0:00 Max Kellerman says Ngannou will likely be favored in the fight. 2:14 Stephen A. Smith argues that Jones will have more to gain in the fight. 3:45 Stephen A. says Jones would be "the baddest man on the planet" if he beat Ngannou.
this is bigger for Francis, Jon Jones is EASILY the LHW and likely overall UFC GOAT in most knowledgeable fans eye's. he doesn't become "more" of the GOAT by winning this just another notch under his belt. the MMA GOAT list is very simple Jon Jones George Saint Pierre Fedor / Anderson Silva you can pick any of those 4 and you have a qualified argument and of those 4 Jones has the best resume with the most impressive wins.
@@jesuskofi1664 he just said he had dinner with Dana and it’s happening ... Dana has no choice , if he wants the UFC to have a card that is going to be must watch in the HW division , that’s the fight ! That’s the money fight even for Dana, so he has an interest to make it work
@Born To Sing With The Guitar Lets not kid ourselves. Jon is scared to fight Ngannou. Already making crazy demands that Dana definitely will laugh at. I guess it's lewis fight next. Anyone fight Ngannou that fought stipee they going to sleep by a kick or punch. Lol. I agree with most jones is not as good as stipee. He will get koed in first round
@r g why did he come to Jan’s fight vs Reyes and raise his hands like he wanted to give Jan the fight? Then moves to heavyweight saying no competition only to ask huge money against Ngannou? Jones a fraud lol. I’ll only believe him when he is in the octagon standing opposite Ngannou about to get knocked out.
@@obitriceforlife5771 Well put remember the years when he talked that mess about moving up to fight cain and Carwin. Lmao what happened is.jones is a fraud. Most of.his career is fighting middleweights who moved up to lhw or former champs who washed up like rampage and shogun Rua
Jones in four rounds and Ill tell you why. Jon is a technician and very alert. I see Jon breaking him down and tiring him out in the early -middle rounds getting on his bicycle and closing the slow in the 4th. By the time they get in the octagon Jon will know his opponents strengths and weaknesses and can target those weak spots like almost no other. Its ashamed his career is associated with PEDs skill level alone.
Jones is already the greatest of al time. He became the champ at 23 and has held it against every opponent for a decade. I don't even like the guy but if he wins this it just adds to his legacy.
He would be the greatest because we know that the heavyweight champion can defeat to anybody in lower divisions. You can say that GSP is one of the GOATs but can't say he is the baddest man... The best of all... Who can beat anybody. Right now that man is Ngannou. Ngannou would kill Adesayana, Kamaru, Khabib...!!
I honestly think Jones is the MMA GOAT as it is anyway. The length of his reign, the quality of his opponents, his finish rate, all are spectacular and he's never truly lost.
So when the “monsters” catch up or make giant strides in takedown defense the gap is most likely closed between stipe and his contemporaries...as we witnessed.
Actually, I agree with him. Francis could knock out two more HW contenders and be a huge star. But, with that one victory, Jones could retire as the greatest fighter of all time.
@@KingstonHawke bro people are so irrational I get sas said something stupid with the cowboy Conor fight but that was the only time. His take here isn’t bad I also feel like jones has more to gain here. People just hate because everyone else hates no one is actually listening and coming up with opinions themselves.
@@tjleaf3510 pls even gsp or silva is better than khabib this guy just beat 4 title defence lol jon 15 casuals like you are the reason jon is not getting respect he is like ali of this sport
@@kshitijdobriyal3003 Juicy Jones cheated and the refs saved him multiple times. He can’t be the GOAT. Khabib was never even hurt once lmao. YOU must be the casual
@@pipedown6882 its ignorant and racist to think people dont like jones only because theyre "racist". people dont like jones because he fled a hit and run, got caught doping numerous times and is unlikable as a person. if he wasn't an incredible athlete he would be in jail. in the ring hes a cheater who regularly pokes eyes and commits illegal blows. he still always wins though. and those same people like daniel cormier because hes wholesome, an olympic champion, and honest.
@@calmdown9094 eye poke bruh really that ain’t on purpose. And I’m not here to talk about the mans past nobody is perfect. It’s ignorant to think that some racist people don’t like him because he’s black you know what world we live in Right or do you live under a rock .. my opinion is just as valid as yours if your not racist and don’t hate him cause he’s black good for you but don’t try to give the rest of them a pass .
@@pipedown6882 okay anyone who has EVER watched a fight, knows he dangles his fingers, and is KNOWN for eyepokes. get real. and pointing out 2% of people and acting like they make up the majority is intellectually dishonest. we all know why hes unpopular, and its not because hes black, in a sport that is heavvvvvillllllyyyyyy non america non white. if we can use that argument, everyone who trashes khabib must hate non americans, right?
Its really that simple SAS trying to inject media narrative to detract from the man's legend. as if having a DUI doesnt make you the GOAT as if being a jackass outside the Octagon doesn't make you the GOAT
@@xoat6 gsp, less title defenses. Was finished in two title fights. Jones has more title defenses and never lost a title fight. Jones has more finishes as well
That would be insane lol. I feel like if jones did knock him out it would most likely be a tko and not ko. Hard for me to see Francis with all that mass getting knocked out cold by someone smaller than him especially considering he has a great chin as well. The only way I see Jones winning by tko is if he lands a powerful flush head kick clean on Francis, and then drops him and ground and pounds him to a stoppage. that’s the only way I see Jones winning by knockout. Either way if he did do that he would be the undisputed GOAT.
How're we still questioning Jon's legacy as a fighter still?! A win over Francis would definitely cement his legacy BUT he's already proved to be as great as advertised, nobody has the resume he has
@@seveneleven2198 I don't know. I stopped listening to him a long time ago. All I know is he knows basketball and all other sports he knows what all the other casual fans know. Most tv people aren't experts on what they cover. Look at Katie Nolan or mina kimes....do you think anyone pays attention to their analysis
He should of lost multiple fights but the judges are a bit dodgy, Reyes got robbed and so did Gustavoson but Jones is still probably the goat anyway despite that.
You clowns that say Jones lost to Reyes, Gustaffson are the problem of the MMA community today. You can hate a fighter as that's what you're good at, but peddling phoney narratives about a fight seen by millions makes you seem foolish. Some of you even say Santos beat Jones😂🤣 You guys are so bitter i wonder how you go through life.
@@ubilicious1887 Jones was the one who got me into MMA and is in my top 3 favourite fighters, doesn’t mean I have to be blatantly oblivious to what happened in the fight. Think everyone knows your the clown bro 🤡
@@King-jk9or only go off actual results, saying what could have and should have been makes it seem like you just can't except results when they don't meet YOUR expectations.
Stephen A does not know UFC. Bones will be one of the greatest fighters ever if he retired today and applied to work at Walmart. This fight just adds to his legacy.
Jon has the advantage. If you watch his fights he approaches with a different fighting style every time. There are always surprises but the odds are in Jons favor based on Ngannou's stamina. I am more interested in why people think Ngannou would win seeing how much slower he is. He has only one strength going into this and if Jon can eat Cormier's punches then he stands a very good chance. If I were Ngannou I would be concerned.
I think Jones will rise to the level of his COMPETITION. I could be wrong but I felt like Jones just looked unmotivated his last several fights at LHW and i thinks it’s because he wiped out the division like 2-3 times. I feel like he didn’t have the same motivation he once had in that division anymore which is why his hasn’t looked like his best self these past couple fights. I really think if he does agree to fight Francis I believe we will see Jones RISE to the level of his competition and we’ll see a version of him that we haven’t seen in his past several fights. That’s my opinion but I could be wrong, we’ll see.
Jones I trust more in deeper water (If it goes 5 rounds ...but against Nnganou it's in a kiddie pool lol.. Jones game plan will be to muddy up the fight....the Greco-Roman will help....but needs to be 250+ ish to compete imo ...
Jon Jones is already the GOAT of MMA. Its like Barry Bonds their careers before any of the steroids stuff is hall of fame/GOAT level win or lose this just adds to it.
Exactly. Ngannou will have to suffer before the fight. JBJ's muscles will literally be full go, hydrated asf. Ngannou won't get past round 2 with an aggressive champ, stipe or JBJ. Stipe wasn't aggressive at all... Lmao
He will fail the test for steroids.. for the 6th time ... how he wasn’t banned like any other fighter the 1st time is a testament to the shallowness of not only judge paying but rule breaking of Dana White who set most rules himself..
The greatest doesn’t get caught poking eyes, taking steroids, doing countless amounts of blow, and lose to DC multiple times. Sorry little guy but no. Goats also don’t need to have video cameras taping the other team or deflate footballs to get their little girly hands around them. Who even is thinking about Brady when watching a video on fighting. Get a life.
Not even a Brady fan, but its unfair to put Brady in with Jon Jones. Jon Jones was completing with an unfair advantage. He has an asterisk next to his name, sorry. 🤷🏿♂️
@@brianstollings6416 So GOAT is determined by personality and morality and not skills and record? I thought this was fighting not diplomatic relations.
Brady is Brady and Jones is Jones. Bones might be the GOAT, but Jones has a bunch of asterisks by his name. For one, Dominick Reyes did beat him in my opinion. Second, Jones has the roid thing against him. Third, Jones has a lot of issues outside the cage. I'd probably agree with you that Bones is probably the GOAT. But if he beats Ngannou, it will help his case a great deal. Regarding Brady...I think you're better off making a Floyd Mayweather to Jones comparison. Or perhaps Ali to Jones. Football is a team sport.
The only chance jones to beat him if hes not clean there is no way he can fight a monster like Francis without using something specially when jones is fighting in different weight class vs one of the heaviest in the heavyweight jones will get his head knocked out if he faught like he did in his last 3 fights
If he wasn’t the MMA villain right now he’d already be seen universally as the GOAT. Who else came on to the scene and destroyed LEGENDs in the sport of MMA? Part of the early hate he got was because he was beating fan favorite fighters easily.
@@jesuskofi1664 Ten years ago when he was a baby he fought Lyoto The Dragon Machida, Quinton Rampage Jackson, Vitor Belfort and Rashad Evans CONSECUTIVELY and beat them easily. Khabib had 22 fights before he fought a household name it’s not the same. That said he is the goat of his division.
@@derekd7756 I’m gonna reveal something you might not have known. Almost everyone in the UFC was taking TRT supplements sanctioned by the UFC until a not that long ago. So in the immortal words of Bill Burr our roided up guy beat your roided up guy.
“If Jones wins the fight he’s the best ever” what they’ve said about many of his last fights. Still standing undefeated, I think he’s been the best ever already.
@@Slim-Clips how can you say he has a better chin? Jones has never even been dropped(didn't get dropped against Reyes if anyone tries to make that argument). Stipe has been finished 3 times, once against DC who Jones beat twice easily. I'd be rooting for Ngannou but Jones has one of the most underrated chins in the game
Jon Jones never been submitted or ko’d like gsp. Also has more title defenses than gsp Jon Jones has more title defenses than khabib. Beat more former champions than Khabib. Even khabib’s father said Jones was the best fighter he has ever seen Jon Jones is currently #1 on the ufc p4p list.
@FD MZ Lol 😂😂 he beat 6 former ufc champs,more than anyone in history defended his title more than any one in history beat more hall of famers than anyone in history champ for a decade ! khabib,conor,usman,israel were no bodies when Jones became champ and he is still 33. ! The only fighter who I think is more accomplished than Jones is GSP But by no logic/reason one can rank Jones below top 3 ever
Lotta folks forgetting about Jon Jones' last fight with Dominick Reyes. He barely got by in that fight. To think he's just going to run thru Ngannou, is far from reality.
Why Stipe does not deserve a trilogy for the tiebreak? It's only fair. He could of pulled a Mayweather and duck3d Ngannou... He should get 1 more Chance since he gave Francis 1 too.
He lost two title fights in his last 4 fights. He can’t keep getting title shots as it is holding up the division. There are more contenders who need their shot. Let stipe earn it with a fight or two.
Nothing wrong with the debate however when there is no1 who actually knows the ins and outs of MMA involved in the debate it doesn’t spread the best information
If Jones never fights again, he is still TBE. This would just be another notch (very impressive notch) on his belt and it would obviously add to his legend.
@@Nyquwill I mean I guess Khabib since there is no one close to him in his division, but his resume isn’t nearly as impressive as Jons so I agree that Jon is the goat
@@Withxr Yeah it's so weird MMA fans react negatively to Stephen A paying attention to their sport. Stephen A talking about MMA (however he wants to, ignorantly... doesn't matter) means it has become a real sport. It's an honor and a privilege. Be grateful.
0:00 Max Kellerman says Ngannou will likely be favored in the fight.
2:14 Stephen A. Smith argues that Jones will have more to gain in the fight.
3:45 Stephen A. says Jones would be "the baddest man on the planet" if he beat Ngannou.
How do you acknowledge a cheater? @stephen a @espn
this is bigger for Francis, Jon Jones is EASILY the LHW and likely overall UFC GOAT in most knowledgeable fans eye's. he doesn't become "more" of the GOAT by winning this just another notch under his belt.
the MMA GOAT list is very simple
Jon Jones
George Saint Pierre
Fedor / Anderson Silva
you can pick any of those 4 and you have a qualified argument and of those 4 Jones has the best resume with the most impressive wins.
Yall didn't watch ngannou vs Lewis huh
Unnecessary time stamps 😂
GSP the real goat the end
Stephen A saying Max is wrong like he's an MMA expert 💀
Exactly 😂
Right lol
He is an expert, we all day how great Smith was when he was hitting those pads.
max is wrong tho
Preach
When Stephen A writes down his notes before the show he always starts with "this is why you're wrong"
well this fight is not even gonna happen, because jon wants more money and greedy ufc dont want to pay up
UFc feeds their fighters crumbs -$ and left overs ...
😂😂😂
@@jesuskofi1664 he just said he had dinner with Dana and it’s happening ... Dana has no choice , if he wants the UFC to have a card that is going to be must watch in the HW division , that’s the fight ! That’s the money fight even for Dana, so he has an interest to make it work
@@grichkatayou7558 dana dont care because they gets 100 million dollars from espn every year if they put 40 events every year
Ngannou has one of the best stories in UFC history
I want nothing but greatness for him
Legit man
💯💯
Hard Living = Hard Body
Word... go Pats 👊
Facts
Pay up Dana!!!
He won't... yet
Dudes a dickhead that’s the last thing he’ll ever do
@@Ofwudann funny thing is, his head shaped like one
If Jones wins this one, it Makes him Ali, Tyson, and Mayweather all in one. Legitimately the scariest man to ever walk the planet.
@Born To Sing With The Guitar Lets not kid ourselves. Jon is scared to fight Ngannou. Already making crazy demands that Dana definitely will laugh at. I guess it's lewis fight next. Anyone fight Ngannou that fought stipee they going to sleep by a kick or punch. Lol. I agree with most jones is not as good as stipee. He will get koed in first round
Relax buddy
@r g why did he come to Jan’s fight vs Reyes and raise his hands like he wanted to give Jan the fight? Then moves to heavyweight saying no competition only to ask huge money against Ngannou? Jones a fraud lol. I’ll only believe him when he is in the octagon standing opposite Ngannou about to get knocked out.
@@shel0016 how is it he scared when he asked for the fight and started the buzz?
@@obitriceforlife5771 Well put remember the years when he talked that mess about moving up to fight cain and Carwin. Lmao what happened is.jones is a fraud. Most of.his career is fighting middleweights who moved up to lhw or former champs who washed up like rampage and shogun Rua
Stephen: I've known Jon Jones for a very long time, he's a friend of mine.
THAT BROTHA CAN FIGHT NO QUESTION ABOUT IT, I MEAN HE HAS 15 CHAMPIONSHIPS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD
...now having said that
@@mauriciohiure2192 😂😂😂
@@mauriciohiure2192 😄😄😄
He just spoke on the phone with him 😂
Sounds like the lines that democrat said to do dan Quayle in 1988
How to be an ESPN commentator: Call everyone the GOAT
Actually Smith's story is Alot more inspirational than that, do your research.
True! How,How someone tell me how?
"Youre wrong, and heres why"
You think Jones isn’t the goat?
@@conesinker_4209 no he isnt.stop hiding in the 205 division. Move up
Max : “ Stephen A your barber should be fired and I’ll tell you why “ 😭😂😂😂
He’s over 50 years old
@@kobekobe8527 no
@@damienkaihuang yessirrr
Jones in four rounds and Ill tell you why. Jon is a technician and very alert. I see Jon breaking him down and tiring him out in the early -middle rounds getting on his bicycle and closing the slow in the 4th. By the time they get in the octagon Jon will know his opponents strengths and weaknesses and can target those weak spots like almost no other. Its ashamed his career is associated with PEDs skill level alone.
300th like
Jones is already the greatest of al time. He became the champ at 23 and has held it against every opponent for a decade. I don't even like the guy but if he wins this it just adds to his legacy.
He would be the greatest because we know that the heavyweight champion can defeat to anybody in lower divisions. You can say that GSP is one of the GOATs but can't say he is the baddest man... The best of all... Who can beat anybody. Right now that man is Ngannou. Ngannou would kill Adesayana, Kamaru, Khabib...!!
ur a casual sorry
DJ, Gsp, Anderson and khabib are all i the coversation. its very unfair to call jon the goat
he will win jbj
Khabib is the goat 🐐
He is nothing without steroids.. Actually gustaffson 1,reyes and santos beat him but their won got robbed by stupid judges
I honestly think Jones is the MMA GOAT as it is anyway. The length of his reign, the quality of his opponents, his finish rate, all are spectacular and he's never truly lost.
Juice Jones is a coward and cheating low life
@@papaluskask999 like every other ufc fighter
@@dogbreedsareamyth9409 no. Jon jones is the greatest unlike every other fighter🤷
khabibs better
@@AC-mp7cx 😂 khabib don’t even fight anymore like a pan 🍞 cha cha
Stipe was beating all those "monsters" max is talking about
Yeah..... there's a difference between a athletic monster and someone whos better because of his fundamentals without being a freak of nature.
So when the “monsters” catch up or make giant strides in takedown defense the gap is most likely closed between stipe and his contemporaries...as we witnessed.
Stipe beat them with technique and being fast though. He wasn’t destroying guys the way Francis is doing.
Jon beat the guy who beat stipe 😳
@@bfed662 but I mean lost to stripe first time and Jon Jones is better at takedowns and getting people on the floor..... idk🤷♂️
I'm 20 seconds in.. Stephen A hasn't said a word yet I already know he's wrong
Actually, I agree with him. Francis could knock out two more HW contenders and be a huge star. But, with that one victory, Jones could retire as the greatest fighter of all time.
@@KingstonHawke bro people are so irrational I get sas said something stupid with the cowboy Conor fight but that was the only time. His take here isn’t bad I also feel like jones has more to gain here. People just hate because everyone else hates no one is actually listening and coming up with opinions themselves.
But he wasn’t, HILARIOUS THO, 👍🏾👊🏾✌🏾🇳🇬🇺🇸
He wasn’t though. If Francis can stay on his feet , it’s a good possibility he knocks Jon out .
I don’t understand the context of what y’all are talking about
Dont forget they already tried to discredit Jon Jones because they already knew he was the goat
The PED eye poker on cocaine is the GOAT?
Lul...
Nice one
GOAT’s don’t cheat. Khabib is the real GOAT not juicy Jones
@@tjleaf3510 pls even gsp or silva is better than khabib this guy just beat 4 title defence lol jon 15 casuals like you are the reason jon is not getting respect he is like ali of this sport
@@kshitijdobriyal3003 anyone that says khabib is the goat is a casual
@@kshitijdobriyal3003 Juicy Jones cheated and the refs saved him multiple times. He can’t be the GOAT. Khabib was never even hurt once lmao. YOU must be the casual
if bones beats predator, bones is goat no debate
Already is goat but this will definitely shut up the doubters
@Jay Mun the low key racist not the only ones who hate some just be dc fans lol but there is a lot of closet racist who hate him
@@pipedown6882 its ignorant and racist to think people dont like jones only because theyre "racist". people dont like jones because he fled a hit and run, got caught doping numerous times and is unlikable as a person. if he wasn't an incredible athlete he would be in jail. in the ring hes a cheater who regularly pokes eyes and commits illegal blows. he still always wins though. and those same people like daniel cormier because hes wholesome, an olympic champion, and honest.
@@calmdown9094 eye poke bruh really that ain’t on purpose. And I’m not here to talk about the mans past nobody is perfect. It’s ignorant to think that some racist people don’t like him because he’s black you know what world we live in Right or do you live under a rock .. my opinion is just as valid as yours if your not racist and don’t hate him cause he’s black good for you but don’t try to give the rest of them a pass .
@@pipedown6882 okay anyone who has EVER watched a fight, knows he dangles his fingers, and is KNOWN for eyepokes. get real. and pointing out 2% of people and acting like they make up the majority is intellectually dishonest. we all know why hes unpopular, and its not because hes black, in a sport that is heavvvvvillllllyyyyyy non america non white. if we can use that argument, everyone who trashes khabib must hate non americans, right?
He's already the greatest tho
But this fight will solidify it
khabib is
@@AC-mp7cx lmfao🤣 ur delusional
Jones vs Ngannou has a Ali vs Forman feel to it
Arguable GOAT against the baddest man on the planet. Yea i hear you
Feel this
Tyson Vs Holyfeild vibes
@Lo Livingston you sound tight for no reason.
@Lo Livingston “no u!”-Tight Livingston
He’s already the g.o.a.t because he wiped out a division full of legends
Its really that simple
SAS trying to inject media narrative to detract from the man's legend.
as if having a DUI doesnt make you the GOAT
as if being a jackass outside the Octagon doesn't make you the GOAT
Anyone that says Jones isn’t the GOAT is a casual
@@xftbllplyr2091 I'm going with gsp
@@xoat6 gsp, less title defenses. Was finished in two title fights. Jones has more title defenses and never lost a title fight. Jones has more finishes as well
them dirty tests tho
He already was the greatest mixed martial artist ever in my eyes even if he loses to Ngannou
Khabib is the greatest. No one dominated his opponents like Khabib did
khabib,gsp and anderson silva are all above him in the list
@Alan Becerra steroids
@@ewlinitis Steroids dont give you skills , Anderson silva was just in a different level
Jones and silva always
You can clearly see a major difference in how much homework and research Max has done versus Stephen.
So glad to hear you guys talk about My brother from Cameroon Ngannou
7years ago he was just a statistic working at a Quarry 😎😎😎
OK now u have brothers over there
@@Suyashk_22 hehehheeeeeheh
Even you too are my brother
Jon Jones is the 🐐 if he wins this it would just add another person to his great resume simple
Lol
He a cheater... he’s the roid goat
He is but if he beats francis i dont think it will be a doubt
@@RuizSBLVIChamps he still the most talented tho. Even without roids
@@RuizSBLVIChamps roids don’t teach you skills my guy. I know it hurts you that he beat everyone in front of him lol
Bones is already the Goat 🤣
Exactly only the haters say he’s not
Exactly
@FD MZ Whooooooooo is it getting hot in here
@FD MZ how he cheat?
Coke goat
If Jones knocks Ngannou out cold. Hands down he will be hailed as the Greatest Combat Athlete of All Time
That would be insane lol. I feel like if jones did knock him out it would most likely be a tko and not ko. Hard for me to see Francis with all that mass getting knocked out cold by someone smaller than him especially considering he has a great chin as well. The only way I see Jones winning by tko is if he lands a powerful flush head kick clean on Francis, and then drops him and ground and pounds him to a stoppage. that’s the only way I see Jones winning by knockout. Either way if he did do that he would be the undisputed GOAT.
I guess Bruce Lee never existed 🤦🏾♂️
@@MrStrizzy12 Open weightclass? Lol. Id give him mighty mouse light work
@@doormatt1391 Now you're just trolling 🤷🏾♂️
@@MrStrizzy12 Maybe😏
How're we still questioning Jon's legacy as a fighter still?! A win over Francis would definitely cement his legacy BUT he's already proved to be as great as advertised, nobody has the resume he has
"Well first of all i think youre wrong" 😂
I was looking for this comment 😂😂
Stephen A really jumped on this MMA thing and acting like an expert lool
I am hoe
I hate when he tries to talk about boxing and mma he sounds so stupid 😭😭
Stop Hating
@@stephenasmith6387 Corny
@@PatchesOhoulihan159 you extra 🌽 if you think he corny
I stongly agree, He will be the baddest man to ever walk the planet
I would like to thank Max Kellerman for bringing up Brock Lesnar. What he did in the UFC was incredible.
Lesnar is the biggest star at heavy weight
He ultimately proved himself but to start out let's be honest he was given a title shot based off his stardom
@@coopcooper1632 based off his credentials. He twice beat a Heavy weight champ (Cormier) plus he schools alex who's heavyweight
@@jakerojas4942 he beat dc in amateur wrestling? just asking for info
@@georgevalsamis8166 I was talking about Jones on that one
It’s funny when Max schools Stephen A when it comes to boxing and UFC
but stephen is right here?
but not this time
Stephen actually has a point here.
Cain Valesquez is that heavyweight monster these guys started watching MMA yesterday
Wrong decade, bro
I thought Francis knocked him out in the first rd?
Stephen A trying to tell us whose the best mma guy ever is like Tim kurkjin telling us who the best weightlifer ever is
Lol at least he brings eyeballs to the sport tho
But what did Stephen A in this particular segment say wrong. I don’t understand
@@seveneleven2198 I don't know. I stopped listening to him a long time ago. All I know is he knows basketball and all other sports he knows what all the other casual fans know. Most tv people aren't experts on what they cover. Look at Katie Nolan or mina kimes....do you think anyone pays attention to their analysis
Jones already is the GOAT. He’s never lost, beaten some AMAZING fighters and has ALL the skill. But yes, THIS would cement the goat status
He should of lost multiple fights but the judges are a bit dodgy, Reyes got robbed and so did Gustavoson but Jones is still probably the goat anyway despite that.
If Jones can beat this Francis, then hands down. UFC needs to do everything in their power to make this happen.
You clowns that say Jones lost to Reyes, Gustaffson are the problem of the MMA community today. You can hate a fighter as that's what you're good at, but peddling phoney narratives about a fight seen by millions makes you seem foolish. Some of you even say Santos beat Jones😂🤣
You guys are so bitter i wonder how you go through life.
@@ubilicious1887 Jones was the one who got me into MMA and is in my top 3 favourite fighters, doesn’t mean I have to be blatantly oblivious to what happened in the fight. Think everyone knows your the clown bro 🤡
@@King-jk9or only go off actual results, saying what could have and should have been makes it seem like you just can't except results when they don't meet YOUR expectations.
This is gonna be this generations Ali vs Foreman if the fight happens, let's goooo!
How did Stephen A. turn up the heat so effortlessly mid convo like that 😂😂😂
As a hardcore MMA fan, here’s the kicker
I actually agree with Stephen A 😂🤣
No way man, ngannou has about 10 defenses left to reach dj, Anderson, gsp, or jones
@@leomaxxamus ma man knocking out the heavyweight goat and light heavyweight goat back to back and ur talking about defending his title 10 times?
@@zizoo4124 yes, longevity means something
@@leomaxxamus level of competition beaten is way more valuable than having a longevity in a weight class full of pepsi cans
@@zizoo4124 Jones has literally beat generations of legends
Yes Max finally a MMA topic where, by default, you are probably right compared to anything Stephen A says !🤣
He doesn’t need to beat ngannou to be the 🐐!! He already is the 🐐
Cap GSP is the goat
Nah Khabib goat
@@skirmisher10 only 3 title defends in the UFC, keep giving away awards for mediocrity
@@skirmisher10 you have no understanding of the sport
@@skirmisher10 lol no kid
Stephen A does not know UFC. Bones will be one of the greatest fighters ever if he retired today and applied to work at Walmart. This fight just adds to his legacy.
Somebody's going home early 💪🏾and it usually them not him🤣🤣
Lol everytime Stephen a Smith talks about fighting I remember the clip of him boxing 🤣😂
Ive been a john jones fan since i was 13. I pray he overcomes
Jon**
how old u? 14
to be very honest if ngannou and jones fight, i really dont know who would win. Both of them are such great fighters
I think Jon is gonna play it safe that fight. But if Ngannou lands, it's lights out for JBJ.
Ngannou is going to annihilate him
@D23 there actually isn't a case for another fighter over Jones .... Just hate speatch on jons
jones got faded by reyes, hr gets koed vs francis
@@noaholeary3178 Agree, Stipe would have given Jon a tough time. Francis is going to put Jon in intensive care.
Stephen A. Smith declaring something regarding MMA will never be taken serious.
He’s right though. If Jones wins this fight, he’s Goated
@@eldio2124
Wrong. He’s been washed up since he hopped off steroids.
@@eldio2124 if he wins it then yeah for sure, but not because HE said it lol.
@@eldio2124 steroid injecting coke-heads with DUI can never be goated
@@arber124 so basically even when I’m right you not going to give my credit ?
Stephen A. talks so much that finally he accidentally said something right about MMA. The Law of Large Numbers in action, ladies and gentlemen.
Jon has the advantage. If you watch his fights he approaches with a different fighting style every time. There are always surprises but the odds are in Jons favor based on Ngannou's stamina. I am more interested in why people think Ngannou would win seeing how much slower he is. He has only one strength going into this and if Jon can eat Cormier's punches then he stands a very good chance. If I were Ngannou I would be concerned.
I thought Jones lost to Reyes. Ngannou is a whole different animal. Ngannou by brutal KO
I think Jones will rise to the level of his COMPETITION. I could be wrong but I felt like Jones just looked unmotivated his last several fights at LHW and i thinks it’s because he wiped out the division like 2-3 times. I feel like he didn’t have the same motivation he once had in that division anymore which is why his hasn’t looked like his best self these past couple fights. I really think if he does agree to fight Francis I believe we will see Jones RISE to the level of his competition and we’ll see a version of him that we haven’t seen in his past several fights. That’s my opinion but I could be wrong, we’ll see.
Jones I trust more in deeper water (If it goes 5 rounds ...but against Nnganou it's in a kiddie pool lol.. Jones game plan will be to muddy up the fight....the Greco-Roman will help....but needs to be 250+ ish to compete imo ...
@@Mach0mar. jones is like tyson fury. Plays to the level of his opponents.
Bro tf you talking bout Jones never took a L
Ngannou is overrated, he's not well rounded
Jon Jones is already the GOAT of MMA. Its like Barry Bonds their careers before any of the steroids stuff is hall of fame/GOAT level win or lose this just adds to it.
you mean Anderson Silva the human highlight reel who went undefeated for 10 years and made UFC mainstream
@@justthatguy1808 Yeah I'm wondering why everyone is pretending Silva doesn't exist since he stopped fighting in the UFC.
@@ralx225b been finished multiple times Jon never
@@justthatguy1808 He lost that title after losing because he was showboating then breaking his leg. He went downhill from there.
Reyes and Gustuffson beat Jones and you know it...
Those days calling someone monster was an insult but now calling someone monster sounds good and sweet
Its gonna be close just imagine jon jones not weight cutting, just hydrating himself all through out camp. Im excited for this match
Exactly. Ngannou will have to suffer before the fight. JBJ's muscles will literally be full go, hydrated asf. Ngannou won't get past round 2 with an aggressive champ, stipe or JBJ. Stipe wasn't aggressive at all... Lmao
@@darwinponfil3715 lmao is the only sensible thing in your comment idiot
He will fail the test for steroids.. for the 6th time ... how he wasn’t banned like any other fighter the 1st time is a testament to the shallowness of not only judge paying but rule breaking of Dana White who set most rules himself..
Jon Jones in a decision. Cuz he ain’t getting knocked out
Smokin weed fam
We said that with Conor, and he ended up getting knocked out
@D23 I meant "out". I fixed it lol.
@@sourpatchwrapper conor ain't jon jones, he's a one trick pony😂
Jon will go to sleep against Ngannou. Won’t last 2 rounds. HW is a different world.
Lol this so like Brady, doesn’t matter what Jon does.. they just don’t wanna give it to him. Dude is the greatest already.
The greatest doesn’t get caught poking eyes, taking steroids, doing countless amounts of blow, and lose to DC multiple times. Sorry little guy but no. Goats also don’t need to have video cameras taping the other team or deflate footballs to get their little girly hands around them. Who even is thinking about Brady when watching a video on fighting. Get a life.
Not even a Brady fan, but its unfair to put Brady in with Jon Jones. Jon Jones was completing with an unfair advantage. He has an asterisk next to his name, sorry. 🤷🏿♂️
@@brianstollings6416 So GOAT is determined by personality and morality and not skills and record? I thought this was fighting not diplomatic relations.
@@xanjo772 since he's stopped running from USADA he has conveniently looked mortal and his recent fights have been lackluster.
Brady is Brady and Jones is Jones. Bones might be the GOAT, but Jones has a bunch of asterisks by his name. For one, Dominick Reyes did beat him in my opinion. Second, Jones has the roid thing against him. Third, Jones has a lot of issues outside the cage. I'd probably agree with you that Bones is probably the GOAT. But if he beats Ngannou, it will help his case a great deal.
Regarding Brady...I think you're better off making a Floyd Mayweather to Jones comparison. Or perhaps Ali to Jones. Football is a team sport.
SAS... Francis NEEDS this match and victory... for a chance at Legend status. The only thing I want from JBJ, is for him to be "clean". Seriously.
The only chance jones to beat him if hes not clean there is no way he can fight a monster like Francis without using something specially when jones is fighting in different weight class vs one of the heaviest in the heavyweight jones will get his head knocked out if he faught like he did in his last 3 fights
ESPN loves to say Jon “bones “ Jones
These guys obviously don't know Fedor.
Because beating:
Shogun
Machida
Rampage
DC (twice)
Gustaffson (twice)
Vitor
And more
Isnt enough. 🤔
Jones has owned the UFC since 2011.. That seems like a lifetime ago...
If he wasn’t the MMA villain right now he’d already be seen universally as the GOAT. Who else came on to the scene and destroyed LEGENDs in the sport of MMA? Part of the early hate he got was because he was beating fan favorite fighters easily.
True!
Nah...he was cheating with PEDs...that’s why a lot of fans don’t care for him.
khabib have destroyed legends to and left with 29-0
@@jesuskofi1664 Ten years ago when he was a baby he fought Lyoto The Dragon Machida, Quinton Rampage Jackson, Vitor Belfort and Rashad Evans CONSECUTIVELY and beat them easily. Khabib had 22 fights before he fought a household name it’s not the same. That said he is the goat of his division.
@@derekd7756 I’m gonna reveal something you might not have known. Almost everyone in the UFC was taking TRT supplements sanctioned by the UFC until a not that long ago. So in the immortal words of Bill Burr our roided up guy beat your roided up guy.
“If Jones wins the fight he’s the best ever” what they’ve said about many of his last fights. Still standing undefeated, I think he’s been the best ever already.
@tttaattyy he’s got no competition, that’s why he’s moving up to heavyweight.
@@OCCollects he had a lot of competition just cleared them all out
I always have to turn the volume down for these guys
It is like unstoppable force vs immovable object
I fear Jones will embarass Ngannou. I just believe he's too skilled, elusive and experienced for Francis.
Jones my get caught in the chin
Miocic is a better boxer than Jones and has a stronger chin. Look what happened to him.
@@Slim-Clips but Jones is the 🐐...
@@Slim-Clips how can you say he has a better chin? Jones has never even been dropped(didn't get dropped against Reyes if anyone tries to make that argument). Stipe has been finished 3 times, once against DC who Jones beat twice easily. I'd be rooting for Ngannou but Jones has one of the most underrated chins in the game
@@luislugo2611
No he isn’t.
Jon Jones never been submitted or ko’d like gsp. Also has more title defenses than gsp
Jon Jones has more title defenses than khabib. Beat more former champions than Khabib. Even khabib’s father said Jones was the best fighter he has ever seen
Jon Jones is currently #1 on the ufc p4p list.
#1 is scared to fight Francis 💰 doesn't matter if suppose to be the Goat of MMA
Jones is the greatest fighter ever, Jones has nothing gain win or loose.
can’t be the goat and be that insecure
Goat on steroids? Ok
GSP HAS NOTHING TO SAY. AND THAT'S WHY GSP IS YHE GOAT
Khabib and GSP are both ahead of him right now imo - If Jones can move up a weight class and win he will be the goat
He's got his head to loose and his health to gain
Yall can complain but i like these talks from these two.
Nah! The weight difference is too far apart.. That's like a leopard up against lion. Not a fair fight
Bro just tell Dana to pay bones this the fight we all want to see you been underpaying Jon jones his whole career PAY HIM WHAT HE DESERVES
Jon Jones ruined he’s career🧐 don’t blame the ufc. Jones was the super star before McGregor.
They offered him 11mil he said it’s not enough that’s more than conor. And he doesn’t bring in as many people as conor
Right we wanna see the darn fight Dana, stop with the little games man
@@sergiodiaz2886 Conor is white and there are more relatable fans to Conor than Jones. Jones is a minority and Conor is part of a mass demographic....
@@geronimopratt7976 it’s not a race thing he’s just not likeable. He hasn’t been fun to watch the last few years , he talks more than he fights
5:06 Stephen A smith just talked like cardi b😂
I don’t think max know Jon walks around at like 230... and he’s like 245 right now lol
still most of that are body fats. francis is a 260 pounds pure muscles. did you notice how skinny stipe beside francis
That would be the biggest fight ever!
Finally Max is talking about something he knows
Does he realize who Jon has already beat. He's already the greatest ever
@FD MZ Lol 😂😂
he beat 6 former ufc champs,more than anyone in history
defended his title more than any one in history
beat more hall of famers than anyone in history
champ for a decade !
khabib,conor,usman,israel were no bodies when Jones became champ and he is still 33. !
The only fighter who I think is more accomplished than Jones is GSP
But by no logic/reason one can rank Jones below top 3 ever
nah now its khabib
@@prashantawasthi2418 You left out the PEDs.
GSP is the best ever then john jones
@@johnforbes86 GSP, the fighter that used roids in his prime?
He already is the greatest ever
nah
Nope
@@ik-ss2kc name me one better
@@jalenkang7527 who’s better?
@@nxsa2267 gsp, arguably mighty mouse. arguably khabib. i have jones at 2 all-time.
Yeah he would be, if he didn’t cheat, but he did, so he’s not.
You’re dumb asf.
@@m9katchm9 ^
Then Vitor and Anderson are out of the conversation. Of GOAT too right? Unless you want to be hypocritical.
Thank you. He’s been washed up since he hopped off steroids.
@@smolaether yes they are out of the conversation
Mr A actually presents a legit point
Jones is absolutely incredible! Jones will come in at 250. Jones is motivated for first time in a long time. If he gets to round 2 JBJ will win
He already he is the greatest ever , name a fighter with a resume even close
Gsp and demetrious johnson have resumes just as good and no ped history
@@joeyBRADFORD3 just as good ? No😂😂😂 Dj literally fought nobody’s, gsp resumes also doesn’t even come close
@@joeyBRADFORD3 Idk whether you are trolling or you just have lack of knowledge of both fighters resume
Jon Jones is already the greatest ever.
He’s been washed up since he hopped off steroids. Get out of here.
He arguably lost his last 2 fights.
@@kingslinky1247 but didn’t🤷♀️
@@Slim-Clips He's only failed one drug test due to PEDs, and how's he washed when he hasn't lost (even off the roids, if that's even true)?
Khakib
GSP
Jon
Silva
Cringe dude
Cain
Dc
Kamaru
Izzy
Max
I don't even think these guys know who is in the running for GOAT in MMA.
gsp, silva, fedor and jon bones jones****
Thanks
Megafight in deed, im Hyped thank you espn :D
The excitement of Stephen A. Smith is the personification of every fan's feelings at the moment! 🤣 🤣 🤣
Oh and Max should feel a certain type of way towards Stephen A for trying to get Skip back to take Max’s job. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Do you see the fear in Stephen A.'s voice when he says “Francis Ngannou????? THAT MONSTER????????”
Lotta folks forgetting about Jon Jones' last fight with Dominick Reyes. He barely got by in that fight. To think he's just going to run thru Ngannou, is far from reality.
YOU GUYS ARE BOTH CORRECT!!
Why Stipe does not deserve a trilogy for the tiebreak? It's only fair. He could of pulled a Mayweather and duck3d Ngannou... He should get 1 more Chance since he gave Francis 1 too.
Fair! Added to the fact that he rushed in quick and got dropped by Ngannou. He may think he can do better than that. A tie breaker would be 👍
He lost two title fights in his last 4 fights. He can’t keep getting title shots as it is holding up the division. There are more contenders who need their shot. Let stipe earn it with a fight or two.
Somebody stop this man talking about MMA
Why? Do you not want MMA to be relevant?
What's wrong with their debate? They bring discussion amongst sports fans and they bring light to the sport. That's a great thing.
Nothing wrong with the debate however when there is no1 who actually knows the ins and outs of MMA involved in the debate it doesn’t spread the best information
“Jon Jones didn’t show up”. SAS after the fight
If Jones never fights again, he is still TBE. This would just be another notch (very impressive notch) on his belt and it would obviously add to his legend.
I love how they promoting this fight DANA is loving this one lol
If Jones wins by knockout then he’s the best pfp ever cos he could easily win by points
You’re talking like he isn’t the best pfp ever already lol
@@Bofa99 hes not
@@manvirsandhu508 then who is ?
@@Nyquwill I mean I guess Khabib since there is no one close to him in his division, but his resume isn’t nearly as impressive as Jons so I agree that Jon is the goat
Jon Jones is 🔥 🔥 with a great record!
SAS declaring Jon Jones the GOAT to a sport he doesn't even watch
do you not want them to talk about the sport? Like it or not this is necessary to further grow the sport.
@dion robinson he would be the GOAT if khabib didn't exist.
You click on the video to complain
@@Dami-dm5sjKhabib is not on Jones’ goat status .
@@Withxr Yeah it's so weird MMA fans react negatively to Stephen A paying attention to their sport. Stephen A talking about MMA (however he wants to, ignorantly... doesn't matter) means it has become a real sport. It's an honor and a privilege. Be grateful.
But why they skip pass the style bender tho 🤔
Well at least this time he said "I think you're wrong", instead of just flat out saying max is wrong.
Mike Tyson and Jon Jones the
2 scariest GOATS of Our ERA...
our? because jones and tyson are two different eras...
@@jayentv6264 They both alive aint they? Still our era.
Reyes and Santhos sure weren’t scared of Jones lol
@@cameronfletcher9852 yes they did really good but just wasnt enough...
@@07350zVegas Yet there were moments where Jones literally turned his head and ran away from Reyes and Santhos in their fights....wow very “scary”
This would be the biggest fight in ufc history
Stephen A Declaration.. ouuuuu so worthyyy
I can't believe everyone is sleeping on Jon Jones like this.
I'm glad...lol
Everyone ignoring the dominance of Stipe at HW.