Don't care if video was sponsored or not Actions speak louder than words and you guys put those bikes through there paces harder than I ever will Thanks heaps
Thank you. We've put those bikes through more than any other review on UA-cam, that rocky section was punishing and as always the go pro footage dramatically understates the reality of those challenges.
The CF Moto would eat up most of the route with the exception of those rocky bits at the beginning and then you'd just go slower and pick your way through.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV ... You guys picked some gnarly terrain for this video, which is a good thing, because it really shows what the 800 VStrom can do. Maybe the CFMoto is going to be out of its element on those tracks. Maybe slightly better with a pair of Motoz Tractionator GPS 50/50 tyres fitted.
Without going into detail this is adv bike which you can take long trip, to any terrain, without any headache. All in all for me this is the best balanced adv bike! Excellent on road, very capable ofroad, very versatile and reliable. So this Suzuki it's a true definition for midweight adventure bike! Well done SUZUKI 👍
Excellent video Dave and Clubby, very good useful information for those Vstrom enthusiasts and those interested in getting into the ADV market. If suspension is the only real upgrade needed out of the box and maybe tyres etc, I'd be pretty happy with that. It will be nice to see what aftermarket accessories become available. That price is insanely cheap for what you get. Nice work! Excellent all round. 👏👍🇦🇺
I currently own a DL1000, this 800 has a high probability of being my next ride. Top stuff, boys! Cheers from Norway from a former Uni of Newcastle student. 3 of my best years, miss Oz dearly.
I'm not familiar with you guys or your channel, but instantly a big fan! It's not just your experience and the quality of the content...it's the comments! I'm one of those that get lost in reading the comments. I can find so much information there and I highly commend you for taking the time to answer questions and respond to so many of your followers. I realize this is a huge undertaking. Eric
Superbly done, I been anticipating this video for a while and you guys have delivered, I'm a KLR gen 3 owner and I can see that I'll outgrow my bike, the vstrom is an excellent contender for my next bike, cheers 🍻 🤠
I thoroughly tested the 800DE a few weeks ago, off road and it is very, very good. For the British viewers, the 1050 and 800 can be both tested off road at Suzuki Live, Cadwell Park July 15th and 16th. Well worth a visit
@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV absolutely, suspension is ACE, very little pitching fore and aft as the terrain changes plus it reacts well to rapid small bumps , weight is balanced and is hidden well. Fueling is excellent, and that's coming from someone who loves his carburettors. All in all, an excellent mid weight bike.
@theflyingbogie Agreed and thanks for the Cadwell info! Suzuki have knocked it out of the park with this bike. Now, when will we see a new and updated DRZ400 return to UK showrooms please Suzuki?
Thank you Suzuki for getting this bike so right! I rode one offroad the other week and it instantly felt very much in it's natural element. I agree with everything you say here in this vid (and the entertaining and informative way you put it together!) I think the DE's gonna be another future Suzuki classic Ström with another large and loyal fanbase, might even convert a few adventure bike punters over from other manufacturers too once they've ridden one, my first impressions are it really is THAT good. Only time will tell on the reliability side, but knowing Suzuki it's gonna be more or less bulletproof. As an owner from new of a '19 650xt which I love and plan to never sell, and an '82 TS125ER which I'm currently restoring, I've got to say the 800DE has gone straight in almost to the top of my shopping list, (only behind a DRZ400S) and one will definitely be added to the growing Suzuki side of my collection whenever finances allow. Great, great vid guys, very enjoyable, liked n subscribified cheers 👍👍
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Awesome. BTW, I own a 2021 CRF300L Rally and have really enjoyed your coverage/upgrades to that bike. If you ever find yourself in the midwestern US, we have phenomenal riding here in the Ozark Mountains. Thanks again my friend.
Great vid my Aussie cousins. Much fun and a beautiful place. Clubby did some fantastic photography. I also can't believe he didn't bend the front wheel off that rock ledge. Wow! Dave, remember the distance rule when riding with champions. Number of championships. X seconds. So at least 3 for Mr. Aussie super star. Sure he went up against Mat Maladin and several other greats behind the bars. Good adequate review. Buyers think they can just ride of in the sunset with a stock machine, and they can, but they will never know the potential or satisfy their desires if it isn't competently set up for them loaded. Great music Dave. Good job. well, from just a few miles north of Tennessee, in the hills of East Kentucky USA. You fellows take care, be safe.
Yeah got pretty close with Gilesy. I was sliding one way, he was sliding the other. You should have heard Clubby at the time. He was sure we were going to hit. He was squealing like a little pig. :) Great to hear from you Sam. I thought from other conversations you were around that vicinity.
The DR is a completely different beast. But this will take you on the more outback adventures comfortably. I wouldn't be selling the DR. I'd be keeping it for the real tough stuff, unless you're growing out of the tough stuff.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV bloody hell thats some genuinely honest advice, much appreciated. I love the DR but you'd be hard pressed to say she's a pretty thing. Most of my riding is mining tracks and highways.... but sometimes it gets a bit rowdy and the DR takes a beating
I gotta tell you....If the engineers thought of that for the air cleaner screws, imagine how everything else is put together...Gives me a warm feeling right there....
There are so many bikes on the market it’s nice you take the time to bring us your valued opinion on them. Looking at the last video frame you can get your feet pretty high off the ground. That definitely was not expected 🍻
Fantastic video. I've been thinking about trading in my Vstrom650 for this. You're really twisting my arm lol. Probably the best review video I've seen on it and loved how you guys really put the bike thru it's paces off road.
No doubt another premium quality Japenese build , sounds like winner long term bank account balances. The often overlooked very important information is the stranded in the middle of nowhere findings of some brands . The Ol some brands media comment, its a tried and true marketing dollar dodge ball lyric. So glad to hear your reveiw of a cracker bike by the looks of it .
It's a strong competitor to what is a competitive class. There are some cracking bikes in the mid sized twin category. I've ridden just about all of them extensively. Consumers really are spoilt for choice.
I'm really glad to see reviewers pull the bike apart to show how living with maintaining the bike will be. Very encouraging to see Suzuki engineering....geez if only cruise control....this would be my adventure bike and cheaper alternative to the Norden. I"m unrealistically hoping that Suzuki pulls that off as an optional accessory.
I own a Tenere 700 and I test rode the V-Strom 800DE. I was curious about the additional 23 kg (both dry weight) compared to the Tenere 700. What immediately caught my attention is how low the motorcycle sits. Everything is lower compared to the Tenere, including the handlebar, seat, everything. Naturally, this results in a much lower seat height, which may be somewhat uncomfortable for taller individuals (I am 183cm(6ft) with a 90cm(35.4inch) inseam, but this can be solved with a higher seat. I only rode the motorcycle on paved roads and I have to say that the V-Strom feels incredibly stable and provides a COMPLETELY different sensation compared to the Tenere. Of course, you don't notice the extra 23 kg on the road, and because all the weight is situated so low, the motorcycle is very stable in comparison to the Tenere, which tends to sway in various directions at slow speed maneuvers. Low speed maneuvers are also much easier compared to the Tenere. The controls also operate much smoother and more directly compared to the Tenere, including the clutch, throttle response, and brakes. Another thing that caught my attention is the rear brake. With the Tenere you really have to push hard to slow down, whereas the V-Strom's rear brake is much stronger and way more responsive. The tires that were on the V-Strom were the standard tires, which are more road-oriented, so that may have also played in favor of the V-Strom. Overall, the V-Strom performs much better than the Tenere on paved roads. If I were mainly riding on paved roads I would choose the V-Strom. The testride ride convinced me of that..
The old V-Storm is a great touring bike terrible off road. The new 800 looks very interesting! It’s about the suspension and wet weight. The engine looks the goods-smooth, power where you need it and it will be super reliable Suzuki!
My 650XT does surprisingly well off-road (if by off-road you mean dirt and gravel roads). Yes, I can bottom out the forks if I'm not careful, but big deal. Neither bike is suitable for trails, due to the weight.
Thank god (and Suzuki of course 😅)...the Suzuki-Fans have a new on-/offroad-cracker...😊 so you two guys see, Nugget never told you lies about Suzuki...😅... i'm sure, this one is going to be ohne of his favorites...😊 ... i'm really looking forward to a Nugget-test as well...a dream comes true...thank you Dave and Clubby for that fantastic video...i'd like to see more of that...best wishes from West-Germany to Australia from Felix 😊
A very good and helpful review. Besides the air filter access this looks like a great bike , I’m throwing around getting rid of my DR and looking into one of these bikes in the future. So far this bike looks like it can actually handle some hard trails and still be better on the street than a duel sport
Great review, its good you mention you ride harder than the average rider because it means the bike has been tested well. Not just a lap around the block. Would you consider doing a 800 project bike? Not the most popular bike but this new model seems to have plenty of dirt orientated adv potential…
The bike looks extremely interesting, but the lack of cruise control kills it, some of us have to ride long miles to get to the adventure. And if you want to go really far for adventure you're not gonna use twisties to get to your destination 3000km away.
@@MrHSIE I remember back when I used voice commands to help start the bike. After many failed attempts to get the bike to fire, the phrase "c'mon start ya bastard" seemed to do the trick :)
Look, I live in Tennessee. Love it here. Some of the best roads and mountains in the world only, in my opinion. Just bought a suzuki v-strom 800DE. What an awesome bike. Thank you for a great video. Just make me feel I made the right choice for sure. Stay safe. If you ever make it to Tennessee, let me know, and we'll go on some of the best rides in the world. Cheers, mate's
Thorough and enjoyable look at the 800 DE fellas. 👍 As a shorter rider would I trade off my 890 Adventure S, no. But, if I didn’t have the 890 I’d be looking at the 800DE pretty seriously I think. The height would be the biggest negative, especially like you said if suspension work is done. Cracking job!
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV but not the S model, only 2023 model added some adjustments to the suspension of S model, but it is still pretty much street oriented
You need to make a video of a de 800 week trip with a fue de 800s there's not much footage like that iv done some good mods to mine the more you do and more I rode it the better it gets I just love it
Nice review, liked the more in-depth coverage of the filter accessibility and the suspension adjustment attention. Now, I've been hoping for an Aprilia Tuareg 660 follow up, and rarely hear it's mention w/ the Austrian and Japanese mid-rangers. Is there a reason for that, other than it's 660cc's and Aprilia lack of dealer presence? Love your videos, keep up the great work.
There is a lot of coverage of the Tuareg 660 on UA-cam. On this channel (MAD TV) there is a very positive 2000km review. Then there is Ian from Big Rock Moto who actually owns one and has a 6 episode in-detail review. Or you could check out "On the back wheel" for an in depth hard-offroad review of the Tuareg. I myself have done 11500 km on my Tuareg now and I am still in love with it :) But I live in Europe, where the dealer network for Aprilia is not an issue.
@@chukku2175 hey yeah you're right, I watched 2 years of YT's on the Tuareg before I bought the bike (no dealer w/in 300+ miles til a couple months ago). I have the vaguest of memories that Dave said they'd do a little more in-depth review still, don't really know that I need it anymore, lol. But like in this video, when they compare it to the other mid-range motos, I'd love to hear the Tuareg mentioned somewhere in the queue. I really love these guys, and the Aussies have hands down the most brilliant riding roads and trails and I find their reviews so battle tested.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV LOL, yeh I've watched it a # of times. Maybe it was just so smooth and supportive that I thought you might have said you'd be putting it through the wringer in a next review. Hahaha. O well. I just always love your content, and since I now own a Tuareg, I just want to keep hearing how great it is - you know? Hahaha. thanks for the reply
I prefer the reviews from the Australians over most, as they tend to take the bikes out onto some trails for what a dual sport bike was made to do. I don't blame other reviewers as they are limited as to where they can go and what the bike owners will allow them to do.
This is a great review, thanks guys! For me if I had to decide between the original 650 Strom and this bike there is no doubt it would be the 650. Everybody has their own likes, of course. I've been riding all kinds of bikes for, lets' say decades. I am gravitating to lighter bikes these days. But here is my main take. If it has a 21" front wheel it is a "Dual Sport" bike. And this is way to big and heavy for a Dual Sport in my view. To me an "Adventure Bike" is a traveling bike, and that means lots of pavement. Plus, I like pavement. So, a 19" front is a must, and yes, a deal breaker for me. Also, an all new bike at this point should have tubeless rims, no excuse for that. Thanks again for a great review.
I’m 100% with you on 19” and tubless wheels. Perhaps 70-80% (if not more) of potential buyer would prefer this configuration. Pretty easy to achieve by Suzuki since they use this set up on 650 and 1000 as well.
@@paramjotsingh26 if they do that they will sell them like hot cakes. How many will take DE off road and how often anyway…it might be my personal choice (if not Aprilia 660 with cruise control)
650xt is 485pounds, 1050DE is 535pounds, 800DE is 507pounds. I own a 800DE, have a lithium battery, exhaust shop made a decat midpipe, Arrow Indy Race slip on. Weighed it at a local warehouse with a pallet scale. My bike is now, 486pounds. One pound heavier than the 650, I am fine with that. Mission Accomplished
Excellent and thorough review. Best I’ve seen yet in terms of what capabilities this bike has to offer in the dirt. How does the 800DE compare to the KTM 890 (R model)? Is the latter worth the extra expense?
Hi really enjoyed your review of DE800 im upgrading from 650xt and was considering this or a one yr old 2022 africa twin base model - question offroad is the suspension and handling better on DE800 or same due to clearance travel and adjustablity of both.
Thanks for an excellent review. Many people miss the point that many of these Twin are not hardcore Enduros (some might chose to use them that way). Additionally imo, there is a difference between value and cheap. Example, my Himalayan (with YSS suspension) is cheap BUT it doesn't have the value of the 800DE. This Suzuki looks like excellent value! Something that based off what I have seen cannot be said about the Transalp (Its cheap but im not seeing value for the type of riding i enjoy). Keep up that great reviews and look forward to more!
Hi Guys, superb review. I have one with 500klm, until now i felt a lot of heat on my seat Have to stop somethimes to refresh my b...! I felt in off-road or curvy roads, a lot of vibration on my pegs. Did you felt some of this issues? Best regards
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV from 5/5500rpm the vibration is there. Gonna see with suzuki seller the heat,(probably because airbox intake location). Many thanks
Finally! There is no need to remove fuel tank to change air filter, and screws holding air filter cover are replaced with metal bolts and nuts. A really good change since DL650.
Great review, guys. 2019 VStrom 1000XT owner here. Rode the 800 recently. I was surprised by the power delivery comapred to the 1000... for me they were very close? Very punchy engine. The bike felt lighter even though they are pretty much the same weight. The 800 also felt nimbler, more responsive. The pegs were further away from the seat which made for a more comfortable seated position and the standing position felt much better. I Thought for sure I'd feel that front wheel on the road more then I did. The dash is excellent and I love that they've used the same mode control swtiches, simple and intuitive with no BS. I was sold on the T7 for my next bike... but now that I've ridden the PStrom I'm not so sure... gonna have to ride both a few more times before I make up my mind... darn...
Great Review Guys, Well you don't have to sell me one, as I already bought one. I got the first one in San Diego! I did ride it about 4,500 miles here across country, with a little time off the beaten track through the Gila National Forest, in New Mexico. I love the Bike, but not too keen on the tires on the dirt. I'm looking at some MOTOZ tires, Motoz Dual venture for the front and Motoz Adventure for the Rear, any thoughts?
I have ridden Suzuki dirt bikes since I was 10 and stopped racing in my early 30's when the first baby was born, the last bike was 1993 RM250........This year at Daytona bike week I was in the Suzuki tent drueling over the new VStrom's! It's a completely different off road bike with the 21" front wheel. Kids are out of college and Dad needs a new bike. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for the great videos. I'm moving to Melbourne soon from Taiwan after 23years in Asia. Back to the home roots and looking forward to doing some dirt bike riding. I'll be interested to see the Honda Transalpine with costings for upgrades with how it stacks up against this. I am stuck in a CRF300 rally vs KTM 390 Adventure or spend a bit more and get a Transalp vs V-Strom 800DE conundrum. Many years riding 300cc I might be keen for a little more power but is the weight too much for someone not so used to it? I'm 6ft2, so standing up should be ok on most bikes. Thanks again for the great content!
I can feel my arm getting seriously twisted.. With an 08 vstrom 1000 and a drz400 in the shed, not doing the single track i used to and leaning more towards tar / dirt road adventuring, the CFM and T7 were looking like contenders for a "one bike" solution. This DE might land somewhere in between and be the one🤔 Great review as always gents!
Blasphemy! NOT touching the gas tank to get to the air box?? Unbelievable. Now its easier for someone to steal. Seriously, a bit of a pain but not bad at all. Over the years I have set my '14 Vee up for more dirt and with all the suspension, gearing, bars, protection, well pretty much everything- I love my bike! Its good on the hwy-even with a bit higher revs and a beast in the dirt. That already low torque the '14 has with a 10 minute gear swap makes it a ditch digger off road. It has taken me incredible places. I say its not a scalpel off road but a sledge hammer. Anything I cant pop over it bangs its way though sliding on the bash plate. You need to ride it aggressive but its a sweet thing riding back home on pavement. I like the direction with the 800. They did a good job putting needed stuff on it so the rider can tune it. Great review of a very capable, reliable bike. Its still a pretty pretty heavy though.
Great review. Real world testing. Only thing that would annoy me is the air filter access, although the aftermarket will help sort it no doubt. Good to see Sean Giles sending it!! I remember watching him ride here in NZ years ago on a Honda RC 30, bloody great rider. I think the V Strom is retailing for around 18.5k over here, not bad when compared to pure offroad bikes like my Husky Fe 350...... they should sell OK.
these presenters make it easy to evaluate how appropriate the bike is for our personal riding styles.I'd be happy with what the bike offers as stock, except that I would want cruise control and tubeless wheel/tyres for my personal tastes. Neither are yet around but I hope Suzuki listens to what many people are saying regarding these potential additions
Thanks for the vid, I am about to buy a new adv bike next to my oldie but a goodie KTM LC4 640 Adv R so really considering VStrom 800DE for more road/light dirt travel/adv bike
it's a interesting look into this bike, I've seen a few recent reviews and your the first to say it needs springs, I've been going through some of your older videos and I've got a question, how is it compared to the f850gsa bmw , because you really liked it back a couple of years ago.
I haven't ridden on of those for a long time. The 850 GSA was a good bike, but when the going got hard the forks fell through the stroke in a similar way.
Hey guys could you please give me your thoughts on the lack of chain guide on the DE, do you think this could become much of an issue off-road? I am about to purchase either the DE or the T7 but I’m leaning towards the DE as I think it is better value all round but my only concern is the lack of chain guide
Sorry guys I’m referring to the guide on the bottom of the swingarm that helps prevent the chain falling which could result in a smashed case, especially off road
It great to see your reviews of the bike being use for what they are meant for and I see you turn off all the electronic TC and ABS do they make a difference on the dirt? On my Africa twin I am not sure they do as it will still spin up with the TC would be nice to see do video showing how all work and the real benefit
My main concern is its weight, 230 kg is a lot, actually more than an Africa Twin. It still depends on the center of gravity, at the end you wanna lift it up again, not pick it up after a crash.
i went in to a dealer today and sat on the africa twin and the 800de, and to my surprise the africa twin felt heavier. Definitely more top heavy than the 800de
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Well during the video you said, you'd feel its 230 kg in certain situation, for example picking it off the ground. Have you dropped it? If so, how hard/easy was it compared let's say a Tenere 700?
For me, as good as this bike appears, it's 3 years too late. I had a 2007 Strom, did over 180,000 kms on it. I loved it on road, but off road it tried to kill me too many times. All I wanted was for Suzuki to build a better Strom. Eventually the Tenere arrived and that's what I have now. If the Tenere is half as reliable as my old Strom it will be a long time before I look at getting a new bike.
Well look on the bright side, you've witnessed the birth of a great bike. This bike is very strong competition to the T700. I know because I own one too.
Thanks, I expected the Norden Expedition to be far superior but not the standard Norden. I appreciate your feedback. Keep up the great work you are doing!
@@michaelleemhuis4501 Sorry I was thinking Expedition. Nope the Suzuki rear is better than the standard Norden. Front forks on the standard Norden are better.
I am down to the 701 Enduro, 800DE or T7 for my next bike. Just need to really think on how much and how difficult the off road I want to do is. I am coming from an R1200GSA and F800GSA. Leaning heavily towards the 701. Any input would be appreciated!
You need to test ride all of them. I love the Suzuki engine. I love the T700 engine for different reasons, The 701 is a completely different kettle of fish.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV sadly here in the US test rides aren’t allowed. I want pieces from each bike put into one! Off road ability of the 701, engine of the Suzuki and reliability of the T7! What a sweet bike that would be!
I have a Dr650 Se which is a great bike. Having had quite a few Suzuki's I really like the engines but corrosion isn't great on newer machines but the new Africa twins rust in Scotland. Still this 800 v Strom is great as is the 650 v Strom and 1000 and 1050. Suspension and balance and engine seems far better than the 700 Yamaha but the new Honda 750 transalp seems great Value too. It will be interesting to see if this parallel twin will be reliable like the old v Strom's.
many say about much engine heat and annoying vibrations.what would you say?i have deside this over transalp,but i am sceptic for these two things.its not easy to do test ride both where i live ,thats why im searching the net.thanks
Well I found the music track and loved it. Had a look at a few picks of Tennessee and thought with a smile, that's close enough. :) So S. E. Idaho it is!
Don't care if video was sponsored or not Actions speak louder than words and you guys put those bikes through there paces harder than I ever will Thanks heaps
Thank you. We've put those bikes through more than any other review on UA-cam, that rocky section was punishing and as always the go pro footage dramatically understates the reality of those challenges.
A big thumbs up to Suzuki for getting most things right for an entirely new model, particularly the fuel tank size.
The CF Moto would eat up most of the route with the exception of those rocky bits at the beginning and then you'd just go slower and pick your way through.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV ... You guys picked some gnarly terrain for this video, which is a good thing, because it really shows what the 800 VStrom can do. Maybe the CFMoto is going to be out of its element on those tracks. Maybe slightly better with a pair of Motoz Tractionator GPS 50/50 tyres fitted.
@@Jonathan-L Off road tyres for off road work always dramatically improve things.
Without going into detail this is adv bike which you can take long trip, to any terrain, without any headache.
All in all for me this is the best balanced adv bike!
Excellent on road, very capable ofroad, very versatile and reliable.
So this Suzuki it's a true definition for midweight adventure bike!
Well done SUZUKI 👍
Well said
The best, most solid and thorough reviews and tests on the web. Thank you guys!
Wow, thanks!
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV what's your take on cruise control, not needed in the dirt but seems like oversight in such a competitive market!
@@dw1168 I expect it on a bike of this capacity
Excellent video Dave and Clubby, very good useful information for those Vstrom enthusiasts and those interested in getting into the ADV market. If suspension is the only real upgrade needed out of the box and maybe tyres etc, I'd be pretty happy with that. It will be nice to see what aftermarket accessories become available. That price is insanely cheap for what you get. Nice work! Excellent all round. 👏👍🇦🇺
Thanks mate. This bike is a good thing.
I currently own a DL1000, this 800 has a high probability of being my next ride. Top stuff, boys! Cheers from Norway from a former Uni of Newcastle student. 3 of my best years, miss Oz dearly.
Good. I too ws a former Uni of Newcastle student.
I'm not familiar with you guys or your channel, but instantly a big fan! It's not just your experience and the quality of the content...it's the comments! I'm one of those that get lost in reading the comments. I can find so much information there and I highly commend you for taking the time to answer questions and respond to so many of your followers. I realize this is a huge undertaking.
Eric
Thanks Eric. As I lay in bed answering all the stuff from overnight I appreciate that.
Superbly done, I been anticipating this video for a while and you guys have delivered, I'm a KLR gen 3 owner and I can see that I'll outgrow my bike, the vstrom is an excellent contender for my next bike, cheers 🍻 🤠
Thanks
You guys have the best ADV reviews on the tube. Well done and keep it up!
Wow, thanks! Spread the word.
I thoroughly tested the 800DE a few weeks ago, off road and it is very, very good.
For the British viewers, the 1050 and 800 can be both tested off road at Suzuki Live, Cadwell Park July 15th and 16th. Well worth a visit
If you are in the market for a mid sized twin you really must ride this one.
@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV absolutely, suspension is ACE, very little pitching fore and aft as the terrain changes plus it reacts well to rapid small bumps , weight is balanced and is hidden well.
Fueling is excellent, and that's coming from someone who loves his carburettors.
All in all, an excellent mid weight bike.
@theflyingbogie
Agreed and thanks for the Cadwell info! Suzuki have knocked it out of the park with this bike.
Now, when will we see a new and updated DRZ400 return to UK showrooms please Suzuki?
Badly want Suzuki to make an FI DRZ. Maybe a crossover between a DR650 and DRZ400. Say a DRZ500fi with LED lights. My dream bike.
Thank you Suzuki for getting this bike so right! I rode one offroad the other week and it instantly felt very much in it's natural element. I agree with everything you say here in this vid (and the entertaining and informative way you put it together!)
I think the DE's gonna be another future Suzuki classic Ström with another large and loyal fanbase, might even convert a few adventure bike punters over from other manufacturers too once they've ridden one, my first impressions are it really is THAT good. Only time will tell on the reliability side, but knowing Suzuki it's gonna be more or less bulletproof. As an owner from new of a '19 650xt which I love and plan to never sell, and an '82 TS125ER which I'm currently restoring, I've got to say the 800DE has gone straight in almost to the top of my shopping list, (only behind a DRZ400S) and one will definitely be added to the growing Suzuki side of my collection whenever finances allow.
Great, great vid guys, very enjoyable, liked n subscribified cheers 👍👍
Thank you well said. And you are doing what I hoped, writing of your experiences riding the bike.
DRZ400E a must have in the garage :-)
Astonishing about the air filter access !
Compelling review … good guys.
Liked and subscribed 👍
Thanks for the sub!
Clubby & Dave, THANK YOU so much for this thorough introduction to the 800DE! It's on my shortlist. I want to come to Australia and ride!
Thanks. We are so fortunate where we live.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I agree! Is it relatively easy to rent ADV bikes in this area?
@@dwb468 Yes. Also you can hook onto some great tours.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Awesome. BTW, I own a 2021 CRF300L Rally and have really enjoyed your coverage/upgrades to that bike. If you ever find yourself in the midwestern US, we have phenomenal riding here in the Ozark Mountains. Thanks again my friend.
This is great news! I'm in line for a test ride!
That's the best thing you can do.
Great vid my Aussie cousins. Much fun and a beautiful place. Clubby did some fantastic photography. I also can't believe he didn't bend the front wheel off that rock ledge. Wow! Dave, remember the distance rule when riding with champions. Number of championships. X seconds. So at least 3 for Mr. Aussie super star. Sure he went up against Mat Maladin and several other greats behind the bars. Good adequate review. Buyers think they can just ride of in the sunset with a stock machine, and they can, but they will never know the potential or satisfy their desires if it isn't competently set up for them loaded. Great music Dave. Good job. well, from just a few miles north of Tennessee, in the hills of East Kentucky USA. You fellows take care, be safe.
Yeah got pretty close with Gilesy. I was sliding one way, he was sliding the other. You should have heard Clubby at the time. He was sure we were going to hit. He was squealing like a little pig. :) Great to hear from you Sam. I thought from other conversations you were around that vicinity.
I Love this bike so much I plan to do a 10k+ nonstop around Tanzania (onroad & offroad), and this is the bike for it. I just love riding honestly.
It was the best yet, most under rated bike of 2023. I've seriously thought of doing a build on one of these.
Typing this while watching the intro... this is the bike I have been waiting for to finally replace the old DR.
The DR is a completely different beast. But this will take you on the more outback adventures comfortably. I wouldn't be selling the DR. I'd be keeping it for the real tough stuff, unless you're growing out of the tough stuff.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV bloody hell thats some genuinely honest advice, much appreciated. I love the DR but you'd be hard pressed to say she's a pretty thing. Most of my riding is mining tracks and highways.... but sometimes it gets a bit rowdy and the DR takes a beating
A great job, like always!
Thank you! Cheers!
Clubby & Dave!!! Thx for this video!!! Very inspirational!!!! LOVE IT!!!!
Glad you enjoyed it. Great fun to film.
I gotta tell you....If the engineers thought of that for the air cleaner screws, imagine how everything else is put together...Gives me a warm feeling right there....
Me too.
If I sold my T7 and bought the 800DE, what would I miss on the T7 and gain from the 800DE? Thanks and great review!
Traction control, fuel range, lower centre of gravity even though I think it weighs more.
Great to see Sean Giles on here. Remember watching him at Queensland Raceway in the mid 2000s.
Nice bloke
There are so many bikes on the market it’s nice you take the time to bring us your valued opinion on them. Looking at the last video frame you can get your feet pretty high off the ground. That definitely was not expected 🍻
Lots of expectations broken
Fantastic video. I've been thinking about trading in my Vstrom650 for this. You're really twisting my arm lol. Probably the best review video I've seen on it and loved how you guys really put the bike thru it's paces off road.
Thank youy.
That's torn it.
No more doubting and hesitating. The jury has a verdict; as surprising as it may seem.
The 800de is the 'Right Bike'.
It's a cracking bike.
I ride this bike yesterday, just brilliant, previously owned a 2015 DL 1000, the difference is night and day, at last Suzuki, it’s about time…
Couldn't agree more!
That was fantastic 👏 👌 I want one 🎉😮😊
You and me both!
No doubt another premium quality Japenese build , sounds like winner long term bank account balances. The often overlooked very important information is the stranded in the middle of nowhere findings of some brands . The Ol some brands media comment, its a tried and true marketing dollar dodge ball lyric. So glad to hear your reveiw of a cracker bike by the looks of it .
It's a strong competitor to what is a competitive class. There are some cracking bikes in the mid sized twin category. I've ridden just about all of them extensively. Consumers really are spoilt for choice.
I'm really glad to see reviewers pull the bike apart to show how living with maintaining the bike will be. Very encouraging to see Suzuki engineering....geez if only cruise control....this would be my adventure bike and cheaper alternative to the Norden. I"m unrealistically hoping that Suzuki pulls that off as an optional accessory.
Yeah, a lot of people are disappointed there is no cruise control
I own a Tenere 700 and I test rode the V-Strom 800DE. I was curious about the additional 23 kg (both dry weight) compared to the Tenere 700. What immediately caught my attention is how low the motorcycle sits. Everything is lower compared to the Tenere, including the handlebar, seat, everything. Naturally, this results in a much lower seat height, which may be somewhat uncomfortable for taller individuals (I am 183cm(6ft) with a 90cm(35.4inch) inseam, but this can be solved with a higher seat. I only rode the motorcycle on paved roads and I have to say that the V-Strom feels incredibly stable and provides a COMPLETELY different sensation compared to the Tenere. Of course, you don't notice the extra 23 kg on the road, and because all the weight is situated so low, the motorcycle is very stable in comparison to the Tenere, which tends to sway in various directions at slow speed maneuvers. Low speed maneuvers are also much easier compared to the Tenere. The controls also operate much smoother and more directly compared to the Tenere, including the clutch, throttle response, and brakes. Another thing that caught my attention is the rear brake. With the Tenere you really have to push hard to slow down, whereas the V-Strom's rear brake is much stronger and way more responsive. The tires that were on the V-Strom were the standard tires, which are more road-oriented, so that may have also played in favor of the V-Strom. Overall, the V-Strom performs much better than the Tenere on paved roads. If I were mainly riding on paved roads I would choose the V-Strom. The testride ride convinced me of that..
Thank you. Your observations equate with my experience. And on the dirt it handles very well and more than matches the Tenere.
This or ktm 790 adventure 2023? Have rested ride this?
Matches the T7, that’s a bold statement. I’m looking at the T7 but it’s tall, was thinking about the Suzuki but was worried about the extra weight
The old V-Storm is a great touring bike terrible off road. The new 800 looks very interesting! It’s about the suspension and wet weight. The engine looks the goods-smooth, power where you need it and it will be super reliable Suzuki!
Nothing like the old V-strom
My 650XT does surprisingly well off-road (if by off-road you mean dirt and gravel roads). Yes, I can bottom out the forks if I'm not careful, but big deal. Neither bike is suitable for trails, due to the weight.
Thank god (and Suzuki of course 😅)...the Suzuki-Fans have a new on-/offroad-cracker...😊 so you two guys see, Nugget never told you lies about Suzuki...😅... i'm sure, this one is going to be ohne of his favorites...😊 ... i'm really looking forward to a Nugget-test as well...a dream comes true...thank you Dave and Clubby for that fantastic video...i'd like to see more of that...best wishes from West-Germany to Australia from Felix 😊
Felix, Nugget came over to sit on it and he liked it.
Absolutely love it! Perfect for South African overlanding and touring. Japanese quality and reliability. Great review Aussie brothers!
Thanks for watching!
A very good and helpful review. Besides the air filter access this looks like a great bike , I’m throwing around getting rid of my DR and looking into one of these bikes in the future. So far this bike looks like it can actually handle some hard trails and still be better on the street than a duel sport
Glad it was helpful! It is a good bike.
Great review, its good you mention you ride harder than the average rider because it means the bike has been tested well. Not just a lap around the block.
Would you consider doing a 800 project bike? Not the most popular bike but this new model seems to have plenty of dirt orientated adv potential…
I would love to make this 800 a project bike. Once people kick their leg over and ride them I think they are going to get very popular very quickly.
Do it! I pick mine up saturday!
Here due to the 2024 V-Strom 800RE,the lower,19/17" wheeled version...Suzuki has nailed it! Hope you're doing EICMA?
The bike looks extremely interesting, but the lack of cruise control kills it, some of us have to ride long miles to get to the adventure. And if you want to go really far for adventure you're not gonna use twisties to get to your destination 3000km away.
Yeah it’s a pretty big deal breaker. Hard to understand it not even being an add on option.
Yes I appreciate that's important for many.
Cruise control. 🤣
One foot in the grave and Ultraglide keys in his pocket.
Back in my day electric start was a luxury.
@@MrHSIE I remember back when I used voice commands to help start the bike. After many failed attempts to get the bike to fire, the phrase "c'mon start ya bastard" seemed to do the trick :)
A throttle lock will easily solve this for long hauls. I actually prefer my lock over cruise control because it's is effortless to engage
Look, I live in Tennessee. Love it here. Some of the best roads and mountains in the world only, in my opinion. Just bought a suzuki v-strom 800DE. What an awesome bike. Thank you for a great video. Just make me feel I made the right choice for sure. Stay safe. If you ever make it to Tennessee, let me know, and we'll go on some of the best rides in the world. Cheers, mate's
A great bike. Just loved the song even though I’m told looks nothing like Tennessee. Thanks for the kind offer.
Very welcome please stay safe
Thorough and enjoyable look at the 800 DE fellas. 👍
As a shorter rider would I trade off my 890 Adventure S, no. But, if I didn’t have the 890 I’d be looking at the 800DE pretty seriously I think. The height would be the biggest negative, especially like you said if suspension work is done.
Cracking job!
The 890 is far more superior in the dirt with it's excellent suspension.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV but not the S model, only 2023 model added some adjustments to the suspension of S model, but it is still pretty much street oriented
Great review 😊
Thank you
You need to make a video of a de 800 week trip with a fue de 800s there's not much footage like that iv done some good mods to mine the more you do and more I rode it the better it gets I just love it
Cool idea
Great vid and review of this new bike, cheers!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi Dave,
Looks like Suzuki are on a good thing.
The ride looked good, any chance on getting the route you took 😊
Yep the bike is a good thing. We have never provided the route but in the video provide hints. That's the way we roll.
Nice review, liked the more in-depth coverage of the filter accessibility and the suspension adjustment attention. Now, I've been hoping for an Aprilia Tuareg 660 follow up, and rarely hear it's mention w/ the Austrian and Japanese mid-rangers. Is there a reason for that, other than it's 660cc's and Aprilia lack of dealer presence? Love your videos, keep up the great work.
There is a lot of coverage of the Tuareg 660 on UA-cam.
On this channel (MAD TV) there is a very positive 2000km review. Then there is Ian from Big Rock Moto who actually owns one and has a 6 episode in-detail review.
Or you could check out "On the back wheel" for an in depth hard-offroad review of the Tuareg.
I myself have done 11500 km on my Tuareg now and I am still in love with it :) But I live in Europe, where the dealer network for Aprilia is not an issue.
@@chukku2175 hey yeah you're right, I watched 2 years of YT's on the Tuareg before I bought the bike (no dealer w/in 300+ miles til a couple months ago). I have the vaguest of memories that Dave said they'd do a little more in-depth review still, don't really know that I need it anymore, lol. But like in this video, when they compare it to the other mid-range motos, I'd love to hear the Tuareg mentioned somewhere in the queue. I really love these guys, and the Aussies have hands down the most brilliant riding roads and trails and I find their reviews so battle tested.
We've done a detailed 2000 k review, search this channel. The Tuareg is a brilliant bike.
No, we did it Young Geezer. You must have missed it.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV LOL, yeh I've watched it a # of times. Maybe it was just so smooth and supportive that I thought you might have said you'd be putting it through the wringer in a next review. Hahaha. O well. I just always love your content, and since I now own a Tuareg, I just want to keep hearing how great it is - you know? Hahaha. thanks for the reply
As always, a big thanks to you guys for a great review.
Our pleasure! Spread the word.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Was wondering if you noticed any dirt issues with the 17 rear?
@@toddwmac Nothing. Works fine. Just road the Beemer 900 it's the same setup.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Thanks!
I prefer the reviews from the Australians over most, as they tend to take the bikes out onto some trails for what a dual sport bike was made to do. I don't blame other reviewers as they are limited as to where they can go and what the bike owners will allow them to do.
Well from my perspective it's not a review if you don't actually ride the bike on a decent ride.
So keen to get a ride on one of these. Fantastic video footage and review.
Does the new 800 feel any smaller than the KTM 1090/1190's?
Not really
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV cheers. Maybe I'll just stick with the big Kato. Can't afford a new 890.
Good review & the DE is going to be one to watch for on the resale market for us less financial aspirants in a year or two. 🖖
Agree.
It's in my final 4 for last bike. Getting old here. VSTROM 800, KTM 890, Aprilia Tuareg 660, Suzuki DR 650, Kawasaki KLR 650.
This review, and others like it, have pretty much told me this is a T-7 alternative and I'm liking it. Now all I need is money.
I think this bike is greatly underrated.
This is a great review, thanks guys! For me if I had to decide between the original 650 Strom and this bike there is no doubt it would be the 650. Everybody has their own likes, of course. I've been riding all kinds of bikes for, lets' say decades. I am gravitating to lighter bikes these days. But here is my main take. If it has a 21" front wheel it is a "Dual Sport" bike. And this is way to big and heavy for a Dual Sport in my view. To me an "Adventure Bike" is a traveling bike, and that means lots of pavement. Plus, I like pavement. So, a 19" front is a must, and yes, a deal breaker for me. Also, an all new bike at this point should have tubeless rims, no excuse for that. Thanks again for a great review.
Thanks for your thoughts. The tubeless vs tubed debate.. I'm ambivalent on this one for where I ride and I always carry a tube.
I’m 100% with you on 19” and tubless wheels. Perhaps 70-80% (if not more) of potential buyer would prefer this configuration. Pretty easy to achieve by Suzuki since they use this set up on 650 and 1000 as well.
Well there are rumours of Suzuki making a non DE version with alloys (probably a 19 front) and tubeless tyres.
@@paramjotsingh26 if they do that they will sell them like hot cakes. How many will take DE off road and how often anyway…it might be my personal choice (if not Aprilia 660 with cruise control)
650xt is 485pounds, 1050DE is 535pounds, 800DE is 507pounds. I own a 800DE, have a lithium battery, exhaust shop made a decat midpipe, Arrow Indy Race slip on. Weighed it at a local warehouse with a pallet scale. My bike is now, 486pounds. One pound heavier than the 650, I am fine with that. Mission Accomplished
Excellent and thorough review. Best I’ve seen yet in terms of what capabilities this bike has to offer in the dirt. How does the 800DE compare to the KTM 890 (R model)? Is the latter worth the extra expense?
Good question! That's why I ask it at the end. What your paying for is top of the line suspension and electronics.
Hi really enjoyed your review of DE800 im upgrading from 650xt and was considering this or a one yr old 2022 africa twin base model - question offroad is the suspension and handling better on DE800 or same due to clearance travel and adjustablity of both.
Thanks Dave and clubby for your review on the bike just wondering if an18" rear wheel be a better option on the bike
nope, it''s great the way. it is.
Great review.
Merci pour cette belle vidéo! Après quelques réflexions, j'ai choisi cette Suzuki. Je vais la chercher dans 3 jours. J'ai hâte !
Bonne route !
>O
Je pense que c'est une moto merveilleuse avec un excellent moteur et une excellente maniabilité. Vous apprécierez votre nouveau trajet.
How do you think this bike compares to a Tenere 700?
I guess they are built for the same purpose and roughly the same price!
Very, very competitively. I would urge anyone considering buying a bike to ride the DE.
@@bradsanders6954agreed, I’ll keep the Tenere.
@@verbalwidget7267 I have a T7 also. Where do you think the T7 shines over the 800? Thx
Thanks for an excellent review. Many people miss the point that many of these Twin are not hardcore Enduros (some might chose to use them that way). Additionally imo, there is a difference between value and cheap. Example, my Himalayan (with YSS suspension) is cheap BUT it doesn't have the value of the 800DE. This Suzuki looks like excellent value! Something that based off what I have seen cannot be said about the Transalp (Its cheap but im not seeing value for the type of riding i enjoy).
Keep up that great reviews and look forward to more!
Very good points. There is value here, although I don't mind riding around on a Himalayan....particularly in the Himalayas.
Nice review Dave. Nice little middle weight.
Exactly
Great video guys - couldn't quite catch what you said - but what's the name of that seat bag ? thanks
Giant Loop Diablo
Hi Guys, superb review. I have one with 500klm, until now i felt a lot of heat on my seat Have to stop somethimes to refresh my b...! I felt in off-road or curvy roads, a lot of vibration on my pegs. Did you felt some of this issues? Best regards
I certainly didn't feel any heat fromthe seat. I didn't feel any vibration but Clubby did if he revved the bike hard and kept it in high revs.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV from 5/5500rpm the vibration is there. Gonna see with suzuki seller the heat,(probably because airbox intake location). Many thanks
Finally! There is no need to remove fuel tank to change air filter, and screws holding air filter cover are replaced with metal bolts and nuts. A really good change since DL650.
Yay!
Thanks guys very much enjoyed your review of the new Suzuki 800-do you have any upcoming reviews of the KOVE 450 rally
Nope, no word of them hitting Australia yet.
Another top video from the MAD Boys 😂 💪💯
Thank you.
Great review, guys. 2019 VStrom 1000XT owner here. Rode the 800 recently. I was surprised by the power delivery comapred to the 1000... for me they were very close? Very punchy engine. The bike felt lighter even though they are pretty much the same weight. The 800 also felt nimbler, more responsive. The pegs were further away from the seat which made for a more comfortable seated position and the standing position felt much better. I Thought for sure I'd feel that front wheel on the road more then I did. The dash is excellent and I love that they've used the same mode control swtiches, simple and intuitive with no BS.
I was sold on the T7 for my next bike... but now that I've ridden the PStrom I'm not so sure... gonna have to ride both a few more times before I make up my mind... darn...
I don't think you could go wrong with this one.
What tires are Y'all using ? Good review ThX !
Pirelli STRs
Super review. This bike is a peach. As for Cruise Control, at least give it as an optional upgrade. Damnit Suzuki, you missed a trick.
Fair enough!
Great Review Guys, Well you don't have to sell me one, as I already bought one. I got the first one in San Diego! I did ride it about 4,500 miles here across country, with a little time off the beaten track through the Gila National Forest, in New Mexico. I love the Bike, but not too keen on the tires on the dirt. I'm looking at some MOTOZ tires, Motoz Dual venture for the front and Motoz Adventure for the Rear, any thoughts?
Rear isn't as important as the front to me.
I have ridden Suzuki dirt bikes since I was 10 and stopped racing in my early 30's when the first baby was born, the last bike was 1993 RM250........This year at Daytona bike week I was in the Suzuki tent drueling over the new VStrom's! It's a completely different off road bike with the 21" front wheel. Kids are out of college and Dad needs a new bike. Thanks for the video!
You're life's timing is about the same as mine but I'm ahead of you.
Thanks for the great videos. I'm moving to Melbourne soon from Taiwan after 23years in Asia. Back to the home roots and looking forward to doing some dirt bike riding. I'll be interested to see the Honda Transalpine with costings for upgrades with how it stacks up against this. I am stuck in a CRF300 rally vs KTM 390 Adventure or spend a bit more and get a Transalp vs V-Strom 800DE conundrum. Many years riding 300cc I might be keen for a little more power but is the weight too much for someone not so used to it? I'm 6ft2, so standing up should be ok on most bikes. Thanks again for the great content!
Thank you
I just dropped my bike off to Clive last week! Small world
There you go.
I can feel my arm getting seriously twisted.. With an 08 vstrom 1000 and a drz400 in the shed, not doing the single track i used to and leaning more towards tar / dirt road adventuring, the CFM and T7 were looking like contenders for a "one bike" solution. This DE might land somewhere in between and be the one🤔
Great review as always gents!
Go and ride one.
Blasphemy! NOT touching the gas tank to get to the air box?? Unbelievable. Now its easier for someone to steal. Seriously, a bit of a pain but not bad at all. Over the years I have set my '14 Vee up for more dirt and with all the suspension, gearing, bars, protection, well pretty much everything- I love my bike! Its good on the hwy-even with a bit higher revs and a beast in the dirt. That already low torque the '14 has with a 10 minute gear swap makes it a ditch digger off road. It has taken me incredible places. I say its not a scalpel off road but a sledge hammer. Anything I cant pop over it bangs its way though sliding on the bash plate. You need to ride it aggressive but its a sweet thing riding back home on pavement. I like the direction with the 800. They did a good job putting needed stuff on it so the rider can tune it. Great review of a very capable, reliable bike. Its still a pretty pretty heavy though.
Thanks mate a decent insight into the world of V-Strom
Were those the stock tyres? if not what did suzuki put on for you?
As we always do, we requested off road tyres. They were Pirelli STRs. We would prefer Pirelli Scorpion Rallys which are more dirt biased.
I removed my air filter on my DE with out removing battery just a longer screw driver. Took me about 8 minutes.
Clubby got to the airfilter in the same time as you.
Another cracker vid guys. Answered all questions other than, cruise control availability?
I'm not aware of cruise control for this bike.
Great review. Real world testing. Only thing that would annoy me is the air filter access, although the aftermarket will help sort it no doubt. Good to see Sean Giles sending it!! I remember watching him ride here in NZ years ago on a Honda RC 30, bloody great rider. I think the V Strom is retailing for around 18.5k over here, not bad when compared to pure offroad bikes like my Husky Fe 350...... they should sell OK.
Thanks Richard. Put on a bashplate and some alloy hand guards and definitely some heated grips and be headed to Naseby in the South Island.
Nice review Dave
Glad you enjoyed it. It’s a good bike.
these presenters make it easy to evaluate how appropriate the bike is for our personal riding styles.I'd be happy with what the bike offers as stock, except that I would want cruise control and tubeless wheel/tyres for my personal tastes. Neither are yet around but I hope Suzuki listens to what many people are saying regarding these potential additions
Cruise control appears to be the big one.
Thanks for the vid, I am about to buy a new adv bike next to my oldie but a goodie KTM LC4 640 Adv R so really considering VStrom 800DE for more road/light dirt travel/adv bike
Good combo
it's a interesting look into this bike, I've seen a few recent reviews and your the first to say it needs springs, I've been going through some of your older videos and I've got a question, how is it compared to the f850gsa bmw , because you really liked it back a couple of years ago.
I haven't ridden on of those for a long time. The 850 GSA was a good bike, but when the going got hard the forks fell through the stroke in a similar way.
Great review, I hope Suzuky makes a 650DE too.
I can't see that happening.
Curious to know your guys opinion on how the Vstrom compares to the old Crf1000l AT, Spec sheets put the two bikes very close together in weight.
Both big twins that handle well and have great engine power delivery for adventure
Hey guys could you please give me your thoughts on the lack of chain guide on the DE, do you think this could become much of an issue off-road? I am about to purchase either the DE or the T7 but I’m leaning towards the DE as I think it is better value all round but my only concern is the lack of chain guide
You can buy an oem chain guard.
Sorry guys I’m referring to the guide on the bottom of the swingarm that helps prevent the chain falling which could result in a smashed case, especially off road
Bring it on.... now where's the popcorn 🤠👍
Get popcorn now, or beer, or beverage, you'll be spending 33 mins with me :)
It great to see your reviews of the bike being use for what they are meant for and I see you turn off all the electronic TC and ABS do they make a difference on the dirt? On my Africa twin I am not sure they do as it will still spin up with the TC would be nice to see do video showing how all work and the real benefit
The traction control, abs and engine power settings are so different on different bikes it would drive me mad to do that video :)
Great video 👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it
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Which model is better of all these?(Tenere 700, v strom 800 DE, ktm 790 adventure 2023?) Which one would you choose?
Depends on about ten things. Right now, I don't know.
My main concern is its weight, 230 kg is a lot, actually more than an Africa Twin. It still depends on the center of gravity, at the end you wanna lift it up again, not pick it up after a crash.
It doesn't feel it. It hides its weight well.
i went in to a dealer today and sat on the africa twin and the 800de, and to my surprise the africa twin felt heavier. Definitely more top heavy than the 800de
@@slakk5093 The DE hides it's weight well.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Well during the video you said, you'd feel its 230 kg in certain situation, for example picking it off the ground.
Have you dropped it? If so, how hard/easy was it compared let's say a Tenere 700?
@@Hibbicon I didn't drop it, but I own a Tenere and that feels a lot more top heavy.
For me, as good as this bike appears, it's 3 years too late. I had a 2007 Strom, did over 180,000 kms on it. I loved it on road, but off road it tried to kill me too many times. All I wanted was for Suzuki to build a better Strom. Eventually the Tenere arrived and that's what I have now. If the Tenere is half as reliable as my old Strom it will be a long time before I look at getting a new bike.
Well look on the bright side, you've witnessed the birth of a great bike. This bike is very strong competition to the T700. I know because I own one too.
Did you boys turn off tc totally most of the time or try gravel? Its not bad!
Wasn't impressed with gravel.
Ride this today . . . Awesome .
Good to hear. That's what we thought. It's a solid bike.
G'day Dave, how does the suspension compare to a standard Norden 901?
The Norden suspension is in another league.
Thanks, I expected the Norden Expedition to be far superior but not the standard Norden. I appreciate your feedback. Keep up the great work you are doing!
@@michaelleemhuis4501 Sorry I was thinking Expedition. Nope the Suzuki rear is better than the standard Norden. Front forks on the standard Norden are better.
Thanks, so a $21,000 run out price 22 built Norden with an upgraded rear shock would be a pretty good compromise!
@@michaelleemhuis4501 Yes but Haggle hard.
I am down to the 701 Enduro, 800DE or T7 for my next bike. Just need to really think on how much and how difficult the off road I want to do is. I am coming from an R1200GSA and F800GSA. Leaning heavily towards the 701. Any input would be appreciated!
You need to test ride all of them. I love the Suzuki engine. I love the T700 engine for different reasons, The 701 is a completely different kettle of fish.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV sadly here in the US test rides aren’t allowed. I want pieces from each bike put into one! Off road ability of the 701, engine of the Suzuki and reliability of the T7! What a sweet bike that would be!
A dream.......lliterally.@@j-Photography
If it came down to the 800DE or the T7, which would you pick?@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
The real question price aside- which is the absolute best mid sized Adv,? The 890 R, 901E, 800DE, Tuareg, T7? We know it’s not the Transalp.
Very competitive
For à rider that does 70% highway and 30% off road wich bike would you choose between 800de , the expédition 901 and à tiger rally 900 ???? Thx
The answer to that question would take me a thousand words. They are all good. 900 has the best rider protection from buffetting.
I have a Dr650 Se which is a great bike. Having had quite a few Suzuki's I really like the engines but corrosion isn't great on newer machines but the new Africa twins rust in Scotland. Still this 800 v Strom is great as is the 650 v Strom and 1000 and 1050. Suspension and balance and engine seems far better than the 700 Yamaha but the new Honda 750 transalp seems great Value too. It will be interesting to see if this parallel twin will be reliable like the old v Strom's.
I bet you they are.
many say about much engine heat and annoying vibrations.what would you say?i have deside this over transalp,but i am sceptic for these two things.its not easy to do test ride both where i live ,thats why im searching the net.thanks
vibrations are at high revs and minimal. didn't notice the heat, but it was cool when we rode.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV thanks mate.cheers from greece!
More like S.E Idaho, but that’s okay! Great information, thx! Love your channel!
Well I found the music track and loved it. Had a look at a few picks of Tennessee and thought with a smile, that's close enough. :) So S. E. Idaho it is!
A bit early, but having to disconnect battery before checking filter.... The level of filtering sensitivity and water resistance is common .
It's OK I suppose.