The Coming AI Startup Bust

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  • Опубліковано 24 жов 2024

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  • @jorgeroman2058
    @jorgeroman2058 9 годин тому +41

    More like an LLM bubble, unluckily now AI is synonym of LLM , we have a lot of AI and machine learning models doing more specific tasks from a few years now, for instance defect detection on chip manufacturing.

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 9 годин тому +3

      This. Even in these comments you see ppl conflating the two. The ML technology is far more important than just chatbots.

    • @MisakaMikotoDesu
      @MisakaMikotoDesu 9 годин тому +3

      It's definitely not just LLMs. Look at self driving, medical AI, landlord price fixing AI, etc.
      LLMs are in the limelight, but people have been using the "AI" buzzword for anything ML for years now.

    • @danharold3087
      @danharold3087 9 годин тому +1

      We had Rule Based Expertsystems doing useful work in the 80s. The iphone is stuffed with AI systems. Yes it is very sad that people say AI when they should be saying LLM.

    • @alainportant6412
      @alainportant6412 9 годин тому

      like blockchain was synonym of crypto... youse a smartass nicca ☝🏿☝🏿

    • @douglascodes
      @douglascodes 9 годин тому

      Yup, they blew their load making hallucinating chatbots into the face of a really deep scientific field to make a few bucks. They won't get a second chance to make a first impression.

  • @kevinbarry71
    @kevinbarry71 9 годин тому +45

    Absolutely a bubble; and the fact that this keeps happening sheds doubt on the idea that humans are intelligent. The very idea of an AI celebrity is absurd.

    • @БеловБорис-у4щ
      @БеловБорис-у4щ 9 годин тому +1

      It’s not useless, just now one really cares about it or knows how make it useful. Now it’s a stage of “making biggest model” so best minds are focused on it. Then this approach will reach its limits or investors will be not so happy about it best minds will refocus on utilizing models. Then we will see real impact of AI.

    • @ChristianDoretti
      @ChristianDoretti 9 годин тому +1

      Well, Humans are complex, but not what you would call intelligent, humanity and its concepts are indeed a summary of an intelligent civilization.

    • @thomasfalcon6350
      @thomasfalcon6350 9 годин тому

      Blame the money printing by governments, this is the only thing that fuels bubbles.

    • @Onii-chan_2465
      @Onii-chan_2465 9 годин тому

      The idea of it being absurd is a social construction which you are aware of but refuse to accept within your worldview. It is the very same social construction which others embrace that makes the idiocy possible.... I dont disagree with you though, it's absurd. There's certain things about us as human being that we are better off leaving a mystery.

    • @2CSST2
      @2CSST2 9 годин тому

      Yes it does show that humans are not very intelligent because we have plenty of braindead people like you who think something is absurd right up until it exists, showing their total lack of foresight. People like you used to think the idea of everyone carrying small computers with them was absurd, that would be cellphones now. What about the fact we fly people all around the world? You can speak almost instantly to someone on the other side of the world. If something is physically possible and technologically within reach, it will happen. Yet with all this the most obvious thing that WILL definitely happen like an AI celebrity is apparently beyond your puny tiny little imagination. Jesus this is sad.

  • @AvenEngineer
    @AvenEngineer 9 годин тому +7

    One must first pump, before they may dump.

  • @mauzen_
    @mauzen_ 9 годин тому +23

    "I think we are in a AI bubble" big understatement

  • @breezyx976
    @breezyx976 9 годин тому +8

    If the bubble pops, maybe graphics cards will become easily affordable again?

    • @lewiswood1693
      @lewiswood1693 9 годин тому +2

      Nah crypto mining will suck them up again.
      Graphics cards will never be cheap again

    • @phoenixfire6559
      @phoenixfire6559 9 годин тому

      The AI bubble refers to there being too many mouths and not enough slices of pie. But the pie is real and growing i.e. AI will still be here when the bubble bursts. Until a better technology than GPUs and CUDA come along to handle the AI, GPU prices will keep rising.

  • @cinemaipswich4636
    @cinemaipswich4636 9 годин тому +7

    Price to Earnings is important. If the PE is 10:1, that means it has already given you 10% return this year. You'll double your money in 10 years. If it's valuation is 200:1 that means Wall Street values it that way, even though no dividend has been paid so far, if ever. It's "fake it till you make it". Personalities are invited to join the Board of Directors. It's like Crypto Influencers selling junk.

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 9 годин тому

      AMZN

    • @bryce.ferenczi
      @bryce.ferenczi 9 годин тому

      CAGR is more important for early stage companies, you'll be doubling your (paper) gains a lot sooner than 10 years. PE is a good measure for giants that are well established and move slowly like GE and ExxonMobil.

  • @thisnotdog
    @thisnotdog 10 годин тому +5

    the hdd boom is an apt comparison, these startups are built on the same logic. there is something strange about SMEs abandoning ship on monumental projects just to start smaller ones though.

  • @Standbackforscience
    @Standbackforscience 9 годин тому +8

    No real product, no real revenue, I guess.

  • @zemodeus
    @zemodeus 9 годин тому +1

    Ai bubble? That will take 2 more years at least.

  • @marnig9185
    @marnig9185 9 годин тому +1

    And all what they make is real warm air.

  • @Zuranthus
    @Zuranthus 10 годин тому +15

    the guys working at the top AI companies are making $500k-$800k, they'll be fine

    • @Memepolicedoggo
      @Memepolicedoggo 9 годин тому +3

      He's not talking about the top AI companies, he's talking about all the little startups making glorified chatGPT wrapper apps, and getting paid in stock options

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 9 годин тому

      @@Memepolicedoggo No one said capitalism wasn't messy.

    • @kabirkumar5815
      @kabirkumar5815 9 годин тому

      Lots are much smaller

    • @Zuranthus
      @Zuranthus 9 годин тому +1

      @@Memepolicedoggo if that were the case he wouldn't be telling them to save their money, cause they're not making any

  • @alpaykasal2902
    @alpaykasal2902 9 годин тому

    I dunno, I think there ill be an enormous value chain around "frontier data", the focused private data not scraped from the web.

  • @wt29
    @wt29 9 годин тому

    I saw a YT, I think it was Slidebean, that shows a symbiotic connection between the startups and VCs. The hype bubble(s) are a requirement to keep those industries turning over. We have been promised industry revolutions before - crypto, nfts, big data etc - all driven by VCs and in the end reduced to solid, small niches but not revolutionary.

    • @SurmaSampo
      @SurmaSampo 9 годин тому

      Big data is used across pretty much all large enterprises and is essentially the reason why we have cloud. It is now just another part of the mature enterprise architecture and tech stack.
      It is neither small nor niche.

  • @JeffBilkins
    @JeffBilkins 9 годин тому +1

    What are these crazy valuations even based on? There is too much money and greed just sloshing around.

  • @incription
    @incription 9 годин тому

    Bubble pops when someone creates AGI

  • @AIPretendingToBeHuman
    @AIPretendingToBeHuman 9 годин тому +3

    Meta is ruining the party for all these closed source solutions. Llama/Nemotron all the way 😊

    • @kabirkumar5815
      @kabirkumar5815 9 годин тому

      Rn, DeepSeek is much more exciting to me

    • @kabirkumar5815
      @kabirkumar5815 9 годин тому

      The Llama license is annoying to me

  • @MasterBotttle
    @MasterBotttle 10 годин тому +21

    They right, the AI hype was bubble all along.

    • @dustinyoung3069
      @dustinyoung3069 10 годин тому +3

      *startup* bubble. AI is not hype, its just not something small players can generally capitalize on. The majors are doubling down on their infrastructure investments, but they've already acquired the startups they want in order to bring this next chapter in tech to monetization. There is real value in AI, you just need a $100Bn market cap in order to get to it.

    • @illusion9423
      @illusion9423 9 годин тому +3

      I always found it weird how soon it was up after bitcoin. As soon as bitcoin fell, it was AI. Its ridiculous

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 9 годин тому +1

      @@illusion9423 Crypto is still a bubble that hasn't fallen yet.

  • @QwertiusMaximus
    @QwertiusMaximus 9 годин тому

    When B-list and has-been celebrities star In Super Bowl ads for AI companies, it's time to sell.

  • @adeptpeasant6161
    @adeptpeasant6161 10 годин тому +7

    Ai is the new Narc on all our electronics

  • @ghostmantagshome-er6pb
    @ghostmantagshome-er6pb 9 годин тому

    You've been pretty good so far.

  • @kabirkumar5815
    @kabirkumar5815 9 годин тому

    Why not a run that just massively benefits a few at the top?

  • @bryce.ferenczi
    @bryce.ferenczi 9 годин тому

    LLMs seem to be a comodity and is being given away for free by many large companies. None of these companies are worth anywhere near what their current valuation is and won't exist in a decade.

  • @HughJanus-o3e
    @HughJanus-o3e 9 годин тому

    5:17 old view of SF skyline right?

  • @elmarsi
    @elmarsi 10 годин тому +1

    thanks i rly love ur content, i hope u doing great !!! thanks from Arg

  • @kabirkumar5815
    @kabirkumar5815 9 годин тому

    Sonnet seems to be doing o1 like stuff recently

    • @kabirkumar5815
      @kabirkumar5815 9 годин тому

      This is almost completely an asspull based on some vibes and seemingly longer inference times

  • @Derpy1969
    @Derpy1969 9 годин тому

    AI hasn’t figured out how to make money.

  • @chrismasterith
    @chrismasterith 10 годин тому +11

    The hardware is good though.

    • @Boko-Maru
      @Boko-Maru 10 годин тому +1

      the best thing to come out of this

  • @eamonjun
    @eamonjun 9 годин тому

    FYI. Quantum computing is next.

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 9 годин тому

      Quantum computers is the same as fusion power, always a decade away. And funded similarly. AI is just software. It has no practical limitations.

  • @OperationXX1
    @OperationXX1 9 годин тому +4

    AI software startups may be in a bubble, but the AI hardware boom is real. Hyperscalers are the key drivers of this growth, as they believe AGI is within reach. Over the past few years, we’ve seen significant improvements in LLM performance and accuracy, and if this trend continues, AGI could be achieved in the near future. Hyperscalers will continue investing in AI hardware as long as advancements in LLMs don’t plateau.

  • @kabirkumar5815
    @kabirkumar5815 9 годин тому

    These unoriginal ones are 100% in a bubble, but its mostly due to VCs being bad at judgement and the AI space attracting hype beasts like very few others. Stuff like shrek sampler should be worth millions, but the guys making it seem to just be doing it for free behind anon accounts atm.
    The AI Celebrities thing is due to VCs being dumb and original again.
    What we will be able to see in the next two years, imo is the first serious AI companies who can actually bootstrap, as learning efficiency increases and the ability to make value increases.

  • @cartmann94
    @cartmann94 10 годин тому +8

    Just like the bust of N/F/Ts, my schadenfreude bristles with excitement. Hopefully a lot of these unnecessary ai apps like the one on Google search and the one Amazon uses (Rufus? Isn’t that the fat bloke from Street Fighter 4?) will be discontinued and moved to the wayside.

    • @fullstackcrackerjack
      @fullstackcrackerjack 10 годин тому

      NFTs were never worth anything to begin with. Automation / AI is valuable from the start. AI in the form of Deep and Machine Learning has been here the whole time and has already proven it's value. LLMs are here to stay because it can make sense of random input. That's valuable. ChatBots are only one small public piece of that functionality.

    • @user-pt1kj5uw3b
      @user-pt1kj5uw3b 9 годин тому

      Comparing AI/ML and NFTs is ridiculous.

  • @xan-s6s
    @xan-s6s 9 годин тому

    I don't think so. Yes some things have to change. But AI startups will explode once utilizing the blockchain and 5G technology.

  • @lakeguy65616
    @lakeguy65616 10 годин тому +4

    AI is a GIANT bubble. AI is the future, just not yet....

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 9 годин тому

      But no one knows which path leads to that future. So the money flows in.

  • @williamstephenson9006
    @williamstephenson9006 10 годин тому

    Can it learn logic?

  • @rasimbot
    @rasimbot 9 годин тому

    I read burst first

  • @fboomerang
    @fboomerang 10 годин тому

    New startups have hardly even gotten started yet. Investors shouldn't invest in companies that have nothing innovative or have no moat.

    • @fafillionaire
      @fafillionaire 9 годин тому +2

      There's no where else to put the money. The Fed keeps bond yields artificially low so there's no reason to take part in safe investments as they won't outpace inflation. Save your money and lose it, buy bonds and lose it, buy value stocks and lose it, but growth zombie companies and only 95% chance you lose it but 5% chance you find a gold mine ... the choice is easy for people with excess capital.

  • @andymouse
    @andymouse 9 годин тому

    Bit off topic but please do any of you no a piece of AI software that will let me download a picture then modify it I have a picture of a friends tennis court and he's away and I want to send him a picture of his court with a 'Sinkhole' in it !

  • @ajax700
    @ajax700 10 годин тому +4

    Are you going to cover Intel calamitous state?
    Best wishes.

  • @RichardFraser-y9t
    @RichardFraser-y9t 10 годин тому +2

    It's going to take a lot of the economy with it.

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 9 годин тому

      Not really. Its all VC and PE money. You have some retail investors but its all speculative investing. Money is still cheap historically. In fact there is far to much of it. Trillions of dollars could evaporate and it would not effect the real economy at all. Far less disruptive than if all the fever dreams of AI came true.

  • @commonwombat-h6r
    @commonwombat-h6r 9 годин тому

    The only good thing the I boom has brought so far is alphafold. Everything else is rubbish. AI generated code? Buggy. AI generated text? Slop. AI generated art? Soulless

    • @loneIyboy15
      @loneIyboy15 9 годин тому +1

      GPT4 is a pretty good translation assistant. Combined with an honest Human translator, it speeds up the whole process immensely while improving accuracy.

  • @JudgeFredd
    @JudgeFredd 10 годин тому +2

    AI is a bubble

  • @williamstephenson9006
    @williamstephenson9006 10 годин тому +2

    AI can't reason. Should it drive cars?

    • @gantech7788
      @gantech7788 9 годин тому +1

      Have you looked at politics? Just because you can reason doesn’t mean it’s any good.

    • @johnathanclayton2887
      @johnathanclayton2887 9 годин тому

      What is reasoning?

    • @kalaidoscopez5388
      @kalaidoscopez5388 9 годин тому +2

      Most people on earth can't reason either

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 9 годин тому

      LLMs don't drive cars. Machine learning apps are more accurate than human.

    • @loneIyboy15
      @loneIyboy15 9 годин тому

      @@kalaidoscopez5388 For instance, when presented with the undeniable evidence that
      Communism has never worked anywhere in the entire history of the world, a portion of the
      population will double down on their denial, often citing anecdotal "evidence" such as “this
      book says it still can and it wasn’t ‘true’ Communism anyway!”

  • @YHauz-co
    @YHauz-co 10 годин тому +2

    YHauz is more useful than any AI. Expecting hunger in Africa Americans buy John Deer shares while Russia and China ship food there.

  • @undivided_unified
    @undivided_unified 10 годин тому +2

    Damn, I was just hoping to get a wild paying job

  • @Arctic-fox717
    @Arctic-fox717 10 годин тому

    What is gonna be left of modular nuclear reactors? Bust? No!

    • @RichardFraser-y9t
      @RichardFraser-y9t 10 годин тому +1

      They haven't even started on making nuclear power stations, well, apart from Microsoft who were forced to pay for 20 years of power up front.

    • @Arctic-fox717
      @Arctic-fox717 9 годин тому

      @@RichardFraser-y9t how about Oracle? They got the permits already according to Barrons..

  • @ArdellaRomama
    @ArdellaRomama 9 годин тому

    Moja głowa w łóżku ma więcej gry niż mój profil randkowy i to jest w porządku💝

    • @xp8969
      @xp8969 9 годин тому

      Report this scambot for spam ☝️

  • @afterglow5285
    @afterglow5285 10 годин тому +2

    Fortune favors the brave

  • @ras0k
    @ras0k 10 годин тому +2

    wake up babe new Asianometry just dropped!

  • @jbdawinna9910
    @jbdawinna9910 10 годин тому

    I sub to like 4 different companies so I can cash in if any of them go big, just it’s just a sub and they only like me for my money, or only for my addition to the number of people they can say they have as a customer when they get the next round of funding

  • @KenjiEspresso
    @KenjiEspresso 10 годин тому

    Internets a bubble too?

  • @jbdawinna9910
    @jbdawinna9910 10 годин тому +2

    FIRST BOIIIIII

    • @jbdawinna9910
      @jbdawinna9910 10 годин тому +1

      I LOVE THIS ASIAN GUY AND AI, let’s gooooo

    • @ras0k
      @ras0k 10 годин тому +1

      @@jbdawinna9910 you're second but thanks for trying

  • @AL-or3dn
    @AL-or3dn 10 годин тому +1

    third :)

    • @ras0k
      @ras0k 10 годин тому

      4th but nice try

  • @ThadEfrenen
    @ThadEfrenen 9 годин тому

    The real mystery of adulthood is how often you're supposed to change your bedsheets👄