So, Shaw's body was buried with this solders as an insult... And, after the war it was asked if his family wanted the body back. His father's response: “We would not have his body removed from where it lies surrounded by his brave and devoted soldiers…what a body-guard he has!” Although I think they were ALL moved to a national cemetery in South Carolina at some point.
The relief sculpture shown during the end credits is the Robert Gould Shaw Memorial by the brilliant sculptor Augustus Saint-Gaudens; Wikipedia calls it "the first civic monument to pay homage to the heroism of African American soldiers." It was created during the 1890's.
The opening battle is Antietam, the bloodiest day in American history. It was this battle that led Lincoln to issue the Emancipation Proclamation. The Civil War was a turning point in military technology. The use of muskets meant that shots were inaccurate. The best way to his something was to fire in unison from a line. This also meant that the line of men would make an excellent target. The generals did not understand the tactical changes that would be required for success. A lot of brave men died in useless frontal attacks. If you haven’t seen Gettysburg you should watch that.
Muskets were inaccurate, yes. They were used during the Revolutionary War when massing fire was necessary. By the time of the Civil War longarms had rifled barrels which meant they were much more accurate. The Civil War commanders used the old tactics from previous wars of massing troops so there ended up being a lot heavier casualties.
Actually, everyone firing in unison from a line went back to British longbow days. If everyone fires separately, the arrows are easy to sidestep, because of how long it takes to cross the field. But if you create a solid wall of falling arrows, there's no getting away from that.
They were trying to get closer before they shoot. Linear tactics in the civil war call for soldiers elbow to elbow in two ranks. They would basically shoot at as one directed by the officer in charge. That sword held up high showed the soldiers where to go and even where to shoot.
"Are they taking turns shooting, or are they trying to get closer before they shoot, or do they stand their ground until they get a good shot?" You just encapsulated the rock-paper-scissors of 19th century warfare.
the opening battle is Antietam in Sharpsburg, MD considered the bloodiest single day. the 2nd MASS which Shaw is part of , they attacked through the cornfield (not an open field as shown in the movie) aka "The Bloody Cornfield" almost 8,000 where killed or wounded around just this 1 spot of the battlefield in about 4 hrs of fighting in the early morning , the fighting continued till late into the day in other areas. the movie covers the history really well , so the 1st Black soldier to earn the Medal of Honor was from the 54th Sgt. William H. Carney, saved the Reg Colors (Flag) during the battle after being wounded several times he returned to the lines with the Flag. In 1864 the 54th also fought in FL at the Battle of Olustee. later near the end of the war they were in South Carolina
I loved your reaction to this movie. It is one of my favorites but the flogging scene if your wondering was a common punishment for the time my great great great great grandfather who was a member of the Irish Brigade was flogged in December of 1863 received 15 lashes for leaving his post in winter quarters
I think I was 8 or 9 when my parents took me to see this in the theaters and in middle school history and high school history classes we watched Glory and every time it left the theater/class in silence if not tears.
I recommend watching 2 versions of the same historical military unit. "THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN" and "REDTAILS". The first AMERICAN black fighter pilots. A pet project of First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt. In WW2. These men also were credited with winning the war in GERMANY. An ALL STAR CAST in both films. And both films have been selected for banishment from viewing in the State of Florida.
My father was a Senior Navigational Instructor in the USAAF during WWII. He taught thousands of crewmen and fliers how to find their target and get home safely. He always said that the black college-educated men like Tuskegee airmen were his best students.
I wanted somebody to bust Trip in the mouth for about half the movie. Shows what a fantastic performance Denzel Washington turned in. Morgan Freeman is always Morgan Freeman, and Matthew Broderick never seems comfortable with his 'accent' or dialogue, but Denzel absolutely shone, throughout. Have you seen James Earl Jones in 'The Great White Hope?' Aside from being a compelling film, it takes a hard look at racial issues in the U.S. during the early 20th Century.
We actually learned and adapted a different style of fighting in wars. After suffering many defeats against the Native American Indians in the 1870's-1900;s.
That wasn't it. 1.Not many "defeats" The US Army almost always won. 2. The Plains wars didn't actually change military tactics that much. Technology was much more important as a catalyst for change (the development of cartridges and multi-round capability along with universal rifling allowed a much more fluid style of warfare). During the Civil War, some of the carbines and rifles (with actual cartridge bullets and magazines holding many rounds) were already available, and troops issued with them could effectively fight not unlike 20th century troops, firing and moving in open order rather than tight ranks.
@@johannesvalterdivizzini1523 Not many defeats ??? Sure...If you must believe in only one cultures side of history. When I was a kid. We were taught that The only "Indian" defeat was "THE BATTLE AT LITTLE BIGHORN". Now we know there were a series of Union defeats by simple hunting parties on Forts throughout the Midwest. The "Blackfoot" alone could claim a dozen. The Freedom of Information Act released hundreds of documents that changes our history. And school boards across the country are wiping clean our horrid image. For decades we only knew of one black community that was completely wiped out by all white angry mobs and that was ROSEWOOD, Fla. Now we know of Tulsa, Okl., Wilmington, N.C. and Warren,MD. So understand that the Apache, Sioux, Seminole, Powhatan, Ute's, Pecos, Navajo, Cherokee, Pueblo,Choctaw, Chippewa, Iroquois, Creek, Seneca, Shawnee, and many other Nations were ALMOST wiped out for sport and not as a Government seen need to survive in a land we were intent on Stealing ??? The British admit they learned new battle strategy from The ZULU Nation and The Aborigine. Hear in America we pass laws the criminalize teaching our own history. If it doesn't fit the fake narrative??? Re-Write until it does. Oh yes there we MANY defeats we were not ready to admit. And some will never be COMFORTABLE admitting the truth.
A shock you never saw one of the most real African-American centered movie ;-) An officer carries a pistol, to shoot deserters. Sometimes men are called to a higher purpose, even to certain death!
The Soldier who ran away to get shoes biscuits and gravy - should have been shot but Shaw had mercy on him. He was going to stare him down though in defiance AS IF his disobeying the law was Shaws fault. Shaw Treated the Men of his batalion equally as if they were any other men of any race - but his friend thought he was harsh on them - yet his friend without realizing it was endangering their lives by not teaching them properly and to be fully equiped mentally and physically as Soldiers.
This ain't no game here ma'am, this here is war. Ain't no taking turns or waiting for the other guy to get his shot off, you fire when you command tells you and you don't stop til your enemy is dead or you run out of ammo.
So, Shaw's body was buried with this solders as an insult... And, after the war it was asked if his family wanted the body back. His father's response: “We would not have his body removed from where it lies surrounded by his brave and devoted soldiers…what a body-guard he has!” Although I think they were ALL moved to a national cemetery in South Carolina at some point.
The white man who quarreled with Denzel and then later said, "Give 'em hell, 54th," was Kevin Jarre, the screenwriter.
The relief sculpture shown during the end credits is the Robert Gould Shaw Memorial by the brilliant sculptor Augustus Saint-Gaudens; Wikipedia calls it "the first civic monument to pay homage to the heroism of African American soldiers." It was created during the 1890's.
The opening battle is Antietam, the bloodiest day in American history. It was this battle that led Lincoln to issue the Emancipation Proclamation.
The Civil War was a turning point in military technology. The use of muskets meant that shots were inaccurate. The best way to his something was to fire in unison from a line. This also meant that the line of men would make an excellent target. The generals did not understand the tactical changes that would be required for success. A lot of brave men died in useless frontal attacks.
If you haven’t seen Gettysburg you should watch that.
Muskets were inaccurate, yes. They were used during the Revolutionary War when massing fire was necessary. By the time of the Civil War longarms had rifled barrels which meant they were much more accurate. The Civil War commanders used the old tactics from previous wars of massing troops so there ended up being a lot heavier casualties.
Actually, everyone firing in unison from a line went back to British longbow days. If everyone fires separately, the arrows are easy to sidestep, because of how long it takes to cross the field. But if you create a solid wall of falling arrows, there's no getting away from that.
They were trying to get closer before they shoot. Linear tactics in the civil war call for soldiers elbow to elbow in two ranks. They would basically shoot at as one directed by the officer in charge. That sword held up high showed the soldiers where to go and even where to shoot.
This is one of my favorite movies. Thanks for sharing your reaction.
Before I even watch ... Fantastic movie, based on some real American hero's. with an awesome cast line up, and some dang good acting.
Shaws sword was found and put into a museum.
"Are they taking turns shooting, or are they trying to get closer before they shoot, or do they stand their ground until they get a good shot?" You just encapsulated the rock-paper-scissors of 19th century warfare.
the opening battle is Antietam in Sharpsburg, MD considered the bloodiest single day. the 2nd MASS which Shaw is part of , they attacked through the cornfield (not an open field as shown in the movie) aka "The Bloody Cornfield" almost 8,000 where killed or wounded around just this 1 spot of the battlefield in about 4 hrs of fighting in the early morning , the fighting continued till late into the day in other areas.
the movie covers the history really well , so the 1st Black soldier to earn the Medal of Honor was from the 54th Sgt. William H. Carney, saved the Reg Colors (Flag) during the battle after being wounded several times he returned to the lines with the Flag.
In 1864 the 54th also fought in FL at the Battle of Olustee. later near the end of the war they were in South Carolina
I loved your reaction to this movie. It is one of my favorites but the flogging scene if your wondering was a common punishment for the time my great great great great grandfather who was a member of the Irish Brigade was flogged in December of 1863 received 15 lashes for leaving his post in winter quarters
I think I was 8 or 9 when my parents took me to see this in the theaters and in middle school history and high school history classes we watched Glory and every time it left the theater/class in silence if not tears.
So glad you finally got around to seeing this. Like much of the story, it was far too long in arriving. 💙
OH IM SORRY the trauma and tears that you about to go through
I recommend watching 2 versions of the same historical military unit. "THE TUSKEGEE AIRMEN" and "REDTAILS". The first AMERICAN black fighter pilots. A pet project of First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt. In WW2. These men also were credited with winning the war in GERMANY. An ALL STAR CAST in both films. And both films have been selected for banishment from viewing in the State of Florida.
My father was a Senior Navigational Instructor in the USAAF during WWII. He taught thousands of crewmen and fliers how to find their target and get home safely. He always said that the black college-educated men like Tuskegee airmen were his best students.
Btw, I hope you watch the underrated movie Antone Fisher, which also stars Denzel.
I wanted somebody to bust Trip in the mouth for about half the movie. Shows what a fantastic performance Denzel Washington turned in. Morgan Freeman is always Morgan Freeman, and Matthew Broderick never seems comfortable with his 'accent' or dialogue, but Denzel absolutely shone, throughout.
Have you seen James Earl Jones in 'The Great White Hope?' Aside from being a compelling film, it takes a hard look at racial issues in the U.S. during the early 20th Century.
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We actually learned and adapted a different style of fighting in wars. After suffering many defeats against the Native American Indians in the 1870's-1900;s.
That wasn't it. 1.Not many "defeats" The US Army almost always won. 2. The Plains wars didn't actually change military tactics that much. Technology was much more important as a catalyst for change (the development of cartridges and multi-round capability along with universal rifling allowed a much more fluid style of warfare). During the Civil War, some of the carbines and rifles (with actual cartridge bullets and magazines holding many rounds) were already available, and troops issued with them could effectively fight not unlike 20th century troops, firing and moving in open order rather than tight ranks.
@@johannesvalterdivizzini1523 Not many defeats ??? Sure...If you must believe in only one cultures side of history. When I was a kid. We were taught that The only "Indian" defeat was "THE BATTLE AT LITTLE BIGHORN". Now we know there were a series of Union defeats by simple hunting parties on Forts throughout the Midwest. The "Blackfoot" alone could claim a dozen. The Freedom of Information Act released hundreds of documents that changes our history. And school boards across the country are wiping clean our horrid image. For decades we only knew of one black community that was completely wiped out by all white angry mobs and that was ROSEWOOD, Fla. Now we know of Tulsa, Okl., Wilmington, N.C. and Warren,MD. So understand that the Apache, Sioux, Seminole, Powhatan, Ute's, Pecos, Navajo, Cherokee, Pueblo,Choctaw, Chippewa, Iroquois, Creek, Seneca, Shawnee, and many other Nations were ALMOST wiped out for sport and not as a Government seen need to survive in a land we were intent on Stealing ??? The British admit they learned new battle strategy from The ZULU Nation and The Aborigine. Hear in America we pass laws the criminalize teaching our own history. If it doesn't fit the fake narrative??? Re-Write until it does. Oh yes there we MANY defeats we were not ready to admit. And some will never be COMFORTABLE admitting the truth.
Machine guns changed the game
Will you explore Orphan, Pet Cemetery, & Mean Girls? Thank you for posting.
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Such an awesome movie and such a shame - and makes me mad - that it took this long for this story to finally come out.
I want to suggest the new TV series Fallout based off of a Video game Series. It is Popping on UA-cam with Gamers and Non-Gamers enjoying the show.
A shock you never saw one of the most real African-American centered movie ;-) An officer carries a pistol, to shoot deserters. Sometimes men are called to a higher purpose, even to certain death!
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That has just so much in common with "Glory".
The Soldier who ran away to get shoes biscuits and gravy - should have been shot but Shaw had mercy on him. He was going to stare him down though in defiance AS IF his disobeying the law was Shaws fault. Shaw Treated the Men of his batalion equally as if they were any other men of any race - but his friend thought he was harsh on them - yet his friend without realizing it was endangering their lives by not teaching them properly and to be fully equiped mentally and physically as Soldiers.
Casualties of war next
This ain't no game here ma'am, this here is war. Ain't no taking turns or waiting for the other guy to get his shot off, you fire when you command tells you and you don't stop til your enemy is dead or you run out of ammo.
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