E-Flite UMX Air Tractor BNF Basic with AS3X and SAFE Select - Model AV8R Announcement/Review
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- Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
- The First Ultra Micro AG Plane! In Model AV8R Episode 85, we feature E-Flite's new UMX Air Tractor! We give you all the specs and details of this brand new release in this full review. We'll cover the features in detail and put it on display with flights on 2s and 3s from different venues! This is a stable, yet very capable model...and fun to fly! Enjoy!
Model AV8R Horizon Hobby Affiliate Link: www.avantlink.com/click.php?t...
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:20 Announcement/History
00:41 Model Specs/Features/Price
02:45 Model Set Up
03:21 Flying Intro/Set Up Info Page
04:25 Flying Footage: Stall Tests
04:53 Flying Footage: 2s Sport/Acro Flight
09:19 Flying Footage: 3s Sport/Acro Flight
12:49 Flying Footage: 3s Sport/Acro From Grass/Small Field
16:56 Our Final Thoughts
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I ordered this last night. I wish I would have seen your video last night so I could have supported your page. I'm getting back in the hobby after almost 20 years. So much has changed!!
We appreciate that...next time. Have fun with it, great plane!
Never been a fan of EPS beer-cooler foam planes and proprietary E-flite stuff is just too expensive for what you get (spectacularly so if you live outside the US!) but this reviewer certainly is a welcome change from the usual "Infomercial" UA-camrs. Whether you are a fan of the product or not, you certainly get an informed view of its capabilities.
For a really capable EPS Air Tractor Thomas Buchwald's DIY designs probably match this though. 😉😊
I love mine so far too! Once the weather clears, mine will be in the air 😎
A virtually flawless one wheel touch & go with a low wing tail dragger UMX?
Horizon should be straight up paying you to fly promo footage for them!
Excellent video work, as well!
Thank you Tony! Great little flyer!
Adam and Heidi great review of a fantastic Ultra Mighty Air Tractor. Way to go HH. Jeff in LA USA
Thanks Jeff!
Looks fun, and a very interesting choice for a UMX model. Like many here, my first thought was 'whoa... a low wing UMX Turbo Timber'! I'd love to see what HH can do if they max-out the UMX concept to 250g 🤔🙂
Hehe, my thought too, what can they do up to 250gr.
It is fun and different Gina. They are getting close, matter of time before we see a twin or something that is right there at 8oz.
Adam. Such a joy to watch you fly. Putting this one through it paces scale and not so scale. Another big hit I see coming for Horizon. 👊😉
Thanks brother Brad! Good lil plane this one!
@@ModelAV8RChannel Yes it tis.
I like the lights showing when you have the dark trees in the background. It must look great at night. Thanks for a great video. And it flies off the grass! I wondered how it would do on grass. Your video answers a lot of questions people would ask about that plane. You have a lot of experience, and your videos show it. I like the fact that the battery packs work in this model and my Voodoo model. There are a lot of UMX park flyers that take the same batteries. Flying at parks is so cool. I can travel 10 minutes to a park that has a group of people flying park flyers. Otherwise, to fly my larger nitro planes I have to travel about 30 minutes out to a field that is AMA sanctioned by FAA to fly RC planes without the transponder in the plane. This type of plane will help many people get into the hobby and learn to fly at a park. Spektrum technology SAFE and AS3X will help people getting into the park flyer hobby. Thanks again. Great video and your other videos are great too!
Thanks very much! Glad you are enjoying the channel. I agree the UMX stuff is great!
Thanks Adam, great video and great information on the UMX Air Tractor. I had the 1.5m Air Tractor and it was a well behaved gentle plane that I sold to a father and son for their first low wing and it was perfect. This looks to be a little sportier and a lot of fun.
Thank you Tony! It is fun! My first AG plane.
I have about a dozen of this type modern planes from small gliders to pattern ships, have flown them right into a palm tree, picked them up and flown hand launch immediately with no discernable damage! These new foam jobs are true Ready to Fly, not almost ready, they are RTF.
Yep, they are ready to go, and tough!
I have the Night Pawnee, the original Air Tractor and LOVE flying it. As soon as I saw the release of this plane, I placed my order for one. They are very stable planes and an outright joy to fly. You can challenge your skills with the Air Tractor or just joy ride around the sky.
I agree! Very versatile plane.
You make it look so easy.
Love it. I'll learn someday🙂
Thanks man!
Thank you for adding back in Stalls. A must for any airplane, R.C. or General Aviation. I love this plane, ordered mine and will fly it more than my 1.3 I am sure.
You'll enjoy it !
Ohhh nooo another one for my bucket list and it will look good with my big air tractor 😀👍👍
Lol...I know right!
Excellent, as usual, Adam! I definitely need one of these! 😁
Thanks Joel! Yes...you do!
Adam, put my order in via your links today. Looking forward to flying this bird! Keep up the great reviews and information you provide!
Thank you so much man! We appreciate the support! You will enjoy it, great lil crop duster!
Great video and flight with the Micro Air Tractor!
Thanks Mark!
Thanks for your reply and honest reviews. I will just have to wait until the waco restocks. Keep up the great work and Merry Christmas.
Thanks for supporting us, and have a Merry Christmas! You'll love the Waco.
Awesome Presentation.
Thank you !
Thank you Danny!
What a great little flyer mate. I saw the HH release & loved the fly thru the hangar past the real aircraft. A wonderful review indeed.🇦🇺🇺🇸👍
Thank Noel! Solid flyer this one!
So cute😊
Those umx's sure looks awesome
It is. Lol. Amazing the detail at this size.
Adam another great review cant wait to get mine.
Thanks man!
great vid; nice flying...👍
Thanks man!
Great vid , your vid is the first I watched for this plane
Thanks man!
Great review Adam!
Thanks man!
Great review and great flying Adam!! Unfortunately the Air Tractor is just not a plane that appeals to me, just like the T28 Trojan. I suppose as pilots there will always be planes that just don't do it for us!! Great filming and editing Heidi 😀👍
Thanks Ian! It is a great airplane, but I get it...crop-dusters are a little different genre wise. I will say this...if you see one in action over a field it is pretty impressive. I do love your trusty Maule...
I have the Night Pawnee and it is a total Joy to fly as is the UMX Turbo Timber. You are truly missing out friend.
This is amazing, if I manage to purchase a plane this will be the one. Transmitters are a little pricy, I am used to the cheap ones of rc cars ^^
They can be expensive. One piece of advise - you know how when you got into cars a little TX went a long way, but then as you progressed and wanted more cars and more programming capability you ended up getting a better, more expensive TX? Same thing happens with planes if you get into it. Instead of buying two or three TX's to end up with the one you actually needed, get a good one right off the bat so you only have to buy that one. 8 channel minimum. Trust me. Bigger hit to the wallet now, but less in the long run than if you have to upgrade when you realize that simple 6 ch. you bought to save money isn't enough.
I guess I might as well put some coffee on while I wait for the order link to go live. I grew up on a farm and have always enjoyed seeing the crop dusters working.
Great little flyer Dan. Our link is just a link to Horizon for now. Our video officially goes public at 11am eastern (It is private now, but you have access through Jason's RCG thread). Unfortunately I'll be at work then, so it will be a little bit later before I can change the link to a direct one to the UMX Air Tractor. That said if you go through the link we provided and look it up, we still get credit for that. Thanks man, we really appreciate it! You'll enjoy it!
@@ModelAV8RChannel Awesome. I always come back after the videos go public just to make sure the view gets counted.
Hey Dan, thanks buddy. I thought you meant our affiliate link. Lol.
@@ModelAV8RChannel Oh, I do use your link as well. I just have to copy and paste it from my normal browser to chrome.
Gothca Dan. Thanks so much for all your support! We appreciate it so much!
Thanks for the stalls.
Great video, it’s on my wish list.
Thanks Randy...great little airplane.
Well flown but!
I would have liked to have seen both the 2 and 3 s in a pure vertical flight as a comparison and the other thing is a heap of flyers buy the umx to fly because of space restrictions so some stol work would have been good to see.
Noted Noel, thanks! For what its worth the last landing on 2s and the landing on the grass on 3s are as short as it gets with this one, and that is pretty short. While I didn't do it on camera, as with the majority of rc planes if you just "punch n go", the UMX Air Tractor will be off the ground in a couple of plane lengths. STOL is not a problem, and you saw the slow flight and slow turns. It can be flown in a tight space as with most ultra micros. As for the vertical we'll make it obvious on the next one!
on sale now just bought one
Dammit! I spent so much time and money and sweat and tears modifying my 1.5m AT to AT502 spec with a scale working spray system and dump pod and even a seeder attachment and tons of scale detailing - now I have to do it all over again on a smaller scale!! This one is begging to become the AT802U Defender in matte grey with ordnance
Lol...another project!
that thing is SWEEEET brother!!!
Thanks Joel!
Great flying! You made this look like a much larger airplane. Looks like another umx I’m going to have to pick up 😩. I seem to fly these little ones much more often than my bigger birds.
Thanks Travis! Yeah man they are so easy to transport, etc.
Can I ask, between this and the TTevo UMX, which is more comfortable to fly in smaller spaces? Looks like the tractor might like a little more power on landings and maybe not able to float in as much as the timber.
@Travis Jacobus Travis, they both get pretty slow, but the TTE will fly a bit slower.
Thanks .Your the best
You're welcome!
Fantastic video Adam, as always. Thanks for all the great info👊🏼
Thanks Jeff!
I really wish you would start to show how to radio setup these planes. I know of only person on you tube that shows it but he tends to get side tracked to often.
Lol. I know who you're talking about. Our set up page is always right before the flying starts in our reviews. You can see our rates, expo, balance, and a good bit more info as well, so if there is anything we did different than the manual you'll know. On this one the manual is in a new format as it relates to programming the transmitter. They have made it super easy. It is more thorough and takes you step by step...every detail. This is a good improvement, before they were written for someone very familiar with programming Spektrum. Now it is written so someone that doesn't know anything about it can do it.
Honestly, the setup of these planes has become easy and I think everyone should be able to do it in about 10 minutes, beside you don't even need the plane to do the setup, I download the manual set it up and all you need to do is BNF
I should be getting mine later today, I will do a complete setup on my NX8
I have fond memories of glider tugging in a Pawnee. Long nose out front, low wings slightly forward of the cockpit - the "poor man's Spitfire" as it was once described to me! One day I must get a Pawnee or similar but I'm not much into UMX's, nice though this one looks. I I've always fancied the 1.5m or the Extreme Flight versions though! If I had one, I'd be lopping off the battery connector and just going XT30/XT60 as I don't like battery adapter leads and really dislike JST. Another great review; keep up the hard work!
Thanks man! Yeah the AG planes are work horses. I've been up in a glider two times. First one was towed up by a Super Cub (150 horse) and the second by a 300hp Pawnee Brave...what a difference!
@@ModelAV8RChannel The one I flew was 235hp. Behind a 300hp Parwnee must be like being on a winch launch xD
Pretty darn interesting!
Thanks Adam. Great review - as usual. The burning question for me is if you could only have one would it be this or the TT Evo. I just watched both reviews back to back and it sure looked to me that you had more fun with the TT.
Thanks Steve! So, to be fair we had more time, and better wx to fly the TTE. The circumstances were not in our favor with the AT. We had a lot of rain, and when we had good wx, there was not as much time to do all the things we wanted to with it. Sometimes it's tough getting opportunities when you're flying something unreleased and you can't let anyone see it. I did enjoy flying the Air Tractor. It is a good, honest airframe and a lot of fun.
So...that said, I'm a bush plane guy. They are one of my favorite genres and I own several from the UMX TTE to a 20lb 1/4 scale Super Cub. You can bush fly the Air Tractor a little bit, but the bigger wheels and gear on the TTE are better suited for that. Both planes are equally aerobatic and powerful on 3s. Both are stable and predictable. Both have an awesome set of lights. The TTE will fly slower than the Air Tractor, but both can land and stop very quickly. The bottom line is I think a person will be happy with either one depending on their personal taste. To answer your question though, because I'm such a bush plane fan, the TTE would be my pick of the two if I had to pick. I like the "both" option! Lol.
Thanks for the thorough reply Adam. I love Bush planes myself. The first one I saw in person was at the landing strip in Wiseman Alaska. I could not stop checking it out and I am leaning toward the TT (UMX and standard) for that reason. However, I love the color scheme, clear canopy and Pilot on the AT. Pretty cool for a UMX. I will be reconnoitering a new field up north in a few weeks. That will help with my choice.
Correction…the airfield was in Cold Foot which is just south of Wiseman. You can see the airstrip on Google maps.
It's beautiful
Thanks man!
Great review Adam. Seems like a fun toy to beat around and do some fun challenges... Thanks for your efforts.. Will
Thanks Will! It is a fun one!
I don't hate it on 3S. Great job!
Thanks buddy!
Aloha, my brother, your flying is next level. If you ever have time, could you do a video on or talk about your runway? I'm trying to get one together. And I think I wanna do one like yours anyway. You have a wonderful day.
Thanks man! The runway at this field and our new one is a Geo-Textile fabric. Our club president is a contractor, and brought in some heavy(ish) equipment to grade the land and remove the grass, then he used one of those heavy rollers to flatten and compact the dirt several times. The Geo is then rolled out and you use Large U shaped stakes to hold it down.
@ModelAV8RChannel Thank you so much. It really means a lot. We're trying to do something here for us. And our boys, we've been flying off of grass which is not a problem, but our jets are getting damaged on landing. Really appreciate it... big Aloha. From the Islands, you're always welcome if you come this way. Thanks, bradda
Hope whatever you fellas decide it works well for you, happy flying my friend!
Have you ever used a portable runway? I'm thinking of something about 6' wide by 15-20' long maybe nice to take to a field.@@ModelAV8RChannel
Can you squeeze a 3s 800 in there and still get good flight? I have 3s800 for my blade 180. I really don’t want to buy more batteries.
Rocky I think it would be really nose heavy with that pack. We had our 300's pretty far back as it is. The Spektrum 300's are reasonably inexpensive at $14.99, and you can use them in several UMX planes available now...and many more to come.
@@ModelAV8RChannel it’s not the price that concerns me. It’s the quantity that I already have. Lol. I got tooooo many batteries
@@pstarxxx78 Lol...I hear ya, me too. Thankfully these are tiny...
Orsum information as expected from you Adam. Flights always slick and cool. 🫡
Thank you brother Chris!
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Hi Adam and Heidi. Would you recommend the throttle curve you did on the UMX TTE for this plane as well? 3S does have quite a bit more power as you mention. I've had a few crashes with it (call it Mr McGlue) but it still flies great. It was my first plane after my 400mm Volantex/eachine warbirds.
I don't use a throttle curve on this one, but it is a preference thing. If it is too sensitive to throttle inputs to you, a throttle curve could help that.
Might be a stupid question because it's such a small diameter propeller but would it be suggested to check the prop balance?
Nice video - slip passes ARE cool - thank you.
Thanks! Yep, gotta love a good slip. It's funny, some of these UMX planes make a good bit of noise, and I've balanced the props. Not sure what it is, but some are quiet as all get out, and some aren't. The new Timber EVO, quiet. This one and the Pitts...not so much.
Great Informatiom .Got a question .On the Dual Rate and Exp ? The manuel say to use channel F for the Alerions dual rates .Why Is that ?
Thanks Mike. I think the manual tries to be specific for newer, less confident pilots (less confident programming the TX). You can assign rates/expo to what ever switch you like. Its fine to put them all on the same switch or to put each surface on a separate switch. Whatever you prefer.
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Q: when manual centering your servos what flight mode should u be in, safe, intermediate or advanced ?
AS3X mode, or advanced. It is essential to do this with the UMX planes especially. If the trim is way out electronically that will have an adverse affect on how SAFE corrects.
Adam if you had to choose between the umx air tractor and the umx waco for performance and durability which one would you recommend? MERRY CHRISTMAS 🎅
Jon I prefer the Waco. It has a bit lighter wing loading. To be fair part of that is that I'm not personally an Ag plane guy, but I love classic biplanes. They both fly well enough that whichever one is your type of plane you'll enjoy either one. Durability is probably similar, but I don't really know for sure. I haven't had any incidents with them yet ( I hope I don't! Lol).
Adam, seems like the landing gear are pretty tough for various surfaces - would you agree? Great flying BTW!
Thanks man! Yeah they are pretty tough...actually tiny aluminum gear!
Model Airplanes don't Require Gasoline Guitars 🎸 but I can always turn down the Volume. I HAVE TO!
I have some 3 cell 370 packs. Would they be too heavy and big ?
They should fit, going to be a bit nose heavy, but probably will still fly fine.
Umx turbo timber evolution vs this umx air tractor?
Whats your favorite of the 2? I can t deside 😊
UMX Timber EVO for me.
What is the largest 2 cell pack I could use ?
John I'm actually not sure. I know I've heard of folks using 450mah packs in it, and you may be able to go bigger. It is a good size battery bay for an ultra micro. That said...I always prefer the UMX stuff as light as I can fly them. Grams count a lot at this size.
@ModelAV8RChannel thank you and happy 4th of July
Adam what eflite umx is your favorite??
The Pitts. AWESOME little bird. Close second...UMX Waco.