@@Infotainment-cb6cythere are a million academics and philosophers out making serious well thought out arguments, go read them and let zizek be zizek. You don’t always have to agree with him or think he’s the most thorough guy in the world but he’s one of a kind.
Why are people so negative about me being a person without any conditional realization of my life or the life of the mind on an experiential I of not being itself dulled in terms of what I want to be differententiated as the only other of you ?
I'd love to watch an interview without a deadline to be finished, to see how long it lasts. Zizek is so passionate about talking about important topics, I think he would spend two days in a row speaking non stop. And I would totally listen to it.
I got into a very interesting Žižek style conversation with a person I met in a hostel kitchen this summer. We spent the next 3 nights (yes, until dawn!) in that kitchen. It totally is possible!
@@aoeu256 This is a wonderful idea. It would shift the IQ of younger generations up by a statistically significant amount. Now all we have to do is to convince Zizek…
@@FloatingErgonaut No, I think they mean the end of the world came earlier to the Native Americans (specifically) during the Native American genocide that created the modern-day political order of the Americas.
I have never seen someone handle Zizek as a guest so well. He tends to go over the same points in every interview I find, but you managed to squeeze a lot of interesting things out of him that I haven't heard before. Well done.
A very *very* fruitful and addictive conversation in whicht many different topics were mentioned and analized. Žižek has the same energy he had 10 years ago and you managed to let him speak out while still non-invasively guiding him. Greets to Slavoj from his old homecountry.
@@NikolaAvramov reci mu brate. Staljinisti kao on treba da zavrse tamo gde treba. Zamisli da slavis coveka i bude ti idol neko ko je poubijao 200 miliona "svojih" ljudi. Ajmo udri po istini kazem pod navodnicima "svojih" jer on sam nije bio Rus vec jedno obicno cionisticko govno kao i onaj njegov Lenjin obojca skolovani u Austriji. Cak i njegova cerka je uspela da pobegne od njega u Ameriku.
seeing him guided non invasively is ok, but personally i like it better when the interviewer leads him to the point using fully penetrative interviewing techniques
😂...I knew about this man already but in first minute he made me want to bow to him..."Never get drunk in public, world is a dangerous place and someone will use your moment of not being sober to undermine you".....😂....So true.
@@Virjunior01 Well, everything in the world has a good side and bad side. Important is to know, to understand, to try to avoid doing anyone any harm but remaining true to yourself. You are right, a pen can be mightier than the sword.
This is honestly the best interview with Zizek I’ve ever seen. You’re awesome, it’s good you let him speak and not rush him but also it’s clear you’ve done your research as your questions are really relevant and great to lead the discussion. Well done, subscribed!
He is chaotic and I here for it😂❤ I love how productive he is (3 books a year!? wow) and he has sparks in his eyes while discussing his ideas. Admirable❤ ❤❤
Zizek? Calmly? My god, I had to tie my laptop down. it was jumping all over the place as soon the video started 😄 By the way, this is a compliment to Mr Zizek.
@@markpostgate2551gota be honest.. I prefer when he gets to the point of what he actually has to say 😵💫 all that rambly digression stuff drives me a bit loopy, especially when it relates to a question that’s been posed by the interviewer regarding some urgent issue or other
Agreed. He used to make great little history segments which I found really interesting and enjoyable. Not sure why they stopped making those, but I would happily see them return, or maybe a once-per-week history themed podcast episode similar to Downstream
What was meant by "history"? World history? Modern Western civilisations history? History as a series of cycles? History of thought movements (just the modern ones or all of them)?
00:03 Juice should be valued and not threatened. 02:34 Stay sober and vigilant to recognize attacks. 07:32 We live in dangerous times and thinking is needed. 10:22 Revolutionary movements can have unintended consequences. 16:09 The film 'Oppenheimer' received backlash in India for the portrayal of Bhagavad Gita in a sexual context. 18:34 The left should focus on building a broad coalition instead of engaging in divisive censoring. 23:53 Safety of social order is essential for normal life. 26:23 Leftist should focus on changing power structure for real impact 31:37 Robespierre consciously risked his life to stop the horror of Terror 34:06 Violent measures can lead to a better state in the long run. 39:38 Violence in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict can lead to catastrophic consequences for all sides. 42:19 Putin aims to create a perverted anti-Western coalition, using issues like feminism, homosexuality, and anti-Semitism to fight against the West. 47:33 The rise of European Jewry is intertwined with the idea of cosmopolitanism. 50:09 Leftist anti-Semitism is a sign of a problem with their leftism. 55:14 The result of granting full citizenship rights to Jews was a stronger form of anti-Semitism. 57:58 The legacy of modern Europe, with its strong sovereign nation-states, is a catastrophe today. 1:02:46 Modernization through controlled capitalism and national traditions 1:05:06 A new form of power is emerging in today's global economy, where conglomerates and mega corporations exploit both productive capitalists and workers. 1:10:10 Maintaining support for Ukraine to maintain the military stalemate is the best option. 1:12:24 Putin's view on Ukraine and his plans for decommunization 1:16:54 The decline of the United States may lead to the end of Western Civilization. 1:19:03 Global rise of extreme right-wing parties and the potential for a new form of fascist capitalism. 1:24:13 Socialism taught us that actual freedom requires certain material conditions. 1:27:08 Preparing for emergency states and addressing ecological catastrophes is crucial to counter right-wing authoritarianism. 1:31:36 The left analyzes underdevelopment caused by global capital, but fails to apply this analysis to the topic of occupation capitalist underdevelopment. 1:34:16 American intervention in Iraq led to the rise of ISIS and increased Iranian influence. 1:39:13 Be cautious of toxic relationships and false admiration for other cultures
Aaron PLEASE interview Zizek again. You have helped me understand so much about things he usually has trouble explaining because you ask him provocative questions. Incredible.
Really really interesting conversation! Zizek's unconventional way of putting things in perspective (and sometimes a bit overwhelming lol!) is just amazing and you did a great job managing it Aaron. Things I wanted to hear from a leftie with honesty for a long time, and Zizek just delivered that so well.
My God, what a spectacular gadfly Žižek is. The more I hear from him, the more I like him. Also, props to Bastani for the analysis of the Chinese economy through the lens of car sales. That was a good approach.
Zizek thinks that Israel has a right to exist. he support settler colonialism and is closer to a fascist than being on the left. you are not part of the left at all.. you would have supported apartheid South Africa and European colonialism back in the day...
Telling how Novara are so prepared to platform right-wing cisgender transphobes over the age of 50 but not left-wing trans people over the age of 50. We get the message.
Žižek is in high-flying good form in this excellent talk/interview. Host, Aaron Bastani, knows how to deal with his subject and lets Slavoj riff fairly freely, knowing exactly when to step in and ask the right questions to inspire his subject. Thank goodness for this right now. I really enjoyed it.
i love zizek - i disagree with him, then he convinces me, then he switches positions mid-interview and convinces me of that position too - so much fun. i'm not sure engaging with him ever makes me smarter, but it always makes me happier
Can we have a moment of appreciation for Aaron’s professionalism. He is a fantastic interviewer (as well as a great source of information). 👏 I would have loved this to be more of a discussion but that is very difficult with Zizek. Aaron knew that and adapted to it accordingly, not getting frustrated and clarifying points at key times. Very impressive.
1:30:10 Aaron's professionalism soared to a new level when he did not correct Zizek upon hearing that Iran is totally different from OTHER Arab countries.
Absolutely, the interviews with John Gray and Zizek were brilliantly managed. Norman Finkelstein next? Harare? Chomsky? There are always speakers with different views from across the political spectrum.
I enjoyed this. I wrote my Master's thesis on Zizek some years ago and still like to check in with him from time to time. Interviewer wasn't "an idiot" and let the man speak, while also following up where it wasn't clear Zizek had answered the point. Excellent sound quality by the way.
I've never seen an interviewer both let Žižek go on his trademark wild tangents and steer the conversation in a clear trajectory at the same time. Bravo!
Downstream has been exceptional lately, at a critical point in our time. I must say this might be the greatest Zizek interview. His points about Robespierre, Bolivia, 1968 and the task of the left are fascinating. Also spot on about anti semitism being absorbed as part of the growing anti western coalition. Also loved the point made by Trotsky on Ukraine, will have to look that up.
You really have to marvel at his great mind. I love his animated expressions which really help us to better understand his thinking. Hats off to Aaron, too for giving Slavoj the space to express fully his ideas. It was so refreshing to see the discussion transcend left/right politics and challenge mainstream narratives. One of your best yet. Bravo Novara Media. 👏
Well, so far Aaron has been the only interviewer I've seen that stands up to the tsunami of random thoughts, including plenty of BS that explodes out in the heat of the moment, that Slavoj spews... I'd have no objection to him interrupting more and keeping things in some kind of (self)coherent track. Even so, nice job! "Is that why you wrote 1000 pages on Hegel during the Arab Spring?" 🤣🤣 Simply the best😎❤️
seriously a great interview. Novara has been putting out the best content on the net, incredibly nuanced, thank you. Zizek is always so incredibly insightful and genuine
Well this has cheered me up no end. A very heart warming interview. Once I have figured out away to cancel my momentum subscription, I'll make the regular payment to Novara instead.
The unrealized potential of Palestinian oil and gas reserves. Oil and natural gas resources in the occupied Palestinian territory could generate hundreds of billions of dollars for development. Geologists and resources economists have confirmed that the occupied Palestinian territory (oPt) lies above sizeable reservoirs of oil and natural gas wealth, in Area C of the West Bank and the Mediterranean coast off the Gaza Strip, according to a recent UNCTAD study. Israel approves development of gas field off the coast of the Gaza Strip and expel all Palestinians from Gaza, recommends Israeli intelligence ministry document revealed and shows how the idea of population transfer to the Sinai is reaching official discussions. Europe wants gas from Israel due to that is why they do nothing and let genocide continue.
The chosenites have a three thousand year-old claim on that land based on an invisible sky God's inchorent rantings. They will suck ALL the Oil & Gas out of that land and the Gazans & the Westbank Palestinians won't know what hit'em. 😅
Hmmmm! Good to see someone mentioning this. I don't know anything about the oil in that Region but I do know that in 2000 they detected 1.5 TRILLION cubic feet of natural Gas in the Gaza Strip. They now call it "Gaza Marine." As far as I know the discussions between Israel, Palestine, UK and others are still ongoing (or until recently) For me, this changes the whole, bloody, sordid, narrative. Makes me question If it's a Proxy war and If so, then I've lost faith in HUMANITY....to kill so inhumanely for GREED. I just think this information should be more publicaly discussed....it's such a Red flag. ( I was getting constantly blocked with this comment.....so let"s See now)
this guy is on another level of knowledge. I really appreciate zizek for his honesty and even though his thoughts are all over the place i could understand his ideas
Great conversation. I listen to a lot of zizek and naturally that leads to hearing him say things multiple times. Aaron, well done for bringing more out of him with your questions and points of contention!
It was like a light breeze pushed the window open …..and a while later a gust of fresh air came through and was welcomed…..Zizek at his best. Keep it up guys , you are entering the debate just in time , good luck.
That‘s what I thought as well. I was waiting for the disagreement that never occurred - no wonder I thought, Janis‘ analysis is brillant regarding the accumulation of capital by online service platforms like Alphabet/Amazon asf. and describing it as „rent“.
MCC has a whole new meaning! Fabulous discussion threading together events in history. Definitely need Slavoj to be invited back for your new Novara History channel. 1968 and all that!
He repeats this Bhagwad Geeta story a lot while not disseminating why it is wrong, just because it was used by someone doesn't make it a horrific book, the direct conclusion is that the person's interpretation of it was horrific. This is something I wouldn't expect of a philosopher to do.
This philosopher can never stop talking. 😂 Whew. The host did a wonderful job managing the intense energy! First time watching this channel. It was very interesting. I will subscribe.
I love this guy. He's such an easygoing mad man, has so many thoughts I've never explored, even though I disagree with many (possibly most) - It would be a genuine pleasure to sit down and have a talk.
if communism was going to result in anything other than authoritarianism it'd have got there by now in my humble opinion. I'm more Libertarian for the same reason I think communism appeals to most people
@@NiskaMagnusson I was a kid when communism was around so I feel I didn't have a fair chance to judge it myself as I would now that I am older. I wanted to have my own opinion about it and now yeah, it maybe too late, but I still find it fascinating.
What I found the most important take away from this “ I don’t have the answers for everything” and “I got it wrong” the honesty that it takes to admit that is something to work from. Violence is not the answer to the problems in the world, discussion, compromise and cooperation can get us all so much further.
UA-cam algorithm making me listen to a one hour Zizek lecture overlapped with female aramaic christian chants in the bg is peak internet experience and i'm loving it
Absolutely right about Iran and it's rich history and culture, not to mention it was the Persian Empire that rebuilt Jerusalem but now they are forbade from seeking any claim over it. I consider that part of the reason the west tries so hard to alienate Iran as it has the potential to unite the Arab world more than any other nation.
The West tries to alienate Iran because we consider them "baddies." And with good reason, too. Take a look at their allies. Their leaders, their values, belief's and morals. Wake up.
As you well said and that's the mistake Zizek made, Iranians are Persian and not Arabic. Also he made a bad comparison between Iran and the Arabic countries that didn't make sense. Iran so far didn't have a war and most of the Arab countries were either invaded and destroyed or had government change. When he says he is surprised Iran still has a big Civic society, philosophers and it's a lively intellectual country he seems not to realize Arab countries also used to have them but all those professionals either died during the wars or had to emigrate.
@@ramplense01 You say Iran didn't have a war but I think the 80s and Iraq would maybe disagree. Also, the peaceful revolution and overthrow of the shah led to a major shift not just in politics, also in society more generally and this caused more progressive thinkers and ideas of be overtaken or overrun. I am a great admirer of the longer history of Persia and it's leaders as well as the Zoroastrian religion which still exists today. Although I do not agree with some of the stricter religious adherence and laws I also think Iran suffers more from outside interference as opposed to bad government or governance.
You have now both introduced me to a great mind (John Gray) and conducted a fantastic interview with a modern intellectual giant like Zizek, this is quickly becoming my new favourite channel!
@@robertbrandywine really, any particular reason why? I found his views on the crisis of liberal values & democracy straining under capitalism refreshing, if not well argued and poignant, when compared to the many idealistic accounts of globalisation that are starting to curdle given recent events. Many of his takes do seem quite traditionally conservative and leaning pessimistic at times so I can understand why he wouldn’t be everybody’s cup of tea though.
Just a few things. He's wrong about Ukraine and accepts the Ukrainian propaganda. Wrong about Russia having any designs on the Baltic states. China hasn't expanded into Latin America or Africa, or anywhere else. He thinks Liberal Democracy is threatened by populism when actually populism is true democracy. He's wrong about anti-semitism, since I don't believe being anti-Israel is anti-semitism. He thinks Trump might be re-elected. I do agree with him that HS2 should be canceled. I also found enlightening his idea that under Liberalism the government can't do anything. @@conorknapp6764
Aaron Baastani, out of respect, was being extra polite and didn't correct Slavoj Zizek, when he said that, 'Iran is not like the other Arab states.' Iran is not an arab country and Iranians are not Arabs. Iranians ethnically are 'Persians.'
@@captainskylight942that's the point. No one is really much more than this. Monkey. Typing. Sorry for the horror and absurdity of it all. Did you think you were going to transcend reality listening to someone from this gen? My guess as to what he would say. Not hard.
@@captainskylight942 Zizek is hard to follow if you're not paying attention, granted, but no more to offer than a monkey with a typewriter? Dismissing people doesn't actually prove anything, right or wrong. It says more about you than it does about him.
It was FANTAstic. I was in one of his post-pandemic conferences in Spain, where I'm from. But lately I lost Zizej's track and I confess I was missing and wondering what he had to say about this every time more feroceous times we survive in. Big thanks for this, honestly, and for the great team work that the video suggest. Is not easy to interview Slavoj for obvious reasons. But the presenter shows lot of calm and expertice on listening and also trying to managing his volcano behaviour, the explosive, unpredictable and copious lots of lava of his argumentation.
But not sure Slavoj would want to be known as 'moral' ... or even an 'authority'. He's certainly passionate on most levels. He'd prob be up for a debate on moral authorities :)
@@00st307-m - Oh for sure man, yeah. I listen to Mozart lectures with dirty jokes on UA-cam all the time. All the cool kids love when Mozart makes fart jokes while asserting his moral authority. Say ... did you happen to eat many paint chip when you were a child?
Zizek referring to BDS as "Boycott, Divest & So on" is surely some kind of exquisite self-parody
Zizek has always had a tendency to make melodramatic overstatements.
😂fully
I was hoping for “LGBTQ & so on & so on” when they were discussing it
His Millennial snark has been on another level since before Millennials existed
The fidelcastro meaning was great too, haha- i f love this guy...
Producer: 'Tell stories if you want...'
Slavoj: 'No, don't say this to a madman!'
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I had to laugh so hard
That was great 😂
Well, he does sound like a mad man. he produces no arguments - merely opinions here - and the interviewer is fully to blame.
@@Infotainment-cb6cythere are a million academics and philosophers out making serious well thought out arguments, go read them and let zizek be zizek. You don’t always have to agree with him or think he’s the most thorough guy in the world but he’s one of a kind.
Why are people so negative about me being a person without any conditional realization of my life or the life of the mind on an experiential I of not being itself dulled in terms of what I want to be differententiated as the only other of you ?
I'm so happy to see Zizek still energetic and in good spirits.
This man is one chronic manic episode, he will be like that till his last day
@@NS-xt5wvas well as Da Vinci
@@Ankhar2332 nope.
Two more "stupid political" books as well (my favorite)
I think people should watch documentaries such as "Europa The Last Battle" or "The Greatest Story Never Told" for a glimpse of historical facts.
Staying sober in this damned world just might be the best advice you can get.
Keep your head on a swivel.
No, I refuse!
Why?
@@dbarker7794 Try it the other way, come back and report.
@@koschmx Yeah, I already got allergies!
When I run a DnD game, one of my NPC wizards always speaks like Žižek. It's alway the most popular NPC. 😄
I’d love to see Zizek appear in one of the AI Presidents D&D campaigns. 😅😅😅😅😅
Zizek: "What style are you used to here?"
Team: "Tell stories if you want..."
Zizek: "Don't tell this to a madman!" _proceeds to tell a story_ 😂
...about how mad he is :)
I'd love to watch an interview without a deadline to be finished, to see how long it lasts. Zizek is so passionate about talking about important topics, I think he would spend two days in a row speaking non stop. And I would totally listen to it.
I got into a very interesting Žižek style conversation with a person I met in a hostel kitchen this summer. We spent the next 3 nights (yes, until dawn!) in that kitchen. It totally is possible!
Read his "stupid books about politicks which are two, three hundred of pages" (his quote)
Dude imagine Zizek as an anime girl vtuber but with a good voice changer/voice synthesizer technology.
@@aoeu256 This is a wonderful idea. It would shift the IQ of younger generations up by a statistically significant amount. Now all we have to do is to convince Zizek…
He is trying hard not to offend anybody. Just another ticktock type celebrity.
As a son to a Native American, and father to Native Amazonian children, we all say: Welcome to the End of the World, we've been waiting for you!
Oh, are you one of the Quetzalcoatl’s collective?
@@xuzeh No idea what that is, sorry.
What do you mean? Do you mean climate change?
@@FloatingErgonaut No, I think they mean the end of the world came earlier to the Native Americans (specifically) during the Native American genocide that created the modern-day political order of the Americas.
@@LizApizaaSuccinct and precise, thank you.
I have never seen someone handle Zizek as a guest so well. He tends to go over the same points in every interview I find, but you managed to squeeze a lot of interesting things out of him that I haven't heard before. Well done.
A very *very* fruitful and addictive conversation in whicht many different topics were mentioned and analized.
Žižek has the same energy he had 10 years ago and you managed to let him speak out while still non-invasively guiding him.
Greets to Slavoj from his old homecountry.
Žižek preaching fascism helped bring down the very country you've got in your avatar.
@@NikolaAvramov reci mu brate. Staljinisti kao on treba da zavrse tamo gde treba. Zamisli da slavis coveka i bude ti idol neko ko je poubijao 200 miliona "svojih" ljudi. Ajmo udri po istini kazem pod navodnicima "svojih" jer on sam nije bio Rus vec jedno obicno cionisticko govno kao i onaj njegov Lenjin obojca skolovani u Austriji. Cak i njegova cerka je uspela da pobegne od njega u Ameriku.
Yes fruitful. He even says Juice
Is your username a merauder refference
seeing him guided non invasively is ok, but personally i like it better when the interviewer leads him to the point using fully penetrative interviewing techniques
😂...I knew about this man already but in first minute he made me want to bow to him..."Never get drunk in public, world is a dangerous place and someone will use your moment of not being sober to undermine you".....😂....So true.
The mind can be just as dangerous and do the same things.
@@Virjunior01 Well, everything in the world has a good side and bad side. Important is to know, to understand, to try to avoid doing anyone any harm but remaining true to yourself. You are right, a pen can be mightier than the sword.
that is actually an old chinese saying 😂
@@benzpinto Many things "European" are actually old Chinese 😉. Pasta, silk, latest IPhone 🤣
No it’s not… that’s just paranoia
Zizek is so palpably excited about discussing ideas. He's like a child at play.
He's brilliant and it excites him to think
He's literally a child at play - hence his confession of loving eating at McDonalds.
@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 Children like mcdonalds because they don't know any better.
Therefore Zizek literally internalizes consumer culture . @@gethelp6271
Yeah, childish- not child-like
This is honestly the best interview with Zizek I’ve ever seen. You’re awesome, it’s good you let him speak and not rush him but also it’s clear you’ve done your research as your questions are really relevant and great to lead the discussion. Well done, subscribed!
This guy is an absolute joke, he has said nothing new since 2010 🤣. He's like the Chris Collinsowrth of Political Science.
@@robmartin5448 Maybe because there was nothing new to talk about since 2010
@@robmartin5448 2010??? Eons ago.
@@robmartin5448It’s not meant to be an entertainment product like a show or movie franchise.
When your theories fit future activities, why modify@@robmartin5448 Nice trumpian rhetoric
I can’t believe I just found this now. As a regular viewer of both Novara episodes and Slavoj’s lectures it is an unbelievable combination
He is chaotic and I here for it😂❤ I love how productive he is (3 books a year!? wow) and he has sparks in his eyes while discussing his ideas. Admirable❤ ❤❤
One of the very rare occasions where Zizek is actually engaging with his interviewer and calmly going through his points
Zizek?
Calmly?
My god, I had to tie my laptop down. it was jumping all over the place as soon the video started 😄
By the way, this is a compliment to Mr Zizek.
Tbf as the video goes on, rambling and verbose Zizek begins to re-emerge 🥹
@@ryandudley3616
We wouldn't want him to change though, would we?
@@markpostgate2551gota be honest.. I prefer when he gets to the point of what he actually has to say 😵💫 all that rambly digression stuff drives me a bit loopy, especially when it relates to a question that’s been posed by the interviewer regarding some urgent issue or other
@@ryandudley3616
It makes me laugh when in a middle of a ramble he says "what was your question again?"
I love these Downstreams. Aaron floated the idea on Friday of a Novara history channel. It would be amazing. I hope it becomes a reality one day.
Agreed. He used to make great little history segments which I found really interesting and enjoyable. Not sure why they stopped making those, but I would happily see them return, or maybe a once-per-week history themed podcast episode similar to Downstream
@@robertwinslade3104 Probably because it takes time and no one is paying for it!
This generation is allergic to paying for anything on the internet yet they want their favorite platforms to expand.
Ridiculous.
What was meant by "history"? World history? Modern Western civilisations history? History as a series of cycles? History of thought movements (just the modern ones or all of them)?
@@stephanieking4444 history is shit that happened in the past.
The interview starts at 7:40 but the fun starts at 0:00
the funeral of common sense starts at 0:00
@@jumolbureanu2415at the 0:00 of the universe it started
00:03 Juice should be valued and not threatened.
02:34 Stay sober and vigilant to recognize attacks.
07:32 We live in dangerous times and thinking is needed.
10:22 Revolutionary movements can have unintended consequences.
16:09 The film 'Oppenheimer' received backlash in India for the portrayal of Bhagavad Gita in a sexual context.
18:34 The left should focus on building a broad coalition instead of engaging in divisive censoring.
23:53 Safety of social order is essential for normal life.
26:23 Leftist should focus on changing power structure for real impact
31:37 Robespierre consciously risked his life to stop the horror of Terror
34:06 Violent measures can lead to a better state in the long run.
39:38 Violence in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict can lead to catastrophic consequences for all sides.
42:19 Putin aims to create a perverted anti-Western coalition, using issues like feminism, homosexuality, and anti-Semitism to fight against the West.
47:33 The rise of European Jewry is intertwined with the idea of cosmopolitanism.
50:09 Leftist anti-Semitism is a sign of a problem with their leftism.
55:14 The result of granting full citizenship rights to Jews was a stronger form of anti-Semitism.
57:58 The legacy of modern Europe, with its strong sovereign nation-states, is a catastrophe today.
1:02:46 Modernization through controlled capitalism and national traditions
1:05:06 A new form of power is emerging in today's global economy, where conglomerates and mega corporations exploit both productive capitalists and workers.
1:10:10 Maintaining support for Ukraine to maintain the military stalemate is the best option.
1:12:24 Putin's view on Ukraine and his plans for decommunization
1:16:54 The decline of the United States may lead to the end of Western Civilization.
1:19:03 Global rise of extreme right-wing parties and the potential for a new form of fascist capitalism.
1:24:13 Socialism taught us that actual freedom requires certain material conditions.
1:27:08 Preparing for emergency states and addressing ecological catastrophes is crucial to counter right-wing authoritarianism.
1:31:36 The left analyzes underdevelopment caused by global capital, but fails to apply this analysis to the topic of occupation capitalist underdevelopment.
1:34:16 American intervention in Iraq led to the rise of ISIS and increased Iranian influence.
1:39:13 Be cautious of toxic relationships and false admiration for other cultures
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Aaron PLEASE interview Zizek again. You have helped me understand so much about things he usually has trouble explaining because you ask him provocative questions. Incredible.
Really really interesting conversation! Zizek's unconventional way of putting things in perspective (and sometimes a bit overwhelming lol!) is just amazing and you did a great job managing it Aaron. Things I wanted to hear from a leftie with honesty for a long time, and Zizek just delivered that so well.
My God, what a spectacular gadfly Žižek is. The more I hear from him, the more I like him.
Also, props to Bastani for the analysis of the Chinese economy through the lens of car sales. That was a good approach.
Gotta love how early the pro-fascist trolls have arrived. Good sign. Keep it up Slavoj and Novara.
it is funny. if they're human trolls then at least they're punctual; if they're bots then all credit to their coders.
@@ianalmond4733
Punctuality is terribly underrated these days, imho.
Zizek thinks that Israel has a right to exist. he support settler colonialism and is closer to a fascist than being on the left.
you are not part of the left at all..
you would have supported apartheid South Africa and European colonialism back in the day...
Telling how Novara are so prepared to platform right-wing cisgender transphobes over the age of 50 but not left-wing trans people over the age of 50. We get the message.
Communism is fascism.
Žižek is in high-flying good form in this excellent talk/interview. Host, Aaron Bastani, knows how to deal with his subject and lets Slavoj riff fairly freely, knowing exactly when to step in and ask the right questions to inspire his subject. Thank goodness for this right now. I really enjoyed it.
He is a boring ranter. anyone can do this. he dislikes real interviews cause he has no arguments to counter.
Zizek looked so happy and engaged talking with Aaron. Very happy I found this show. Definitely, perspectives that we're lacking.
i love zizek - i disagree with him, then he convinces me, then he switches positions mid-interview and convinces me of that position too - so much fun. i'm not sure engaging with him ever makes me smarter, but it always makes me happier
hes a hypocrit playing both sides then?
@@PazLeBonwhat are the sides?
@@mattjk5299 no idea, i was just being logical to the commentor and being faceous;)
@@PazLeBon I do that a lot online too :) carry on
He's a dialectician
Can we have a moment of appreciation for Aaron’s professionalism. He is a fantastic interviewer (as well as a great source of information). 👏
I would have loved this to be more of a discussion but that is very difficult with Zizek. Aaron knew that and adapted to it accordingly, not getting frustrated and clarifying points at key times. Very impressive.
Totally agree. Zizek is fascinating but very frustrating. Having a dialogue with him is so difficult, but Aaron rode with it.
1:30:10 Aaron's professionalism soared to a new level when he did not correct Zizek upon hearing that Iran is totally different from OTHER Arab countries.
Absolutely, the interviews with John Gray and Zizek were brilliantly managed. Norman Finkelstein next? Harare? Chomsky? There are always speakers with different views from across the political spectrum.
@@gerryenglish3122 I would really love to have Chomsky on ...
💯
Can’t help but laugh every time Zizek says “my God”
cultural versus religious christianity
@@CyberspacedLonerI like this dichotomy, Cultural God and Religious God.
I would like to se Žižek-but-every-time-he-says-My-God-video-speeds-up type of video.
@@user-qi7ot3vn2y it would be funnier if he curled up and started to autofellate
And so on and so on
I enjoyed this. I wrote my Master's thesis on Zizek some years ago and still like to check in with him from time to time. Interviewer wasn't "an idiot" and let the man speak, while also following up where it wasn't clear Zizek had answered the point. Excellent sound quality by the way.
I've never seen an interviewer both let Žižek go on his trademark wild tangents and steer the conversation in a clear trajectory at the same time. Bravo!
Downstream has been exceptional lately, at a critical point in our time. I must say this might be the greatest Zizek interview. His points about Robespierre, Bolivia, 1968 and the task of the left are fascinating. Also spot on about anti semitism being absorbed as part of the growing anti western coalition. Also loved the point made by Trotsky on Ukraine, will have to look that up.
I love it when he announces multiple conclusions.
Yes, a fantastic conversation.... 🤓😀
Greetings from another part of Ex-Yugoslavia.
Pessimistic in theory, optimistic in Praxis, always. ❤️
You really have to marvel at his great mind. I love his animated expressions which really help us to better understand his thinking. Hats off to Aaron, too for giving Slavoj the space to express fully his ideas. It was so refreshing to see the discussion transcend left/right politics and challenge mainstream narratives. One of your best yet. Bravo Novara Media. 👏
Well, so far Aaron has been the only interviewer I've seen that stands up to the tsunami of random thoughts, including plenty of BS that explodes out in the heat of the moment, that Slavoj spews... I'd have no objection to him interrupting more and keeping things in some kind of (self)coherent track. Even so, nice job! "Is that why you wrote 1000 pages on Hegel during the Arab Spring?" 🤣🤣 Simply the best😎❤️
The multiplicity of agreement/disagreement/nitpicking is exactly what Zizek’s style of communication encourages. He would love this comment section
seriously a great interview. Novara has been putting out the best content on the net, incredibly nuanced, thank you. Zizek is always so incredibly insightful and genuine
Well this has cheered me up no end.
A very heart warming interview.
Once I have figured out away to cancel my momentum subscription, I'll make the regular payment to Novara instead.
Love how they just fade out at the end cos Slavoj's never gonna stop talking 😂❤
Some say the interview is still going today
Aaron is such a phenomenal interviewer, the interaction is always interesting and fun
The unrealized potential of Palestinian oil and gas reserves. Oil and natural gas resources in the occupied Palestinian territory could generate hundreds of billions of dollars for development.
Geologists and resources economists have confirmed that the occupied Palestinian territory (oPt) lies above sizeable reservoirs of oil and natural gas wealth, in Area C of the West Bank and the Mediterranean coast off the Gaza Strip, according to a recent UNCTAD study.
Israel approves development of gas field off the coast of the Gaza Strip and expel all Palestinians from Gaza, recommends Israeli intelligence ministry document revealed and shows how the idea of population transfer to the Sinai is reaching official discussions.
Europe wants gas from Israel due to that is why they do nothing and let genocide continue.
Israel is building the East Mediterranean Pipeline to transport the Gaza natural gas to Greece. They've been working on it for awhile.
The chosenites have a three thousand year-old claim on that land based on an invisible sky God's inchorent rantings.
They will suck ALL the Oil & Gas out of that land and the Gazans & the Westbank Palestinians won't know what hit'em. 😅
Hmmmm! Good to see someone mentioning this. I don't know anything about the oil in that Region but I do know
that in 2000 they detected 1.5 TRILLION cubic feet of natural Gas in the Gaza Strip. They now call it "Gaza Marine."
As far as I know the discussions between Israel, Palestine, UK and others are still ongoing (or until recently)
For me, this changes the whole, bloody, sordid, narrative. Makes me question If it's a Proxy war and If so, then I've lost faith in HUMANITY....to kill so inhumanely for GREED.
I just think this information should be more publicaly discussed....it's such a Red flag.
( I was getting constantly blocked with this comment.....so let"s See now)
12+ trillion worth of hydrocarbons were found in Donbas and Crimea shortly before orcs invaded in 2014
all these reserves will keep the Military and Military Complex (USA) going for a few more years.
this guy is on another level of knowledge. I really appreciate zizek for his honesty and even though his thoughts are all over the place i could understand his ideas
Despite the clickbaity title, this was an actual insightful conversation and it did not go into extreme point of views ... I found it quite useful.
One of the best Zizek I've listened to lately. Thank you!
Spellbinding conversation. I am so happy i listened to it so closely. Thank you.
Love to hear from this Slavoj as i've recently discovered him through searching other topics.
Hes becoming more and more joyous. He knows something we don't.
That speed is the light.
İnşallah
You're easily impressed, speak for yourself. 😆
Probably that the end is near.
@@overdonenames A C C E L E R A T E.
FULL SPEED!
It's like that red-wine fueled conversation at 4 in the morning back in the 80's...❤
Very insightful. When you hear this man talk, he reminds that the world is a complex place and we shouldn't be too eager to judge it.
So good to see him again! :) he's so addictive to listen to! thank you!!
Great conversation. I listen to a lot of zizek and naturally that leads to hearing him say things multiple times. Aaron, well done for bringing more out of him with your questions and points of contention!
Ironic that the world is so afraid of singularity when on every possible level it couldn't be more divided !!
The rich are afraid the singularity will take away thier underserved privilage, usually obtained by keeping others poor.
Two of my favourite people - should be good. It's certainly long overdue.
As commenters have said… wow.. this is a great interview on both sides, thanks for creating!
Rent never went away. Michael Hudson's latest books are really helpful to understand this. They might have their flaws but he deserves to be read.
Speaking of V for Vendetta, I would love to see a downstream with Alan Moore!!!
He's a hermit, never even left the country.
It was like a light breeze pushed the window open …..and a while later a gust of fresh air came through and was welcomed…..Zizek at his best.
Keep it up guys , you are entering the debate just in time , good luck.
This was my fav Zizek video so far. Thanks!!
From South Africa here. True comments on our politics.
I couldn't understand why Slavoj said he disagreed with Varoufakis ideas but just repeated them with different terms.
Usual bs by zizek.
Philosopher things. He's such a hegelian lmao! /jk
That‘s what I thought as well. I was waiting for the disagreement that never occurred - no wonder I thought, Janis‘ analysis is brillant regarding the accumulation of capital by online service platforms like Alphabet/Amazon asf. and describing it as „rent“.
Stellar interview. Very interersting. Thank you.
Please correct mr.Zizek that Iranians are Persians and not another Arab state!
People are interested in your thoughts this is a blessing
only 10 min in and this is the best Zizek interview I’ve ever seen…the best interviewers interrupt with impunity…& you really got him randy….thanks
Amazing interview. Zizek is trully a Mad Genius! 🤯
MCC has a whole new meaning! Fabulous discussion threading together events in history. Definitely need Slavoj to be invited back for your new Novara History channel. 1968 and all that!
Great interview, thank you both.
He repeats this Bhagwad Geeta story a lot while not disseminating why it is wrong, just because it was used by someone doesn't make it a horrific book, the direct conclusion is that the person's interpretation of it was horrific. This is something I wouldn't expect of a philosopher to do.
One of those rare time where I disagree with him
37:06 "...millions of people - first women, then ordinary people..." is the funniest gaff i have ever heard. gotta love Slavoj
“He’s written three books…”
(What?, that doesn’t sound right)
“… this year.”
(There we go, that makes sense.)
No he's written three books THIS YEAR said the interviewer.
What like he's been 'wheeled' out on stage by the 'gatekeepers' on purpose at this stage in the play?
Thank you for this great interview of Zizek. So nuanced and relevant.
Very very good closed caption read -- thank you for posting!
this was a good watch. i put it on cause i love zizek but im subbing cause what a great interviewer!
What a lovely morning with you two I've just had!❤
This is so much fun to listen to. Thank you!
Brilliant interview. Thx guys
I too, am a moderately conservative communist, thanks for walking us through it all Žižek!
so basiccally a faschst then
Using words you don't understand to slander people you don't know online is kinda pathetic.
This philosopher can never stop talking. 😂 Whew. The host did a wonderful job managing the intense energy! First time watching this channel. It was very interesting. I will subscribe.
I love this guy. He's such an easygoing mad man, has so many thoughts I've never explored, even though I disagree with many (possibly most) - It would be a genuine pleasure to sit down and have a talk.
Thank you for this interview. Deeply thought-provoking, on the left we need to continue these sort of conversations.
I want to be a moderately Conservative Communist like Slavoj Zizek. He convinced me.
Welcome, comrade.
He's -->Marxist
if communism was going to result in anything other than authoritarianism it'd have got there by now in my humble opinion. I'm more Libertarian for the same reason I think communism appeals to most people
@@NiskaMagnusson Libertarianism has never worked anywhere and never will because it is a selfish childish fantasy
@@NiskaMagnusson I was a kid when communism was around so I feel I didn't have a fair chance to judge it myself as I would now that I am older. I wanted to have my own opinion about it and now yeah, it maybe too late, but I still find it fascinating.
Aaron is a gem of a journalist I must say. Glad to have him in the mediasphere 🎉
What I found the most important take away from this “ I don’t have the answers for everything” and “I got it wrong” the honesty that it takes to admit that is something to work from.
Violence is not the answer to the problems in the world, discussion, compromise and cooperation can get us all so much further.
UA-cam algorithm making me listen to a one hour Zizek lecture overlapped with female aramaic christian chants in the bg is peak internet experience and i'm loving it
Absolutely right about Iran and it's rich history and culture, not to mention it was the Persian Empire that rebuilt Jerusalem but now they are forbade from seeking any claim over it. I consider that part of the reason the west tries so hard to alienate Iran as it has the potential to unite the Arab world more than any other nation.
The West tries to alienate Iran because we consider them "baddies." And with good reason, too.
Take a look at their allies. Their leaders, their values, belief's and morals.
Wake up.
As you well said and that's the mistake Zizek made, Iranians are Persian and not Arabic. Also he made a bad comparison between Iran and the Arabic countries that didn't make sense. Iran so far didn't have a war and most of the Arab countries were either invaded and destroyed or had government change. When he says he is surprised Iran still has a big Civic society, philosophers and it's a lively intellectual country he seems not to realize Arab countries also used to have them but all those professionals either died during the wars or had to emigrate.
@@ramplense01 You say Iran didn't have a war but I think the 80s and Iraq would maybe disagree. Also, the peaceful revolution and overthrow of the shah led to a major shift not just in politics, also in society more generally and this caused more progressive thinkers and ideas of be overtaken or overrun. I am a great admirer of the longer history of Persia and it's leaders as well as the Zoroastrian religion which still exists today. Although I do not agree with some of the stricter religious adherence and laws I also think Iran suffers more from outside interference as opposed to bad government or governance.
@@EamonCoyle , yes I agree.
@@EamonCoyleI think the Iranian people risking their lives right now to protest the regime ruling over them would disagree
You have now both introduced me to a great mind (John Gray) and conducted a fantastic interview with a modern intellectual giant like Zizek, this is quickly becoming my new favourite channel!
lmao, these things certainly relative
John Gray didn't strike me as a great mind.
@@robertbrandywine really, any particular reason why? I found his views on the crisis of liberal values & democracy straining under capitalism refreshing, if not well argued and poignant, when compared to the many idealistic accounts of globalisation that are starting to curdle given recent events. Many of his takes do seem quite traditionally conservative and leaning pessimistic at times so I can understand why he wouldn’t be everybody’s cup of tea though.
Just a few things. He's wrong about Ukraine and accepts the Ukrainian propaganda. Wrong about Russia having any designs on the Baltic states. China hasn't expanded into Latin America or Africa, or anywhere else. He thinks Liberal Democracy is threatened by populism when actually populism is true democracy. He's wrong about anti-semitism, since I don't believe being anti-Israel is anti-semitism. He thinks Trump might be re-elected. I do agree with him that HS2 should be canceled. I also found enlightening his idea that under Liberalism the government can't do anything. @@conorknapp6764
He's so sweet somehow
supporting imperialism and colonialism like zizek does is not sweet. (NATO, Israel)...
I am not anti-Jews. I feel their pain too. I also recognize Israel as country. I am also a Muslim. We should find a way to live peacefully together.
As a Jew, I feel your pain as well. I agree with you
Aaron Baastani, out of respect, was being extra polite and didn't correct Slavoj Zizek, when he said that, 'Iran is not like the other Arab states.' Iran is not an arab country and Iranians are not Arabs. Iranians ethnically are 'Persians.'
❤ Novara Media is doing so much good right now.
Zizek on Downstream, my gott!
and so on
Sniff-nose rub-sniff
Great discussion. So stimulating, nuanced and recognizing ambiguity.
It's not a discussion. It's an iterview.
It’s not an interview… it’s a rambling monologue designed to disguise the fact that he really has no more to offer than a monkey and a typewriter.
@@captainskylight942that's the point. No one is really much more than this. Monkey. Typing. Sorry for the horror and absurdity of it all. Did you think you were going to transcend reality listening to someone from this gen?
My guess as to what he would say.
Not hard.
@@captainskylight942 Zizek is hard to follow if you're not paying attention, granted, but no more to offer than a monkey with a typewriter? Dismissing people doesn't actually prove anything, right or wrong. It says more about you than it does about him.
It was FANTAstic. I was in one of his post-pandemic conferences in Spain, where I'm from. But lately I lost Zizej's track and I confess I was missing and wondering what he had to say about this every time more feroceous times we survive in. Big thanks for this, honestly, and for the great team work that the video suggest. Is not easy to interview Slavoj for obvious reasons. But the presenter shows lot of calm and expertice on listening and also trying to managing his volcano behaviour, the explosive, unpredictable and copious lots of lava of his argumentation.
Another amazing speaker. Slavonic was very clear and on topic.
Yes!!! Finally Zizek on Novara.
And this shows us that even a great thinker like Slavoj Zizek can sometimes get some things completely wrong.
What did he get wrong?
Hes not getting it wrong, hes consciously defending imperialist agenda
Thank you, Slavoj Zizek. This helps me frame situations/ players of our time more clearly.
I know of nobody else that can tell dirty jokes and assert their moral authority with equal conviction.
But not sure Slavoj would want to be known as 'moral' ... or even an 'authority'. He's certainly passionate on most levels. He'd prob be up for a debate on moral authorities :)
Are you serious? Heard of Mozart? Lots of brilliant people with “authority” in their fields make dirty jokes. What a silly comment.
He's old school disgusting in his sexist " jokes."
@@00st307-m - Oh for sure man, yeah. I listen to Mozart lectures with dirty jokes on UA-cam all the time. All the cool kids love when Mozart makes fart jokes while asserting his moral authority.
Say ... did you happen to eat many paint chip when you were a child?
Žižek is so funny and so smart.. always a good listen…
always a little difficult listed 😂but generally agreed 😊
Wow.. This was hands down, the best Slavoj Zizek talk i've heard, and I also agree 100000000% with him, on all accounts.
That math
@@doctorcrafts 100,00%