@DistantEve Lady, I suggest you to learn more about characters in this story, Achilles, we're agree or not, is the best moral from all Greek elites, even when compared to Odysseus
@@mksunwukong16 pretty quick. To be fair achilles is one of the strongest fighters in that time. Hector in is state of mind could go toe to toe with achilles but eventually die the same as he in the movie.
2:49 The details. Achiles is positioned in a way that looks athletic like the Greek statues, but at the same time he can see everyone from his peripheral vision. He does not look straight at her because he would lose sight of some of the people surrounding him. It shows what a perfect warrior Achiles is. Everything goes on full instinct and intuition.
The best part is the last. Agamemnon knows Achilles is blessed by the Gods. He knows Achilles isn't... 'normal'... His prediction: "before my time is done I will look upon your corpse" is therefore absolutely terrifying because of his connection with the Gods - it could be foresight.......
@@Seek1878 In this movie I don't think he's actually a demigod. In the actual story/poem that this is based off of I think he's supposed to be a demigod.
@@AdeptKing they don't really ever pick what Achilles is in this movie tbh..You can never really tell if he's invincible or not..Only that he was struck in the chest kinda by Hector and then killed in the very spot where he was not dipped in years before hand.. Then you have the arrows shooting him in the chest and one can wish that they only hurt him but did not do the final blow..ahahhh...
@@Seek1878 no his mom dip him in a special river that stop him from taking damages but he was a amazing warrior without that so you can see why he so good no he wasn’t a god or demigod just special water that his mom did to him as a baby but forget to do his ankle and that where he gets his name
Something about fulfilling a job description. It's not always about doing the smart thing, some times it just about doing what your told. On the other hand, how smart is a king who makes a enemy of his best warrior. He risked losing all those men in the fight and having to execute Achilles for drawing a sword in his presence.
HolyHank - One more example of how Agamemnon could have been a better king. It's best keep (all) your soldiers focused on the common enemy. A good leader knows it's far better to be respected than hated.
@@royrowland4040 In the actual source text, Achilles roasts the shit out of Agamemnon even harder. For like 1-3 pages depending on the translation and edition, it is absolutely brutal
nope, Achilles was invulnerable in all of his body except for his heel because, when his mother Thetis dipped him in the river Styx as an infant, she held him by one of his heels. Alluding to these legends, the term "Achilles heel" has come to mean a point of weakness, especially in someone or something with an otherwise strong constitution.
I like how the movie did the heel. Achillies was shot full of arrows and took all but the one in the heel out before he died. thus giving rise to the legend he was killed with an arrow to the heel because it was the only one visable to the soldiers who saw his body.
Achiles always was my favourite hero of our history... But for those who dont know Agamemnon was a great King and a skillfull warior at his prime not as mighty Achiles but he was not like that oldman in the movie
Well, he would have been around 40 when the Trojan War started. So it makes sense he wasn’t charging in with his army. And that’s if we’re going based on Helens age of around 7-10 when she marries Menelaus who was 25 at the oldest, and Agamemnon who is like 3 years younger. It makes sense for him to be old since most Ancient Greek Soldiers were around 15-23 in age. Our perception of old has changed obviously. But Agamemnon being 32-40 during the Trojan War and not leading them into battle makes sense. Priam was old as well
@@m.c.martin No, he wouldn't have been. They never establish either Agamemnon's or Achilles's ages in the Iliad. Agamemnon is only a few years older than Achilles and Menelaus. The truly "old" guys were Odysseus (said by Nestor's son, Antilochus to be of a an "older generation" so maybe around 40 years old, Idomeneus who was said to be "greying" so maybe around 50, and Nestor was said to be the oldest but still capable of fighting so around 60 at the oldest? And Agamemnon was indeed said to fight. And fight incredibly well. He was one of the best warriors there. He was compared to three gods I beauty and strength and even King Priam admires him from the walls.
Yes, you're partially right except Agamemnon was indeed almost on Achilles' level. He was compared to three gods in beauty and strength and routed the Trojans to their walls without divine aid. He was a beast.
@@leonardobraynen1524 Mostly yes. But it was Cassandra who he brought back, not Briseis. And in the Odyssey, he dies in a feast and his men butchered (like the Red Wedding in Game of Thrones which is probably where they got it from).
The actor who plays Agamemnon does a great job! The whole scene is a masterpiece. The characters don't like each other but try to keep calm. Listen to the tones of voices at the beginning of the dialogue. Much suspense which escalates at the hand. Fantastic scene.
Fight club, seven, 12 monkeys, Spy Game, Inglourious Basterds, Moneyball, Killing Them Softly and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood are all fantastic films that he was in. The two you listed are excellent as well.
Well yeah you understand why in the next scene they have together after Achilles saves her from being raped and brings her back to his tent. Where she says she thought he was a dumb brute. She comes to find out that he is a man of compassion and wisdom and not just some blind soldier like the rest.
To the people here who are also angry at Agamemnon. When he was returned home, he would be slaughtered by his wife and her lover for supposedly sacrificing his daughter.
This right here is why I love Warner Bros. The Best out there in terms of multi-diverse films. HBO Max has quality content, once I got it I canceled all other streaming apps.
then you're missing the point. Guards are nothing but soldiers. The fun would be Achilles punishing Agamemnon while the guards are set free to their families.
In the actual book, Achilles stabbed Agamemnon's scepter into his stomach and made him cry. That's how badass Achilles was, that he could do that to a king.
history remembers the trojan war well and the heroes who fought in it. there is a big bang episode in year 1 where sheldon is advising penny whether or not to date leonard (shroedingers cat episode) and sheldon mentions helen of troy, menalaous and agememnon. achilles, hector and paris probably remembered the most, especially achilles.
If Agamemnon wasn't a maniacal narcissistic tyrant sociopath... and he ruled with stern but fair authority and maybe even a little bit of empathy... would Achilles respect him? Or does he only respect warriors?
Fun Fact: The first king to pay homage to Agamemnon in this scene is Triopas, played by Julian Glover, who was the main villain (Walter Donovan) in INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE.
🇬🇷 Achilles Demigod Hero was the son of Peleus, a Greek king and Achilles was the son of the Thetis, a Goddess, and Peleus, the Greek king and King of the Myrmidons. 🇬🇷
Achilles calls the king a ,,sack of wine” and later threatens him. This is the first time that Agamemnon realises that this is no longer a subtle battle of power between the two of them and all the tension and hatred is about to unfold, so he has to take measures. The warrior has never openly challenged his authority to that moment. You can see the shock on Agamemnon’s face. He knew that Achilles wasn’t his biggest fan, but did not expect him to act in such manner. On the flip side the king finally has an excuse to remove Achilles since he insulted him in front of the soldiers.
2:45 The penalties in hell are so very severe, that you should endeavour to find someone who will always bring out the best in you and never the worst in you, and for your own safety and wellbeing rather than their own selfish concerns, because the opposite of that will only condemn you both. In that respect, the *critically important* thing to note is that this moment represents the *extreme opposite* in Principle to the adulterous relationship between Helen and Paris which led to the Trojan War and the death and destruction of many. This is an important lesson for every man to learn because if you are fighting *over* a woman you are firmly in the grip of Satan/Mara, as opposed to the *righteous defence* of a woman which is worthwhile. So it’s worth finding a woman who is righteously guided and strives to *prevent* conflict between men to the maximum extent possible. Even if they are a born into the hereditary warrior class/tradition and train in the martial arts, as with the men they should only apply their skills as a *last resort* in the defence of righteous ideals. Although, I don’t think any woman is by *nature* so manipulative as to derive their self worth from men fighting over them, and I don’t think Helen was either because her Love for Paris appears to have been genuine, though she doesn’t compare to Briseis in Virtue. But I do think that women who have suffered at the hands of the corrupt and become deprived of self-worth to the extreme risk becoming corrupted by the sensual realm to the point of deriving satisfaction thus. They really do need *spiritual help* because that is not the pathway to heaven on earth or heaven subsequent.
"YOU SACK OF WINE" best B.C. insult ever.
came here for that line
Really, I mean it's the most WTF insult ever. I guess it's modern equivalent would be "You six-pack of Schlitz!"
😆 🤣 😂
@@rh142000 wew, that's not good for career
🤣😂🤣
"History remembers Kings! Not soldiers!"
Yeah, Achilles is the only reason why we know your name
Shall We Shaggy Now? Fact
Wasn't Achilles a king in his own land?
@@amaxwiththefacts yes he is either king or next in line of the myrmidons can't remember if his father was still alive.
Fallen Angel0810 - Achilles indeed was next in line. His father, Peleus, being king of Phthia.
Well they are both written about in the Iliad. But Achilles is probably better known by the general public due to the Achilles Heel
She saved all the men in that tent. They were about to be changed into corpses by Achilles.
yes and Achilles would been laughing hard too
@Edmond&Mercedes obviously, the best killer the world had and she fall in love with him, so she likes killers :)
Facts!
@DistantEve Lady, I suggest you to learn more about characters in this story, Achilles, we're agree or not, is the best moral from all Greek elites, even when compared to Odysseus
@@BullyMaguirejr Bully Maguire is irrelevant to this.
"Even now i could carve through the 5 of you like carving a cake"
Yeah, but there's 7 of us.
Barristan vs Achilles who would win
@@SunDogGod prime vs prime it hard to say cuz barristan have full armor but achilles dont have but can move faster tho
There's also Jaime Lannister and Arthur Dayne to consider besides Barristan
@@balu.92 “and it is an even fight"
I honestly believe Achilles could've killed everyone in that tent lol
Could've, would've, and should've
I rest my case
Achilleus was a demigod and was the greatest hero of that age and would have slain everybody in that tent and outside that tent.
He would've killed everyone except the lady.
@@kennylindsay268 how fast do u think he would have done it
@@mksunwukong16 pretty quick. To be fair achilles is one of the strongest fighters in that time. Hector in is state of mind could go toe to toe with achilles but eventually die the same as he in the movie.
2:49
The details.
Achiles is positioned in a way that looks athletic like the Greek statues, but at the same time he can see everyone from his peripheral vision. He does not look straight at her because he would lose sight of some of the people surrounding him.
It shows what a perfect warrior Achiles is. Everything goes on full instinct and intuition.
Thats a beautiful phrase! "Instinct and Intuition"
I mean it's a pretty common thing to do in a situation like that.
Imagine a king who fought his own battles wouldn’t that be a sight
Achilles
And comes Alexander The Great
And yet Agamemnon was one of the best warriors in the Iliad and the only one to never need direct divine aid in battle.
Alexander enters the chat..
...you Rangggggggg 😃
We saw it when hector arrived on the field
Well Agamemnon was in the thick of battle at one point in this movie on a chariot, almost got hit with an arrow
No argument with you brothers...if you not release her you never see home again...
Decided
favorite line
@@YonkoChris Agreed
YEAHHHHH ... And don't forget the last part : "before my Time IS done I will look down on your corps and smille". 😱😱😱 Le gars menace un roi 😱😱😱
You forgot "but" and is not "decided"
Is decide 😎
@@anthonyjohnson9106 a greek
3:06
I just absolutely adore Briseis' subtle reaction to Achilles standing down.
She's like, "Oh, this is my Man."
@@warrenwong7358 lol definitely. He was hers to command.
silenced by a slave girl
"I will look down on your corpse and smile"-Achilles :)
Wish come true
😆😆
Achilles said that, not the nigga king.
@@rthelionheart "lol !" -Achilles :)
Achilles said that
And yet in the actual canon, it was inaccurate. Agamemnon doesn't die that way. Achilles actually dies first.
The best part is the last. Agamemnon knows Achilles is blessed by the Gods. He knows Achilles isn't... 'normal'... His prediction: "before my time is done I will look upon your corpse" is therefore absolutely terrifying because of his connection with the Gods - it could be foresight.......
Wasn't Achilles a demigod?
@@Seek1878 In this movie I don't think he's actually a demigod. In the actual story/poem that this is based off of I think he's supposed to be a demigod.
😁 Agamemnon:”Of all the warlords loved by the gods, I hate him the most.”
@@AdeptKing they don't really ever pick what Achilles is in this movie tbh..You can never really tell if he's invincible or not..Only that he was struck in the chest kinda by Hector and then killed in the very spot where he was not dipped in years before hand.. Then you have the arrows shooting him in the chest and one can wish that they only hurt him but did not do the final blow..ahahhh...
@@Seek1878 no his mom dip him in a special river that stop him from taking damages but he was a amazing warrior without that so you can see why he so good no he wasn’t a god or demigod just special water that his mom did to him as a baby but forget to do his ankle and that where he gets his name
How stupid was it of those soldiers to draw their blades against Achilles knowing his reputation....
+Michael Proctor - Exactly, he took over a city when he was a teen.
They didn´t really have a choice tbh... But I get what you mean tho
Something about fulfilling a job description. It's not always about doing the smart thing, some times it just about doing what your told. On the other hand, how smart is a king who makes a enemy of his best warrior. He risked losing all those men in the fight and having to execute Achilles for drawing a sword in his presence.
damned if they do damned if they don't, slain by Achillies or Agamemnon would probably have had them executed for disobeying him (their king)
HolyHank - One more example of how Agamemnon could have been a better king. It's best keep (all) your soldiers focused on the common enemy. A good leader knows it's far better to be respected than hated.
"...you'll never see home again."
"Yeah, i'm out." - Probably a guard.
“ be careful king of kings first you need the victory” 😂
Let's be honest, if Briseis didn't speak up, Achilles would've merked their asses and walked out with her on his shoulder
0:29 I love Odysseus’s little smirk right there 😂 he’s like bro please stop the 🧢
"YOU SACK OF WINE!"
Ulfric Stormcloak Brad Pitt woulda made a damn fine He-Man. When he pulled his sword i kept thinking,
"BY THE POWER OF GRAYSCO!"0
Das Nordkönig-Bergentrückung old wine too lol
Im gonna try using that insult in the work environment and see what happens.
Lol! I thought he had said ' you sack of swine!' that would of been a much better insult.
@@royrowland4040
In the actual source text, Achilles roasts the shit out of Agamemnon even harder. For like 1-3 pages depending on the translation and edition, it is absolutely brutal
"You can have the beach i didn't come for sand"
A fight inside that tent... Achilles with his sword would have made mincemeat out of those guys with lances.
unless they poke him in the heel looool
LordKira The heel isn't his weakness. He can be killed anywhere. Paris shot him on the body and he died.
nope, Achilles was invulnerable in all of his body except for his heel because, when his mother Thetis dipped him in the river Styx as an infant, she held him by one of his heels. Alluding to these legends, the term "Achilles heel" has come to mean a point of weakness, especially in someone or something with an otherwise strong constitution.
yea. rip
I like how the movie did the heel. Achillies was shot full of arrows and took all but the one in the heel out before he died. thus giving rise to the legend he was killed with an arrow to the heel because it was the only one visable to the soldiers who saw his body.
Achiles always was my favourite hero of our history... But for those who dont know Agamemnon was a great King and a skillfull warior at his prime not as mighty Achiles but he was not like that oldman in the movie
Achilles*
Well, he would have been around 40 when the Trojan War started. So it makes sense he wasn’t charging in with his army. And that’s if we’re going based on Helens age of around 7-10 when she marries Menelaus who was 25 at the oldest, and Agamemnon who is like 3 years younger.
It makes sense for him to be old since most Ancient Greek Soldiers were around 15-23 in age. Our perception of old has changed obviously. But Agamemnon being 32-40 during the Trojan War and not leading them into battle makes sense. Priam was old as well
@@m.c.martin No, he wouldn't have been. They never establish either Agamemnon's or Achilles's ages in the Iliad. Agamemnon is only a few years older than Achilles and Menelaus.
The truly "old" guys were Odysseus (said by Nestor's son, Antilochus to be of a an "older generation" so maybe around 40 years old, Idomeneus who was said to be "greying" so maybe around 50, and Nestor was said to be the oldest but still capable of fighting so around 60 at the oldest?
And Agamemnon was indeed said to fight. And fight incredibly well. He was one of the best warriors there. He was compared to three gods I beauty and strength and even King Priam admires him from the walls.
Yes, you're partially right except Agamemnon was indeed almost on Achilles' level. He was compared to three gods in beauty and strength and routed the Trojans to their walls without divine aid. He was a beast.
How to make Achilles seem like a good person- put him next to Agamemnon.
Kind of like Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker next to Darth Sidious/Emperor Sheev Palpatine
Lu Bu / Dhong Zhuo
Achilles got what he wanted! His name has lasted through the ages
"you sack of wine"-Achilles
King be like "Oh shit i pissed him"
duy van thanh "BEFORE MY TIME IS DONE, I WILL LOOK DOWN ON YOUR CORPSE AND SMILE!"
Actually, Briseis did that.
@@leonardobraynen1524 In the inaccurate movie. Agamemnon doesn't actually die that way.
@@ThePaganSun i know dude. I read the Iliad. He was murdered by his wife in the tub after Briseis bathes him. But i still enjoyed the movie
@@leonardobraynen1524 Mostly yes. But it was Cassandra who he brought back, not Briseis. And in the Odyssey, he dies in a feast and his men butchered (like the Red Wedding in Game of Thrones which is probably where they got it from).
Not The Iliad, but The Orestia.
1:14 that smirk tho !! 😂😂😂love it
"Decide"
Brat own this character to the fullest, by far one of his best acting ever ..
Be carefull king of kings first you need the victory- for me its the best citate in the movie, also for real life
Lol at Agamemnon’s face at the end. “Oh shit...oops.”
William Wallace was a soldier hes remembered more than a king
The actor who plays Agamemnon does a great job!
The whole scene is a masterpiece. The characters don't like each other but try to keep calm. Listen to the tones of voices at the beginning of the dialogue. Much suspense which escalates at the hand. Fantastic scene.
Achilles is ruthless, but he's certainly ain't no fool!
Agamemnon: Kill him!
Soldiers: No thanks, I choose life.
Bro look at his entrance, it is fucking flawless
War is young men dying and old men talking !
It's also a profession where the young dies early so old men in that line speaks upon itself being alive that long
"I hate sand."
IS THAT A STAR WARS REFERENCE
Sorry Anakin you entered the wrong movie.
Me too but Helen Junot I need but afraid of hurting her at night bluebeeards ghost of perking off at night. Does anyone masturbate?
Bruh
@@Elementalspecter 😂
One of my favourite Brad pitt movie's alongside Interview with a vampire and snatch
Fight club, seven, 12 monkeys, Spy Game, Inglourious Basterds, Moneyball, Killing Them Softly and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood are all fantastic films that he was in.
The two you listed are excellent as well.
3:31 "Alright shit I pressed my luck with that last jest and I didn't call enough guards.."
I love the tension between these fellas!
She seemed shocked at his reaction at 3:05
She was, she knew right there and than that Achilles was already head over hills in love with her.
Well yeah you understand why in the next scene they have together after Achilles saves her from being raped and brings her back to his tent.
Where she says she thought he was a dumb brute.
She comes to find out that he is a man of compassion and wisdom and not just some blind soldier like the rest.
To the people here who are also angry at Agamemnon.
When he was returned home, he would be slaughtered by his wife and her lover for supposedly sacrificing his daughter.
He gets exactly what he deserves in the end.
@@emilylucas2217 yes. He was morally corrupt before the ships pulled ashore. And filled with hubris.
ghostfire 119 i guess but he was killed at the end of this movie ahahah..
He sacrifices his daughter because army forces it upon him.
Talk about karma eh?
When you play football in school playground and some kids take your ball 2:38
Ha ha ha
“GUARDS!”
*achillies takes out his sword *
*every guard in there just took a shit *
He ain't lying "History remembers Kings! Not soldiers!"
I only know his name because of Achilles we even have a body part named after the guy and a turn of phrase.
@@daledrakewriter4912 it's an exception sadly.
"History remembers KINGS! NOT SOLDIERS!"
Khalid Ibn Walid: I see you've chosen... DEATH!!!
This is what it comes down to-While the others are regular army... Achilles is a mercenary for hire (well, his payment was Glory, not money).
It’s funny how Achilles and Odysseus react to Agamemnon giving gifts to the lower kings
Those gaurds didnt know what the hell they were getting themselves into
3:23: "You sack of wine!"
Achilles is probably the only person in the world who can insult Agamemnon in this manner and not be executed.
2:13 - 2:21
The response after what Agamemnon says to Achilles is just the biggest sarcasm at its finest 😂
2:45 Absolute Perfection.
When he said "YOU SACK OF WINE"
I felt that
I don't know why these soldiers thought they would stand a chance against Achilles, who just won the whole battle at the beach by himself
The one man Achilles respected walked out the door
That first dude talking to Agamemnon was the dude in the imperial walker on Hoth lol I just realized that now
Yes, that's Julian Glover as General Veers.
Triopas King of Thessaly
Achilles: her V card is mine
Agamemnon: you just met her...
The intangibles in this scene are priceless timeless and compelling.
This right here is why I love Warner Bros. The Best out there in terms of multi-diverse films. HBO Max has quality content, once I got it I canceled all other streaming apps.
"Before my time is done, I will look down at your corpse, and smile." One of the hardest lines EVER!!
I recall Brian Cox saying in an interview that he was just struck dumb by how gorgeous Brad was in that movie.
I kinda wanted Achilles to slaughter the guards
then you're missing the point. Guards are nothing but soldiers. The fun would be Achilles punishing Agamemnon while the guards are set free to their families.
Me too
2:16 It was funny when Agamemnon replied "I already have." 😂
"If killing is your only talent, that's your curse." That's still one more talent than you have, lady.
One of the few movies in which Sean Bean doesn't die
Thanks God this and such movies were created in normal times and we can watch so beautiful movie
There is no pact between men and Lions ..agamemnon heart was melted here
That fighting stance Achilles took meant death to all of them. They real lucky she spoke up and didn’t want him to fight
In the actual book, Achilles stabbed Agamemnon's scepter into his stomach and made him cry. That's how badass Achilles was, that he could do that to a king.
I really wanted to see this play out!
Brad Pitt hottest in this movie
1:50 The bullying starts
“Before my time is down, I will look down on your corpse and smile!”
😂
history remembers the trojan war well and the heroes who fought in it. there is a big bang episode in year 1 where sheldon is advising penny whether or not to date leonard (shroedingers cat episode) and sheldon mentions helen of troy, menalaous and agememnon. achilles, hector and paris probably remembered the most, especially achilles.
If Agamemnon wasn't a maniacal narcissistic tyrant sociopath... and he ruled with stern but fair authority and maybe even a little bit of empathy... would Achilles respect him? Or does he only respect warriors?
Fun Fact: The first king to pay homage to Agamemnon in this scene is Triopas, played by Julian Glover, who was the main villain (Walter Donovan) in INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CRUSADE.
🇬🇷 Achilles Demigod Hero was the son of Peleus, a Greek king and Achilles was the son of the Thetis, a Goddess, and Peleus, the Greek king and King of the Myrmidons. 🇬🇷
Achilles calls the king a ,,sack of wine” and later threatens him.
This is the first time that Agamemnon realises that this is no longer a subtle battle of power between the two of them and all the tension and hatred is about to unfold, so he has to take measures.
The warrior has never openly challenged his authority to that moment.
You can see the shock on Agamemnon’s face.
He knew that Achilles wasn’t his biggest fan, but did not expect him to act in such manner.
On the flip side the king finally has an excuse to remove Achilles since he insulted him in front of the soldiers.
GREAT PART RIGHT HERE!
The Song of Achilles changes this so much for me :(
1:49 Why does Agamemnon stress that sentence like "Soldiers don't remember kings, but history does."
All the Kings guards we’re scared and nervous as they were about to be killed by Achilles.
I honestly just came here to read sack of wine related comments.
Hilarious that the king from the start of the movie is now fawning over him like everyone else
Agamemnon has such a badass boat. If I lived near water I'd build me one.
If chillin is you only talent that's your curse.
Definitely my curse🤣
Why does Agamemnon tolerate such insolence from Achilles? He's still a soldier and is owed respect for his king
2:45 The penalties in hell are so very severe, that you should endeavour to find someone who will always bring out the best in you and never the worst in you, and for your own safety and wellbeing rather than their own selfish concerns, because the opposite of that will only condemn you both. In that respect, the *critically important* thing to note is that this moment represents the *extreme opposite* in Principle to the adulterous relationship between Helen and Paris which led to the Trojan War and the death and destruction of many.
This is an important lesson for every man to learn because if you are fighting *over* a woman you are firmly in the grip of Satan/Mara, as opposed to the *righteous defence* of a woman which is worthwhile. So it’s worth finding a woman who is righteously guided and strives to *prevent* conflict between men to the maximum extent possible. Even if they are a born into the hereditary warrior class/tradition and train in the martial arts, as with the men they should only apply their skills as a *last resort* in the defence of righteous ideals.
Although, I don’t think any woman is by *nature* so manipulative as to derive their self worth from men fighting over them, and I don’t think Helen was either because her Love for Paris appears to have been genuine, though she doesn’t compare to Briseis in Virtue. But I do think that women who have suffered at the hands of the corrupt and become deprived of self-worth to the extreme risk becoming corrupted by the sensual realm to the point of deriving satisfaction thus. They really do need *spiritual help* because that is not the pathway to heaven on earth or heaven subsequent.
If i was the guard I would know i would lose and wouldn't attack
If you were the guard, you would also know that king Agamenom would send an order to execute you and your family for refusing your kings orders
shit...true....lol
" ignore the politics " - Lord Stark
"You sack of wine!" (me with a bag of doritos and full cheeks) "Mwaut?"
The Force is strong in him😂😂
I try and say those words as often as possible in my life.
"Before my time is done, I will look down on your corpse and smile."
3:23 Agamemnon's face was worth watching here
Every guard in that tent breathed a sigh of relief when she stopped him. It's my job but damn I don't want to try this guy.
0:29 two back benchers staring at each other in a math class.
I'll always wonder what Agamemnon would think seeing his dream of a united Greece today.
I really can't pretend that she's not the same girl that played Jackie Q. God dammit.
Go on, son. 3:15
Idk why the king is laughing because the girl made Achilles stop like she just kept him from putting atleast half a dozen people on tshirts 😂
Okay can we appreciate how gorgeous this man is even being in covered in mud
Yes, I WILL, "Chump".
Unless The FBI saves YOU, from ME.