The Real Meaning of the Vegvísir

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  • @ArithHärger
    @ArithHärger  2 роки тому +100

    At minute 05:37 I say a mistake, pointing that between the end of the Viking Period and the appearance of the first galdrastafir ("magic staves") "half a century" has passed. It's obviously "half a millennium" (500 years between the end of the Viking Period and the 16th century when the simpler and stylized galdrastafir appear for the first time). This is the second time I make this mistake. Starting to getting mad at myself. I'm tired and it is starting to show lol.

    • @loganlaughman3854
      @loganlaughman3854 2 роки тому +11

      We all make mistakes brother. One of my favorite things about you is your proclivity to self correct, and make corrections based on new information. I love your videos. They're so well researched. Funny enough, upon investigating for myself, I found that the vegvisir was not Norse. It has caused a lot of animosity among my peers, who want to follow the Norse path. Many people don't want to see evidence of their misunderstanding, or mistakes. The best we can do is present the evidence, and live in the truth.

    • @renata_of_the_craft
      @renata_of_the_craft 2 роки тому +7

      To err is human, this is an easy mistake to make, I myself have done the same error elsewhere on a Facebook reply. No need to get mad. Your work gives you lots of great recognition and is valued by so many. I came across a video discussion by Ocean Keltoi and Wolf the Red with someone else there participating, and they sung your praises! So keep your head high, you're doing a great job here. Truly appreciated! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

    • @emcee1997
      @emcee1997 2 роки тому +9

      This disclosure only makes me love, and trust, the video and your work more. Before even having watched the video. Owning up to, and correcting, our mistakes is far more valuable than not making any (though I can totally relate to beating yourself up for not being perfect 😉).

    • @imadomyrdin
      @imadomyrdin 2 роки тому

      Listening to and understanding your words should be sufficent to recognize this slip of the tounge as what it is. ❤️btw. vegvísir is rather close to wegweiser in german. have a wonderful day and thank you for your diligent work of the heart.

    • @DakiniDream
      @DakiniDream 2 роки тому +2

      No worries, mistakes happens to us all. Good video over all, and i hope it will help to clear again some misconceptions still around. Thanks lot !

  • @Bluetooth55
    @Bluetooth55 2 роки тому +127

    As someone who has this symbol tattooed on them, I am aware of the orgin and historical facts, however I still have a connection with it and like what it means.

    • @MisstressMourtisha
      @MisstressMourtisha 2 роки тому +2

      💕💕🌲

    • @migz1652
      @migz1652 2 роки тому +1

      I respect that! Cheers.

    • @crazyjane6570
      @crazyjane6570 2 роки тому +12

      I’m the exact same! I have this tattooed on my wrist! I like to think of it as always finding my way home or my way out, as in the ability to get myself out of a bad situation. I suppose don’t give up you’ll figure it out kinda thing.. I don’t regret any of my ink so I’m all good.actually ❤️that it’s a pile of stuff put together therefore my take is it’s an individual interpretation anyway?! Thanks Arith for educating me once more I hadn’t seen the 2nd part of the design before but will now consider whether to add it or not.xx❤️🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿😁👍

    • @Bluetooth55
      @Bluetooth55 2 роки тому +2

      @@crazyjane6570 I completely agree!!

    • @crazyjane6570
      @crazyjane6570 2 роки тому +5

      @Ted Kerz what a story! Now you’ve made me ❤️ my tattoo even MORE…… I’m not scared of death anyway but even if I was I’d still think I was meant to have this tattoo. Xx thanks I feel special now!!!!! 🙈🤣❤️

  • @starseedstudio17
    @starseedstudio17 Місяць тому +4

    I love how accepting these comments are. This means we are on the 4th Density path and I am grateful to witness the love! ❤ thanks for all who shares!

  • @kennethmacgregor-Gregorach
    @kennethmacgregor-Gregorach Рік тому +13

    I've always taken the Vegvisir to be a metaphorical/ spiritual way finder, more of a mental guide through bad weather (mental hardships) to finding your way back "home" again.

  • @shevchenko7cfc941
    @shevchenko7cfc941 Місяць тому +2

    I've been fascinated with icelandic history ever since I did a project on Leif Erikson and the Vinland Saga in probably 8th grade if I remember correctly. After years of rabbit holes I became quite obsessed with Hrafna-Flóki Vilgerðarson so much so I named my cat Flóki and so naturally when Vikings hit on TV he (along with his portrayal in the show) quickly became my favorite "character". I am also a nerd when it comes to birds and love how the 'real' Flóki brilliantly utilized the raven in his voyages. I'm going in for my 10th tattoo, and my artist does a lot of dark, sorta creepy imagery. So far I have 4 Ars Goetia demon- based tattoos (lesser key of Solomon) . I was thinking of getting a raven with a Vegvísir in my artist's style (he's done tons of ravens, and a few Vegvísirs) but the more I research the symbol I'm afraid it'll look a touch foolish to those that hyper analyze tattoos ;-;

  • @HowellDiesel
    @HowellDiesel 2 роки тому +14

    Thank you for clearing that up, I'm very appreciative of your knowledge and with you here I learn new things every video!

  • @elexandermitra7018
    @elexandermitra7018 Рік тому +2

    Dear Sir Arith Härger, You are 100 percent right! I really like your clear and honest public position! And I fully support you. in your scientific research! - Mitra

  • @JohannaKristinEllerup
    @JohannaKristinEllerup Рік тому +10

    Your channel is EXCELLENT and I love watching your episodes.
    When Christianity came to Iceland, Paganism and Runic messages went underground. Few slabs, tablets, boats, etc remain. There are numerous items that we know they had or used that have not been found, such as drums and true compasses. This is because, like with several Egyptian statues and mummies, these items were repurposed or destroyed when paganism was overturned in favor of Catholicism.
    However, the Icelandic, in particular, keep EXCELLENT records. The "Huld" or Occult document was to record the ancient and Viking age symbols and iconography, etc. Viking age runes do not 'appear out of nowhere', respectfully. The symbols of Vegvisir and Aegishjalmr were in use in the Viking age and re-emerged when it was safe to do so and were more than likely carved on the ships and weapons. The runes, The Elder and Younger Futhark, were also used interchangeably depending on the group.
    Never forget that, given the historical significance of the Vikings and the Old Norse/Icelandic societies at the time, VERY LITTLE archeological evidence survives to this day. Making assumptions that idols, icons and tools weren't used at the time, against later written documentation of it, simply because no pieces still exist is not accurate.
    Some quick points:
    "Beri Madur Stafi Pessa a ser villur madur ekki i hridum ne vondur vedri po okkunugur ser".
    If a man (person) carries this symbol ('pessa', pronounced thessa, is singular) on their person, they will not be lost/confused in storms/terrors or bad weather even if they are strangers/unfamiliar - is a direct translation of the text. Your interpretation is correct.
    Being very picky here lol, Old Norse, Icelandic are languages, among many, that are declined with noun/verb matching etc such as is found in the ancient latin. 'Stafir' is the plural form and 'staf and stafi' is the singular. Vegvisir (Way Showing or advising) is a galdrstaf. It's not a compass per se, but instead a protective symbol so that you travel in the 'correct direction'.
    Thanks

  • @Greentrianglegallery
    @Greentrianglegallery 2 роки тому +6

    Thankyou Arith….for making time before work for this

    • @Greentrianglegallery
      @Greentrianglegallery 2 роки тому +1

      Make sure you take some time to rest….I have not seen you seem so tired ever…..we appreciate your conversation and contributions and efforts ….pulling all of the peices together for us …… thanks again Arith ….so much

  • @rosewitchcraft8060
    @rosewitchcraft8060 2 роки тому +16

    This is so fascinating and well researched. Thank you so much.

  • @dseelenmagie8811
    @dseelenmagie8811 2 роки тому +15

    You just made a lot of people mad with this one. I know that wasn't your intention, and they won't care. What can really be said...sometimes the truth hurts and modern day "vikings" just have to cry and get over it. But still, it's cool looking and sometimes that is all people want. You're one of the good ones my friend!

  • @aki6487
    @aki6487 2 роки тому +25

    this is SO fascinating to hear about and learn, like. why isn't this common knowledge? (i have a few ideas why but still). thank you so much for your great work, i was happy to learn once again from you and your videos. have a nice day!!!

    • @revelationreflection
      @revelationreflection 2 роки тому

      Why would it be common knowledge? It's been culturally surpassed and obsolete.

    • @user-vt9yk4sl3m
      @user-vt9yk4sl3m 2 роки тому

      My personal theory is that the misuse and misinformation of the public about this symbol is linked to the mentality of the viking era. It was about building a legacy and reputation, not historic accuracy. Like, creating a good story that will be passed from person to person.
      I reckon that this transferred to popculure and how this time is portrait. It doenst matter that there are no historic connections between the viking age and Vegvisir. It fits and that's all that counts.

    • @cvi4057
      @cvi4057 2 роки тому

      Christianity and the attempted deletion of a people for the past 10000 years

    • @WildWoodsGirl65
      @WildWoodsGirl65 6 місяців тому

      Most people don't spend their time reading old manuscripts from the 1600s or 1800s, & though they might read the Eddas, myths, etc they're more likely to pick things up from movies with iffy researchers (& forget movies are fiction), word of mouth, pop culture, etc not scholars. Modern people are not used to memorizing facts word for word but do manage to spread inaccuracies that well, lol. It spreads before scholars see it bc they're hanging out with each other not people who are guessing, but those who research things thoroughly. Then finally they hear of it or see it, grin, shake their heads, & tell the rest of us. There are a lot of videos with people who investigate, read & dig farther explaining truths about misconceptions of all kinds online. The rest of us might want to start checking multiple scholarly sources not just some popular questionable source before making any expensive permanent decisions - tattoos, or buying something we might love less in a week if we hear it wasn't Viking & that was our interest in it, not as a spiritual symbol from whenever else it may be... They're all just saying, do a little research & here is some, know what you are deciding. And it's bc half of humanity really is paying almost no attention & that's my real reply to why this isn't common knowledge. People jump to assumptions & listen to others who do. So we can be grateful that we, & others, actually pay some attention in life, lol. Lots of people are fine with having no clue bc anything else feels like effort. So it's kind of hilarious when they think a symbol is from guys who were anything BUT lazy yet fits themselves too. Those who are not lazy, I'm not taking a dig at. But we do have memes online of Asian people with the word Soup tattooed on their arm as a joke for a reason. People do not look things up. But, they'll watch a video, lol, so....

  • @iainmelville9411
    @iainmelville9411 2 роки тому +9

    I am continuing to love your output. Great work, thank you so much.

  • @JimiHendrix998
    @JimiHendrix998 Рік тому +1

    I have always been warned by those who have a deep understanding of a subject, "Don't believe everything you read in newspapers, gift shops and tattoo parlours". I have all my life sought truth. Many thanks for your help in uncovering more history, information and fact. Great video.

  • @angelogabriel6862
    @angelogabriel6862 2 роки тому +2

    The value presented here, with the thorough research, is insurmountable.
    Thanks for taking the time to present your videos.
    Ps.: appreciate the Portuguese in the end of the videos haha
    Keep it up!

  • @rescueawen7430
    @rescueawen7430 Рік тому +3

    Gracias porque, de los buenos canales sobre historia nórdica, solo tus videos tienen subtítulos en español, a prueba de todo dispositivo! Se me hace tan cómodo y ameno ver y escuchar tus muy interesantes charlas en pantalla grande. 👏👏👏👏

  • @CarpeNoctemArts
    @CarpeNoctemArts 3 місяці тому

    Finally someone who says that 🙌🏼👏🏻 thanks Arith. Thank you also for the HULD link, that manuscript is incredible, the charts are fascinating to study! Thank you so much.

  • @becobuioco
    @becobuioco 2 роки тому +3

    Patagonian Tribes of both seas have similar symbols, highly compelling, great video like always, you are an endless source of clarifying knowledge my friend, keep it coming!

  • @familiabranquinhobranquinh9503
    @familiabranquinhobranquinh9503 2 роки тому +2

    For this year the themes promise I can see! Knowing in depth is clearly super interesting. Thank you Mr Arith!

  • @teresafigueiredo
    @teresafigueiredo 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent job! Good continuation!

  • @Duececoupe
    @Duececoupe 2 роки тому +1

    I keep posting links to your video, wherever I see it's necessary....keep up with your phenomenal work my friend! 🤜🏻🤛🏻🍻

  • @Sk1tz092
    @Sk1tz092 2 роки тому +10

    Vegvisír in Dutch translates to Wegwijzer, literal translation is Way Pointer. What is nice about this is that they also sound very much a like in pronunciation.

    • @mrledhead68
      @mrledhead68 2 роки тому

      1900's symbols pointing to what?
      Just food for thought...

    • @riccardodececco4404
      @riccardodececco4404 Рік тому +1

      as even in High-German: Wegweiser.... easy to understand

    • @christopherstein2024
      @christopherstein2024 Рік тому

      Yes the literal translation mentioned is completely wrong.

    • @willempasterkamp862
      @willempasterkamp862 Рік тому

      @@christopherstein2024 it's a path-finder or 'scout' , ydk how to use

    • @Volundur9567
      @Volundur9567 Рік тому

      Wegweiser auf deutsch.

  • @MightyMouse1222
    @MightyMouse1222 Рік тому +6

    No matter it's origin, it's guided me through a very a questionable childhood and upbringing to a place of success; happiness; prosperity; solidity.

    • @MightyMouse1222
      @MightyMouse1222 Рік тому +1

      My necklace is just the vegvisir with a crescent moon.....

  • @ranamcmahon7653
    @ranamcmahon7653 2 роки тому +2

    I'm learning so much from you. Thank you for sharing this. Keep growing that hair!!! It's beautiful. 🙋

  • @zoomin9397
    @zoomin9397 2 роки тому +22

    I will soon get a vegvisir tattoo and I very well know the historical background behind it thanks to people like arith härger who tells the truth. I do not care at all that the symbol wasn’t used during the viking age or by pagans, I simply like the meaning of the symbol of being a compass that is supposed to guide you and I interpret it as guiding you through life, even in the darkest of moments. I will have elder futhark surrounding it and it will symbolize how much heilung’s music mean to me personally. I also want to add there that I am aware of when elder futhark was used as a form of writing.
    I believe in self interpretation of these things but the truth about certain stuff is always important and is not to be forgotten.

    • @zach6243
      @zach6243 Рік тому +2

      I have it on my hand and it's exactly why I got it. I didn't even have it when I saw the historians video basically bashing people who do have it. It's a compass to guide me through life after my sobriety. Also because of pop culture the only people who would ever question or make fun of it are guys like this lol

    • @WildWoodsGirl65
      @WildWoodsGirl65 6 місяців тому +1

      He's only making fun of writers spreading misinformation on its origins & so he tells its real meaning, such as how you're using it. At the end he emphasizes that, & that he has absolutely no problem with that, accurate, use & it's just that intentions matter. It wasn't Viking, but it is Icelandic & he refers to the Icelandic Poetic Edda in the Ægishjálmr video that goes with this. As people do use it he just wants to save folks from choosing it solely bc it is Viking since it's much later, or from getting called out by others who do know, etc. He was emphatic about having no problem with it's use though. Congratulations on your sobriety. It's a good path to be on! I wouldn't trade it! ~3/5/00 🤙

  • @Gaming_Biker
    @Gaming_Biker 2 роки тому +19

    I have Vegvisir tattooed on my right hand (not including any Elder Futhark). To me, it symbolizes not just that you can find your way in a physical sense, but also in a spiritual one. As I found that Christianity did not work for me, I've essentially lost my blood family due to their narcissistic manipulative behaviors, & as a USMC Veteran that only had my current wife as a support structure when leaving the USMC, NT Paganism, Celtic Paganism (what's known of course), & my Harley have been instrumental in helping me find my new path. Vegvisir is a visible representation of that struggle & serves as a reminder that I will always see.

  • @lukelauzon39
    @lukelauzon39 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much for the insight Arith. I really appreciate learning from you.

  • @mr.monster91666
    @mr.monster91666 2 роки тому +3

    I have the I have this as a vinyl sticker on my SUV but it's good to know more information about the symbol and that it's not very old

  • @nicholeaddair5881
    @nicholeaddair5881 2 роки тому +12

    As a practicing nordic pagan I have this as a tattoo, I love it and it’s meaning despite it not being from the Viking age it is still very much nordic.

    • @discutiibiblice
      @discutiibiblice 2 роки тому

      you cannot simply be Nordic pagan since they don't exist and very probably never existed as we know it
      you cannot simply "practicing" it since it's derived from agriculture and I bet you don't work
      you have the tattooed the incomplete sigil
      it is not Nordic, rather it is Middle-Eastern occultism brought in Europe by the jewish people

    • @xxx7917
      @xxx7917 2 роки тому +6

      It's not a pagan symbol .
      Might as well get a Star of David

    • @Cotif11
      @Cotif11 2 роки тому

      Paganism isn't real, it's a creation of 19th century European occultism and Pagan is a vague term applied to non-Christians in Europe after the Classical era. You should investigate the history of your practice deeper

    • @hartwarg3051
      @hartwarg3051 2 роки тому

      @@xxx7917 Bruh I've read modern gay vikings say that they didn't care about sexuality back then. Turns out Argr is a complement!

    • @theguyof360
      @theguyof360 2 роки тому +1

      @@xxx7917 really? how?

  • @SirTonelo
    @SirTonelo 2 роки тому +3

    Muito obrigado pelo excelente video!

  • @michellezenner
    @michellezenner 2 роки тому +4

    It is said that Pythagoras had his stude-nts sworn to secrecy. It is also said that on Pythagoras death bed he asked to have a "symbol" placed outside the doorway to inform others of his presence. I can't help but think that at some point in time, symbology-languages became lost. I can cite several ancient BC texts-symbology that cannot be interpreted but must've been known at one time. We dont know all languages. We do know the nature of man, however, greed, power, war, etc. which includes the persecution of persons having different beliefs. Thank you. I hope we find out one day what was intended for some of the lost languages.

    • @Crabbadabba
      @Crabbadabba 2 роки тому

      Interesting. I like to think that words and symbols coalesced due to there being better readability and modularity with alphabets as opposed to symbols. Words can be symbolic, so it begs the question. So long as the knowledge of definition of the original symbol was never documented or orally passed on, we will never know what the original symbol was used for, unless it can be gleaned based on context clues.

  • @Tkazox
    @Tkazox 2 роки тому

    Just heard about this first here, super dope to see the dedication, love the videos 🙌🏽

  • @_lex_ndre
    @_lex_ndre 10 місяців тому

    that line in Portuguese at the very end of the video really got me by surprise. thanks for sharing!

  • @soSo-ml8dv
    @soSo-ml8dv 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you very much for this video.

  • @SillySpudyRocking
    @SillySpudyRocking Рік тому +4

    While I must admit I did only find out about the true origin of the symbol after buying a pendant with the symbol. It was disappointing but nothing changed for me really. I bought it for a purpose and the idea and although the truth of it is different the pendant still fulfils its purpose to me and the idea is still worthy.

    • @Volundur9567
      @Volundur9567 Рік тому +2

      I include the origin on my items featuring Galdrastafir. It's very important to be honest about our history and disclose that when we sell something with such symbols.

  • @charlestea3642
    @charlestea3642 Рік тому +3

    I wear this silver pendant as a gift from my family, which simply means, safe travels home.

  • @JK-ex6rn
    @JK-ex6rn 2 роки тому +3

    😊👍
    Thanke you for this info.

  • @HikarusVibrator
    @HikarusVibrator 2 роки тому +5

    I've literally told this same nonsense to people who have asked. Thank you

  • @stewartthomas2642
    @stewartthomas2642 2 роки тому +1

    Love your stuff kick on love it

  • @Razorhaloforever
    @Razorhaloforever 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for this. I researched it before getting the tattoo and it still called to me. ❤

  • @Godwinsson77
    @Godwinsson77 2 роки тому +1

    You are 100% correct and thanks for presenting this.

  • @vikrantvijit1436
    @vikrantvijit1436 2 роки тому

    Thanks for caring to share deep and wide knowledge about Viking high Aesthetics Arts, Cultural Crafts and Technical Talents for Shipping, Sailing and Symbolic Magical Runes decoding futures, dominating Present and dealing dead past with respect.

  • @anonymousanonymous2481
    @anonymousanonymous2481 2 роки тому +1

    Thank You For Studying Our Faters! God Bless You!

  • @riot.9
    @riot.9 2 роки тому +12

    Could this symbol be also used in non-literal sense - to find a way not n a real storm, but in a "storm" of life, for examaple? I guess it could be..

    • @megantrish8450
      @megantrish8450 2 роки тому +3

      That is how I see it.

    • @brodenmcdougall2698
      @brodenmcdougall2698 2 роки тому +2

      I reckon the interpretation is subjective. I personally have a necklace not dissimilar to the ones this gentleman shows. even with letters of elder futhark around it. When anyone asks what it stands for I simply tell them "it's so I don't lose my way." as it's still within the realm of what the symbol represents. but for me it has a more personal, and figurative meaning. As for the futhark. well I'll admit I didn't know the Vegvisir was not of the viking age whent I bought it. That said, I am fascinated by that age and culture. and so wearing their alphabet is a good way of showing it. Despite the fact the two have no correlation, putting them on one necklace does accurately showcase something for me.

    • @riot.9
      @riot.9 2 роки тому

      @@brodenmcdougall2698 "so I don't lose my way" also could sound pretty for Thelemite.

  • @C.Noble13
    @C.Noble13 2 роки тому +3

    You're amazing.
    Thank you.
    Have you gone over Valkyries symbols yet?
    Happy Wodans Day.

  • @michaelyount128
    @michaelyount128 11 місяців тому

    Just watched your video and I am impressed ... made me a subscriber immediately... what is the name of that book you hold up !!! Please and ty

  • @yannylaurel5421
    @yannylaurel5421 10 місяців тому

    @ArithHarger Hey I have a question I got both the Ægishjálmer and Vigvisr tattooed on Mt chest my cousin drew them up and that night I went drinking next morning I had these tattoos on the left pec I'm open minded to these things and there meanings So put it that way would it be dangerous to have these on me

  • @filo5930
    @filo5930 2 роки тому

    Amazing ! I have a vegvisir and love the esoteric meaning, as a traveler i like to use it in that way, love ur Channel and all real history

  • @Akireart
    @Akireart Рік тому

    Thanks for this interesting video ! I'm Italian , from Italian father and Portuguese mother , in the last winter I decided to bought this simbol as necklace, I don't know why but I was attracted by the simbology, then when I read the meaning I was even more determined to buy it.... who knows maybe some past life ✨

  • @CarpeNoctemArts
    @CarpeNoctemArts 3 місяці тому

    About the sorcerer screed, we find it at very expensive values on amazon and Icelandic sites but if you search a while you can find a pdf version of it friends. For free.

  • @mornemarais4198
    @mornemarais4198 2 роки тому +2

    wow inspiring thank you brother i apreciate your aprouch

  • @ivornelsson2238
    @ivornelsson2238 Рік тому

    Hello Arith,
    In my opnion the first shown image at 5:19 upper Vevisir symbol represent the seasonal changes on the Earth and its celestial connections in the Solar System and the Milky Way galaxy. In this sence it´s a cosmological symbol in my opinion.
    What dy you say to this?

  • @12stepsbeyondtheeventhorizon
    @12stepsbeyondtheeventhorizon 2 роки тому +4

    Very interesting video. I am considering tattooing a vegvisir on myself, and found all the information you share here really helpful. There does seem to be quite a lot of misinformation on the internet about this symbol, and most people will associate it with the vikings. I have one question though - how do we know that the symbol was created more than 500 years after the viking age ended? Could it be possible that it was created earlier but evaded us for so long and we found it much later? Do you suppose it is in fact possible that it's connected to the vikings in some way? Or do we have concrete evidence that the symbol was created in 1860 (or thereabout)?

    • @mrledhead68
      @mrledhead68 2 роки тому +2

      THINK BEFORE INK!
      You went from Viking Compass to 1900's Satanic Symbol. Sleep Well!

    • @neruneri
      @neruneri 2 роки тому +2

      Yes, the entire practice of making those staves did not exist at the time, nor did early forms of it exist at the time. The first time anything even resembling it shows up, is during the 1860s. Nothing similar exists before then. That's the key. None of the components of it, nor the concept itself, are similar to any concepts or symbols from the "viking age" in the slightest. What it is similar to, however, are various form of post-medieval symbols found in grimoires throughout Christian Europe.
      The thing to keep in mind is that not only is the practice of magic staves *not* a practice we see reflected or mentioned in archeological record, the actual symbols in Vegvisir is fundamentally incompatible with the actual magic we know they practiced. If it was made by them, it would not look like it does.

    • @MrSwitchblade327
      @MrSwitchblade327 Рік тому

      @@neruneri not true

    • @Smoug
      @Smoug Рік тому

      ​@neruneri there are definitely similar staves from way before

  • @caseythiessen1646
    @caseythiessen1646 2 роки тому +2

    Hey Arith question. In this video you mention the horizontal stave is part of the Vegvisir as a whole. So what then would the significance of the double line separation between the main symbol and the horizontal stave which also includes its own designated number of XXIX while the main symbol is designated noXXVII. Would this not indicate that they are in fact separate symbols entirely that just occupy the same page in the Huld manuscript? Was just a thought I had while looking at it more closely.

  • @Revenant7n
    @Revenant7n 2 роки тому +5

    I appreciate this video. All others I've seen will identify that the Vegvisir is first seen in the Huld Manuscript (1860), but I've never been shown the striking similarity to the 14th or 15th century symbols found in the Key of Solomon. That firmly places the origin with Jewish / Arab magicians and wipes out any possibility that they have viking age origin.

  • @AmyChappell
    @AmyChappell 2 роки тому

    Can you expand on the bottom of the Stav please. I'd like to know more about why it's in a single line and part of the one above it.

  • @gunkwretch3697
    @gunkwretch3697 2 роки тому +2

    thanks Arith, for separating history from modern interpretations... I remember you video on the similarities between the helm of Awe and African symbols.. but I have also found a Tantric Yantra which looks much like the Helm of Awe... I found no real explanation, but it appears to use Shiva's Trident/Khatvenga in the 8 directions.. The symbol at the bottom spoke of Vegvisir appears like an Angelic sigil from Christian Ceremonial magick

  • @theadministers3533
    @theadministers3533 2 роки тому +2

    How long do you leave UR Yule tree decorated and standing?

    • @ArithHärger
      @ArithHärger  2 роки тому +4

      All the January videos were recorded a month ago, that's why the tree is there lol.

    • @theadministers3533
      @theadministers3533 2 роки тому

      @@ArithHärger by the way; UR work is fabulous. Listening to you helps me see where enunciation, accents, and speech patterns effectively cause minor miscommunications.
      Dialects cause some dereliction.
      Jews, Jinns, Jims, Gematria.
      I live in the middle of Indian Territory. The Tribes Surround Me.
      I AM a Modern Day Viking! It is beakcuz ov Odin’s Ravens that Oui have Crow and Kaw Tribes.
      Chi is the cross and Gods Mark X
      Rho: is the Greek P, and the P is Joy!
      Kee: the Egyptian Anhk ~ Key of Life.
      YaQui- Yahweh’s Quintessential Eternal Energy.
      Potowatomi references Ptahotep!
      Wat: monastery
      Om: sacred Hindu sound of creation!
      i: the minds Eye, single i, 3rd eye !!!
      Si, the world will be destroyed by fire; the flame of the transformed mind will vanquish all evil.

  • @dasitmane7590
    @dasitmane7590 2 роки тому

    Nice sweater, do you remember where you got it from or what the style is called?

  • @rogeriofleming
    @rogeriofleming 2 роки тому

    I got so scared when I hear you saying ''Obrigado por hoje", didn't know you can speak portuguese, greetings from brazil to you ! 😄

  • @surtulf
    @surtulf 2 роки тому +3

    A thing many people should consider is that even though it isnt a "viking" symbol it is still a norse symbol rooted in norse ideas. Just because the viking age stopped it doesnt mean norse culture took a halt or vanished. Vegvisir is a neo-norse symbol with roots in other cultures, which perfectly follows the essence of norse culture. People went viking not only to pillage or trade, but to explore, get inspired, collect knowledge and sometimes adapt or assimilate that which they experienced/learned. A mindset that the author of Huld likely shared.
    We arent decendants of a godfearing culture, so being inspired by the mysticism of other cultures and even making it your own is not a sin or crime against any divinity. Our beloved Tor is the protector of mankind, not norsekind, so all of us here in midgard may have ideas worth adapting if you actually believe in the spiritual side of things. And given the concept of the Norns, the symbol popping up in the late 1800's may be fate. Reinvigorating the old ways with new symbolism and mysticism.
    Dont fall into the narrowminded abyss like those of the crooked cross.

    • @dixievixen3631
      @dixievixen3631 2 роки тому

      Excellent defense of a symbol used and recognized by ancient Nordic pirates...

    • @ColoradoStreaming
      @ColoradoStreaming 2 роки тому +1

      I got a vegvísir patch to put on my hiking backpack because it has a cool meaning and the fact "vegvísir" is similar to 'Signpost' in German which is my ancestry. People like to look at small slivers of history and glorify it instead of looking at the continuing thread of the story of civilizations. Sure it was not mentioned until 1860 but it is still history and the origins may be older but lost to antiquity.

    • @surtulf
      @surtulf 2 роки тому

      @@ColoradoStreaming Exactly. Heck, I wouldnt be surprised if in the future, artist and bands of our age that sing both about the old and adapt new views on norse culture would be considered skalds and their material norse poetry. Since in reality it is exactly that, which in itself also means we still come up with new symbols that identify our heritage and roots. Things will just keep evolving.
      And I think it is at the core of the norse mindset to look at things with an open mind, curiosity, a will to learn and adopt/assimilate or even adapt. Which makes the vegvisir a "modern" norse symbol due to how distant designs of mysticism have been adopted or assimilated in a quest of exploring through the mind.

  • @lauragrace3245
    @lauragrace3245 2 роки тому

    Thankful for this knowledge 👍

  • @enginesktm8532
    @enginesktm8532 8 місяців тому

    What does the symbol below mean? The part at the bottom?

  • @karkir-joharkarntkristkark9507
    @karkir-joharkarntkristkark9507 2 роки тому

    The diagram to the right on the video's thumbnail is sooo cool. It's like the stars on each side of the eight pointed star depicts the nodes on a 3d sphere. It's as if the perspective morphs between a 2d diagram and a 3d spherical web globe.

  • @jkl5712
    @jkl5712 4 місяці тому +1

    I have no issue with anyone getting a vegvisr etc as a tattoo. That's their prerogative. My problem as it being passed off as an authentic Viking symbol or pre Christian Norse symbol. When it has nothing to do with Norse Paganism. Especially on "Viking" Norse and Germanic Pagan attire, jewelry, etc. Can't hardly find any Norse or Anglo Saxon attire, decor or jewelry without it these days. Same goes for the Mislabeled "Valknut".

  • @idocrazzyshit5025
    @idocrazzyshit5025 Рік тому

    Excuse my lack of knowledge. Which futhark is relevant to the original time of the vegvisir?

  • @nurnu349
    @nurnu349 2 роки тому

    Great video 😊👍

  • @MrAustinjeff
    @MrAustinjeff 2 роки тому +1

    Interesting and known by me but not very widely known. The relation of this symbol and those who follow the Norse path still makes sense to me. Especially for those that do ”workings” or magic probably a trigger point (as you always see) for those that stick to only symbols and workings from the Viking age and anything before it. There are the scholars and the doers. I am kind of in the middle.

  • @Ti4gosan
    @Ti4gosan 2 роки тому

    Obrigado por hoje 👏🇵🇹

  • @nev357
    @nev357 Рік тому +1

    I have a large tatto covering my arm, shoulder and chest that includes vegvisir, viking ship and mjolnir. Regardless if it is not historically correct, its my acknowledgement of Norse beliefs and way of life.

  • @marketlg24
    @marketlg24 2 роки тому

    Just found this Chanel…I love Nordic mythology and Vikings culture…I’m trying to learn. I don’t even know what to read, and if it’s true

  • @daniellemcnamara7910
    @daniellemcnamara7910 2 роки тому +1

    I actually just got this tattooed not long ago on my back and this video is really interesting, though I was taught by my father, who was an Irish Traveller that was known as a "pathfinder" and it was used to help guide/protect people who lost their way physically and emotionally/mentally 🤷🏼‍♀️ I'll be honest I don't know if that is actually true at all right enough 🤷🏼‍♀️

  • @nobody-vp1dr
    @nobody-vp1dr 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for the leason.

  • @travisbremer6645
    @travisbremer6645 2 роки тому

    Thank you I learned something today

  • @keithdrummond1003
    @keithdrummond1003 2 роки тому

    Enlightening.
    Thanks.

  • @marcusfridh8489
    @marcusfridh8489 2 роки тому +1

    there wasnt magnetic compasses in scandinavia in the vikingage, but there was the solar compasses

  • @gator83261
    @gator83261 Рік тому

    Good video.

  • @richarddangleson9460
    @richarddangleson9460 2 роки тому

    You, yourself in your video titled "Icelandic Magical Staves #2" you refer to Vegvísir with only the top half of it and not the bottom horizontal portion.

  • @kenocastro3135
    @kenocastro3135 Рік тому

    the beauty about magick sigils is that gods do marry each other (and so are their religion). the symbols change over time, and what matters is the collective unconscious that directs the meaning of the image. then, the energy can be used as it was intended. though I would still consecrate the symbols with solomonic chant

  • @revelationreflection
    @revelationreflection 2 роки тому

    Very interesting. My friend got like 5 different of these galdastaffir (or however you spell it), including this one, but without the bottom, horizontal element. Gonna see if he thinks it's from viking age as well. Then show this video.

  • @whynottalklikeapirat
    @whynottalklikeapirat 7 місяців тому

    Moral offense on behalf of ancient symbols - appreciate the passion 😄👍.

  • @sevenis9712
    @sevenis9712 2 роки тому

    I hope you have gotten some rest since this post!😘

  • @Thundercross1981
    @Thundercross1981 3 місяці тому

    Just because it's not contemporary with the height of the Northmen, doesn't mean it isn't linked to the mythology of the vikings. The muses that spoke to the skálds didn't dissappear after the conversation of Northern Europe to Christianity. The 8 staves could relate to 8 of the named realms, not including Midgard . The stave that is identical to the Aesighir stave indicates Asgard and the others would be the others

  • @Laderfear
    @Laderfear Рік тому

    You are an archeologist. Do you find stone carvings of deities?

  • @firkinfright5168
    @firkinfright5168 Рік тому

    You say that it isn't a compass while the describing text does match up with what the word compass means. Eg an instrument for finding direction.

  • @MrSwitchblade327
    @MrSwitchblade327 Рік тому +1

    There is two types of navigation my friend. Earthly and spiritually

  • @magicmice75_369
    @magicmice75_369 2 роки тому

    How about the founds in Europe where they have found this mark on things what were in Vikings ships .. something not right, But yes key of solomon is very similar to it. So I didn't understand, what this Iceland symbol means? without the horisontal mark

    • @Volundur9567
      @Volundur9567 Рік тому

      Weren't there Allah rings at some 9th Century sites? Trading with Arabs/Semitic folk. Unless it's misinterpreted findings.

  • @kaustavrakshit4785
    @kaustavrakshit4785 2 роки тому +2

    the video doesn't tell what's the real meaning of vegvisir... it only tells what it's not, and just keeps on repeating for 20 mins that it's origins are not viking ... I get it - its not viking and it's not a magical rune... but what IS it ...

  • @markfergerson2145
    @markfergerson2145 2 роки тому +1

    I had idly noticed the similarity between the vegvisir and ancient Jewish mystical symbology a long time ago but never delved into the history of the symbolism of esotericism since I don't believe in magic. It's simultaneously mildly amusing to know that some of the people I knew who did believe were "doing it wrong" as they say on the Internet these days, and disappointing to realize once again that people with a sincere interest can be so easily misled.

    • @Volundur9567
      @Volundur9567 Рік тому

      Even in Hoodoo, sometimes the Seals of Solomon and other Jewish/Kabbalah symbols get used for workings. Satanists use them as well.

  • @infini1970
    @infini1970 2 роки тому

    I actually look at your video's to clarify these common web sites selling Viking jewelry and symbols. It's really unfortunate they claim to be a site that is authentic but it's really nothing to do with the culture they are selling. Glad I never got any tattoo's of it haha.

  • @awolpeace1781
    @awolpeace1781 9 місяців тому

    Almost like the wrong symbols were placed at a certain time for ulterior motives, unbeknownst to those who learned about them?

  • @alchemistsanonymous6558
    @alchemistsanonymous6558 2 роки тому

    I love the explanations of those who haven't really studied this stuff, just so incredibly wrong. But you did a fairly good job nonetheless

  • @fabiosombra5483
    @fabiosombra5483 2 роки тому

    Poxa sei que vc não deve falar português assim como eu não falo inglês, mas quanto mais estudo " cultura nórdica " mais percebo que não a nada de fato nórdico concreto, como se fosse uma cultura que se perdeu totalmente, se alguém poder me ajudar sobre isso eu agradeço, a minha pergunta é " existe algo de fato nórdico?"

  • @ben2741
    @ben2741 2 роки тому

    Does this symbol know Da Wei?

  • @originhealing
    @originhealing 6 місяців тому

    is it possible that the symbol was derived from the i ching representation

    • @ellen4956
      @ellen4956 4 місяці тому

      He said it's originally from a Jewish book.

    • @originhealing
      @originhealing 4 місяці тому

      @@ellen4956 yes but Jewish magic and Kabbalah in europe was also influenced by others like greek and egyptian magic traditions. It wasn't created in a vacuum. So just wondering if there is any connection because the some drawings of the i ching seem similar with the directions, seasons and elements.

  • @awolpeace1781
    @awolpeace1781 9 місяців тому

    I'm dope for getting my alder tattoo done horizontally in accordance with the Celtic language 😊

  • @lucianaferreira9061
    @lucianaferreira9061 2 роки тому

    Obrigado!

  • @Bowhunterohio
    @Bowhunterohio 2 роки тому

    You are a great scholar. I love watching your videos. I always walk away from these videos with 10x more knowledge. Thank you so much for sharing your expertise.

  • @rickypen
    @rickypen Рік тому

    Edit: Nevermind: finished the video. I have been married to a Norwegian woman, with deep deep roots in the mythology and lore, even though I am a brown person. My father married an Icelandic woman after he and my mom divorced when I was around 8 (they are in Reykjavik as I am writing this actually lol) so I did get stories and her family history, and lot of things that her mother and grandmother told to her (part of what made me able to connect with my wife when we met). ANYWAY said all that to say this: I have for a LONG while debated getting vegvisir tatood on my ring finger. I haven't ever worn a wedding ring even though we are going on 15 yrs of marriage. We were both army, and worked medical so wedding rings weren't really our thing. But I always liked the idea of having it on my finger, so that I would always find my way home to her. Is this a bad idea given the meaning?

  • @lisetteolsson2441
    @lisetteolsson2441 29 днів тому