I think road biking is dangerous as you're at the mercy of distracted, careless and drunk drivers. So I got into gravel and MTB in my mid 40s, but never acquired good MTB skills. I stick to XC trails. It's all about knowing your limits, and be aware that it takes much longer to recover from a crash as you get older.
Yep, every year it seems somebody in my local biking community is hit by a car. My road bike stays indoors on the trainer these days. High speeds on spindly bikes amongst distracted 2-3 ton vehicles just isn't for me anymore. I find mountain biking to be way more interesting and fun anyway. Plus I don't have to wear spandex.
Agreed. Gave up my road bike a few years ago. Gravel and mountain biking only for me. My road exposure is limited to getting to the trailhead or on to backroads.
I'll never road bike for those reasons. I've personally known too many riders who have been ran over, maimed or killed while road biking. It doesn't matter who is at fault, you still lose when you get hit by a car.
Distracted drivers!!! For various reasons drivers are looking at their phone or the car screen and road bike riders end up in the hospital. Really kinda gave up road biking. Too friggin dangerous for me unless it's the bike path.
Separated my shoulder as well. It was because I was trying to do something beyond my skill level (jumps) in my first year riding. That was the only serious injury I’ve ever had while mountain biking. Don’t be embarrassed to walk is my advice!
@@texasrogue93 We all can learn pretty much anything thru trial and error. As we get older , the problem becomes surviving the errors. I signed up with a skills coach recently. Results have been dramatic and fast - I highly recommend it.
Kudos! I am 61 and just back from riding in Whistler for a month. A friend of mine said that this is the sort of experience that I will fondly remember when looking back on my life when I am 80. I told him I am planning to still ride and ski and rock climb when I am 80. You’re 71 and that shows me it’s possible! Legend.
Wow! I am English and know nothing about surfing. I just assumed even a beginner could try and surf the biggest wave, but just that they would fall off quicker. It’s just water …what’s the problem?
Why do mountain bikers wear almost no protective gear when riding boulders? Look at motocrossers. They wear as much gear as they can. Unprotected shins, forearms, ankles, chests, backs and necks. It blows my mind.
Maybe I avoided the “just send it” mentality as I mostly ride solo. I realized that I am there just to have fun and not push faster times. Stay safe everybody.
You present MTB from the viewpoint of an over-40 or over-50 rider. I'm now 72, have been doing various forms of cycling - both road and mtb - for many years. As I've aged, my bones and joints are more brittle, my vision isn't what it once was, and my balance has deteriorated. I ride now primarily for cardio-vascular and mental health. If that means XC, easier trails, and safer roads (when necessary), so be it. The goal is to keep riding while I'm physically able, and not endanger that privilege by subjecting myself to a high probability of crashing and injury. Thanks for this honest post.
I suffer from type 1 diabetes and depression and I have to say every ride on my E-full sus bike is an antidepressent for my mind and very good for my blood sugar.Thank god for this sport 🙌
North Shore Betty is turning 76(!) next month and she's been riding the (in) famous North Shore of BC since she started mountain biking - in her 40s. What a legend. Great interview on UA-cam talking about how she approaches risk.
Remember you don't need to be pushing limits to have a bad crash. It can happen anytime anywhere and sometimes more likely on familiar trails that you take for granted.
Very true. I’ve had two crashes this year, both on trails I’ve ridden before, one on a feature I’ve probably done 100 times at least. Sometimes accidents happen.
@@sdevans2yup, I was hitting a big wooden ramp jump, that shoots you up on a platform and then you drop off the platform on the other side . I had hit this multiple times before with no issues but this time I didn't notice my shorts came unbuckled and were sagging down and at the very top of the lip my shorts were sucked up in the rear wheel, locking the the wheel up and I was catapulted probably 20 feet and landed on my shoulder snapping my collar bone. Not fun because I was by myself about 2 miles from my truck and my phone got thrown into the woods. I try not to hit big features when I'm by myself anymore .
Good stuff. My friend once called how I ride ‘agressive XC’. At first I was insulted, but then thought ‘yeah, that’s about right’ and I’m more than ok with it. At 61, I know I have a closing window on how long I can keep riding at my current level and don’t want to be off the bike due to injury if I can help it!
It can be. If you ride too aggressively and if you ride too timidly. Crazy how riding to slow can get you hurt and riding too fast can get you hurt also. Speed is your friend and can also be your enemy depending on terrain and your skill level
This video resonates with me. I've been mountain biking for 30 years. I turn 60 very soon and I hope to continue to mountain bike for a couple of more decades and in those 30 years of riding I've had my share of crashes of various degrees resulting in anything from no injuries to those that put me out for weeks. I understand the risks and dangers of mountain biking but they can be mitigated by being honest with your skills and have the discipline to ride within them. Like you I used to ski a lot. For years we got a ski house in Vermont so every weekend during ski season I would load up my truck every Friday so after work I head north for the weekend. I've had countless amounts of falls and crashed and none of them ever took me out. The key message here I think is to know your skill limits and stay in them. When presented with a challenge to do something I'm not comfortable with I always so no thanks, I have nothing to prove and if I don't make it home alive my wife will kill me.
@@GnarlieCharlie That's true. I try to manage my risks and so far so good. The alternative is to sit on the couch all day and that's just not an option.
I'm 54 and just getting into mountain biking. I have been gravel riding for several years and wanted to give it a shout. My main worry is safty so im taking it slow and sticking to easily marked trails. Its good to hear videos like this to put safety at the top of mind what ever level your at, thanks!
Great video...I've been MTB full time now for about +20 years and just turned 57 years old. I've had my fair share of accidents but the worst was an OTB (12-13 years ago) superman that lead to me dislocating a bunch of stuff in my left hand. The recovery was 2 months of tiny pins in my wrist/hand to keep stuff scarred over to hold it all together. 7 years ago, I also had a pacemaker installed and thus I need to be careful to not fall too hard cause I risk pulling the leads from the heart wall contact points.... But, I still ride. Saw another comment mentioning aggressive XC as a riding style and can relate to that. Like you, I continue to do stuff to get outside as much as possible. One of my gripes these days is the trend of trail builders & organizations trending towards mostly building black to double black trails (PNW) in & around Seattle area. I too grew up skiing and was even on ski patrol for about 5 years. The bulk of skiers have the most fun on blues and I wish more MTB blue trails were being built. That would help get more riders involved and be more fun for everyone. Some of our single black diamond trails here are so technical and committing...they are not worth the risk for me. Again, thanks for the great video and mention to Paul. Here's to keep the rubber side down and safe riding to you.
I am 55 and just completed week of back country and downhill MTB rides. No question the key is to know and respect your limits.Heck, I’ve had friends who have rolled their golf cart so things can happen in any sport (but the cardio isn’t there). Have fun, be safe!
This is exactly how I feel about mountain biking. You describe your approach to mountain biking exactly like I have done to friends in the past. I ski the same way.
At 61 after 34 years of mtb just had maybe my worst crash ever. On a stretch I've ridden over hundreds of times. Happened so fast there's nothing I could have done. Thankfully no broken bones but my shoulder feels like like toast. Really got me thinking about the future.....
Unsolicited advice incoming.. consider stem cell therapy, even traveling if you need to. Shoulders are a b@tch. Surgery isn’t statistically better than no intervention. Stem cell therapy works.
I'm 57 y/o and recently got diagnosed with a blood clotting disorder where I have to be on blood thinners for the rest of my life. I decided to give up mountain biking and focus on gravel biking. I'm a skilled mountain biker for Michigan trails and am having a hard time with my decision. I love to go fast and wonder if I can tame it down. Thanks for the video, Clint, Safety to you and your son.
I took up mountain biking in my mid thirties and got more into it after I stopped riding motocross. I love being outdoors and using cycling as my main form of exercise. Due to my motocross experience, I'm very careful on my mountain bike. I've learned that most of my unexpected get offs are due to continuing to ride after I'm fatigued. Even a simple front wheel washout can turn nasty when you get a piece of cocina embedded in your knee.
Hey Clint, I really enjoy your style, great video. I'm now 73 years old and I got my first mountain bike in 1987, I entered xc races for about 10 years and have continued riding til now. My best piece of advice for novices is that your goal should be to ride smoothly instead of trying to ride fast. If you ride smoothly you will get faster with time and you will enjoy it more and suffer fewer injuries. In all of my years on the trails I have had relatively few injuries, a broken hand, a separated shoulder, gravel rash and bumps and bruises. Mountain biking is a great way to stay in shape and to get out in nature and (strangely) to calm your mind.
Just the fact that you are posting this at 73 years old tells me that mountain biking keeps you fit and active. Thanks for posting! Mountain biking is not as dangerous as sitting on the couch and watching TV every day.
Yip, love t intensity of t moment/ GREAT for my mind as it’s t only way I can get into t outdoors now/ used to b long wilderness trips.. but a major heart event saw me lose toes/ b short of breath quickly/ took to an ebike w clip-ins(can’t feel my feet). GOTTA keep moving man..
Great video, well said... I'm now 59 years old and have been riding for 34 years. Done some road and mtn bike racing in the distant past but now these days it's for fun, my health and getting back to nature. I've broken my pelvis, needed stitches on a couple of occasions and shed more blood and had more bruises than I can count.. I can't afford to get hurt or take the time away from work so I'm gonna go out ride at my comfort level with a big smile and if you want to go around me that's just fine too...)
The risk assessment and calculation at each obstacle is incredibly stimulating mentally and physically. If I’m riding solo I use an 80-85% rule were I ride within my perceived skill set at the given day. If I’m with a partner or group I’ll up my percent to around 90.
When I started mountain biking I loved riding through the forest. I wasn't trying to go fast, in fact I usually ride as slow as I can so I can enjoy the scenery. The other factor was that I had to go to work come Monday, injuries were not an option. I know momentum is necessary and when it's called for I use it. But I know I am a very conservative rider who just enjoys riding at 71 and hoping to keep on riding for many years to come.
You're doing a great public service with this video. I am horrified by some of the catastrophic injuries people sustain, including death and paralysis in their quest to outdo. Part of the problem is that some of the videos feature professional riders who are very capable, but even some of them end up with grievous injuries. I'm like you, Clint, I enjoy the outdoors, the fitness that mtb brings, and my trail riding brings me plenty of thrills without jumps. I even enjoy the challenge of a slow technical uphill. It takes a lot of technique and finesse.
Over the past 5yrs. I've taken three different skills classes- for new learning and refreshing bike technique. I can't recommend them enough! They're fun, challenging, and stress the importance of the nuances of riding. I'm 62 and lean to your preferred terrain--XC/trail...and I want to keep the fun going as safely and as long as I can. Thanks Clint!
The greatest danger in mountain biking is the drive to the park, trail or mountains you’re aiming to ride. Nothing beats travelling by car for taking huge risks unconsciously. The additional risk of adrenaline sports pales, statistically. The biggest danger in MTB (& other activities) has come from impressionable people trying to achieve the spectacular performance shown on social media, without the years of experience building.
That's the main problem the mtb industry. It perpetuates and pushes this aggressive style of riding to push expensive bikes. Not caring that young riders will instantly try harder and harder features, not even close to being ready. My local city bike park with decent jump lines. I see kids on department store cheaply made bikes getting injured or wreaking their bike. Then you have the 20 to 40 year olds on expansive bikes, also getting seriously f ed getting to trouble fast because they think the bike will do 80% of the riding for you. I'm not surprised because all industry commercials showing off new bike models with pro riders on crazy trails up in Whistler, Squamish, and the PNW. Nothing close to the reality for 95% of its consumers that buy higher end bikes.
Agree, everyone wants to be a highlight reel. I just like to go on long physically challenging rides. With some reasonable downhill. Could care less who thinks what about me or who gets there 1st.
Been riding our local Santos trails for 10 plus years…. Broke 3 ribs last year thanks to a tree clip… no matter how good I ride and how focused I am, things happen….. As a FF I have seen several on our trail system get hurt, we heal, move forward. Whenever you ride and crash even though it may be minimal, you will get hurt. Everything out there in the woods is unforgiving…..I still love riding though and at 51, I won’t give it up anytime soon. It’s truly my “out” from job stress and I’m blessed to be able to enjoy each ride despite what the day brings.
Also 51 and ride MTB as much as I can and dedicated Gravel trails. I know there are risks and I am okay with that. Road biking is what I won't do as the risk of serious injury or worse is exponentially higher.
For me mountain biking is just like snow skiing. You chose how safe or risky you will be each time you go out. Once you gain a little bit of basic skill I believe you can largely control your risk exposure. I am 68 yrs old and have been riding regularly for the past 5 yrs. While I do mostly XC type riding, here in MN, we have ups and downs, trees, berms, roller and jumps intermingled in flow trails. To improve my skills I just started taking training with a skills coach. This is proving to be very worth while and I highly recommend it. Finally , for us older guys who like to push ourselves a bit, wear protective gear : elbow, knees, hips protection is an easy way to start.
I've been mostly road cycling for 40 years with tens of thousands of miles over those years. I've had a number of crashes. Nothing too serious. I think the most important thing is to both know your limits and know the limits of the bicycle you're riding at that moment. I know that every time I go out for a ride there's always a chance I can get injured or worse. That's just part of the deal.
100% I just turned 61 and train year round so that I can run R2R and Rim2River at the Grand Canyon each year (as CC runs. I don't walk or use poles). I cross train on a heavy mountain bike, on the same trails on the local peaks, that I run on. Vids on the channel.
Healthy conversation. Thanks Clint! Two words that I want to repeat from your video and the comments: risk and limits. Even when I’m well within my limits I’m taking risks where accidents can happen. I remember trying to bunny hop a fallen tree. I swear that tree reached up and tagged my rear wheel sending me over my bars.
Good points, Clint! I believe that beginners are more apt to get injured just because of the lack of experience. For instance, when I began mountain biking 4 years ago, I would take 45 minutes to reach the 1/2 way point on my favorite trail where I would stop and rest. During my earlier slower days, I fell and was injured all the time. In one particular section of this trail I was very apprehensive of because of the off angle roots that I would loose the front wheel on causing cracked ribs, etc. Now I ride this whole trail in 25-28 minutes and zoom over that same section in a flash! You are absolutely right about knowing your limits and taking the time to research the sport and learn by practice. BTW, I'm 76 years old.
Good on you! I'm 69 and have been riding for 12 months, most of family thinks I'm nuts! I feel like a 12 yr. old out on the trail. I pad up, don't jump (much), and stay off wet roots. I totally agree on skill level biking as well and do not take a friend that has a lower skillset as that will get them hurt :(
I align with your philosophy and perspectives that you lay out in the video. There is no risk free sport. With MTB’ing you need to take steps to mitigate those risks and understand your limits. Thanks for sharing!
Excellent discussion Clint, very sorry to hear of a loss of life, you did such a great job on the entire mountain biking perspective. I am terrified of smooth fast jumps but l have no issue with drops, rocks, and rough terrain. so very much appreciate your input on all the types and levels of mountain biking!
That's almost exactly where I'm at. Drop and rough terrain I really like.. I have almost zero interest in big jumps. I come from an off road dirt bike background. There's a reason I never did moto!
I have been a road biker since I was about five years old. From 1970 to 2010 I did triathlon all over the midwest and in Florida when I moved to Florida. About five years ago when I was about 74 My Rd. friends talked me into Biking so I bought a hard tail to a mountain bike then a giant mountain bike and now five years later it’s 79. I am riding a canyon neuron 7E bike because is that progress from green trails the blue trails no black at my age, I found that getting up some of the hills was getting a little difficult and the bike helps me greatly, I try not to go too fast though because of the pedal assist the bike out of 20 miles an hour. I love mountain biking here in the trails of South Florida such as Balm and Alafia.
I have a very similar attitude to mountain biking as you. Like this it's an extremely safe and rewarding activity and one you can do for most of your life.
My goal on my (weekend only) rides is to be able to walk into the office on Monday and type with both hands. That said, I like technical features and (small) jumps, but only ride them when I feel confident.
Good chat, Clint. It’s all about risk management. You manage risk by improving skills, by knowing your limits and progressing gradually, patiently, and knowing the inherent risks of the environment and the activity. If you are injured, the injury is bad enough, but being out of commission is bad for your health too, physical and mental health, perhaps not as dramatic but rather more insidious, but no less certain. Thanks for your wisdom.
When I did it, I found cross country mountain biking to be relatively safe. Racing BMX is not if you have that major but when. I’ve been riding bikes for over 50 years and never broke a bone until I raced a BMX bike. In 11 years I broke many bones. Riding a mountain bike I crashed twice over a span of many years without a serious injury. You’re right. Pushing yourself beyond your skill level increases the risk of serious injury. At 70, staying in the game is more important that inflating my ego in “look what I can do”!
After watching this video I’ve done a lot of thinking about what said about what kind of riding you will be doing. The risk and reward , like you I don’t want to be off bike because of an injury . I’m changing the way I’m riding now with more caution and more awareness. I to love to ride every day if I can 😊
Thanks for covering this topic. I feel like I evolved to this same conclusion myself. I hope other people that watch your channel arrive hear as well. I'm 54 now and for many years rode as though I would be fine no matter what I did. like you I grew up skiing hear in the north east. then started riding mtb in 1989. About 15 years ago had a bad crash doing lift access at mt snow Vt. Result was a bad concussion. today I ride mostly XC and some moderately challenging trail riding. Having clear understanding of the consequences is a very important part of deciding how and what one rides. Thanks for the excellent content and thought full commentary. Keep it coming.
You nailed it with not wanting to be sidelined & off the bike. I had a crash last year and am now looking at a shoulder surgery to finally fix everything. At 45 years old and very active, I'm dreading the downtime I have coming. That one crash off a big (for me) jump has not only affected my riding for the last year, but many other activities I enjoy. The desire to progress with jumping and drops is huge but I definitely need to weigh the risk vs reward more. This sport is amazing and as dangerous as you make it.
Great content and enjoyed listening to your viewpoint ! … Thanks for sharing & posting … as a 59 year old who’s about to turn 60 in 6 mths … You just got to know your own limits and deal with it the best you can, but have fun… plain & simple … Also would love to say that I’m really enjoying reading these comments and feedback.
All great points! I crashed two years-ago and ended up with a torn rotator cuff. Surgery last October and I’m just now about 90% healed. All that to say, I was unable to do many of the things I love, like weightlifting and golf (and riding). One other thing Clint didn’t mention is as you age and you face an injury that incapacitates you for months, you lose SO much of your fitness and strength and it takes much longer to recover than when you were younger. I ride mostly blues now and never try to exceed my capability.
100% agree with all of this. I got into MTB about 2 years ago, I'm 43. I'm really active, kiteboarding, surfing, foiling, and the joy I get from it is the physical challenge, the push. I enjoy XC type of terrain like you do, and ride mostly flat terrain at home and still love it, along with trips to Dupont, Pisgah, etc. Spot on, all of this, no desire to learn to jump or push beyond a black in Pisgah (and that's really pushing it for now). I want to be active as long as possible, at as high of a level as possible which means avoiding injuries as much as possible. I've had little things take me out for a week or two (Dengue fever, etc.) and even that drove me crazy, so long story short, stay active as much as possible while not getting hurt. Great video.
Great conversation, Clint. I have come to realize I am okay with where I am at in regards to progression. No need to push the envelope just for view/likes on social media
I turn 62 next month, been riding since the 90's. Very fortunate to live in NNJ..Lots of climbing and great rocky descent.. I have crashed many times and broken ribs and bruises...I attribute most of my crashes to loosing focus.. Now i concentrate more , keep the drops small and the speed the check...stop a lot and enjoy the Forrest and being outside and exploring....Clint this was a fantastic vid!!!
I've been mountain biking for 34 years - racing XC and DH I've broken my hip, broken ribs, 5 concussions, multiple lacerations requiring stitches and internal bleeding. It just happens. I am not the craziest rider by any means - but I do push myself a bit. But sometimes stuff just happens and you end up on the ground. It's part of the sport.
Agree! I’ve been at it since 89! And at 51 I still ride super technical trails in the mid Atlantic. I find focus a huge factor. Most of my crashes are in places where I let my focus drop. Usually close to the parking lot. One point I think could be added is that MTB tech has gotten so good and new riders have way more bike than they can handle. I started my son out with a hard tail for this reason. If you learn to handle a bike that’s less capable you’re more likely to progress safer and learn your true limits. Great talk and much needed!
Almost met my maker on numerous occasions while on the road. In MTB a few cuts and bruises, but I’m not doing anything too daredevil. My worst crash (which knocked me unconscious) is when I hit a wash out on a RAIL TRAIL which is as tame as off road riding can get
Clint, thanks for making this video. I am almost 45 and have been riding Enduro for almost 4 years now. However, I noticed that so much anxiety comes along with the thought of crashing all the time, that I’ve leaned into XC riding a lot more. I can definitely motel resonate with wanting to keep my fitness level high and stay on the bike day. I am about to leave the mountains of California for Florida so am hopeful to keep MTB a big part of my life. There is just nothings else like it. Keep making these videos. They are really helpful. Thanks Clint!
@ClintGibbs We have been looking at Ponte Vedra (south of Jacksonville) most recently. I’ve tried researching a bit and seems the best trails in Florida are probably a couple hours away from there.
When your jump failed the landing frame I remember the exact howling in pain from when I fell off of a ladder, not knowing exactly how much was broken, but knowing that stuff was ! The equivalent of 5 five gallon buckets of water weight for me hitting the concrete from 8 feet up, is held together with bones. In your case, velocity was also in place.
Started riding 6 months now on trails & yesterday broke that rule of riding on a ramp & lost control / hurt my knees / lesson learned to stick with i love .
Great video. Exactly how I feel. At 67 I just slow down. I maintain our local MTB trails and that is great trail therapy also. As you said gotta be out side
My university days (20+ years ago)!I actually raced XC and since then keep in touch with my team - they are still some of my best friends, our kids play together, well you get the picture. For me, mountain biking made me who I am. Some of those guys went on to enduro riding, some went even further and every year when we meet up to go off do some MTB for a few days I see that while I am ahead of most of those guys uphill, going down some trails is becoming more and more challenging for me. I had a nasty crash 15 years ago and this just changed my perspective. I am happy where I am and acquired enough back bone not to get provoked into "just send it" attitude some of those guys have.
Ride within your abilities is key as well as stop trying to keep up with naturally faster riders. Also I had to learn to stop making strava segments such a priority. Having fun is the point. I have just as much fun riding a green, blue or black trail within my limits going slower than people in the group going 30 seconds + faster on the downhill sections. Great topic for newer riders as well as us older riders
I stick to green and light blue low desert trails. I still end up falling sideways once in a while ( big rock and pedal strike is the common issue). Occasional wash-out on faster flows. Getting outside and covering more ground than walking are the biggest motivations. No interest in jumping.
This is very similar to the advice I got after breaking my shoulder on my snowboard a few months ago: “do you want to go fast now or do you want to do this for the rest of your life?” No less than 5 people in a week, family, friends, folks at work, X-Ray technicians, all said “you need to slow down out there.” Also I love the recommendation to hire a coach, I’ve had several MTB coaching sessions this year and have progressed a ton and am riding so much more safely!
Couldn’t agree more with your approach to this great sport: ride within in your limits, get coaching and always be aware of how you feel in in certain types of terrain. Send it and peer pressure can only lead to serious injury and set backs. I live in the Tetons and we have beautiful XC trails that get you deep into the mountains and satisfy that need to get into the wilderness. We also have a great ski area with challenging downhill trails - I don’t take the chair despite peer pressure from ski buddies. XC is fine and the health and mental clarity benefits are fantastic. Thanks for the chat!
I’m 100% with you. If I get 3-4” of air on a jump, that’s like “whoa buddy, that’s good for today!” I feel that everything within mtn biking is within the riders control and choice (barring some crazy rare incident). Road biking has so much that can happen entirely out of your control (assuming you’re on public rides). Every crash I’ve had in mtn biking was from poor choices : not enough focus, not enough skill, not enough experience, etc. I’ll always take tech over flow: the satisfaction of getting thru something regardless of speed is what I most enjoy.
Love your channel Clint. I started mountain biking at 55 in the ATL area just before covid hit. Now I'm 60. The one thing you could also run into a you get older is a heat attack on the trail. I've had my heart rate as high as 185 bpm on a climb with no ill effects but i didn't like it for sure. Be careful. Have fun.
30 years ago I rode a hardtail with a Rockshox Mag21 front fork with cantilever brakes. Todays modern suspension and brakes allows you to go much faster. If you lose it now, you simply crash at a faster speed resulting in more and bigger injuries. Crashes were much slower in the old days.
Good video ! I"ve been riding mtb close to 30 yrs. Im 66yrs old. I had my share of falls endo"s during that time , i still ride drops & hop up stuff , big roots , rocks , but now if something looks really dangerous , i"ll probably pass on it , reason , i love riding & wanna be able to ride tomorrow ! 🤟
I’m 56 and finally made it to Whistler this summer. I mostly stuck to blue runs and had an amazing time. My favorite is Crank it Up, with decent, table top jumps, but not too much risk especially if you manage yourself. I’ll probably never ride the famous A Line, Dirt Merchant, or bigger runs there, and I’m ok with that. I relate to all the points in this video. My teenage son goes off big gap jumps, huge drops, and highly technical downhill runs, but they’re not for me at this point in my life. The risk isn’t worth the reward. Btw, I took a private lesson at Whistler, and it was great. It really improved my jump technique and made me a safer rider.
@@alfman7630 My instructor’s name was Sig, and he was from New Zealand. My lesson was just a single private lesson I bought through Whistler’s website. Sig was great. I’m sure all their instructors are solid. Btw, my son attended Whistler’s week long “Summer Gravity Camp.” It’s basically full day group lessons for five consecutive days. My son improved a lot through that camp and had a great time. They have a version of that camp geared for adults as well that’s probably worth checking out. But even just a single private lesson focused on a specific area (e.g., jumps) is worthwhile.
Really appreciate this video, Important to know your limits. I think you have been near by at my worst crashes and I've been able to walk away from all of them. And yes, I've been injured worse trail running than I have riding.
Fantastic Video Clint. I haven’t watched you for a few years because I left England (an area superb for MTB) for a relatively flat area in France. Road cycling is much safer in my region. The French are much more courteous and patient with road cycling. I have a good XC bike which I have take to the local forest a few times ,(biggest oak forest in Europe) found a few single trails, but it is flat, flat , flat. With regard to running. Have you tried mountain running /hill running endurance events? That is as exciting as mtb xc. Try it. You will never find running boring again. Great video. Thanks
Great conversation Clint and timely for me. I’m currently on the sidelines for the second time this season. I’ve resolved to dial it back a bit, like you my priority is to enjoy riding outdoors not necessarily testing my limits. My reaction time and body-space awareness are not bad but also not what they were even 5 years ago (now late 50s). I have both a trail bike and an enduro bike. I’ve thought about getting rid of the enduro bike 🤔 to avoid the temptation to “go big” but paradoxically I feel safer on that bike as it is much more forgiving of mistakes.
53 years old here. Worse crash caused me 6 broken ribs, broken shoulder and rehab for 6 months. Like any sport, there is an inherent risk no matter how “safe” you are.
Just turned 55 and got back into Mountain biking after taking like a 10 year break.. EMTB is great, but I also go out in full gear now. Full face, Knee, Elbow, etc, Chest protector .
Hi Clint, your video really resonated with me. I’m in my early forties and have been mountain biking since I was 15. I just keep it safe these days and ride a similar style to you and feel very safe. I was riding road but have given that the flick so as to keep away from all the idiots in cars.
Flow channel graph best depicts what you’re saying. Where challenge is on the y axis and skills on the x axis of a line graph. 📈 There has to be a channel of between being too challenged or too bored, that keeps you safe and progressing.
In my 40s now and have been riding 30yrs. Hadn't had a big crash until last month. Broke some ribs, a vertebrae and dislocated shoulder. No surgery needed luckily. Really had me thinking about the sport. Decided to keep riding and shift my perspective from "high speed thrills" to "time spent on trails". Basically dialing it from 90% to a peaceful 50-60% max intensity. Has been a boring month. Looking forward to riding again.
Great video. I feel like social media has totally changed people's perspective on these things. It's so easy to not feel "serious" about any physical activity, because there are more and more people who will push to extremes, and we all have access to it. We all have to be very conscious of our own level of "pushing it". I'm 49. I have never totally "bit it" on a bike, believe it or not. I'm a casual rider. I've enjoyed bike riding off and on since I was a kid. I don't do crazy stuff. But I'll ride hard enough to exhaust myself, know I'm working myself physically, keeping myself healthy, etc. I call it "Dad biking", and I'm quite comfortable there. I suppose what I call "mountain biking" is better referred to as "XC" these days...
Started watching you many years ago with your singlespeed niner sir video Very glad, your son gets such good results and pleasure from riding.. It must be great joy for you watching him as a father. My son is 2, and i’m so happy watching him riding a balance bike
Good stuff. I always tell people being a casual trail riding mtn biker is safer than being a casual road biker and people have a tough time wrapping there head around it. People are afraid of trees and whatnot but I tell them, I’d rather hit a tree going 10-15 than hit the pavement doing 25-35 or getting hit by a car at speed.
Such wise words Just bought a Haibike Nduro 8 free ride Already researched the skills coach as I’ll need it as I’m 57 Just wish I’d done it years ago Thank you for making this video I live in Great Britain
I’m with you 100 percent - being on the bike is more important than taking chances and crashing and not being on the bike. I’m 57 - I took up riding about 4 years ago - Western Massachusetts- and I love it! I should hire a skills coach. I don’t go crazy - I crashed really hard once early on - knucklehead me didn’t realize wet painted wooden bridges and rubber tires on a hard turn don’t mix. Thankfully I didn’t break anything but it took 2 years to fully heal. I do little jumps on a rare occasion - maybe 2 inches off the ground. 😂 keep important what is important - my health!
It’s all about who YOU are… I’m still pushing out here in NZ @70 but accept if “stuff” starts happening that I didn’t see coming/ maybe I’ll have to dial it back. same thing happened when I was into whitewater kayaking.. got rid of t boat/ picked-up t biking intensity. still happy.
I was heavily into bmx as a kid until I landed inside of a cars back window and shredded my neck. My mom threw away my bike and it took me almost 20yrs to get back to riding. With that memory, I pass on any big drop or ramp that I see on the trail today. I personally don't feel like I'm missing out on anything, still love mountain biking.
Started mountain biking in 2019 on a lark at age 57 when my wife and I bought mountain bikes. That chance trip into a bike shop has turned out to be one of the most positive decisions we've ever made. We now take mountain biking vacations! The health benefits are significant and being outdoors more is amazing. Yes I broke my hand last year doing something I shouldn't have been doing but I learned my lesson. My gravel/road riding friends keep telling me to get a gravel bike and I refuse to. I don't trust people on the road.
Good common sense review; relevent for older riders especially - gravel bike riding is a happy medium between getting off paved roads w traffic and the technical/ sketch stuff that sends folks to the hospital on mountains bikes~ thanks for sharing
@ 55yo and 230lbs, I don't jump anymore other than the smallest of smalls. Heck, I stay away from gnarly trails too. Just not worth it. As you said, I hate to be out of commission, but for me it's that and I just hate to be injured.
Ooof. Definitely had more crashes the first couple years of riding as I found my limits. I too, was at Rock Creek on the fateful day and was on the track right as Huntley came down just a few turns before. RIP Hurricane Huntley. Much love and I can definitely identify with what you went through that day.
Great thought provoking video. Im a 64 year old adrenalin junkie. I've been downhill riding now for many years. I ride suited up from head to toe double knee pads shin guards chest and shoulder protection padded under shorts my gloves even have wrist protection to help sprains. The only thing i don't wear is a Halo. Much of my gear comes from goodwill so i don't have to much investment in padding. All that said "sorry" I've been able to walk away from most crashes or much less serious injury than i would otherwise. GET SUITED UP AND SHRED!!!😅
I have been mountain biking for 30 odd years. I have seen it all. My worst injury was a broken wrist, going super slow!! I raced DH and never hurt myself badly. Only ever hurt myself going slow! Going fast you are more focused in what your doing. I seen a young guy almost die on a DH track, he was wearing a cross country helmet. Knocked out, having a seizure etc. Had the rescue copper come. He woke up and wanted to keep riding!! Seen a good friend break his back, cracked and compressed vertebrae. Luckily he recovered! Wear the right gear for the ride! Ride to your comfort. But it is a dangerous sport!
Thank You Clint. It all comes down to your choice. I'm not looking for admiration from anyone. Like Clint I enjoy the outdoors and the feeling I get after a ride. I do ride some trails where I could get hurt, I guess all trails present that. Elbow & Knee pads can save a trip to urgent care. Some people require more of a thrill so they may risk injury but it's their choice. Practice not on trails, I believe will make you a better rider so I practice on flat ground trying to improve my skills and it does work. Best of Luck to All.
Well said, Clint! Use to ride on average 11 hours a week MTB/Gravel, had just built up a RLT RDO. Rode it for the first time at an event in VA, when I experienced debilitating sciatica a few days afterwards. Sciatica nerve pain to the point were I could not walk (very scary) and had to spend two weeks setting/sleeping in a lazy boy. Its been a month now and thankfully I am on the mend going to physical therapy, but still only able to ride 30 minutes at a time until I build strength back. A short time in the grand scheme of things but very hard emotionally.
I ride blacks and some doubles but am not shy about hopping off and walking dangerous parts…59 this year and don’t need the injuries. I’ll do drops and small jumps but I flatten them out as much as possible.
Always know your limits and wear your proper protective equipment it’s that simple . It’s ok to push yourself to more challenging feats but do it while listening to your body .
Owned one of the first Stumpjumpers back in 1986. At 69, I rode half of the GDMBR at a slow, easy, touring pace, sort of lazy like. At 71, it's rail trails, and gravel trails around Boulder. Rocky baby head trails, nope.
I think road biking is dangerous as you're at the mercy of distracted, careless and drunk drivers. So I got into gravel and MTB in my mid 40s, but never acquired good MTB skills. I stick to XC trails. It's all about knowing your limits, and be aware that it takes much longer to recover from a crash as you get older.
Yep, every year it seems somebody in my local biking community is hit by a car. My road bike stays indoors on the trainer these days. High speeds on spindly bikes amongst distracted 2-3 ton vehicles just isn't for me anymore. I find mountain biking to be way more interesting and fun anyway. Plus I don't have to wear spandex.
@@plmn93 my coworker's neighbor was drunk and ran over a cyclist who was riding on the shoulder. He got a 9-yr sentence. This destroyed 2 Families
Agreed. Gave up my road bike a few years ago. Gravel and mountain biking only for me. My road exposure is limited to getting to the trailhead or on to backroads.
I'll never road bike for those reasons. I've personally known too many riders who have been ran over, maimed or killed while road biking. It doesn't matter who is at fault, you still lose when you get hit by a car.
Distracted drivers!!! For various reasons drivers are looking at their phone or the car screen and road bike riders end up in the hospital. Really kinda gave up road biking. Too friggin dangerous for me unless it's the bike path.
Separated shoulder and broken leg, been riding since 1985, I'm 71 now and still riding.
Be careful.
Separated my shoulder as well. It was because I was trying to do something beyond my skill level (jumps) in my first year riding. That was the only serious injury I’ve ever had while mountain biking. Don’t be embarrassed to walk is my advice!
@@texasrogue93 We all can learn pretty much anything thru trial and error. As we get older , the problem becomes surviving the errors. I signed up with a skills coach recently. Results have been dramatic and fast - I highly recommend it.
Sadly you can't have titanium inserts to fix that... That I know of 😅 Keep enjoying safely!
Kudos! I am 61 and just back from riding in Whistler for a month. A friend of mine said that this is the sort of experience that I will fondly remember when looking back on my life when I am 80. I told him I am planning to still ride and ski and rock climb when I am 80. You’re 71 and that shows me it’s possible! Legend.
I learned this from surfing - Only ride waves you can handle today so you can ride again tomorrow.
My mantra is skip the feature so you can ride the trail. Same sentiment
Wow! I am English and know nothing about surfing. I just assumed even a beginner could try and surf the biggest wave, but just that they would fall off quicker. It’s just water …what’s the problem?
Why do mountain bikers wear almost no protective gear when riding boulders? Look at motocrossers. They wear as much gear as they can. Unprotected shins, forearms, ankles, chests, backs and necks. It blows my mind.
Maybe I avoided the “just send it” mentality as I mostly ride solo. I realized that I am there just to have fun and not push faster times. Stay safe everybody.
I like to be fast on a climb. You can have a goal to be a fastest and trying it safely.
exactly my thoughts. i ride in the mountains and if something happens, it will take days before anyone find me (if i am unconscious) by accident.
Perfectly said. I like Tom Cruise’s motto “dont be cautious, be competent!”
I try to ride Fast when possible and whit in my Limits so Days they are farther away sometimes closer.
You present MTB from the viewpoint of an over-40 or over-50 rider. I'm now 72, have been doing various forms of cycling - both road and mtb - for many years. As I've aged, my bones and joints are more brittle, my vision isn't what it once was, and my balance has deteriorated. I ride now primarily for cardio-vascular and mental health. If that means XC, easier trails, and safer roads (when necessary), so be it. The goal is to keep riding while I'm physically able, and not endanger that privilege by subjecting myself to a high probability of crashing and injury. Thanks for this honest post.
That’s exactly right. Don’t compete with your younger self. Be who you are now, but be ALL you can be now.
Mtb is dangerous, but so is being overweight and depressed. Mtb is good for your health and mental state. Enjoy it and love the outdoors!
I suffer from type 1 diabetes and depression and I have to say every ride on my E-full sus bike is an antidepressent for my mind and very good for my blood sugar.Thank god for this sport 🙌
North Shore Betty is turning 76(!) next month and she's been riding the (in) famous North Shore of BC since she started mountain biking - in her 40s. What a legend. Great interview on UA-cam talking about how she approaches risk.
Remember you don't need to be pushing limits to have a bad crash. It can happen anytime anywhere and sometimes more likely on familiar trails that you take for granted.
Very true. I’ve had two crashes this year, both on trails I’ve ridden before, one on a feature I’ve probably done 100 times at least. Sometimes accidents happen.
@@sdevans2yup, I was hitting a big wooden ramp jump, that shoots you up on a platform and then you drop off the platform on the other side . I had hit this multiple times before with no issues but this time I didn't notice my shorts came unbuckled and were sagging down and at the very top of the lip my shorts were sucked up in the rear wheel, locking the the wheel up and I was catapulted probably 20 feet and landed on my shoulder snapping my collar bone.
Not fun because I was by myself about 2 miles from my truck and my phone got thrown into the woods.
I try not to hit big features when I'm by myself anymore .
Good stuff. My friend once called how I ride ‘agressive XC’. At first I was insulted, but then thought ‘yeah, that’s about right’ and I’m more than ok with it. At 61, I know I have a closing window on how long I can keep riding at my current level and don’t want to be off the bike due to injury if I can help it!
It can be. If you ride too aggressively and if you ride too timidly. Crazy how riding to slow can get you hurt and riding too fast can get you hurt also. Speed is your friend and can also be your enemy depending on terrain and your skill level
This video resonates with me. I've been mountain biking for 30 years. I turn 60 very soon and I hope to continue to mountain bike for a couple of more decades and in those 30 years of riding I've had my share of crashes of various degrees resulting in anything from no injuries to those that put me out for weeks. I understand the risks and dangers of mountain biking but they can be mitigated by being honest with your skills and have the discipline to ride within them. Like you I used to ski a lot. For years we got a ski house in Vermont so every weekend during ski season I would load up my truck every Friday so after work I head north for the weekend. I've had countless amounts of falls and crashed and none of them ever took me out. The key message here I think is to know your skill limits and stay in them. When presented with a challenge to do something I'm not comfortable with I always so no thanks, I have nothing to prove and if I don't make it home alive my wife will kill me.
You got lucky, you can still get seriously injured riding within your skill level.
@@GnarlieCharlie That's true. I try to manage my risks and so far so good. The alternative is to sit on the couch all day and that's just not an option.
Exactly right. “I have nothing to prove” - that is the key. Btw your last statement is gold - you die twice 😂😂
I'm 54 and just getting into mountain biking. I have been gravel riding for several years and wanted to give it a shout. My main worry is safty so im taking it slow and sticking to easily marked trails. Its good to hear videos like this to put safety at the top of mind what ever level your at, thanks!
Great video...I've been MTB full time now for about +20 years and just turned 57 years old. I've had my fair share of accidents but the worst was an OTB (12-13 years ago) superman that lead to me dislocating a bunch of stuff in my left hand. The recovery was 2 months of tiny pins in my wrist/hand to keep stuff scarred over to hold it all together. 7 years ago, I also had a pacemaker installed and thus I need to be careful to not fall too hard cause I risk pulling the leads from the heart wall contact points.... But, I still ride. Saw another comment mentioning aggressive XC as a riding style and can relate to that. Like you, I continue to do stuff to get outside as much as possible.
One of my gripes these days is the trend of trail builders & organizations trending towards mostly building black to double black trails (PNW) in & around Seattle area. I too grew up skiing and was even on ski patrol for about 5 years. The bulk of skiers have the most fun on blues and I wish more MTB blue trails were being built. That would help get more riders involved and be more fun for everyone. Some of our single black diamond trails here are so technical and committing...they are not worth the risk for me.
Again, thanks for the great video and mention to Paul. Here's to keep the rubber side down and safe riding to you.
I am 55 and just completed week of back country and downhill MTB rides. No question the key is to know and respect your limits.Heck, I’ve had friends who have rolled their golf cart so things can happen in any sport (but the cardio isn’t there). Have fun, be safe!
This is exactly how I feel about mountain biking. You describe your approach to mountain biking exactly like I have done to friends in the past. I ski the same way.
At 61 after 34 years of mtb just had maybe my worst crash ever. On a stretch I've ridden over hundreds of times. Happened so fast there's nothing I could have done. Thankfully no broken bones but my shoulder feels like like toast.
Really got me thinking about the future.....
Sounds like me on the road, made a slow right turn and my front tire went flat landed on right hip and needed right hip replacement
Unsolicited advice incoming.. consider stem cell therapy, even traveling if you need to. Shoulders are a b@tch. Surgery isn’t statistically better than no intervention. Stem cell therapy works.
Thanks Clint. Love seeing the comments from others in their 60’s who also love being outdoors and riding (carefully).
I'm 57 y/o and recently got diagnosed with a blood clotting disorder where I have to be on blood thinners for the rest of my life. I decided to give up mountain biking and focus on gravel biking. I'm a skilled mountain biker for Michigan trails and am having a hard time with my decision. I love to go fast and wonder if I can tame it down. Thanks for the video, Clint, Safety to you and your son.
Drink your Castor oil, it'll either help or not.
I took up mountain biking in my mid thirties and got more into it after I stopped riding motocross. I love being outdoors and using cycling as my main form of exercise. Due to my motocross experience, I'm very careful on my mountain bike. I've learned that most of my unexpected get offs are due to continuing to ride after I'm fatigued. Even a simple front wheel washout can turn nasty when you get a piece of cocina embedded in your knee.
Hey Clint, I really enjoy your style, great video. I'm now 73 years old and I got my first mountain bike in 1987, I entered xc races for about 10 years and have continued riding til now. My best piece of advice for novices is that your goal should be to ride smoothly instead of trying to ride fast. If you ride smoothly you will get faster with time and you will enjoy it more and suffer fewer injuries. In all of my years on the trails I have had relatively few injuries, a broken hand, a separated shoulder, gravel rash and bumps and bruises. Mountain biking is a great way to stay in shape and to get out in nature and (strangely) to calm your mind.
Just the fact that you are posting this at 73 years old tells me that mountain biking keeps you fit and active. Thanks for posting! Mountain biking is not as dangerous as sitting on the couch and watching TV every day.
Yip, love t intensity of t moment/ GREAT for my mind as it’s t only way I can get into t outdoors now/ used to b long wilderness trips.. but a major heart event saw me lose toes/ b short of breath quickly/ took to an ebike w clip-ins(can’t feel my feet). GOTTA keep moving man..
Great video, well said...
I'm now 59 years old and have been riding for 34 years. Done some road and mtn bike racing in the distant past but now these days it's for fun, my health and getting back to nature. I've broken my pelvis, needed stitches on a couple of occasions and shed more blood and had more bruises than I can count..
I can't afford to get hurt or take the time away from work so I'm gonna go out ride at my comfort level with a big smile and if you want to go around me that's just fine too...)
The risk assessment and calculation at each obstacle is incredibly stimulating mentally and physically. If I’m riding solo I use an 80-85% rule were I ride within my perceived skill set at the given day. If I’m with a partner or group I’ll up my percent to around 90.
When I started mountain biking I loved riding through the forest. I wasn't trying to go fast, in fact I usually ride as slow as I can so I can enjoy the scenery. The other factor was that I had to go to work come Monday, injuries were not an option.
I know momentum is necessary and when it's called for I use it. But I know I am a very conservative rider who just enjoys riding at 71 and hoping to keep on riding for many years to come.
You're doing a great public service with this video. I am horrified by some of the catastrophic injuries people sustain, including death and paralysis in their quest to outdo. Part of the problem is that some of the videos feature professional riders who are very capable, but even some of them end up with grievous injuries. I'm like you, Clint, I enjoy the outdoors, the fitness that mtb brings, and my trail riding brings me plenty of thrills without jumps. I even enjoy the challenge of a slow technical uphill. It takes a lot of technique and finesse.
I just do xc. Very little gnar at 56 years old. Worst I've gotten is scraped up. Thank God for protecting me.
Over the past 5yrs. I've taken three different skills classes- for new learning and refreshing bike technique. I can't recommend them enough! They're fun, challenging, and stress the importance of the nuances of riding. I'm 62 and lean to your preferred terrain--XC/trail...and I want to keep the fun going as safely and as long as I can. Thanks Clint!
The greatest danger in mountain biking is the drive to the park, trail or mountains you’re aiming to ride. Nothing beats travelling by car for taking huge risks unconsciously. The additional risk of adrenaline sports pales, statistically. The biggest danger in MTB (& other activities) has come from impressionable people trying to achieve the spectacular performance shown on social media, without the years of experience building.
That's the main problem the mtb industry. It perpetuates and pushes this aggressive style of riding to push expensive bikes. Not caring that young riders will instantly try harder and harder features, not even close to being ready.
My local city bike park with decent jump lines. I see kids on department store cheaply made bikes getting injured or wreaking their bike. Then you have the 20 to 40 year olds on expansive bikes, also getting seriously f ed getting to trouble fast because they think the bike will do 80% of the riding for you. I'm not surprised because all industry commercials showing off new bike models with pro riders on crazy trails up in Whistler, Squamish, and the PNW. Nothing close to the reality for 95% of its consumers that buy higher end bikes.
Agree, everyone wants to be a highlight reel. I just like to go on long physically challenging rides. With some reasonable downhill.
Could care less who thinks what about me or who gets there 1st.
Been riding our local Santos trails for 10 plus years…. Broke 3 ribs last year thanks to a tree clip… no matter how good I ride and how focused I am, things happen….. As a FF I have seen several on our trail system get hurt, we heal, move forward. Whenever you ride and crash even though it may be minimal, you will get hurt. Everything out there in the woods is unforgiving…..I still love riding though and at 51, I won’t give it up anytime soon. It’s truly my “out” from job stress and I’m blessed to be able to enjoy each ride despite what the day brings.
Also 51 and ride MTB as much as I can and dedicated Gravel trails. I know there are risks and I am okay with that. Road biking is what I won't do as the risk of serious injury or worse is exponentially higher.
For me mountain biking is just like snow skiing. You chose how safe or risky you will be each time you go out. Once you gain a little bit of basic skill I believe you can largely control your risk exposure. I am 68 yrs old and have been riding regularly for the past 5 yrs. While I do mostly XC type riding, here in MN, we have ups and downs, trees, berms, roller and jumps intermingled in flow trails. To improve my skills I just started taking training with a skills coach. This is proving to be very worth while and I highly recommend it.
Finally , for us older guys who like to push ourselves a bit, wear protective gear : elbow, knees, hips protection is an easy way to start.
I've been mostly road cycling for 40 years with tens of thousands of miles over those years. I've had a number of crashes. Nothing too serious. I think the most important thing is to both know your limits and know the limits of the bicycle you're riding at that moment. I know that every time I go out for a ride there's always a chance I can get injured or worse. That's just part of the deal.
Running, Clint. It’s the greatest thing in the world.
I do love some cycling, also, but running mountain courses is heaven on earth.
same here… ironically two of my worst injuries happened while trail running
100% I just turned 61 and train year round so that I can run R2R and Rim2River at the Grand Canyon each year (as CC runs. I don't walk or use poles). I cross train on a heavy mountain bike, on the same trails on the local peaks, that I run on. Vids on the channel.
Running Sucks compared to Mountain Biking. It just does
Healthy conversation. Thanks Clint!
Two words that I want to repeat from your video and the comments: risk and limits. Even when I’m well within my limits I’m taking risks where accidents can happen.
I remember trying to bunny hop a fallen tree. I swear that tree reached up and tagged my rear wheel sending me over my bars.
same
Good points, Clint! I believe that beginners are more apt to get injured just because of the lack of experience. For instance, when I began mountain biking 4 years ago, I would take 45 minutes to reach the 1/2 way point on my favorite trail where I would stop and rest. During my earlier slower days, I fell and was injured all the time. In one particular section of this trail I was very apprehensive of because of the off angle roots that I would loose the front wheel on causing cracked ribs, etc. Now I ride this whole trail in 25-28 minutes and zoom over that same section in a flash! You are absolutely right about knowing your limits and taking the time to research the sport and learn by practice. BTW, I'm 76 years old.
Good on you! I'm 69 and have been riding for 12 months, most of family thinks I'm nuts! I feel like a 12 yr. old out on the trail. I pad up, don't jump (much), and stay off wet roots.
I totally agree on skill level biking as well and do not take a friend that has a lower skillset as that will get them hurt :(
I align with your philosophy and perspectives that you lay out in the video. There is no risk free sport. With MTB’ing you need to take steps to mitigate those risks and understand your limits. Thanks for sharing!
Excellent discussion Clint, very sorry to hear of a loss of life, you did such a great job on the entire mountain biking perspective. I am terrified of smooth fast jumps but l have no issue with drops, rocks, and rough terrain. so very much appreciate your input on all the types and levels of mountain biking!
That's almost exactly where I'm at. Drop and rough terrain I really like.. I have almost zero interest in big jumps. I come from an off road dirt bike background. There's a reason I never did moto!
I have been a road biker since I was about five years old. From 1970 to 2010 I did triathlon all over the midwest and in Florida when I moved to Florida. About five years ago when I was about 74 My Rd. friends talked me into Biking so I bought a hard tail to a mountain bike then a giant mountain bike and now five years later it’s 79. I am riding a canyon neuron 7E bike because is that progress from green trails the blue trails no black at my age, I found that getting up some of the hills was getting a little difficult and the bike helps me greatly, I try not to go too fast though because of the pedal assist the bike out of 20 miles an hour. I love mountain biking here in the trails of South Florida such as Balm and Alafia.
I have a very similar attitude to mountain biking as you. Like this it's an extremely safe and rewarding activity and one you can do for most of your life.
My goal on my (weekend only) rides is to be able to walk into the office on Monday and type with both hands. That said, I like technical features and (small) jumps, but only ride them when I feel confident.
Good chat, Clint. It’s all about risk management. You manage risk by improving skills, by knowing your limits and progressing gradually, patiently, and knowing the inherent risks of the environment and the activity.
If you are injured, the injury is bad enough, but being out of commission is bad for your health too, physical and mental health, perhaps not as dramatic but rather more insidious, but no less certain.
Thanks for your wisdom.
I started at age 52.. GET COACHING ,before getting bad habits. I do drops and still working on steep lipped jumps at 62.. addictive!!
I tell anyone that new and older to get as much training as you can (from classes...pros...ect). It really does help.
When I did it, I found cross country mountain biking to be relatively safe. Racing BMX is not if you have that major but when. I’ve been riding bikes for over 50 years and never broke a bone until I raced a BMX bike. In 11 years I broke many bones. Riding a mountain bike I crashed twice over a span of many years without a serious injury. You’re right. Pushing yourself beyond your skill level increases the risk of serious injury. At 70, staying in the game is more important that inflating my ego in “look what I can do”!
After watching this video I’ve done a lot of thinking about what said about what kind of riding you will be doing. The risk and reward , like you I don’t want to be off bike because of an injury . I’m changing the way I’m riding now with more caution and more awareness. I to love to ride every day if I can 😊
Thanks for covering this topic. I feel like I evolved to this same conclusion myself. I hope other people that watch your channel arrive hear as well. I'm 54 now and for many years rode as though I would be fine no matter what I did. like you I grew up skiing hear in the north east. then started riding mtb in 1989. About 15 years ago had a bad crash doing lift access at mt snow Vt. Result was a bad concussion. today I ride mostly XC and some moderately challenging trail riding. Having clear understanding of the consequences is a very important part of deciding how and what one rides. Thanks for the excellent content and thought full commentary. Keep it coming.
You nailed it with not wanting to be sidelined & off the bike. I had a crash last year and am now looking at a shoulder surgery to finally fix everything. At 45 years old and very active, I'm dreading the downtime I have coming.
That one crash off a big (for me) jump has not only affected my riding for the last year, but many other activities I enjoy. The desire to progress with jumping and drops is huge but I definitely need to weigh the risk vs reward more. This sport is amazing and as dangerous as you make it.
Great content and enjoyed listening to your viewpoint ! … Thanks for sharing & posting … as a 59 year old who’s about to turn 60 in 6 mths … You just got to know your own limits and deal with it the best you can, but have fun… plain & simple … Also would love to say that I’m really enjoying reading these comments and feedback.
All great points! I crashed two years-ago and ended up with a torn rotator cuff. Surgery last October and I’m just now about 90% healed. All that to say, I was unable to do many of the things I love, like weightlifting and golf (and riding). One other thing Clint didn’t mention is as you age and you face an injury that incapacitates you for months, you lose SO much of your fitness and strength and it takes much longer to recover than when you were younger. I ride mostly blues now and never try to exceed my capability.
100% agree with all of this. I got into MTB about 2 years ago, I'm 43. I'm really active, kiteboarding, surfing, foiling, and the joy I get from it is the physical challenge, the push. I enjoy XC type of terrain like you do, and ride mostly flat terrain at home and still love it, along with trips to Dupont, Pisgah, etc. Spot on, all of this, no desire to learn to jump or push beyond a black in Pisgah (and that's really pushing it for now). I want to be active as long as possible, at as high of a level as possible which means avoiding injuries as much as possible. I've had little things take me out for a week or two (Dengue fever, etc.) and even that drove me crazy, so long story short, stay active as much as possible while not getting hurt.
Great video.
Great conversation, Clint. I have come to realize I am okay with where I am at in regards to progression. No need to push the envelope just for view/likes on social media
Broke my collar bone on technical downhill, narrow trail, ten years ago. Now ride fire roads, or road bikes. In my 70's and don't want any injuries.
I turn 62 next month, been riding since the 90's. Very fortunate to live in NNJ..Lots of climbing and great rocky descent.. I have crashed many times and broken ribs and bruises...I attribute most of my crashes to loosing focus.. Now i concentrate more , keep the drops small and the speed the check...stop a lot and enjoy the Forrest and being outside and exploring....Clint this was a fantastic vid!!!
I've been mountain biking for 34 years - racing XC and DH I've broken my hip, broken ribs, 5 concussions, multiple lacerations requiring stitches and internal bleeding. It just happens. I am not the craziest rider by any means - but I do push myself a bit. But sometimes stuff just happens and you end up on the ground. It's part of the sport.
Agree! I’ve been at it since 89! And at 51 I still ride super technical trails in the mid Atlantic. I find focus a huge factor. Most of my crashes are in places where I let my focus drop. Usually close to the parking lot. One point I think could be added is that MTB tech has gotten so good and new riders have way more bike than they can handle. I started my son out with a hard tail for this reason. If you learn to handle a bike that’s less capable you’re more likely to progress safer and learn your true limits. Great talk and much needed!
Almost met my maker on numerous occasions while on the road. In MTB a few cuts and bruises, but I’m not doing anything too daredevil. My worst crash (which knocked me unconscious) is when I hit a wash out on a RAIL TRAIL which is as tame as off road riding can get
Clint, thanks for making this video. I am almost 45 and have been riding Enduro for almost 4 years now. However, I noticed that so much anxiety comes along with the thought of crashing all the time, that I’ve leaned into XC riding a lot more. I can definitely motel resonate with wanting to keep my fitness level high and stay on the bike day. I am about to leave the mountains of California for Florida so am hopeful to keep MTB a big part of my life. There is just nothings else like it. Keep making these videos. They are really helpful. Thanks Clint!
Thanks for the post. What part of Florida are you moving to?
@ClintGibbs We have been looking at Ponte Vedra (south of Jacksonville) most recently. I’ve tried researching a bit and seems the best trails in Florida are probably a couple hours away from there.
I used to jump. Never hit the jumps anymore. My goal is to have solid controlled flow when I ride, not just speed. Mostly hit xc trails only.
When your jump failed the landing frame I remember the exact howling in pain from when I fell off of a ladder, not knowing exactly how much was broken, but knowing that stuff was ! The equivalent of 5 five gallon buckets of water weight for me hitting the concrete from 8 feet up, is held together with bones. In your case, velocity was also in place.
Minimize the risks maximize the fun
As best we can - thanks Clint!
Started riding 6 months now on trails & yesterday broke that rule of riding on a ramp & lost control / hurt my knees / lesson learned to stick with i love .
Great video. Exactly how I feel. At 67 I just slow down. I maintain our local MTB trails and that is great trail therapy also. As you said gotta be out side
My university days (20+ years ago)!I actually raced XC and since then keep in touch with my team - they are still some of my best friends, our kids play together, well you get the picture. For me, mountain biking made me who I am. Some of those guys went on to enduro riding, some went even further and every year when we meet up to go off do some MTB for a few days I see that while I am ahead of most of those guys uphill, going down some trails is becoming more and more challenging for me. I had a nasty crash 15 years ago and this just changed my perspective. I am happy where I am and acquired enough back bone not to get provoked into "just send it" attitude some of those guys have.
Ride within your abilities is key as well as stop trying to keep up with naturally faster riders. Also I had to learn to stop making strava segments such a priority. Having fun is the point. I have just as much fun riding a green, blue or black trail within my limits going slower than people in the group going 30 seconds + faster on the downhill sections. Great topic for newer riders as well as us older riders
I stick to green and light blue low desert trails. I still end up falling sideways once in a while ( big rock and pedal strike is the common issue). Occasional wash-out on faster flows. Getting outside and covering more ground than walking are the biggest motivations. No interest in jumping.
Couldn't agree more on your vision of the Mountain bike as a sport activity.
This is very similar to the advice I got after breaking my shoulder on my snowboard a few months ago: “do you want to go fast now or do you want to do this for the rest of your life?” No less than 5 people in a week, family, friends, folks at work, X-Ray technicians, all said “you need to slow down out there.” Also I love the recommendation to hire a coach, I’ve had several MTB coaching sessions this year and have progressed a ton and am riding so much more safely!
Couldn’t agree more with your approach to this great sport: ride within in your limits, get coaching and always be aware of how you feel in in certain types of terrain. Send it and peer pressure can only lead to serious injury and set backs. I live in the Tetons and we have beautiful XC trails that get you deep into the mountains and satisfy that need to get into the wilderness. We also have a great ski area with challenging downhill trails - I don’t take the chair despite peer pressure from ski buddies. XC is fine and the health and mental clarity benefits are fantastic. Thanks for the chat!
I’m 100% with you. If I get 3-4” of air on a jump, that’s like “whoa buddy, that’s good for today!” I feel that everything within mtn biking is within the riders control and choice (barring some crazy rare incident). Road biking has so much that can happen entirely out of your control (assuming you’re on public rides). Every crash I’ve had in mtn biking was from poor choices : not enough focus, not enough skill, not enough experience, etc. I’ll always take tech over flow: the satisfaction of getting thru something regardless of speed is what I most enjoy.
Love your channel Clint. I started mountain biking at 55 in the ATL area just before covid hit. Now I'm 60. The one thing you could also run into a you get older is a heat attack on the trail. I've had my heart rate as high as 185 bpm on a climb with no ill effects but i didn't like it for sure. Be careful. Have fun.
30 years ago I rode a hardtail with a Rockshox Mag21 front fork with cantilever brakes. Todays modern suspension and brakes allows you to go much faster. If you lose it now, you simply crash at a faster speed resulting in more and bigger injuries. Crashes were much slower in the old days.
Good video ! I"ve been riding mtb close to 30 yrs. Im 66yrs old. I had my share of falls endo"s during that time , i still ride drops & hop up stuff , big roots , rocks , but now if something looks really dangerous , i"ll probably pass on it , reason , i love riding & wanna be able to ride tomorrow ! 🤟
I’m 56 and finally made it to Whistler this summer. I mostly stuck to blue runs and had an amazing time. My favorite is Crank it Up, with decent, table top jumps, but not too much risk especially if you manage yourself. I’ll probably never ride the famous A Line, Dirt Merchant, or bigger runs there, and I’m ok with that. I relate to all the points in this video. My teenage son goes off big gap jumps, huge drops, and highly technical downhill runs, but they’re not for me at this point in my life. The risk isn’t worth the reward. Btw, I took a private lesson at Whistler, and it was great. It really improved my jump technique and made me a safer rider.
Any recommendations for instructors?
@@alfman7630 My instructor’s name was Sig, and he was from New Zealand. My lesson was just a single private lesson I bought through Whistler’s website. Sig was great. I’m sure all their instructors are solid. Btw, my son attended Whistler’s week long “Summer Gravity Camp.” It’s basically full day group lessons for five consecutive days. My son improved a lot through that camp and had a great time. They have a version of that camp geared for adults as well that’s probably worth checking out. But even just a single private lesson focused on a specific area (e.g., jumps) is worthwhile.
Really appreciate this video, Important to know your limits. I think you have been near by at my worst crashes and I've been able to walk away from all of them. And yes, I've been injured worse trail running than I have riding.
Fantastic Video Clint. I haven’t watched you for a few years because I left England (an area superb for MTB) for a relatively flat area in France. Road cycling is much safer in my region. The French are much more courteous and patient with road cycling. I have a good XC bike which I have take to the local forest a few times ,(biggest oak forest in Europe) found a few single trails, but it is flat, flat , flat. With regard to running. Have you tried mountain running /hill running endurance events? That is as exciting as mtb xc. Try it. You will never find running boring again. Great video. Thanks
Great conversation Clint and timely for me. I’m currently on the sidelines for the second time this season. I’ve resolved to dial it back a bit, like you my priority is to enjoy riding outdoors not necessarily testing my limits. My reaction time and body-space awareness are not bad but also not what they were even 5 years ago (now late 50s).
I have both a trail bike and an enduro bike. I’ve thought about getting rid of the enduro bike 🤔 to avoid the temptation to “go big” but paradoxically I feel safer on that bike as it is much more forgiving of mistakes.
This is 100% my attitude about riding…great video Clint!
53 years old here. Worse crash caused me 6 broken ribs, broken shoulder and rehab for 6 months. Like any sport, there is an inherent risk no matter how “safe” you are.
Just turned 55 and got back into Mountain biking after taking like a 10 year break.. EMTB is great, but I also go out in full gear now. Full face, Knee, Elbow, etc, Chest protector .
Hi Clint, your video really resonated with me. I’m in my early forties and have been mountain biking since I was 15. I just keep it safe these days and ride a similar style to you and feel very safe. I was riding road but have given that the flick so as to keep away from all the idiots in cars.
Flow channel graph best depicts what you’re saying. Where challenge is on the y axis and skills on the x axis of a line graph. 📈 There has to be a channel of between being too challenged or too bored, that keeps you safe and progressing.
In my 40s now and have been riding 30yrs. Hadn't had a big crash until last month. Broke some ribs, a vertebrae and dislocated shoulder. No surgery needed luckily. Really had me thinking about the sport. Decided to keep riding and shift my perspective from "high speed thrills" to "time spent on trails". Basically dialing it from 90% to a peaceful 50-60% max intensity. Has been a boring month. Looking forward to riding again.
Great video. I feel like social media has totally changed people's perspective on these things. It's so easy to not feel "serious" about any physical activity, because there are more and more people who will push to extremes, and we all have access to it.
We all have to be very conscious of our own level of "pushing it". I'm 49. I have never totally "bit it" on a bike, believe it or not. I'm a casual rider. I've enjoyed bike riding off and on since I was a kid. I don't do crazy stuff. But I'll ride hard enough to exhaust myself, know I'm working myself physically, keeping myself healthy, etc. I call it "Dad biking", and I'm quite comfortable there.
I suppose what I call "mountain biking" is better referred to as "XC" these days...
Started watching you many years ago with your singlespeed niner sir video Very glad, your son gets such good results and pleasure from riding.. It must be great joy for you watching him as a father. My son is 2, and i’m so happy watching him riding a balance bike
Great video. I would like to add that injuries and severe injuries can happen on easy trail riding.
Good stuff. I always tell people being a casual trail riding mtn biker is safer than being a casual road biker and people have a tough time wrapping there head around it. People are afraid of trees and whatnot but I tell them, I’d rather hit a tree going 10-15 than hit the pavement doing 25-35 or getting hit by a car at speed.
Such wise words
Just bought a Haibike Nduro 8 free ride
Already researched the skills coach as I’ll need it as I’m 57
Just wish I’d done it years ago
Thank you for making this video
I live in Great Britain
I’m with you 100 percent - being on the bike is more important than taking chances and crashing and not being on the bike. I’m 57 - I took up riding about 4 years ago - Western Massachusetts- and I love it! I should hire a skills coach. I don’t go crazy - I crashed really hard once early on - knucklehead me didn’t realize wet painted wooden bridges and rubber tires on a hard turn don’t mix. Thankfully I didn’t break anything but it took 2 years to fully heal. I do little jumps on a rare occasion - maybe 2 inches off the ground. 😂 keep important what is important - my health!
It’s all about who YOU are… I’m still pushing out here in NZ @70 but accept if “stuff” starts happening that I didn’t see coming/ maybe I’ll have to dial it back. same thing happened when I was into whitewater kayaking.. got rid of t boat/ picked-up t biking intensity. still happy.
You can make MTB as extreme as you want, I keep the wheels on the ground and ride to be out in the woods.
I was heavily into bmx as a kid until I landed inside of a cars back window and shredded my neck. My mom threw away my bike and it took me almost 20yrs to get back to riding. With that memory, I pass on any big drop or ramp that I see on the trail today. I personally don't feel like I'm missing out on anything, still love mountain biking.
Errors in judgement will get ya every time.
I recently was reminded of that very important fact.
Started mountain biking in 2019 on a lark at age 57 when my wife and I bought mountain bikes. That chance trip into a bike shop has turned out to be one of the most positive decisions we've ever made. We now take mountain biking vacations! The health benefits are significant and being outdoors more is amazing.
Yes I broke my hand last year doing something I shouldn't have been doing but I learned my lesson. My gravel/road riding friends keep telling me to get a gravel bike and I refuse to. I don't trust people on the road.
Good common sense review; relevent for older riders especially - gravel bike riding is a happy medium between getting off paved roads w traffic and the technical/ sketch stuff that sends folks to the hospital on mountains bikes~ thanks for sharing
@ 55yo and 230lbs, I don't jump anymore other than the smallest of smalls. Heck, I stay away from gnarly trails too. Just not worth it. As you said, I hate to be out of commission, but for me it's that and I just hate to be injured.
Ooof. Definitely had more crashes the first couple years of riding as I found my limits. I too, was at Rock Creek on the fateful day and was on the track right as Huntley came down just a few turns before. RIP Hurricane Huntley. Much love and I can definitely identify with what you went through that day.
Great thought provoking video. Im a 64 year old adrenalin junkie. I've been downhill riding now for many years. I ride suited up from head to toe double knee pads shin guards chest and shoulder protection padded under shorts my gloves even have wrist protection to help sprains. The only thing i don't wear is a Halo. Much of my gear comes from goodwill so i don't have to much investment in padding. All that said "sorry" I've been able to walk away from most crashes or much less serious injury than i would otherwise. GET SUITED UP AND SHRED!!!😅
I have been mountain biking for 30 odd years. I have seen it all. My worst injury was a broken wrist, going super slow!! I raced DH and never hurt myself badly. Only ever hurt myself going slow! Going fast you are more focused in what your doing. I seen a young guy almost die on a DH track, he was wearing a cross country helmet. Knocked out, having a seizure etc. Had the rescue copper come. He woke up and wanted to keep riding!! Seen a good friend break his back, cracked and compressed vertebrae. Luckily he recovered! Wear the right gear for the ride! Ride to your comfort. But it is a dangerous sport!
Thank You Clint. It all comes down to your choice. I'm not looking for admiration from anyone. Like Clint I enjoy the outdoors and the feeling I get after a ride. I do ride some trails where I could get hurt, I guess all trails present that. Elbow & Knee pads can save a trip to urgent care. Some people require more of a thrill so they may risk injury but it's their choice. Practice not on trails, I believe will make you a better rider so I practice on flat ground trying to improve my skills and it does work. Best of Luck to All.
Well said, Clint! Use to ride on average 11 hours a week MTB/Gravel, had just built up a RLT RDO. Rode it for the first time at an event in VA, when I experienced debilitating sciatica a few days afterwards. Sciatica nerve pain to the point were I could not walk (very scary) and had to spend two weeks setting/sleeping in a lazy boy. Its been a month now and thankfully I am on the mend going to physical therapy, but still only able to ride 30 minutes at a time until I build strength back. A short time in the grand scheme of things but very hard emotionally.
I ride blacks and some doubles but am not shy about hopping off and walking dangerous parts…59 this year and don’t need the injuries. I’ll do drops and small jumps but I flatten them out as much as possible.
Always know your limits and wear your proper protective equipment it’s that simple . It’s ok to push yourself to more challenging feats but do it while listening to your body .
Owned one of the first Stumpjumpers back in 1986. At 69, I rode half of the GDMBR at a slow, easy, touring pace, sort of lazy like. At 71, it's rail trails, and gravel trails around Boulder. Rocky baby head trails, nope.