I have a deposit on one of those (here in Spain are not available yet) and love to see your videos and your impressions. Just a normal bike guy thinking out loud about the bike. Also love your attitude, keep the great work and greetings from Barcelona!
Great video that answers a lot of questions. Thank you for sharing and congratulations on having the foresight to rent and display this long awaited motorcycle. How many drivers from 6:05 because of such 'blind drivers' I am looking for an off-road bike
Thank you! I got lucky I could rent mt450! It was great time, hate to bring it back. I think I’ll get one for myself later! Unfortunately drivers like that are quite ubiquitous here, we have to be very careful!
Excellent!!, it's good that you have fun with the motorcycle. The data is very very interesting! A recommendation: Protect your feet better! Greetings from Argentina! 💪
Thank you! I have something approximating motorcycle shoes, but you’re right, they aren’t good enough, is there any model you can recommend? Which is also comfortable
@@eddywave3315 There are many good brands but it is something very personal. A dresser for me is probably not a dresser for you. Pay attention that it protects your ankle well and if you are going to do offroad I would say that you go for high boots with protection on the shin.
I love the fact we are getting reviews straight out of China, seriously. That is really something. Regarding your wheelie practice.... I recommend you try in second gear with clutch. First gear with clutch can be dangerous. If you practice in second gear at least you can ride it out a little further before the revs get too high. I appreciate the fact that you covered two items that are specially of interest to me... Top speed and wheelie capability. I do like this bike and I recently put a deposit on one. It is supposed to arrive in August in the USA. But I will have to test drive it I am not sure I am sold yet. I already ordered a 2024 Honda Africa twin and I am super excited about that. I also test road the Yamaha tenere 700 and I really liked it. The CF 450 Moto does seem like an excellent bike but I'm just not sure it is going to allow me the top end speed I would like on the highway.
Thank you for your comment! Regarding wheelies, I tried second gear wheelies on MT450 but it was very hard to bring it up. I can lift the wheel just a little bit, so I found a safe place to do first gear high wheelies. I do second ones on my 800NK though) It’s very important for me to see what I did here was useful for you! Honda and Yamaha are great motorcycles! T700 was a bike of my friend when we were kids, we rode a lot on it). You should definitely try it before your order, I’m very curious to see what you have to say about it! Keep in touch, hope to hear from you soon 🤝
@@eddywave3315 D'ont try wheelies in second. Start traing wheelies while riding uphill. Moderate steep hill is perfect. for this. In Principle you don't need a lot of clutchaction. ALWAYS have your foot on the rearbrake pedal then just roll slowly an blip the clutch with some revs. So you can find the best inputs.
Nice video! I think the tires make a big difference - the bike is definitely better for off road though it’s good in the city but I think the stock tires aren’t good for pavement, seems like they wear quickly based on the ones I’ve seen around my city (Kunming). BTW Dizimini - I just rode the new NX400 by Honda -! Really nice bike with a few new things compared to the 400X. I wanted to test the Triumph 400 speed but they didn’t have any so I happened upon the new Honda - definitely a top contender to consider.
Tires aren’t the best if you’re trying to get 100% of it’s potential, but I really feel good doing my stuff with these tires, but I agree, if you want to improve it to the max, you can get the other set of tires! I haven’t ridden NX400, but now I’m curious. Maybe I’ll check on it 🤜🤛
Ah that’s better without the music. Great job. Cool to get a beginners opinion instead of the typical reviews by bike mag writers. This bike sounds vicious for a 450. If they were available where I am in British Columbia I would be riding one right now although from what I hear they are going to be quite expensive when they do come to Canada. Honesty if they end up in the same range as Japanese competitors over here I don’t think they will do well. For a Chinese bike to compete with the big boys they are going to have to be substantially cheaper.
Thank you! This is why I decided to make these videos, I was curious how an average guy would feel riding these) It does sound great! I think these CFmotos are getting better and better in every aspect, but you’re right, if the price is the same with Japanese bikes, people will not buy it. In China it’s 4400$, and I can’t believe how much of a motorcycle you get for this money! Please let me know when it gets to Canada, I’m so curious to see how much it will cost 🤝
What would be the estimated fuel range like when cruising at 100-110kmh ? I am asking as planning to use it as travelling bike in the future. A 350km fuel range when cruising 100-110kmh would be excellence!
The CF is a really good motorcycle but the gears are very short and on the highway you almost reach the rev limiter. After the first service you should replace the 14 tooth motor pinion with a 15 tooth one. This costs minimal torque but noticeably reduces the engine speed by 7%
Probably this engine can give more power at 5 and 6 gear but will need to be remapped. One little tip for you, in order to get the max speed one needs to get the highest torque at the right revs, but eventually each gear has to be squeezed at its max, hence max revs. Try it next time and likely the bike will fly faster
This bike seem to have really short gear, it's more offroad oriented. I don't know if there is room to install a 140/80 tyre at the rear. In my country seem impossible to find a 140/70. Only that will give you a 4% longer, adding 6/7more km/h and lowering rpm at the same speed
I do it when I measure acceleration, this time I was focusing my attention on top speed, so I didn’t shift in the most optimal way, but still tried to do it nicely. I think my shifting didn’t influence the top speed! But thank you for the tip🤜🤛
That is a pretty respectable top speed for a 450 Adventure bike, why do people think it should do more? The Himalayan 450, Triumph Scrambler 400X and KTM 390 Adventure all do about 160km/h too. Their clocks might read 5km/h higher than the MT but I guarantee their GPS speed is much closer to what you achieved. GPS speed is accurate, clock speeds are not, I've seen up to 10% errors in clock speed. The MT's clock speed is actually surprisingly accurate. Why would anyone buy a new bike and then spend extra money and do stupid things to their new bike to get an extra 5 or 6km/h and shorten the life of their motorcycle in the process. For those chasing speed, buy a bigger sport bike, adventure bikes are not about speed. The wheelies are coming along nicely!
I can’t agree more with what you said!!! Personally for me it would be fine even if it would go up to only 140, I loved MT800 but it’s so much heavier and with my set of skills I have to think about to many things! This 450 is light and fun! I often find myself chilling to the extent where I forget I’m riding ) it’s great for what I like, and I think people would love it too! Thank you, I try to keep my wheelies up! Still scary but I see the progress
My only wonder here is that will the big four japanese companies finally make 400 to 450cc bikes now that they see that there is a huge market of people just wanting these smaller "big bikes". I am interested to know what they'll answer to this 450 market.
The problem in my opinion, is that Japanese small cc engines aren’t as fun/powerful as this 270 degree 2cylinder one. I think they need to build up a new engine from the scratch to hold up. What do you think?
@@eddywave3315 in someway i agree with you. maybe that's the why they haven't. they have to make a new engine instead of just putting an existing design in a different model. However... in the sense of "powerful or fun" i doubt many seekers of 400cc bikes are really in it for power or speed. I hear honda already has an nx400 i mean all they have to do is release it globally right?
as you say in another video from another guy he reached 170Km/h around 10000rpm. you seem limited around 9400rpm,. there is a setting for that, i mean a rpm limiter you can change? thanks!
that was a preproduction bike sent to greece, probably without the locked ECU, if the chinese version with 44hp is like this then the euro5 version with 41hp should be a little weaker.
You can put different sprocket if you need higher top speed and lower rpm, but this is very well configured and have fun short gears with top speed of 150-160kmh. 44HP is enough to reach about 180kmh but you need longer gears then. E.g. Honda CB500X has little bit longer gears with similar power. But I think shorter gears are better and more fun, you can still ride at 120-140kmh at the highway on 450MT. More rpm the better :)
Esta motocicleta está ficando unanime na escolha dessa cilindrada e categoria no mundo todo. Batendo de frente com a Tenere e Honda. Pelo preço e qualidade. Muitos ainda têm preconceito infelizmente por ser chinesa. Mas é indiscutível a qualidade do produto. A Tenere tem seu nome feito. Mas a CFMOTO acertou que muitos querem motos mais baixas e inicarem no mundo off-road. Menos por vezes é mais. E a bom preço. Então o mundo está apreciando muito as baixas cilindradas. Muito visível e claro esse crescimento. No Brasil Então nem te conto.
In China Tenere will cost more than 3 times the price of 450mt, so the choice is obvious! I heard that in some countries the price of 450mt is very high, so I’m not sure whether I would have considered mt450 if it was twice the price, but in China, so far it might be my favorite bike in this price range
@@eddywave3315 bom. Na verdade ainda não sei. A 450MT chegou a Portugal por 6500 euros. Talvez um pouco menos em dólares. Não sei se já há dela nos Estados Unidos da América. Mas no Brasil se chegar, já se estima o valor a partir de 37 mil reais. O que daria uma conversão certa e direta em euros. Contudo, ela seria a motocicleta bicilindrica mais barata do Brasil. E iria fazer a Honda e a Yamaha que não trouxe ainda motos nessa faixa, arrancarem os cabelos. O bom que a CFMOTO já opera muito bem seus quadriciclos aqui. Então já tem muitas lojas nesse país tão grande em território. Nada demais pra Honda que é líder aqui. Porém já assusta e já toma mercado da tão querida CB 500x ou a nova NX500 Honda.
Rubish, honda cb500x/nx500 has a top speed of 180 downhill, 170 on flat ground, suspension... softer on the honda, more travel on the cf but very harsh. Jerky fueling. Good luck for long term abuse....
Fuelling is solved with new Ecu update. CF Moto is a proper off-road machine, the Honda is not. Built for different purposes. Who cares with top speed, on such small bikes 120-130 is real cruising speed max.
Great to see my next bike in action! Greetings from Ireland
Shout out to Ireland! You won’t be disappointed!
I have a deposit on one of those (here in Spain are not available yet) and love to see your videos and your impressions. Just a normal bike guy thinking out loud about the bike. Also love your attitude, keep the great work and greetings from Barcelona!
Thank you for your comment! I appreciate it🤝
I hope it comes ASAP to Spain, and shout out to Barcelona 🤜🤛
What is the price? In Turkey they dont sell yet
I wasn't even expecting part 3 bro 🔥🔥
I just can’t get enough of this bike) hope you enjoy it 🤜🤛
This is the part I am interested. good job bro!
I appreciate it bro! Happy to see you liked it ✊🤜🤛
Another great video! Thanks.
Thank you for watching! I’m glad you enjoyed it 🤜🤛
Great video that answers a lot of questions. Thank you for sharing and congratulations on having the foresight to rent and display this long awaited motorcycle. How many drivers from 6:05 because of such 'blind drivers' I am looking for an off-road bike
Thank you! I got lucky I could rent mt450! It was great time, hate to bring it back. I think I’ll get one for myself later!
Unfortunately drivers like that are quite ubiquitous here, we have to be very careful!
Excellent!!, it's good that you have fun with the motorcycle. The data is very very interesting! A recommendation: Protect your feet better! Greetings from Argentina! 💪
Thank you! I have something approximating motorcycle shoes, but you’re right, they aren’t good enough, is there any model you can recommend? Which is also comfortable
@@eddywave3315 There are many good brands but it is something very personal. A dresser for me is probably not a dresser for you. Pay attention that it protects your ankle well and if you are going to do offroad I would say that you go for high boots with protection on the shin.
100-110 Km/h is more than fine for me (city , traffic , twisties roads , Touring and Off road)
Agreed! Acceleration is far more important for a bike like that! It’s pure joy to ride!
Nah. It should do 130 atleast.
And it does@@thunderbear0
I love the fact we are getting reviews straight out of China, seriously. That is really something. Regarding your wheelie practice.... I recommend you try in second gear with clutch. First gear with clutch can be dangerous. If you practice in second gear at least you can ride it out a little further before the revs get too high. I appreciate the fact that you covered two items that are specially of interest to me... Top speed and wheelie capability. I do like this bike and I recently put a deposit on one. It is supposed to arrive in August in the USA. But I will have to test drive it I am not sure I am sold yet. I already ordered a 2024 Honda Africa twin and I am super excited about that. I also test road the Yamaha tenere 700 and I really liked it. The CF 450 Moto does seem like an excellent bike but I'm just not sure it is going to allow me the top end speed I would like on the highway.
Thank you for your comment!
Regarding wheelies, I tried second gear wheelies on MT450 but it was very hard to bring it up. I can lift the wheel just a little bit, so I found a safe place to do first gear high wheelies. I do second ones on my 800NK though)
It’s very important for me to see what I did here was useful for you!
Honda and Yamaha are great motorcycles! T700 was a bike of my friend when we were kids, we rode a lot on it). You should definitely try it before your order, I’m very curious to see what you have to say about it! Keep in touch, hope to hear from you soon 🤝
@@eddywave3315 D'ont try wheelies in second. Start traing wheelies while riding uphill. Moderate steep hill is perfect. for this. In Principle you don't need a lot of clutchaction. ALWAYS have your foot on the rearbrake pedal then just roll slowly an blip the clutch with some revs. So you can find the best inputs.
new subscriber, greetings from Mexico, I'm waiting for this bike.😮
Thank you for your subscription! Hope you get it soon! Shout out to Mexico🤜🤛
Nice video! I think the tires make a big difference - the bike is definitely better for off road though it’s good in the city but I think the stock tires aren’t good for pavement, seems like they wear quickly based on the ones I’ve seen around my city (Kunming). BTW Dizimini - I just rode the new NX400 by Honda -! Really nice bike with a few new things compared to the 400X. I wanted to test the Triumph 400 speed but they didn’t have any so I happened upon the new Honda - definitely a top contender to consider.
Tires aren’t the best if you’re trying to get 100% of it’s potential, but I really feel good doing my stuff with these tires, but I agree, if you want to improve it to the max, you can get the other set of tires!
I haven’t ridden NX400, but now I’m
curious. Maybe I’ll check on it 🤜🤛
awesome! thanks for the video review
Thank you 🤜🤛
very good presentations! congratulations! you're 👍
Thank you very much! Your words mean a lot to me 🤜🤛
Ah that’s better without the music. Great job. Cool to get a beginners opinion instead of the typical reviews by bike mag writers.
This bike sounds vicious for a 450. If they were available where I am in British Columbia I would be riding one right now although from what I hear they are going to be quite expensive when they do come to Canada. Honesty if they end up in the same range as Japanese competitors over here I don’t think they will do well. For a Chinese bike to compete with the big boys they are going to have to be substantially cheaper.
Thank you! This is why I decided to make these videos, I was curious how an average guy would feel riding these)
It does sound great! I think these CFmotos are getting better and better in every aspect, but you’re right, if the price is the same with Japanese bikes, people will not buy it. In China it’s 4400$, and I can’t believe how much of a motorcycle you get for this money! Please let me know when it gets to Canada, I’m so curious to see how much it will cost 🤝
Very nice review!!!
Appreciate it 🤝
Oh sim! Ela anda muito bem👏👏👏
Really great for cities
What would be the estimated fuel range like when cruising at 100-110kmh ? I am asking as planning to use it as travelling bike in the future. A 350km fuel range when cruising 100-110kmh would be excellence!
it should reach those numbers since comsumption is around 22km/liter
Which a full tank of gas it shows me 420 km/h range, if you go 100 in 6 gear it’s at around 5500rpm I think you can get 400km on a tank no problem
That is indeed very promising. TQ
The CF is a really good motorcycle but the gears are very short and on the highway you almost reach the rev limiter. After the first service you should replace the 14 tooth motor pinion with a 15 tooth one. This costs minimal torque but noticeably reduces the engine speed by 7%
Part IV = mountain roads. How does it feel cruising on twisty roads for some kms?? Thanks for your videos
I hope to make it happen, but I’m running out of time, I have it for few more days. Hate to give it back
Do you had test to wheelie this in thé 2nd Gear?
is a wheele possible in the 3 gear?
Probably this engine can give more power at 5 and 6 gear but will need to be remapped.
One little tip for you, in order to get the max speed one needs to get the highest torque at the right revs, but eventually each gear has to be squeezed at its max, hence max revs.
Try it next time and likely the bike will fly faster
This bike seem to have really short gear, it's more offroad oriented. I don't know if there is room to install a 140/80 tyre at the rear. In my country seem impossible to find a 140/70. Only that will give you a 4% longer, adding 6/7more km/h and lowering rpm at the same speed
I do it when I measure acceleration, this time I was focusing my attention on top speed, so I didn’t shift in the most optimal way, but still tried to do it nicely. I think my shifting didn’t influence the top speed! But thank you for the tip🤜🤛
You are right, gears are short! I heard it’s hard to find the tires you mentioned abroad, hope soon this problem will be resolved
if i learn right there are 2 version of 450mt....asian 152kmh european 170kmh as max speed
Might be, but as I checked it’s at least 157 km/h in Asia
That is a pretty respectable top speed for a 450 Adventure bike, why do people think it should do more? The Himalayan 450, Triumph Scrambler 400X and KTM 390 Adventure all do about 160km/h too. Their clocks might read 5km/h higher than the MT but I guarantee their GPS speed is much closer to what you achieved. GPS speed is accurate, clock speeds are not, I've seen up to 10% errors in clock speed. The MT's clock speed is actually surprisingly accurate. Why would anyone buy a new bike and then spend extra money and do stupid things to their new bike to get an extra 5 or 6km/h and shorten the life of their motorcycle in the process. For those chasing speed, buy a bigger sport bike, adventure bikes are not about speed.
The wheelies are coming along nicely!
I can’t agree more with what you said!!! Personally for me it would be fine even if it would go up to only 140, I loved MT800 but it’s so much heavier and with my set of skills I have to think about to many things! This 450 is light and fun! I often find myself chilling to the extent where I forget I’m riding ) it’s great for what I like, and I think people would love it too!
Thank you, I try to keep my wheelies up! Still scary but I see the progress
Himalayan goes upto 170 & this cf is clearly looser here 😂😂😂
What are the vibrations like on highway speeds
Little to no vibrations, the least vibrations among any of the small displacement adv bikes I tried by a long shot
My only wonder here is that will the big four japanese companies finally make 400 to 450cc bikes now that they see that there is a huge market of people just wanting these smaller "big bikes". I am interested to know what they'll answer to this 450 market.
The problem in my opinion, is that Japanese small cc engines aren’t as fun/powerful as this 270 degree 2cylinder one. I think they need to build up a new engine from the scratch to hold up. What do you think?
@@eddywave3315 in someway i agree with you. maybe that's the why they haven't. they have to make a new engine instead of just putting an existing design in a different model. However... in the sense of "powerful or fun" i doubt many seekers of 400cc bikes are really in it for power or speed. I hear honda already has an nx400 i mean all they have to do is release it globally right?
is this the euro5 version?
In China it’s called differently but I think it’s similar to euro5
Nice video ! how tall are you ?
Thank you! I’m 1.85m 6.1
as you say in another video from another guy he reached 170Km/h around 10000rpm. you seem limited around 9400rpm,. there is a setting for that, i mean a rpm limiter you can change? thanks!
that was a preproduction bike sent to greece, probably without the locked ECU, if the chinese version with 44hp is like this then the euro5 version with 41hp should be a little weaker.
The bike does have a rev limiter you can adjust
Honestly I don’t know! I think you can find a loophole, but I haven’t researched it yet
You can put different sprocket if you need higher top speed and lower rpm, but this is very well configured and have fun short gears with top speed of 150-160kmh. 44HP is enough to reach about 180kmh but you need longer gears then. E.g. Honda CB500X has little bit longer gears with similar power. But I think shorter gears are better and more fun, you can still ride at 120-140kmh at the highway on 450MT. More rpm the better :)
Thanks, to the point
Appreciate it 🤝
Awesome video. What is your height and weight?
Thank you!
I’m 1.85m and 85 kg heavy!
Esta motocicleta está ficando unanime na escolha dessa cilindrada e categoria no mundo todo. Batendo de frente com a Tenere e Honda. Pelo preço e qualidade. Muitos ainda têm preconceito infelizmente por ser chinesa. Mas é indiscutível a qualidade do produto. A Tenere tem seu nome feito. Mas a CFMOTO acertou que muitos querem motos mais baixas e inicarem no mundo off-road. Menos por vezes é mais. E a bom preço. Então o mundo está apreciando muito as baixas cilindradas. Muito visível e claro esse crescimento. No Brasil Então nem te conto.
In China Tenere will cost more than 3 times the price of 450mt, so the choice is obvious! I heard that in some countries the price of 450mt is very high, so I’m not sure whether I would have considered mt450 if it was twice the price, but in China, so far it might be my favorite bike in this price range
@@eddywave3315 bom. Na verdade ainda não sei. A 450MT chegou a Portugal por 6500 euros. Talvez um pouco menos em dólares. Não sei se já há dela nos Estados Unidos da América. Mas no Brasil se chegar, já se estima o valor a partir de 37 mil reais. O que daria uma conversão certa e direta em euros. Contudo, ela seria a motocicleta bicilindrica mais barata do Brasil. E iria fazer a Honda e a Yamaha que não trouxe ainda motos nessa faixa, arrancarem os cabelos. O bom que a CFMOTO já opera muito bem seus quadriciclos aqui. Então já tem muitas lojas nesse país tão grande em território. Nada demais pra Honda que é líder aqui. Porém já assusta e já toma mercado da tão querida CB 500x ou a nova NX500 Honda.
How tall are you ?
I’m 1.85m/6.1
And how do you feel It? Is it confortable or do you miss the higher seat?
😊
🤩🤩🤩
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What is the speed rating of the stock tyres?
I don’t know
Try standing, it will be more satisfying,when off the pavement.
I tried off the record unfortunately, you are correct, it’s a great feeling
兄弟 你是多少转速弹的离合
速度很慢5-10公里一个小时第一档但是如果你要你可以从20-30公里开始没问题👌🏻
6:07 damn
O amigo do carro fazendo uma intercessão incorreta😅
Oh yeah, he did)
I have 450NK now, im thinking to switch to 450MT 😂😂😂
I love both of them! Still NK will be a bit faster, but MT450 has so much to offer 😏
@@eddywave3315 for you which is stable on higher speed? 450NK OR 450MT?
and burns gasoline up to 100 km
Gas consumption is fine as far as I’m concerned
That guy on the white suv almost runs over you
Yes he did, it happens all the time, but I don’t film the vast majority of the time)
Yes he did! It happens all the time here
Rubish, honda cb500x/nx500 has a top speed of 180 downhill, 170 on flat ground, suspension... softer on the honda, more travel on the cf but very harsh. Jerky fueling. Good luck for long term abuse....
In China the bikes you mentioned are way more expensive, so I’ll go with mt450 anyway, liked it a lot
the honda is almost 2x the price. for the difference you can mod the cfmoto to be 2x better than the honda.
@@siagraphy Honda is only 10-15% more expensive.
Fuelling is solved with new Ecu update. CF Moto is a proper off-road machine, the Honda is not. Built for different purposes. Who cares with top speed, on such small bikes 120-130 is real cruising speed max.
Royal Enfield Himalayan killer.
I haven’t ridden Himalayan yet, but it’s hard to imagine it would be better than 450MT