At least in Final Cut, the levels are about the same, but I think the effect is caused by me switching to a different mic. I think one is more bass-heavy than the other, so if you have bass-heavy speakers, one mic might sound louder.
@@TonyAndChelsea well i'd suggest to not look at the levels in final cut hah. I'm using a pair of sudio headphones with a mostly flat curve and the sound is all over the place (Beyerdynamic DT1770 Pro).
If sounds like some doubling of FCP audio filters at places… it’s fine, but not to your usual standards… I always appreciate you and Chelsea work hard to get things done and overlook small things like this… I think for these types of videos getting it done and out is more important than a perfection in production that no one really cares too much about.
I know a couple of people have already chimed in, but the audio levels are all over the place. Heavy clipping in some sections and barely audible in others. Have you considered a switch to Davinci Resolve? The fairlight audio tools are incredible and the cut page with speed editor saves a TON of time.
@@Visual_Ghoul For travel, the 20-70 is definitely better. However, that extra stop of light can come in handy if you are shooting indoors or in the evening.
It's not really talked about anywhere, but this lens has two "specifically optimized" Linear Motors, not the XD Linear motors. That said, I haven't ever seen AF side-by-side between the two types of linear motors. They do say this is compatible for the A9 III at 120fps, so I'm a bit confused. Does "specifically optimized" mean better than XD or worse?
Wouldn't the Sony 20-70 f4 be a better comparison as travel/landscape option. You don't really need f2.8 in 99.9% of situations for that type of photography
Hey, do you want to do a video about how Samsung is faking RAW support on their current phone, ProMode dng and jpg are the same thing, while a third-party app dng can actually recover highlights and shadows.
Hi Chelsea and Tony - Hope all is well. What insurance do you have for your camera gears for drop and spill and for stolen/theft when you travel internationally?
Thanks for the video. I’m not comparing the new 24-50/2.8 G to the 24-70/2.8 GM II I already own but to the 24/2.8, 40/2.5, and 50/2.5 G small trinity. I think I would rather the single small zoom that also includes 28, 35, and 40mm which will cost about the same or a little more. What are your thoughts here. Any you wish to share? Also see that the Zeiss Batis 25/2, 40/2, 85/1.8 are great and each is lighter, but not smaller, than this lens. If I get this in my travel kit I might use the 24-50/2.8 G with the 20/1.8 G and Batis 85/1.8. This would all be on my A7CR. Take care.
For travel on the a7c bodies what do you think of the Tamron 28-200 F/2.8-5.6 Di III? It’s 4.6” long and starts at 2.8. I find in landscape the mountain vista or rock formations might be too far for a 50mm.
I got one on a A7III and I think it is the lens for travel. Sharp out to 200mm and f2.8 at 28mm is really usable for a lot of evening/indoors low light situations. Realistically speaking, when traveling I am not hunting for the biggest bokeh, I want to get safe, sharp, shots at the right focal length, without annoying my family because I walk all over the place to get the right framing.
I'll do it for them: Tamron has 4mm on the wider end, which is great for architecture. The Tamron costs less. The Sony has additional 10mm on the tele end, which can be useful for portraits. The Sony is probably a little sharper and probably focuses a little bit faster. Done.
I wish Sony introduced either 20-50mm F2.8 or 24-50mm F2.0 even with the size and weight increase. I don't see a reason buy this Sony 24-50mm 2.8 over Tamron 20-40mm 2.8.
As a painter, I am looking to upgrade my camera & lens combo to photograph my art for prints. Prints are 90% of my revenue. I usually stitch together 75+ images to create my high resolution art prints but the images are soft. To document 1 painting it takes 2+ days of stitching. Binge watching your videos - it looks like the Sony a7rc with a Sony 24-70mm f/2.8 GM II will give me superb detail in my painting photos for prints. And since my other use for a camera is shooting in the rainforest, will give me the best durability/weatherproof for foggy forest & sunshine photos. The price tag really hurts... but it is exactly what my needs are. Each time I try to find a cheaper lens combo - the price tag adds up to the 24-70 GM II. 🤔🤔 This video shows the incredible detail captured by this lens in the print example. Am I missing an option?
Very new photographer here. I got a great deal on a used Canon EOS SL3 body only. Would anyone have a recommendation for a good all purpose first lens? I realize this may be completely subjective.
a good objective for the trip and that's it. It is not very wide and has 2.8 and for a portrait it is cabbage, it looks as if they were taken with the phone 0 bokeh.
Overall performance doesnt seem that great tbh especially the sharpness...YTubers trying to cover up its shortcomings in a nice way... one video even mentioned is good not to have lens that is too sharp
I wish Sony would stop mucking about. 24-50mm is a useless range for video work. Meanwhile, the 24-70mm GM II isn't parfocal so is useless for filming actuality or observationally. The 20-70mm is parfocal but it's f4 so harder to match up in multi camera set ups with f2.8 lenses and being able to reduce the depth or field as much as possible is really helpful. So, come on Sony, please give us a full frame zoom with a good range like 20-70...20-100 (ish) would be better...that is F2.8, or even F2.0, and parfocal!
So disappointed that this isn’t 20-50! It’s a great kit lens, but it doesn’t fit into the ecosystem for pros IMO. If that’s unfair, at minimum, it doesn’t add anything to the ecosystem besides a budget friendly option; the issue is the 20-40 Tamron, and other 3rd party options that have more value in that they are still cheaper with more range.
@@nightdonutstudio true but unless youre using a smaller camera like an A7CR, it makes no sense to buy this inferior lens, this lens is inferior in every single way except for weight and the fact that you can shoot at full burst speed since its a Sony lens.
@@alyousuf"smaller camera" except for the viewfinder they are standard size. It's not like an a7 RV ist vastly bigger.. the 24 -70 is way bigger though. You might but comprehend that compactnes is very important to some
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the audio goes really loud and quiet in loads of scenes , for example skip to 5:14 and listen
At least in Final Cut, the levels are about the same, but I think the effect is caused by me switching to a different mic. I think one is more bass-heavy than the other, so if you have bass-heavy speakers, one mic might sound louder.
@@TonyAndChelsea well i'd suggest to not look at the levels in final cut hah. I'm using a pair of sudio headphones with a mostly flat curve and the sound is all over the place (Beyerdynamic DT1770 Pro).
If sounds like some doubling of FCP audio filters at places… it’s fine, but not to your usual standards… I always appreciate you and Chelsea work hard to get things done and overlook small things like this… I think for these types of videos getting it done and out is more important than a perfection in production that no one really cares too much about.
If Final Cut can't indicate heavily clipping audio, you should use something else! It stopped me watching halfway through the video@@TonyAndChelsea
I know a couple of people have already chimed in, but the audio levels are all over the place. Heavy clipping in some sections and barely audible in others. Have you considered a switch to Davinci Resolve? The fairlight audio tools are incredible and the cut page with speed editor saves a TON of time.
Surprised you didn't bring up Sony's 20-70mm F4 G from last year as a possible alternative for travel
The way to promote new products is to make sure people aren't aware of better alternatives.
@@Visual_Ghoul For travel, the 20-70 is definitely better. However, that extra stop of light can come in handy if you are shooting indoors or in the evening.
It's not really talked about anywhere, but this lens has two "specifically optimized" Linear Motors, not the XD Linear motors. That said, I haven't ever seen AF side-by-side between the two types of linear motors. They do say this is compatible for the A9 III at 120fps, so I'm a bit confused. Does "specifically optimized" mean better than XD or worse?
Thought youd compare with the 20-70mm 🙂
Well 2 minutes in and weather seal makes my decision. Thanks
Wouldn't the Sony 20-70 f4 be a better comparison as travel/landscape option. You don't really need f2.8 in 99.9% of situations for that type of photography
I agree! None of the reviews today seem to be comparing these two lenses so I wonder if Sony specifically told reviewers not to?
They didn't tell us not to compare it to anything in particular. We just compared it to the lens we use most often.
Similar size and weight. Maybe pick f2.8 for relative low light and f4 for daylight. More lens more options.
Yeah I wanted comparison with the 20-70 f4 =/
Hey, do you want to do a video about how Samsung is faking RAW support on their current phone, ProMode dng and jpg are the same thing, while a third-party app dng can actually recover highlights and shadows.
In your opinion, would the size and weight of Sony 24-70mm GM II be workable on the Sony A7CR?
Hi Chelsea and Tony - Hope all is well. What insurance do you have for your camera gears for drop and spill and for stolen/theft when you travel internationally?
Makes sense to buy this lens if I have the 35 1.4? Doubts and more doubts.... my other lenses are loxia 21 and 70-200gmII
Thanks for the video. I’m not comparing the new 24-50/2.8 G to the 24-70/2.8 GM II I already own but to the 24/2.8, 40/2.5, and 50/2.5 G small trinity. I think I would rather the single small zoom that also includes 28, 35, and 40mm which will cost about the same or a little more. What are your thoughts here. Any you wish to share? Also see that the Zeiss Batis 25/2, 40/2, 85/1.8 are great and each is lighter, but not smaller, than this lens. If I get this in my travel kit I might use the 24-50/2.8 G with the 20/1.8 G and Batis 85/1.8. This would all be on my A7CR. Take care.
Agree, the Tamron 20-40 2.8 seems a better alternative when using Sony active stabilisation.
It's not wider. Since it is shorter. it is physically further away :)
For travel on the a7c bodies what do you think of the Tamron 28-200 F/2.8-5.6 Di III? It’s 4.6” long and starts at 2.8. I find in landscape the mountain vista or rock formations might be too far for a 50mm.
I got one on a A7III and I think it is the lens for travel. Sharp out to 200mm and f2.8 at 28mm is really usable for a lot of evening/indoors low light situations.
Realistically speaking, when traveling I am not hunting for the biggest bokeh, I want to get safe, sharp, shots at the right focal length, without annoying my family because I walk all over the place to get the right framing.
I love it to be honest great lens. Light enough and sharp enough with these cameras for any trip. The 35 - 150 was just too heavy for me.
Please compare to Tamron 20-40mm f2.8, thanks
I'll do it for them: Tamron has 4mm on the wider end, which is great for architecture. The Tamron costs less. The Sony has additional 10mm on the tele end, which can be useful for portraits. The Sony is probably a little sharper and probably focuses a little bit faster. Done.
9:08 That’s so strange. Is this a Sony only thing?
All Sony sensors, including those used by Nikon, Panasonic, etc. Canon's PDAF tech doesn't seem to have the same problem.
@@TonyAndChelsea interesting!
Which adapter do you have attached, Tony? @TonyAndChelsea
I wish Sony introduced either 20-50mm F2.8 or 24-50mm F2.0 even with the size and weight increase. I don't see a reason buy this Sony 24-50mm 2.8 over Tamron 20-40mm 2.8.
where's the Nikon ZF review Northrup!
All hail the holy trinity! Thy superiority still reins supreme! 🤪
Please, compare this to the compact trio 28 f/2.8, 40 f/2.5, and 50 f/2.5
Not 28 f/2.8 but 24 f/2.8😉
@@didierdelobel8663 you right, but they never did
Cannot wait until Sony makes a 28-30mm f/2,8 lens. Even more useable than this one.
Thanks for this
As a painter, I am looking to upgrade my camera & lens combo to photograph my art for prints. Prints are 90% of my revenue. I usually stitch together 75+ images to create my high resolution art prints but the images are soft. To document 1 painting it takes 2+ days of stitching. Binge watching your videos - it looks like the Sony a7rc with a Sony 24-70mm f/2.8 GM II will give me superb detail in my painting photos for prints. And since my other use for a camera is shooting in the rainforest, will give me the best durability/weatherproof for foggy forest & sunshine photos. The price tag really hurts... but it is exactly what my needs are. Each time I try to find a cheaper lens combo - the price tag adds up to the 24-70 GM II. 🤔🤔 This video shows the incredible detail captured by this lens in the print example. Am I missing an option?
If it was f2 you could say it was ok for events, you would take a portrait.
FYI discount code doenst work with Lecia
Ugh, sorry.
These days I'm looking for light weight and high image quality. But, I don't think this lens will find a place in my bag.
Very new photographer here. I got a great deal on a used Canon EOS SL3 body only. Would anyone have a recommendation for a good all purpose first lens? I realize this may be completely subjective.
a good objective for the trip and that's it. It is not very wide and has 2.8 and for a portrait it is cabbage, it looks as if they were taken with the phone 0 bokeh.
Overall performance doesnt seem that great tbh especially the sharpness...YTubers trying to cover up its shortcomings in a nice way... one video even mentioned is good not to have lens that is too sharp
Hey i live close to El Yunque, in Luquillo Beach. Hope you like my island 😊.
this video made me not like the DJI mics lol I will buy the Rode Pro lol
Clipping while using float32! I’d say the issue was in editing not with the DJI mics…
LOL indeed.
I wish Sony would stop mucking about. 24-50mm is a useless range for video work. Meanwhile, the 24-70mm GM II isn't parfocal so is useless for filming actuality or observationally. The 20-70mm is parfocal but it's f4 so harder to match up in multi camera set ups with f2.8 lenses and being able to reduce the depth or field as much as possible is really helpful. So, come on Sony, please give us a full frame zoom with a good range like 20-70...20-100 (ish) would be better...that is F2.8, or even F2.0, and parfocal!
ah sony lend you that A7Cr, that's why you're not using your A7RV.
So disappointed that this isn’t 20-50! It’s a great kit lens, but it doesn’t fit into the ecosystem for pros IMO. If that’s unfair, at minimum, it doesn’t add anything to the ecosystem besides a budget friendly option; the issue is the 20-40 Tamron, and other 3rd party options that have more value in that they are still cheaper with more range.
Yeah I really missed having 20mm.
I would like all my lens be Sony brand. So more Sony lens are welcoming.
The best travel SONY lens for me is the 16-35 G f4 because it's sharp and I can crop a lot on the A7R5
ive got that, but just dont know whether to add the 20-70 or 24-50.....
@@jukeboxjohnnieno, add a fast prime
The lens should have been at 24mm when compact. That will deter me from buying it
Agree. Sony should've made this 20-50 f2.8 instead. They dropped the ball.
Yes👌 and for 250$ and hyper smal 🙄
I dont see a purpose for this lens for me.
If you want the sony 24-50 G, then buy the Sigma 24-70 instead.....
Literally double the weight of 24-50....Totally different use case.
@@nightdonutstudio true but unless youre using a smaller camera like an A7CR, it makes no sense to buy this inferior lens, this lens is inferior in every single way except for weight and the fact that you can shoot at full burst speed since its a Sony lens.
@@alyousuf"smaller camera" except for the viewfinder they are standard size. It's not like an a7 RV ist vastly bigger.. the 24 -70 is way bigger though. You might but comprehend that compactnes is very important to some