The government should not be a stakeholder in any religion, it is always an individual choice, and the state should not dictate regarding the religion unless it affects our national security.
Sir, can a person, who legally belongs to one certain religion, avail the provision under Article 25, to freely propagate another religion to which he does not legally belong to? Does the law protect him/her for doing so?
It is more important to check the elected representatives from changing parties rather than stopping people from changing religion. Changing one's religion is a democratic right but changing parties is undemocratic and unethical. But here the opposite is happening and approved of.
100% true encroaching individual belief is none of the business. Neither court, nor any other neighbor in this country. With the fanatics or any one saying forced conversion I will give one lakh let him change his religion other than his present religion. All but political gains to gain power. Why people are blind to accept without facts and figures of ground reports.
Truthfully and correctly explained. A judge should have no political or religious agenda or even bias. It used to be like that and the Indian judiciary was well respected, but not any more. If one bench reject a plea it goes to another in the same court and there it is accepted as a very serious issue.
I think honorable Justice Deepak Gupta failed to appreciate the fact that WRT missionary religions, proselytizing is very much part and parcel of profession of their religion. And it is so with many modern Hindu sects too. Even the great Swami Vivekananda converted sister Nivedita. So i think it is quite a contradiction to say that converting is illegal and only profession is allowed by the law.
Right to religious freedom is one of the most misused law in India. The first thing the govt should do is REMOVE the right to propagate from this law. Right to follow any religion should not include the right to propagate any religion. U LESS this is done Christian Missionaries on One hand and Radical muslims on the other hand are having a field day by Converting HINDUS posing a Threat to the Very existence of HINDUISM. The opposition parties in their DESPERATION to confront the BJP are encouraging these Conversions in all the states they are in power like Bengal, kerala, Tamil nadu, Rajasthan, Chattisghar, Andhra n Telangana. Leftists in the judiciary are abetting this process.
The govt has no business in religious conversions.the govt says it conserves or defends the traditions .which, muslim,buddhist,christian or hindhu tradition.
The government of India is not all worried about the untouchability, superstitions, atrocities and terrorism and worried about the religious conversions. Political leaders can change the parties accepting the bribes, fraud, allurements, etc,then why can't the common citizen change the religions. A government employee can take permission from the government to accept bribes to carry out his duties. Why Can't a vigilante group take permission from the government before carrying out the atrocities? Can the parents impose and thrust upon their religion to their wards while bringing up?
Towards the end of the interview, the guy seemed dissatisfied by the honest opinion held by the judge on how propogate dosent uphold conversion. Islam and Christianity have no business wanting to convert any Indian.
Sedition statute protect sovereignty of India from unauthorized British colonialism judiciary now collegium system defied Sovereignty where judges rebelious debates misleading people exciting disaffection disloyality liable for punishment engaged to confrontational activities threats to sovereignty of India. Let President of India MS Droupadi Murmur competent Supreme authority to revoke officials permission authorization granted to Supreme Court to deal with British colonial legislation now collegium system President of India MS Droupadi Murmur should revoke authorization granted temporarily in favor of Supreme Court and take actions against 90 officers found engaged to illicit activities by criminal misconduct by illicit agreement with some advocates agents of judges appointed by collegium system seditious conspiracy disloyality and disaffection to sovereignty of India anti India. 90 retired officers कानून मन्त्री के खिलाफ खत लिखे " आप का व्यान सुप्रिम कोर्ट पर हमले जैसे " जनता अधिकार हनन 5 backlog cases निलंबित क्यो? 1), सम्बन्धित अधिकारी बिट आफिसर तैनात कर अवैध धन्धे करवाते और माफिया दलाल आतातायी लोगो से साठगांठ कर उगाही खुलेआम करते है ब्रिटिश कोलोनियल निरंकुश कानून सञ्चालन सुप्रीम कोर्ट अस्थाई रूप से by officials permission authorization granted in favor of Supreme Court to deal with British colonial legislation protected by Supreme Court and Supreme Court is subject to recognition and control of guidelines of British colonialism legislation oppressive laws intended for domination over sovereignty of India lessened strength of preamble of constitution anti India.
You guys don't care when a person dies of starvation and needlessly bothered about his conversion to other religion. Care for yourself and your family and the others will take care of themselves.
If state has no business regulating religion, who else will regulate?? Typical zimmi mentality of woke judges and woke channels. Teach this in middle East. Bloody ghulami mansiktawale
What bullshit!..It is the State and people's rights to know about change of religion just as it makes it its business to know the caste of an individual.
To protect Art 29(1) the state has every right to ensure that the group rich to conserve culture has not been violated by deception or coercion or otherwise. Judges have not read Art 29(1) till now.
What happened Manu, by listening his conclusion of RELIGION OF BOOK,, By words or by swords,. You found urself in one of it ,ooohhh., then u felt ohh, u Sebastian , u have nothing to offer to Manu,,.
Allurements are openly given in lacs of rupees and also for ministerial birth etc to get MLA MP to join a political party of even of opposite idealogies. That is allowed though it is very serious wrong and treacherous to the voters who voted for them because they fought on some party's ticket whose idealogy they liked. Very Hodge podge and self contradictory rulings. Shame on Government judiciary and political parties and MLA MP etc.
What provision is there to regulate changing from one party to another for monetary benefits and topple elected governments overnights. The current government is only interested in changing religion and the honorable Supreme Court has entertained a PIL which has only an ideological motive. Why should I get permission from a magistrate ro change my religion if I am above 18? Should I get permission from magistrate to change my mind on which party to vote for?
When a person who has become must move bark in accordance with constitution through which he has been installed on the chair 💺 of Vice-president though he had award of ZAR of INDIA and his second in command Shensha on acting like cobbler chatukar chaplues Makkar person putting aside constitution country of India through which got governor ship in WB.Even got law degree backdoor way
In the prevailing situation today in the country when Hindu temples, Hindu values and Hindu traditions and way of life are under constant threat of destruction by anti-Hindu forces mainly the Muslim and Christian minorities, it is imperative that we have an active anti-conversion law.
The question to be asked what is the percentage of those Hindus from upper castes converted to Christianity by conviction of their tenets ss against those in lower strata .It will be alarming.Those in lower strata of zHinfu society only get converted due to the means employed by missionaries.Can anyone deny this ,? This is the crux of the problem Therefore there is a need to propagate by Hindu seer o n these dubious ways used for conversion at slums and villages I am from Kerala and s witness to such unholy conversions . They try all means including denigrating Hindi gods and goddesses I can challenge on this The main reason is Pope is worried his flock is declining in Asia
@@kamalakshrao7230 Hindu seers, pandits(pujaris) are demonized by Islamists, conversion mafia so they have zero influence on Hindus and more importantly on SCs, STs unlike mullahs and fosters who grip over both the minorities. RSS, VHP,Hindu Mahasabha like social organisations should take maximum responsibility.
@Venkatesan A Bhakt And 99% Possible BJP Voter Spotted. So By Your Logic USA UAE QATAR & U.K Must Also Be Worried About Growing Hindu Population In Their Country Because They Can Change The Demographics And Start Civil Wars. And In Country Like India Which Has 90% Hindu Population Hindus Live Constant Threats By Muslims Sikhs & Christians Hahahaha That Must Be A Joke Of Year 2023 :-)
Thank time This judge has retired He has no clue what is going on at the ground level He has mentioned his religion all through his life from admission in KG to the last position He held Nation comes first and last any subterfuge there must not be tolerated
So the nation in your lala land mind needs to be a certain religion ? When people become aware of things they will change , sounds like insecure people have lots of issues with people disagreeing with their belief about god
This ex judge is living in an LA LA land. As regards educated and learned people may be right, but India has a very large population who have no or little educated or unsophisticated. The government must exercise control to prevent forced or by allurement or fraud conversion.he must be a woke.
People who want to preserve their caste stuff and entitlements are rated about conversion. What do they have to say about ambethkar denouncing Hindu religion and converting. Banish cast and we will talk of conversion.
Exactly. Guptaji might be a convertee or pseudo secular to the core or on their pay role. What nonsense he speaks. He is supporting with an agenda. Doesn't he know what's happening in the country for decades and happened recently also.
So educated needs to tell someone which god they can follow ? Such arrogance , following god is a spiritual thing. You are saying most of the indian people have no brains or ethics or judgments that u the educated that has the privilege Arrogance nothing else
Sounds like its the insecure people that dont want others to change their religion. Whats happening in india is people converting , i would argue is because of people being more aware Are you saying india was more educated before when they followed a certain religion ?
former Judge is highy theoritical. " State has no business to know which religion I belong to" Well is that is true , then whole lot of provisons based on religion has no meaning .. I am a majority religion changed to minority religion -- Now I am eleigible to get all the benefits of minority religion gets from constitutions Example : Minority institutions gets lots of immunity . Hence state need to know by religion whether I changed by religion just to get the benefits .. Extending the same logic -- Can I change my caste and get all caste based benefits ? Judge has to fast forward his thought process to present day happenings which is purely benefit oriented - All religion conversions are benefit oriented of various kind - I am poor - i have been offred 50 KG rice , I will convert ..
Religious conversion often create unrest in society and even violence among different religious groups. Conversion should not be allowed to make the sentiments balanced. Give respect to all religions. Any citizen should be able to profess any religious belief without conversion. This makes to fill gap between different groups. Why the people are not allowed to marry inter religiously without conversion? The business of conversion should be punishable
my religious belief is none of anyones consernn if it creates unrest its their problem just because it makes you angry that someone doesnt agree with you you cant make it illegal. address the problems that causes the people to convert instead of threatening with illegitimate law. if you want to talk about conversion we hindus were converted from kuladaivam valipadu, sivam, vynavam, lingayath, aaseevaham, ravaniam and countless other religions into hindu by the british because they didnt know the difference between them. know your own history before blabering. until the british clubbed every non christian, non muslim, non budist under hinduism we all had our own religion which is all clubbed under 1 tag now.
Yes, sir. This thread swarmed by converters so supporting conversations. Do they dare to converted muslims so massively as Hindus are converted!? No. Because they attack and even kill hence they dare not and even muslim convertees 'll be attacked and ostracized hence they dare not.
@@nainitalismCan. But bill on forced conversions. How many muslims are converted into Christianity!? Aren't there poor in them. Dare they do it!? Both converter and converted 'll be attacked as conveted becomes kafir so also converter hence dare not do it.
As long as the conversion is not a forced or enticed one. While there is no conversion under sanatan dharm, other two religions are predatory in nature. It is strange to know that the justice is unaware of this trend.
@@atifzaidi8198 ek baat bataeye Bharat me hum sabkuchh English me kar rahe hain aur vyang hua to Aap use political rang dene lage. Mere Kahne ka Matlab wo nahi tha jo Aap samajhe . Mera kerne ka tarika galat tha iske liye ho sake to Kshama kar dijiye.
It is important for the state and country to be concerned with demography of the country,a religious conversion divides a family and society and removes the security net provided by the society which is so important, it creates enemity between parents and children,brother and sister and so on, change in demography will lead to civil wars just like Lebanon,iran, Iraq ,Pakistan ,Bangladesh etc .
@Satish Bhakt And 99% Possible BJP Voter Spotted So By Your Logic USA UAE QATAR & U.K Must Also BeWorried About Growing Hindu Population In Their Country Because They Can Change The Demographics And Start Civil Wars.
Nothing but full of jealousy That's why England elected practicing Hindu as PM and American companies have full of Hindu CEOs. For Hindus unlike to Christians, muslims who are 24x7 about religion and thus killing kafirs( not for all but for jihadis and conversions( not for all but for conversion mafia) is the way to abode of God, God is individual way to the abode of God. That's why they never involve in others religion affairs and try to convert others. That's both Christian and Muslim countries accepted them open arms. Know the facts.Why IS, Boko haram and Al quida etc exist in muslims and kill among theselves.
If Government has no right to ask for religion a belongs, then abolish all the govt. Employment forms when it asks religion. Abolish religious & caste based Benifits. Unless it is known, how the govt. Is going to give the Benifits.
State has every business to protect its civilization which is integral to dharma (often misinterpreted as religion) & has responsibility to look after whether the conversion to another religion derived from different ethnic identity is being accomplished under force or financial opportunity. Otherwise conversion following self-realization is certainly not falling under govt's prerogative. Forceful or prize induced conversion is the artificial way to change the ethnic identity into a certain side Diversity is natural in a pluralistic society which will eventually dilute the ethnic identity one day in either side but doing it artificially to manipulate it to have a certain outcome to reach that goal in a fastest possible way will raise tension within the society what's being seen nowadays. So govt decision is correct.
Then why you people start crying when someone starts Gharwapasi programs. Isn't it hypocritical?
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Thanks hon,ble justice for fair interpretation
Mind is an impregnable fortress !👌
Horse trading is a biggest offence. Yet no one passes a law against it. Why? Because all are in the same boat. GAIN. GAIN, GAIN.
The government should not be a stakeholder in any religion, it is always an individual choice, and the state should not dictate regarding the religion unless it affects our national security.
Thank you very much for a very good conversation highlighting interpretation of 'allurement' which is the base for PIL.
Great discussion. Thank you
Sir, can a person, who legally belongs to one certain religion, avail the provision under Article 25, to freely propagate another religion to which he does not legally belong to? Does the law protect him/her for doing so?
It is more important to check the elected representatives from changing parties rather than stopping people from changing religion. Changing one's religion is a democratic right but changing parties is undemocratic and unethical. But here the opposite is happening and approved of.
Good job conflating forced conversions with conversions by free will.
True. No one can force a person to follow any religion by allurement/ incentives.
But that's the way political parties win elections
100% true encroaching individual belief is none of the business. Neither court, nor any other neighbor in this country. With the fanatics or any one saying forced conversion I will give one lakh let him change his religion other than his present religion. All but political gains to gain power. Why people are blind to accept without facts and figures of ground reports.
Truthfully and correctly explained. A judge should have no political or religious agenda or even bias. It used to be like that and the Indian judiciary was well respected, but not any more. If one bench reject a plea it goes to another in the same court and there it is accepted as a very serious issue.
So called may lord
On pay roll of conversion mafia!? A convertee!?
@subbarao tanga taru landa laru a hutiya bhakt spotted :-)
@fun fact gawar bjp voter its MY LORD :-)
Sir,u r vry right.its nobody bussiness to interfre n religious,govt of India s doin politics
I think honorable Justice Deepak Gupta failed to appreciate the fact that WRT missionary religions, proselytizing is very much part and parcel of profession of their religion. And it is so with many modern Hindu sects too. Even the great Swami Vivekananda converted sister Nivedita. So i think it is quite a contradiction to say that converting is illegal and only profession is allowed by the law.
In that case gharwapsi fullswing🚩
If done converters learn a lesson. But Hindus are not that aggressive hence they convert Hindus. Dare they to muslims. Lose heads.
Hutiya Bhakt Spotted :-)
Right to religious freedom is one of the most misused law in India. The first thing the govt should do is REMOVE the right to propagate from this law. Right to follow any religion should not include the right to propagate any religion. U LESS this is done Christian Missionaries on One hand and Radical muslims on the other hand are having a field day by Converting HINDUS posing a Threat to the Very existence of HINDUISM. The opposition parties in their DESPERATION to confront the BJP are encouraging these Conversions in all the states they are in power like Bengal, kerala, Tamil nadu, Rajasthan, Chattisghar, Andhra n Telangana. Leftists in the judiciary are abetting this process.
Sir.
In that case WHY the State should do discrimination on basis of religion?
The govt has no business in religious conversions.the govt says it conserves or defends the traditions .which, muslim,buddhist,christian or hindhu tradition.
But BJP & Its Shameless Voters Bhakts Will Never Understand This. One Clap For Justice Gupta Sir.
Bjp will win in 2024.just saying
Anybody can do anything under rule of law
The government of India is not all worried about the untouchability, superstitions, atrocities and terrorism and worried about the religious conversions. Political leaders can change the parties accepting the bribes, fraud, allurements, etc,then why can't the common citizen change the religions. A government employee can take permission from the government to accept bribes to carry out his duties. Why Can't a vigilante group take permission from the government before carrying out the atrocities? Can the parents impose and thrust upon their religion to their wards while bringing up?
Did you just compare forced conversions with changing parties?
This govt s crossing all the limit,thy r nt doing as secular govt
How true Sir, you are on the right track. Conversion is a very personal right. It's between God and me. No one has the right to mind my business.
Towards the end of the interview, the guy seemed dissatisfied by the honest opinion held by the judge on how propogate dosent uphold conversion.
Islam and Christianity have no business wanting to convert any Indian.
Sedition statute protect sovereignty of India from unauthorized British colonialism judiciary now collegium system defied Sovereignty where judges rebelious debates misleading people exciting disaffection disloyality liable for punishment engaged to confrontational activities threats to sovereignty of India. Let President of India MS Droupadi Murmur competent Supreme authority to revoke officials permission authorization granted to Supreme Court to deal with British colonial legislation now collegium system
President of India MS Droupadi Murmur should revoke authorization granted temporarily in favor of Supreme Court and take actions against 90 officers found engaged to illicit activities by criminal misconduct by illicit agreement with some advocates agents of judges appointed by collegium system seditious conspiracy disloyality and disaffection to sovereignty of India anti India.
90 retired officers कानून मन्त्री के खिलाफ खत लिखे " आप का व्यान सुप्रिम कोर्ट पर हमले जैसे " जनता अधिकार हनन 5 backlog cases निलंबित क्यो?
1), सम्बन्धित अधिकारी बिट आफिसर तैनात कर अवैध धन्धे करवाते और माफिया दलाल आतातायी लोगो से साठगांठ कर उगाही खुलेआम करते है ब्रिटिश कोलोनियल निरंकुश कानून सञ्चालन सुप्रीम कोर्ट अस्थाई रूप से by officials permission authorization granted in favor of Supreme Court to deal with British colonial legislation protected by Supreme Court and Supreme Court is subject to recognition and control of guidelines of British colonialism legislation oppressive laws intended for domination over sovereignty of India lessened strength of preamble of constitution anti India.
You guys don't care when a person dies of starvation and needlessly bothered about his conversion to other religion. Care for yourself and your family and the others will take care of themselves.
First of all why should missionaries and maulanas engage in case conversion.
Islam is meant to spread...Not only maulanas but all Muslims are required to invite non Muslims to Islam...
If state has no business regulating religion, who else will regulate?? Typical zimmi mentality of woke judges and woke channels. Teach this in middle East. Bloody ghulami mansiktawale
What bullshit!..It is the State and people's rights to know about change of religion just as it makes it its business to know the caste of an individual.
To protect Art 29(1) the state has every right to ensure that the group rich to conserve culture has not been violated by deception or coercion or otherwise. Judges have not read Art 29(1) till now.
Kindly read group right for group rich. It is mistype. Error regretted.
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What happened Manu, by listening his conclusion of RELIGION OF BOOK,,
By words or by swords,.
You found urself in one of it ,ooohhh., then u felt ohh, u Sebastian , u have nothing to offer to Manu,,.
Allurements are openly given in lacs of rupees and also for ministerial birth etc to get MLA MP to join a political party of even of opposite idealogies. That is allowed though it is very serious wrong and treacherous to the voters who voted for them because they fought on some party's ticket whose idealogy they liked. Very Hodge podge and self contradictory rulings. Shame on Government judiciary and political parties and MLA MP etc.
If Center neglects this important development in our country, then very foundation of our society will be destroyed.He is talking nonsense.He .
What provision is there to regulate changing from one party to another for monetary benefits and topple elected governments overnights. The current government is only interested in changing religion and the honorable Supreme Court has entertained a PIL which has only an ideological motive. Why should I get permission from a magistrate ro change my religion if I am above 18? Should I get permission from magistrate to change my mind on which party to vote for?
When a person who has become must move bark in accordance with constitution through which he has been installed on the chair 💺 of Vice-president though he had award of ZAR of INDIA and his second in command Shensha on acting like cobbler chatukar chaplues Makkar person putting aside constitution country of India through which got governor ship in WB.Even got law degree backdoor way
In the prevailing situation today in the country when Hindu temples, Hindu values and Hindu traditions and way of life are under constant threat of destruction by anti-Hindu forces mainly the Muslim and Christian minorities, it is imperative that we have an active anti-conversion law.
You are worried about 1.5% Christians. Lol
Exactly,sir.
The question to be asked what is the percentage of those Hindus from upper castes converted to Christianity by conviction of their tenets ss against those in lower strata .It will be alarming.Those in lower strata of zHinfu society only get converted due to the means employed by missionaries.Can anyone deny this ,? This is the crux of the problem
Therefore there is a need to propagate by Hindu seer o n these dubious ways used for conversion at slums and villages
I am from Kerala and s witness to such unholy conversions .
They try all means including denigrating Hindi gods and goddesses
I can challenge on this
The main reason is Pope is worried his flock is declining in Asia
@@kamalakshrao7230 Hindu seers, pandits(pujaris) are demonized by Islamists, conversion mafia so they have zero influence on Hindus and more importantly on SCs, STs unlike mullahs and fosters who grip over both the minorities. RSS, VHP,Hindu Mahasabha like social organisations should take maximum responsibility.
@Venkatesan A Bhakt And 99% Possible BJP Voter Spotted. So By Your Logic USA UAE QATAR & U.K Must Also Be Worried About Growing Hindu Population In Their Country Because They Can Change The Demographics And Start Civil Wars. And In Country Like India Which Has 90% Hindu Population Hindus Live Constant Threats By Muslims Sikhs & Christians Hahahaha That Must Be A Joke Of Year 2023 :-)
If court cannot entertain conversion then why court entertain other religious matter like sabrimala,jallaikattuetc.
why even recognize religion why personal law
Because they relate to discrimination. Just like shah bano case.
dont be ignorant jallikattu is not a religious matter it is condected by all religions in tamilnadu
Court can involve in any issue , if it violates constitutional values
Brilliant -- Courts are selective in their affection towards religion
Rule of justice
Thank time
This judge has retired
He has no clue what is going on at the ground level
He has mentioned his religion all through his life from admission in KG to the last position He held
Nation comes first and last any subterfuge there must not be tolerated
So the nation in your lala land mind needs to be a certain religion ? When people become aware of things they will change , sounds like insecure people have lots of issues with people disagreeing with their belief about god
Hundred two hundred years back the bottom 0.5% of Indians converted to Christianity and today they are in the top 1% of Indians in every way
First stop giving concession to minority religion
Crimes are committed in the name of religious conversions.
This ex judge is living in an LA LA land. As regards educated and learned people may be right, but India has a very large population who have no or little educated or unsophisticated. The government must exercise control to prevent forced or by allurement or fraud conversion.he must be a woke.
Are you serious ?
People who want to preserve their caste stuff and entitlements are rated about conversion. What do they have to say about ambethkar denouncing Hindu religion and converting. Banish cast and we will talk of conversion.
Exactly. Guptaji might be a convertee or pseudo secular to the core or on their pay role. What nonsense he speaks. He is supporting with an agenda. Doesn't he know what's happening in the country for decades and happened recently also.
So educated needs to tell someone which god they can follow ?
Such arrogance , following god is a spiritual thing. You are saying most of the indian people have no brains or ethics or judgments that u the educated that has the privilege
Arrogance nothing else
Sounds like its the insecure people that dont want others to change their religion. Whats happening in india is people converting , i would argue is because of people being more aware
Are you saying india was more educated before when they followed a certain religion ?
former Judge is highy theoritical. " State has no business to know which religion I belong to" Well is that is true , then whole lot of provisons based on religion has no meaning .. I am a majority religion changed to minority religion -- Now I am eleigible to get all the benefits of minority religion gets from constitutions Example : Minority institutions gets lots of immunity . Hence state need to know by religion whether I changed by religion just to get the benefits .. Extending the same logic -- Can I change my caste and get all caste based benefits ? Judge has to fast forward his thought process to present day happenings which is purely benefit oriented - All religion conversions are benefit oriented of various kind - I am poor - i have been offred 50 KG rice , I will convert ..
Exactly.
Exactly,sir.
Religious conversion often create unrest in society and even violence among different religious groups. Conversion should not be allowed to make the sentiments balanced. Give respect to all religions. Any citizen should be able to profess any religious belief without conversion. This makes to fill gap between different groups. Why the people are not allowed to marry inter religiously without conversion? The business of conversion should be punishable
my religious belief is none of anyones consernn if it creates unrest its their problem just because it makes you angry that someone doesnt agree with you you cant make it illegal. address the problems that causes the people to convert instead of threatening with illegitimate law. if you want to talk about conversion we hindus were converted from kuladaivam valipadu, sivam, vynavam, lingayath, aaseevaham, ravaniam and countless other religions into hindu by the british because they didnt know the difference between them. know your own history before blabering. until the british clubbed every non christian, non muslim, non budist under hinduism we all had our own religion which is all clubbed under 1 tag now.
@@praveenpayiran so I dot not have the freedom to choose my religion??????
Yes, sir. This thread swarmed by converters so supporting conversations. Do they dare to converted muslims so massively as Hindus are converted!? No. Because they attack and even kill hence they dare not and even muslim convertees 'll be attacked and ostracized hence they dare not.
@@nainitalismCan. But bill on forced conversions. How many muslims are converted into Christianity!? Aren't there poor in them. Dare they do it!? Both converter and converted 'll be attacked as conveted becomes kafir so also converter hence dare not do it.
As long as the conversion is not a forced or enticed one. While there is no conversion under sanatan dharm, other two religions are predatory in nature. It is strange to know that the justice is unaware of this trend.
U dint see the while video he mentioned exactly what you are saying towards the end. Please listen to the entire clip before making any comments
Conversion is the right of the individual. Who decides it is forced conversion.
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@@atifzaidi8198 ek baat bataeye Bharat me hum sabkuchh English me kar rahe hain aur vyang hua to Aap use political rang dene lage. Mere Kahne ka Matlab wo nahi tha jo Aap samajhe .
Mera kerne ka tarika galat tha iske liye ho sake to Kshama kar dijiye.
Its ok brother no hard feelings love you bro
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Brilliant - We can have one more -- ADVANCED SECULARISM STUDY ( ASS )
Fascist Bjp Voter and pig spotted :-)
If State has no business to know on religion change then what of Benifits records??
It is important for the state and country to be concerned with demography of the country,a religious conversion divides a family and society and removes the security net provided by the society which is so important, it creates enemity between parents and children,brother and sister and so on, change in demography will lead to civil wars just like Lebanon,iran, Iraq ,Pakistan ,Bangladesh etc .
Exactly,sir.
Then what about inter caste marriage.doesn't this ruin family relations.
@Satish Bhakt And 99% Possible BJP Voter Spotted So By Your Logic USA UAE QATAR & U.K Must Also BeWorried About Growing Hindu Population In Their Country Because They Can Change The Demographics And Start Civil Wars.
Nothing but full of jealousy That's why England elected practicing Hindu as PM and American companies have full of Hindu CEOs. For Hindus unlike to Christians, muslims who are 24x7 about religion and thus killing kafirs( not for all but for jihadis and conversions( not for all but for conversion mafia) is the way to abode of God, God is individual way to the abode of God. That's why they never involve in others religion affairs and try to convert others. That's both Christian and Muslim countries accepted them open arms. Know the facts.Why IS, Boko haram and Al quida etc exist in muslims and kill among theselves.
Conversion by forceful means, or in exchange in monies and benefits should be kept in check, period.
Let us study the cases of " love jihad "
Love Jihad Is A Fake Disease Cause By A Fascist Bacteria. It Originated In The Minds Of Bhakts Like You And Injected By RSS BJP & GODI MEDIA :-)
If Government has no right to ask for religion a belongs, then abolish all the govt. Employment forms when it asks religion. Abolish religious & caste based Benifits. Unless it is known, how the govt. Is going to give the Benifits.
State has every business to protect its civilization which is integral to dharma (often misinterpreted as religion) & has responsibility to look after whether the conversion to another religion derived from different ethnic identity is being accomplished under force or financial opportunity. Otherwise conversion following self-realization is certainly not falling under govt's prerogative. Forceful or prize induced conversion is the artificial way to change the ethnic identity into a certain side Diversity is natural in a pluralistic society which will eventually dilute the ethnic identity one day in either side but doing it artificially to manipulate it to have a certain outcome to reach that goal in a fastest possible way will raise tension within the society what's being seen nowadays. So govt decision is correct.
States do have a definite reason to prevent religious conversion.
These judges should mend their way and let the society live peacefully.