True but it's sad seeing rappers that can't rap a lick today getting commerical success whereas Bis had 100 x the skills but just like u said no commerical appeal!!!
Cannibus has a shitty attitude...he was set to blow they had LL as hes og and he messed that up. Then he tried to go after em for no reason? Like what are you doing? Great rapper though
DJ Premier tells a story about the time Canibus’s record company (Universal) booked a studio session for the two of them to work together. Preem played multiple tracks for him and he rejected all of them, saying something to the effect of “I just don’t think you understand my vision.” Preem gave the check back to the label, uncashed. One of those beats he passed on eventually became Devil’s Pie by D’Angelo. The best A&R on the planet can’t help somebody stubbornly working against their own best interests.
WOO WEE!!!! I THOUGHT ETHER WAS EXQUISITE BUT WOO WEE!!! CANIBUS was SLEPT ON 4REAL his VOCAB AND METAPHORS..Kinda remind me of KEITH MURRY another ONE of my FAVORITES... K SOLO...RASS KASS...ALL SLEPT ON...FYAHHHHHH!!!!!!!
That's actually a good comparison. The welterweight was doing good up until the mid rounds then the size difference was showing and the deciding factor for the loss.
Wtf you mean sickest diss record? Canibus already said similar shit like this in the first diss, LL came back hard talking about him homeless, talked about 99% of his fanbase dont even exist, and even threw a shot at Wyclef, and digged a lot of facts on Canibus. Canibus ran out of material. You Canistans just don't wanna admit it
@@ronaldhonore3454 he already talked about his mom and went personal about his wife and shit in Second Round Knockout and 99% of your fans don't exist isn't a trash bar because yes Canibus might have went gold but the bar meant that Canibus was still underground and wasn't mainstream and honestly after that beef, LL's lines were well founded because of the fact Canibus didn't recover after that because his shit flopped. Seemed like LL was pretty much predicting the future and was right
This is why the hip hop industry never gave canibus love and respect cause canibus's lyrics were too evil and disrespectful and socially cauntios for hip hop
I call bullshit on this. It was fucked up what ll did to this guy and bis was fighting an uphill battle against LL. He had to take it to the gutters and he was clearly the winner but it was probably a 50/50 split between the hard cores and LL’s fans that actually thought he won lol. It’s crazy that you can win a battle and fuck your career up the same time. As far as disrespect goes pulle up jays/nas battle which was uglier than this one... by far
@@christianc8929 canibus was blackballed and Nas couldn’t be blackballed because Nas already had his own album out that time and he was an established artist
Nobody weaved him out of the industry, he weaved himself . He got spiraled because all he did in all albums and songs were trying to send subliminal or clear shots to LL He was clearly obsessed by LL and kept spiraling and he destroyed his career alone. The moment you start obsessing with someone and you can't focus on your goals and career, you are the one who lost no matter what others think. Eminem and LL both won and maybe Canibus was better lyrically or maybe not, but the fact he was obsessing himself over his beefs was his demise. Eminem also went insane on beefs, hell Pac went insane on Biggie but they never obsessed themselves, they had the diss track and kept evolving and furthering their careers, while Canibus obsession with LL was way too much and he ended his career alone .
@@s8602 you might be right on him weaving himself out of the game, but as far as obsession, I don't know. I clearly believe that Canibus won that battle between him & LL. But, my assessment on them weaving him out of the industry, was the fact that he was a problem to LL at the time & LL was at the height of his career when he went Hollywood & he had some big time people backing him with a lot of money, so to me Canibus was time enough for him, when it came to battling. I also believe that Canibus didn't know how to go in the right direction, when it came to making album's, which also hurt his career. But, as far as him & Em's battle, I do agree with you on that one though.
Everything about this track screams “bloody murder “. The beat, the lyrics, the flow, the major disrespect. If you ask me (and I can care less about your opinion), THIS song is better than 2Pac’s Hit Em Up. Yup, I said it!! This is a perfect example of what also happened between MGK vs Eminem. MGK’s diss track was better but popularity, status gave the automatic W to Eminem. That’s why people say LL won this battle.
Canibus was a dope lyricist all his diss track was just fire . Kool Moe Dee is Proud of this dude. He was trying to knock out LL in his day. But they all Squashed everything but it was fun while it lasted.
Canibus's downfall was he was one dimensional. Outside of battle bars and rhymes talking about how technically he could destroy a microphone, he had no other skill. He couldn't make a radio hit. He couldn't make a club hit...for the ladies. He just wasn't tht type of emcee. Canibus was lyrically a beast though. If he had the right team behind em to give a better direction he could of been a lot bigger. Also if he wouldn't of challenged LL. That really black balled him.
Willie D once said that after he heard 2Pac hit ‘em up he thought some one is about to die. Well if that’s the case, I’m not sure how Cannibus is still alive on this one. Yikes 😳😳😳
I love both Canibus and LL and all tracks were iLL but I don't see how everyone says Canibus lost. This right here was just disgusting but Respect to both Legends 👏
One of the most savage disses ever LL should of never tried canibus he got nuked on this and 2nd round ko jack the Ripper was alright but its not even close to either of canibus's disses you gave these two the exact same lyrics they used for their diss tracks and threw them in a battle on stage canibus would of murdered him and LL would of been clowned off stage straight up
I've never heard this shit before that's crazy I've heard all the other disses from both I don't know how I've never heard this I probably wasn't rocking with him like that after ll came out with his responses to 2nd round knock out
@@biggame8743 LL Cool J had a great return record but 2 round KO was just too good man. If you're saying LL was the one who was still standing afterwards, I respect that. Canibus couldn't break through commercially. But nothing beats Second Round KO. I don't think the ripper strikes back was a better song
LL was cold too with the 99% of your fans don’t exist and look over your shoulder that’s where you’ll be in a year! Plus he went hard at Iron Mike and Wclef
man, i can see why canibus lost the beef. he may have won the battle portion, but not the business side of it. one reason is: his lyrics, rhymes and punchlines are (almost) always fire. but the delivery…. the same tired flow has been there since second round ko up until now. 2022 he's still got this terrible flow, except it's gotten worse, 'cause now he's much slower than he was back then. and secondly, the guy has zero pr media training whatsoever. hurts my ears to listen to him talking. sad, he was talented enough to hit the mainstream.
@@prza4783 yeah, twice actually it was terrible, and it is STILL terrible so? am i saying “you shouldn't like his flow”? what i mean by that is “that's just not my cup of tea” - i'm giving MY opinion. i shouldn't like what you like, so.. don't know what you're tryna argue here, my friend
"Somebody keeps paging you putting 4.3.2.1 in" the most 90s diss of all time
“If they was as smart as me? Eazy E would be hanging from a tree.” -Ice Cube
masterful
4 3 2 1 was the song that started the beef
No bull lmao 🤣
"AND THAT MICROPHONE ON YOUR ARM, WILL ALWAYS BE MINE." LOL TOO ILL
This was more disrespectful than Second round ko...
Agreed
Which is actually saying something rigjt???
@@forgetfulfunctor1 Yep
that's how a diss is suppose 2 be right?
@@nimagholizadeh17 Yeah
Canibus was ill on the mic but had zero commercial appeal. If he had a better A&R team, I believe he would've blew up. He had the talent ...
True but it's sad seeing rappers that can't rap a lick today getting commerical success whereas Bis had 100 x the skills but just like u said no commerical appeal!!!
Agree
Cannibus has a shitty attitude...he was set to blow they had LL as hes og and he messed that up. Then he tried to go after em for no reason? Like what are you doing? Great rapper though
Just listen to Alps Cru to prove your point, sad shit my man, first the image, then the talent
DJ Premier tells a story about the time Canibus’s record company (Universal) booked a studio session for the two of them to work together. Preem played multiple tracks for him and he rejected all of them, saying something to the effect of “I just don’t think you understand my vision.” Preem gave the check back to the label, uncashed. One of those beats he passed on eventually became Devil’s Pie by D’Angelo.
The best A&R on the planet can’t help somebody stubbornly working against their own best interests.
He won with 2nd round ko this was like emptying a full 30 clip in his dead body then blowing him up
LMAO. 🤣🤣🤣
word
he won lyrically, but career wise LL destroyed him. Canibus tried to act like a persona he wasnt, he wasnt all that popular. LL won cuz he was real.
it's sad the way he didn't get the respect and love he deserves
Exactly!!!! One of the coldest MCs EVER
Plus hes the first rapper i know that joined the army.
@@SOULS_INKPEN he's the goat.
@Nevin Reid because he was butt hurt
@@DaWhiteHowhard and the first rapper to make a 100 Bars Song ever and also 1000 Bars song (54 minutes long)
Y’all don’t know how much this killed on the radio!! When this shit got played (debuted) it went crazy… they played it like 10 times in a row lmao
This shit ain't ever play on radio 🤣🤣
@@kws2534 Cope.
When was it released?
@@85MAYS 2003 I think I heard it in high school
pirate/underground radio it was@@kws2534
WOO WEE!!!! I THOUGHT ETHER WAS EXQUISITE BUT WOO WEE!!! CANIBUS was SLEPT ON 4REAL his VOCAB AND METAPHORS..Kinda remind me of KEITH MURRY another ONE of my FAVORITES... K SOLO...RASS KASS...ALL SLEPT ON...FYAHHHHHH!!!!!!!
Canibis slaughtered LL with every diss track, the only problem was Canibus had to go against the machine, which was Def Jam
LL killed him but it was a draw in my opinion
@@isiacfrost5922 nah canibus smoked LL
I feel like LL could whoop Canibus in an actual fight remember he whooped Jamie Foxx ass
@@brandonn4553 of course he’ll break canibus in half!!! That’s a hippopotamus vs a crocodile right there💯💯😂😂😂😂
LL didn't need anymore after "the ripper" track...he just laid him to bed, PERIOD!!!!
This deserves WAY more views.
Bis is da man! I’m sayin this as an LL fan
LL was nice on his disses. But Canibus was just on another level. Like a welterweight going against a super middleweight
That's actually a good comparison. The welterweight was doing good up until the mid rounds then the size difference was showing and the deciding factor for the loss.
Fax
LL killed bus!
@@howsway42 think again
@@michaelguscott9515 I agree. I'm a HUGE LL fan and I still say Canibus won.
Sickest diss track I've ever heard in my life.
Wtf you mean sickest diss record? Canibus already said similar shit like this in the first diss, LL came back hard talking about him homeless, talked about 99% of his fanbase dont even exist, and even threw a shot at Wyclef, and digged a lot of facts on Canibus. Canibus ran out of material. You Canistans just don't wanna admit it
ETHER- Nas
@@kidz919 99% of your don't exist was a thrash bar because canibus went gold. What line did canibus reused on this song?
@@ronaldhonore3454 he already talked about his mom and went personal about his wife and shit in Second Round Knockout and 99% of your fans don't exist isn't a trash bar because yes Canibus might have went gold but the bar meant that Canibus was still underground and wasn't mainstream and honestly after that beef, LL's lines were well founded because of the fact Canibus didn't recover after that because his shit flopped. Seemed like LL was pretty much predicting the future and was right
@@kidz919 naw you just a hater bruh..
Oh boy he talked about his wife 2 other than that it's a Best diss ever
Its a connection
The skinny kid/ the industry’s guinea pig.
🤦🏾♂️
Eminem
This is why the hip hop industry never gave canibus love and respect cause canibus's lyrics were too evil and disrespectful and socially cauntios for hip hop
A least you & I know. 🤷🏾♂️
I call bullshit on this. It was fucked up what ll did to this guy and bis was fighting an uphill battle against LL. He had to take it to the gutters and he was clearly the winner but it was probably a 50/50 split between the hard cores and LL’s fans that actually thought he won lol. It’s crazy that you can win a battle and fuck your career up the same time. As far as disrespect goes pulle up jays/nas battle which was uglier than this one... by far
@@christianc8929 it simply boils down to money. A few people in a room thinking who will make them the most profit. They chose LL. Understably.
And I am in no way supporting their decision
@@christianc8929 canibus was blackballed and Nas couldn’t be blackballed because Nas already had his own album out that time and he was an established artist
That first verse 🔥🔥🔥😂😂😂❗️❗️❗️
💯
All verses bro
The most spectacular rap battle of all time. #canibuswins
There’s a rumour that Before that and 2 round ko ll was just cool j
Lol Canibus gave him his 2 L's
Best comment ever 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@CJ AGOGBUA Yes agreed
Nice one
@CJ AGOGBUA LLL Cool J
One of the Greatest diss songs in my opinion
This is colder than LLs. Hands down.
Damn the nigga went for his wife and kids, Wow this nigga fierce
RIP LL Cool J
you deserve a sub
Lmao
Not really
LL never responded to this either. He basically swept it under the rug lol
@@mannyderosa8512 cos he knew canibus is a lyrical beast.
Top 5 diss record ever.. Cool J doesn’t even have a top ten diss record of all time!
2nd round ko was better in my opinion
@@viptorious3405 2nd round was cold and calculated, this one is bare disrespect and spitting in ll's face. As a diss I prefer this one
lol cool j is on top ten disses of all time bro
Hello There, no real hip hop head has a ll diss in there top ten
El Malakh Feo, Kool Moe Dee was a better battle rapper than Cool J.
Wow. Ive never heard this before and the diss is good.
They had to weave Canibus out of the industry, because he would've tainted LL's career with this one. He was already a problem with "2nd Round KO!"
Can't find this on Spotify either
@@gorillionaire I believe it.
Nobody weaved him out of the industry, he weaved himself .
He got spiraled because all he did in all albums and songs were trying to send subliminal or clear shots to LL
He was clearly obsessed by LL and kept spiraling and he destroyed his career alone.
The moment you start obsessing with someone and you can't focus on your goals and career, you are the one who lost no matter what others think.
Eminem and LL both won and maybe Canibus was better lyrically or maybe not, but the fact he was obsessing himself over his beefs was his demise.
Eminem also went insane on beefs, hell Pac went insane on Biggie but they never obsessed themselves, they had the diss track and kept evolving and furthering their careers, while Canibus obsession with LL was way too much and he ended his career alone .
@@s8602 you might be right on him weaving himself out of the game, but as far as obsession, I don't know. I clearly believe that Canibus won that battle between him & LL. But, my assessment on them weaving him out of the industry, was the fact that he was a problem to LL at the time & LL was at the height of his career when he went Hollywood & he had some big time people backing him with a lot of money, so to me Canibus was time enough for him, when it came to battling. I also believe that Canibus didn't know how to go in the right direction, when it came to making album's, which also hurt his career. But, as far as him & Em's battle, I do agree with you on that one though.
@@s8602 cap
This track is underrated as hell. 🔥🔥🔥
Better than Hit Em Up..(yup I said it)
God bless Canibus.. Wordsmith par excellence.
I never heard this or knew about it. Once again he kills ll
I don’t know what LL was thinkin, but it was too late. R.I.P. Cool J career
Most disrespectful diss track in the history of diss tracks
Also the sickest
Lie you've got hit em up and no vaseline etc but this is lit
@@hustla187x7 this is a lot more disrespectful than both tbh
@@hustla187x7 there better but this is disrespecful
This sh8ts on “Hit Em Up”
@@hustla187x7no Vaseline is better than Hit Em Up. So comparing No Vaseline to this is proper.
Everything about this track screams “bloody murder “.
The beat, the lyrics, the flow, the major disrespect.
If you ask me (and I can care less about your opinion), THIS song is better than 2Pac’s Hit Em Up. Yup, I said it!!
This is a perfect example of what also happened between MGK vs Eminem. MGK’s diss track was better but popularity, status gave the automatic W to Eminem. That’s why people say LL won this battle.
This went under the radar...
Because it was 🗑️
The intro always had me in the tears 😂😂😂
Funny hahahaha.
Todd
@@MrMakingcake Toddler
Bus is still the goat to me
Before his name was cool j now it's LL cool J stands for those L's he took one from moe dee and one from this track
I remember when this came out I was pissed it didn't hit radio. LL got his head ripped off. I still love LL Too. But this was the pinnacle.
This is harder than 2nd round or ripper strikes back. Canibhs sampling LL، and hurting him with that Simone line.
Exactly bro. Killing him on the sample alone makes the track killer
No rapper could rap quite like I can
You know who the fuck I am, I'm the canibus man
Dang. Biss wasn't playin' He came for blood. RIP LL.
This was brutal 💀💀
I dig L L but goddamn this went hard af. Bus has them bars lol
I don’t see how LL won this battle against Can and don’t see how he won against Moe D was a lyrical monster on I got em
LL won off name and bravado alone. sux but i like bis as an underrated rapper. 🤷🏻♂️
LL is all just commercial appeal and popularity that won him
Thats 🔥
Wow! Yoooooo!😧😲 this is the best fucking most sick ass diss Burning 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 track I ever heard. Damn 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Canibus was a dope lyricist all his diss track was just fire . Kool Moe Dee is Proud of this dude. He was trying to knock out LL in his day. But they all Squashed everything but it was fun while it lasted.
DAM HE RIPP THAT SHIT UP...DAM! I AM JUST HEARING THIS!!!FIRE....FIRE!!!
Me too and I was in HS when all this went down, I only heard up to 2nd round knockout till today
LL put in a couple good ones, but this one goes HARD
HOW AM I JUST HEARING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME??!?!
You late fam 😂
Killed cool j
nah L killed him with ripper strikes back
One of the illest records in hip hop
Man I missed cannabis 💪🏼😎🔥🔥🔥
Anybody who say LL won this beef obviously hasn't heard this song or the original 4 3 2 1...
Canibus has bar's
This drake n kdot diss is making me relive the glory days
Canibus's downfall was he was one dimensional. Outside of battle bars and rhymes talking about how technically he could destroy a microphone, he had no other skill. He couldn't make a radio hit. He couldn't make a club hit...for the ladies. He just wasn't tht type of emcee. Canibus was lyrically a beast though. If he had the right team behind em to give a better direction he could of been a lot bigger. Also if he wouldn't of challenged LL. That really black balled him.
THAT WAS HIS MAIN PURPOSE!
so many wack thoughts foh
In that whole 2nd verse did he actually do the math in that 1 line
Canibus mauled LL on everything lol Canibus is such a legend!
So he was telling us back then as well. Some people are getting it in the cheeks.
This is extremely brutal man 😂😂😂
Willie D once said that after he heard 2Pac hit ‘em up he thought some one is about to die. Well if that’s the case, I’m not sure how Cannibus is still alive on this one. Yikes 😳😳😳
I love both Canibus and LL and all tracks were iLL but I don't see how everyone says Canibus lost. This right here was just disgusting but Respect to both Legends 👏
Ouch! No wonder LL didn’t respond. I mean I like LL Cool J. But yikes that’s gotta hurt.
LL did respond its called the ripper strikes back
@@JimmieRoyale that was the response to 2nd round ko. This one has no response
@@JimmieRoyale this was after ripper strikes back
@@spector2809 True. LL never responded to this. He just thanked Canibus for "inspiration" on his GOAT album to save face, but the damage was done.
He did respond dummy
One of the most savage disses ever LL should of never tried canibus he got nuked on this and 2nd round ko jack the Ripper was alright but its not even close to either of canibus's disses you gave these two the exact same lyrics they used for their diss tracks and threw them in a battle on stage canibus would of murdered him and LL would of been clowned off stage straight up
Lol yea right
This track is a response to LL Cool J The Ripper Strike Back
And people still have the nerves to say Eminem smoked Canibus
"You soft porn you held hands on the first date"
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Canibus knocked this one out
The fact this was a freestyle is even crazier!!
This shit cold sheesh
get em bis
came to comment this^
turns out i did already verbatim 10months ago. *dope*
As a LL fan Canibus bodied him . 💯%
Yeah definitely won that battle but when the machine is backing you the corniest artist thrive!
Press F to pay respect to cool aid
Cannibus was mean asf 😂
he a junkyard dog
Man Canibus is badass
LL ended up blaming Jay Z because he was falling off at Def Jam.. so Canibus almost had it right.
old scool earth..yep i'am a ll kid from da begining..but my man "he can bus " cani ate em up on his track..ruff but real deally
Somebody send this to Drizzy, KDot, Metro and the rest of em!
I've never heard this shit before that's crazy I've heard all the other disses from both I don't know how I've never heard this I probably wasn't rocking with him like that after ll came out with his responses to 2nd round knock out
Dope
Turns out Canibus wasn’t lying.
Can I bus at home watching LL on tv..
I’m tryna find out why I never heard this shit.
Deep. Love 2 Bis
Don’t get me wrong, I think LLCoolJ won the beef overall, but this was a damn good diss track.
He lost the battle
@@abyss104no he didn't
@@biggame8743 he did.
@@biggame8743 LL Cool J had a great return record but 2 round KO was just too good man. If you're saying LL was the one who was still standing afterwards, I respect that. Canibus couldn't break through commercially. But nothing beats Second Round KO. I don't think the ripper strikes back was a better song
He lost.
Wow! I hope this is not true 🔥
If only canibus an kiss made a track damn shit would be 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Canibus killed him so hard this music video is worthless.
Yet Canibus Doubletapped anyway
Ate'em
They both did their thing man, I still like Ll diss track
They came strong but cannibus won ll cool j pulled strings in the industry so he didn't get as famous as him
I think Canibus won but the ripper strikes back is also ill
LL was cold too with the 99% of your fans don’t exist and look over your shoulder that’s where you’ll be in a year! Plus he went hard at Iron Mike and Wclef
Damn that is crazy
Didn't know about the diss song damn it might be better than Jack the Ripper diss song
god damn..
Rip is the illest!
"Your prime ended 8 months before '99"
Holy shit bodied
if only he came this strong in second round ko
Canibus
Rip The Jacker > 2nd Round KO
man, i can see why canibus lost the beef.
he may have won the battle portion, but not the business side of it.
one reason is:
his lyrics, rhymes and punchlines are (almost) always fire.
but the delivery…. the same tired flow has been there since second round ko up until now. 2022 he's still got this terrible flow, except it's gotten worse, 'cause now he's much slower than he was back then.
and secondly, the guy has zero pr media training whatsoever. hurts my ears to listen to him talking.
sad, he was talented enough to hit the mainstream.
You really expect a 48 yo man to sound like 28? U must b crazy
@@prza4783 no, never said that.
btw, he actually sounds like his younger self, cause like i said, he’s got the same tired flow. please read carefully.
@@zaebok777 u said his flow is terrible and stuff.
@@prza4783 yeah, twice actually
it was terrible, and it is STILL terrible
so?
am i saying “you shouldn't like his flow”?
what i mean by that is “that's just not my cup of tea” - i'm giving MY opinion. i shouldn't like what you like, so..
don't know what you're tryna argue here, my friend
Who cares about who’s more famous. It doesn’t make him better. The most important thing is who had better disses. Cannibus did
Good lyrics but he shoulda made his own beat
@coldmanfx 13 The beat and 1st line from I'm bad
That's the point, he wanted to diss him in his own beat