242  2 місяці тому +1

      @@christophermasterson8753 Welch plug fell out and allows to much air into the carb.

  • @justrj1
    @justrj1 6 місяців тому +2

    If that is supposed to be the air fuel adjustment, my carb does not have one of those.

    • @baldeagle242
      @baldeagle242  6 місяців тому +1

      Most newer carbs are factory set without adjustments.

  • @sleezymechanic
    @sleezymechanic 10 місяців тому +2

    Simple whenever the engine is hunting its always a lean problem.

    • @sleezymechanic
      @sleezymechanic 10 місяців тому +1

      Always start with the basics too. I had a sheered flywheel key send me through the ringer one time.

  • @blackstar1557
    @blackstar1557 Рік тому +10

    No normal carburetor has a random hole in the top ..

    • @baldeagle242
      @baldeagle242  Рік тому +5

      Most of them have Welch plugs somewhere on them. The are part of the machining process to drill holes that are needed inside the carburetor and then the access hole is plugged.

    • @kdcustoms1272
      @kdcustoms1272 11 місяців тому +2

      Exactly, lil jb weld or duct tape she good😂

    • @williamsantiago7303
      @williamsantiago7303 9 місяців тому +1

      Is there a plug that can be bought for that and can we use epoxy for that fix? Thank you for the video, very informative.

    • @baldeagle242
      @baldeagle242  9 місяців тому

      @williamsantiago7303 Yes, you can buy a kit with a plug in it but epoxy or even permatex gasket maker will do the trick.

    • @jimcatanzaro7808
      @jimcatanzaro7808 Місяць тому +1

      The screw is missing

  • @ParkerPPipe
    @ParkerPPipe Рік тому +2

    Is it the vibration?

    • @baldeagle242
      @baldeagle242  Рік тому +2

      Vibration is generally a balance issue or something bent.

  • @dgriffin6074
    @dgriffin6074 Місяць тому +1

    Are you kidding? There's something called a "welch plug"? It's a joke, right?

  • @achilles1373
    @achilles1373 3 місяці тому +2

    Nothing a little dab of rtv wont fix.

  • @amandapayton5214
    @amandapayton5214 7 місяців тому +3

    I cleaned out my carburetor and then it started to sputter as it ran out of gas, blade running really slow. I put more gas in it and it quit. I took apart the carb again and now it wont start, im at a loss on how to get the damn thing running! Help!😢😢

    • @baldeagle242
      @baldeagle242  7 місяців тому +2

      Are you sure the gas is fresh and doesn’t have water in it?

    • @amandapayton5214
      @amandapayton5214 7 місяців тому +1

      @baldeagle242 I cleaned out the gas tank and took apart the carb and cleaned it out. Mower started fine, then started to slow down as it ran out of gas. I poured more gas into it and it leaked and wouldn't start. I took it apart again and cleaned it out, slapped it back together, no leak, but also not starting. First pul it sounded like it wanted to start and then just perking my arm out of socket to try to get it started. I've spent the past 3 days fooling with this Troy built mower. I bought it used off market place last fall because my Toro mower had a plastic piece break off the carb, so I bought a $60 used one so my grass wasn't a jungle for my small dogs. I'm beyond frustrated and stayed outside until almost 10 last night trying to fix it, which I thought I did fix it, just for it not to start today. I might be better off throwing it out in the trash and buying the part for the Toro online and waiting a week for the part to get here. It's taken my good mood down the toilet!

    • @amandapayton5214
      @amandapayton5214 7 місяців тому +1

      The gas is fresh, not even a week old

    • @baldeagle242
      @baldeagle242  7 місяців тому +2

      @@amandapayton5214 Will it fire with staring fluid or a small shot of gas directly into the carb?

    • @amandapayton5214
      @amandapayton5214 7 місяців тому +1

      I might add that fire was shooting out the exhaust while it was running, it did that when I bought it but it still worked, so I kept cutting as much grass as I could. I got the front mowed and 1/4 of the back done before it got dark and ran out of gas. I'm the last person in the neighborhood to cut their grass. Mowing grass was my first job, so I like to have my yard look nice, not like hoarders live here. Snakes are prone to my yard so I like to keep it low because my dogs roam the yard. My hands are coated with gas and other dark things and cuts from fooling with this mower along with harsh skin. I'm by myself, and I thought I could get it running as I've fixed the cmcarb on my other mower a few times. I've researched and looked at all kinds of videos, even took it apart again thinking I put something on wrong, which it was correct. I didn't want to take it to get serviced and pay more for repairs than I did for the mower itself!

  • @donaldperson948
    @donaldperson948 20 днів тому +1

    Vaccum leak!

  • @johnniec2861
    @johnniec2861 5 місяців тому +2

    is that one of those China Made aftermarket carbs ??? wouldnt surprise me

    • @baldeagle242
      @baldeagle242  5 місяців тому +1

      Negative, here’s a link to the full video. ua-cam.com/video/QtCAehETLBE/v-deo.htmlsi=dEGZ105baUv9NzFB

  • @ajt5662
    @ajt5662 Рік тому +3

    My car engine is doing that.

    • @baldeagle242
      @baldeagle242  Рік тому +2

      A vacuum leak on a car engine will do the same thing.

    • @ajt5662
      @ajt5662 Рік тому

      @@baldeagle242 What should I check over to test that? I'm new to mechanics, but being a professional driver forced me into it lol

    • @jeffw8848
      @jeffw8848 Рік тому

      ​​@@ajt5662check around intake manifold, throttle body vacuum lines, run engine and spray a little starting fluid around those areas, listen for idle to clear up. That will be the area of vacuum leak.

    • @Mike-su8si
      @Mike-su8si Рік тому +1

      It'll lose power and idle bad check for any cracks on the rubber tubes best test is to listen to how its idling if you've found the problem tube/hose

  • @jayvee962
    @jayvee962 2 місяці тому +1

    So? Now what?

    • @baldeagle242
      @baldeagle242  2 місяці тому +1

      @@jayvee962 Full video 👇
      ua-cam.com/video/QtCAehETLBE/v-deo.htmlsi=ISyqdGvv__PFB2fe

  • @MrTwinkieeater
    @MrTwinkieeater 4 місяці тому +1

    Clogged idle jets/passages. Small engine repair 201

    • @baldeagle242
      @baldeagle242  4 місяці тому +1

      Not this time. Someone didn’t watch till the end of the video. 😔

  • @ChristopherBenor-gv5ob
    @ChristopherBenor-gv5ob Рік тому +2

    The air unter