I trained in the late 70's in 152's and occasionally 150's. After I got my PPL, I got checked out in a Tomahawk. Only flew it one time. I prefer the shade. But I did get my instrument rating in PA-28-181. But when it came time to buy an airplane, I got a 1960 Cessna 150. Great little plane with the manual flaps like the Cherokee's.
Well, in my country (Denmark) I can't seem to remember a time where I saw a Piper. It's always a Cessna. I remember my grandfather saying: "There goes a Skejby fighter" of a Cessna. That was a humorous saying of his, the local small airfield were in Skejby 5 kilometres from his house. It was always a Cessna.
Nice discussion. I agree with your good & bad for each. Did initial training in the 150, taught my way through college in the PA-28 and was with the airlines before the traumahawk came out. Cessna just felt better to me but haven't flown GA in over 40 years, so what do I know! Thanks for the memory lane video!
I prefer the 172 as it has a high wing and you can easily see the ground. Very useful when you're dropping off your breakfast in bag after doing some steep turns under a hot Florida sun. Look out below!
Training in the pa-28-181 , in Florida as well…after pre flight all I can think about is getting those vent fans turned on lol it’s extremely brutal heat
I did all of my PPL and IFR training in a 172. I JUST finally flew a PA-28. To me they fly fairly similarly as you'd expect. Landing sight picture is a tiny bit different. Main differences to me are that in the PA-28, preflight on the ground is harder. You don't realize how easy a 172 is, until you preflight a low wing. The single door is also inconvenient. Getting two people in and out of it with your flight bags isn't super hard, but compared to the ease of a 172, it seems like a total PITA and would seem to add more wear and tear on the interior. I was flying in actual, so I didn't get to experience the improved visibility in turns, but I imagine that is a genuine advantage in VFR. I still prefer the downward visibility of the 172 though. Oh... and the sun sucks. It was overcast and a fairly mild day, and that cockpit still got hot quickly. Way easier to just open a couple windows on the 172. Gotta say I prefer the high wing, but I'm going to fly the PA-28 some more just to get used to it.
@@Pilotsandpropwash-me6vqnot quick on feathering a failed engine in a twin or get a twin into a spin, and you will quickly wish you were flying a single engine.
Honestly I have a big hang up on Piper's only having one door to enter/exit the cockpit. On top of that it's on the passenger side. If you're by yourself or with another pilot I don't think it's too bad but if you with someone not familiar with airplanes (especially the two latches on the door) you can be in some real trouble.
@@maxsmodels In that case what are your thoughts on the Musketeer/Sundowner series from Beech? While I'm at it I should ask if you've flown their Skipper and how it compares to the Tomahawk
When you land off field in a Piper and flip over your dead, even worse on fire. You’re not going to get out of a Piper “upside down” because the upper door latch is always jammed against the ground and no one is going to be able to turn it to rescue you. Your done. All the kiddies that just want to fly have no idea what a coffin the Cherokee aircraft are, not to mention the very poor wing spar in all those aircraft. Just bad, very bad.
I trained in the late 70's in 152's and occasionally 150's. After I got my PPL, I got checked out in a Tomahawk. Only flew it one time. I prefer the shade. But I did get my instrument rating in PA-28-181. But when it came time to buy an airplane, I got a 1960 Cessna 150. Great little plane with the manual flaps like the Cherokee's.
Well, in my country (Denmark) I can't seem to remember a time where I saw a Piper. It's always a Cessna. I remember my grandfather saying: "There goes a Skejby fighter" of a Cessna. That was a humorous saying of his, the local small airfield were in Skejby 5 kilometres from his house. It was always a Cessna.
Nice discussion. I agree with your good & bad for each. Did initial training in the 150, taught my way through college in the PA-28 and was with the airlines before the traumahawk came out. Cessna just felt better to me but haven't flown GA in over 40 years, so what do I know! Thanks for the memory lane video!
I prefer the 172 as it has a high wing and you can easily see the ground. Very useful when you're dropping off your breakfast in bag after doing some steep turns under a hot Florida sun. Look out below!
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Always thought the Cardinal was a sweet aircraft but never had a chance to fly one. The 172 was nice to fly but I didn't like the electric flaps.
Interested to see what the comparisons are. I'm a student pilot training on Archers currently.
great plane
Training in the pa-28-181 , in Florida as well…after pre flight all I can think about is getting those vent fans turned on lol it’s extremely brutal heat
I did all of my PPL and IFR training in a 172. I JUST finally flew a PA-28. To me they fly fairly similarly as you'd expect. Landing sight picture is a tiny bit different. Main differences to me are that in the PA-28, preflight on the ground is harder. You don't realize how easy a 172 is, until you preflight a low wing. The single door is also inconvenient. Getting two people in and out of it with your flight bags isn't super hard, but compared to the ease of a 172, it seems like a total PITA and would seem to add more wear and tear on the interior. I was flying in actual, so I didn't get to experience the improved visibility in turns, but I imagine that is a genuine advantage in VFR. I still prefer the downward visibility of the 172 though. Oh... and the sun sucks. It was overcast and a fairly mild day, and that cockpit still got hot quickly. Way easier to just open a couple windows on the 172. Gotta say I prefer the high wing, but I'm going to fly the PA-28 some more just to get used to it.
Not a pilot but if I was, I would want a two engine plane.
that has its merits
@@Pilotsandpropwash-me6vqnot quick on feathering a failed engine in a twin or get a twin into a spin, and you will quickly wish you were flying a single engine.
Honestly I have a big hang up on Piper's only having one door to enter/exit the cockpit. On top of that it's on the passenger side. If you're by yourself or with another pilot I don't think it's too bad but if you with someone not familiar with airplanes (especially the two latches on the door) you can be in some real trouble.
me too
@@maxsmodels In that case what are your thoughts on the Musketeer/Sundowner series from Beech? While I'm at it I should ask if you've flown their Skipper and how it compares to the Tomahawk
When you land off field in a Piper and flip over your dead, even worse on fire. You’re not going to get out of a Piper “upside down” because the upper door latch is always jammed against the ground and no one is going to be able to turn it to rescue you. Your done. All the kiddies that just want to fly have no idea what a coffin the Cherokee aircraft are, not to mention the very poor wing spar in all those aircraft. Just bad, very bad.
OK, I never even thought about that 😮.