When looking at these frames from Santa Cruz , I can see mold symmetry marks from the fine sanding by Chinese factory workers through the paint job . My friend has an aluminium Canadian frame Bronson . This was one of the last made there before changing supplier .
I am a heavier rider (230 lbs) and have an Epic EVO. Great bike, but due to the high shock leverage ratio, I have to run the shock at max pressure (325psi) to get 25 to 30% sag. I cannot achieve 20% sag. I believe the Blur has a lower shock leverage ratio, so I believe I could achieve 20% at a lower psi. Thank you for this great comparison!
I built my own CC FS MTB with Sram XX1 11 Speed drivetrain, Fox Stepcast fork, and a carbon wheelset. Weights 25.9 Lbs. and cost $4900.00 to build. Same bike at ALL Bike shops is at least $10,000.
The Cervelo version of this frame is competitive with the Spec in weight. The cable routing is ok but I like Pivot's larger ports with the covers that clamp. Foam goes into those big ports so easily. I've considered getting one but the colorways just don't do it for me.
My black version CC frameset size M, with Rockshox shock and all protection but no axes and no seat clamp have weighted 2010grams . Which is more versus versus 1930 claimed but less versus your math 2150 grams for CC.. And btw we also were lucky to weight Cervelo frame (friend of mine purchase) that has claimed much lighter , I think Cervelo says even around 1800 grams but in reality it was 1950grams. Learning: Manufactures dont claim correct weights and magazines should stop quote their claimed weights but rather put them on the scale as you do. Nice review that you made.
Love the color. Any thoughts on a future comparison with the Intense Sniper T or the entry level version Intense 951 XC (available at Costco of all places).
Hi, I have a large blur which I'm selling the frame soon as it's too large for me. In your opinion what would you think of some buying a S frame when the are 5'8-9". I had shoulder reconstruction September 22 and just can't cope with too much weight on my hands. There is a lot of talk about rad measurements and I think my rad is 80. I would appreciate your comments as you always seem to talk since and portable. Cheers David By the way I'm 64 years old but still managing to train hard.
Hi David that’s awesome! Hope to be riding at that age still. It’s so hard to suggest bike sizes not knowing your body proportions and your flexibility etc. I would think the Small will be too small though I would choose a Medium. And too much pressure on hands can be stack height too low also? Good luck finding the good fit for you.
A question: does changing the rear shock alone alter the head tube and seat tube angles? I thought those angles would only change when swapping the fork from 100 to 120. Thanks
@@LoveMTB That makes sense, just making sure it's the taller fork that would actually change the geometry. If rear shocks are both 190 eye to eye, in my mind swapping those alone would not change geometry.
@@LoveMTB Perfect! I'm thinking about giving a TR a try but am unsure how it would handle my 210lbs. Thought about a TB5 too, but leaning towards a BTR for what I'm looking to do with it.
Can you record a dream build of this frame , and post it on youtube ? I recently bought a Propain Spindrift 4 AL 27,5" Frameset Frame Size : L [ Large ] Frame Color : Petrol Gloss Decal Kit : Chrome Badge : Chrome Rear Shock: RockShox Super Deluxe Ultimate RCT Without Chainguard/Bashguard The frame came , incl. Headset Acros AZX-209 ZS49/ZS56, Seatclamp SIXPACK Skywalker 34,9 mm black, SIXPACK 148 mm x 12 mm thru-axle and a fitting rear derailleur hanger
@@LoveMTB So the TB stays? superb! p.s. - how can one reach out to you? I own a large Israeli magazine and group and I'd like to see if you are into some collaborations
Does this light green frame accept the so called SRAM "universal rear derailleur hanger" , system as well as Shimano style XT and XTR ones ? I have seen Mondraker and Commencals that have dual - standard , flexibility with an "adaptor hanger" fitting available .
@@ferranox The traditional hanger made out of aluminium alloy that mounts on the inside face of the drive side rear wheel dropout . The derailleur threads into the threaded hole at the bottom of the hanger . XT and XTR are accepting this older standard .
Great frame and that colour is beautiful!!! - glad to see you are ride wrapping it!! Look forward to seeing the bike all built up!!
You and me both!
When looking at these frames from Santa Cruz , I can see mold symmetry marks from the fine sanding by Chinese factory workers through the paint job . My friend has an aluminium Canadian frame Bronson . This was one of the last made there before changing supplier .
This not made in China...but they do have a factory there as far as I know
@@LoveMTB The frames are made there (China) , under contract . The frames are then sent to the United States for assembly , some to order .
The components are installed in the United States , some to order .
Ouch!
@@trentvlak this is NOT made in China, keep trying to say that😊
Great first look. Cant wait to see the ride review.
Same here!😎
I am a heavier rider (230 lbs) and have an Epic EVO. Great bike, but due to the high shock leverage ratio, I have to run the shock at max pressure (325psi) to get 25 to 30% sag. I cannot achieve 20% sag. I believe the Blur has a lower shock leverage ratio, so I believe I could achieve 20% at a lower psi. Thank you for this great comparison!
You're welcome, let us know how you like it if you make the change!
I built my own CC FS MTB with Sram XX1 11 Speed drivetrain, Fox Stepcast fork, and a carbon wheelset. Weights 25.9 Lbs. and cost $4900.00 to build. Same bike at ALL Bike shops is at least $10,000.
ope mine to be around 24lbs
Great frame, I nearly bought one but got a Scott Spark RC instead. I would not have been dissapoitned either way. You will have to show the build.
That's the plan!☺
Excelente cuadro. Ya nos la enseñarás cuando la tengas montada (construida). Enhorabuena; me gusta mucho ese cuadro.
¡Con seguridad! Haré una revisión de la bicicleta terminada cuando esté lista.
I suppose previous owner weighted this frame and then desided to sell it :)) Would like to see split pivot or at least fsr at this weight point!
Actually no they had it as a full bike, doubt he ever geeked out like this 😇
Nice looking frame!!! Can't wait to see it finished(lucky daughter)Cheers!!!
You and me both! Thanks Glenn
The Cervelo version of this frame is competitive with the Spec in weight. The cable routing is ok but I like Pivot's larger ports with the covers that clamp. Foam goes into those big ports so easily. I've considered getting one but the colorways just don't do it for me.
Yeah it looks like they got the Cervelo slimmed down on purpose with this to be more the TR version
Having both the bikes built up now which one are you leaning towards? Build quality/weight/functionality? Always love your honest non bias reviews.
Vs Specialized? Or Tallboy?
The Epic Evo and the Blur TR
Looks like a good buy! Looks minty!❤
It is!
I've never owned a Specialized even knowing along with GIANT were sold at a former bike/sports shop where I live.
Nice frame! Where could i find another one for me? Ride well
So true, why buy new? Much better for the environment too.
My black version CC frameset size M, with Rockshox shock and all protection but no axes and no seat clamp have weighted 2010grams . Which is more versus versus 1930 claimed but less versus your math 2150 grams for CC.. And btw we also were lucky to weight Cervelo frame (friend of mine purchase) that has claimed much lighter , I think Cervelo says even around 1800 grams but in reality it was 1950grams.
Learning: Manufactures dont claim correct weights and magazines should stop quote their claimed weights but rather put them on the scale as you do.
Nice review that you made.
Thanks for sharing!
Wish I had a CC for my daughter but at least she absolutely loves the color! You know, the important stuff for a girl 😊
Thanks for the numbers
Love the color. Any thoughts on a future comparison with the Intense Sniper T or the entry level version Intense 951 XC (available at Costco of all places).
Not in Canada! And don't have an Intense I can get my hands on now but I'll look
Hi, I have a large blur which I'm selling the frame soon as it's too large for me.
In your opinion what would you think of some buying a S frame when the are 5'8-9". I had shoulder reconstruction September 22 and just can't cope with too much weight on my hands.
There is a lot of talk about rad measurements and I think my rad is 80.
I would appreciate your comments as you always seem to talk since and portable.
Cheers David
By the way I'm 64 years old but still managing to train hard.
Hi David that’s awesome! Hope to be riding at that age still. It’s so hard to suggest bike sizes not knowing your body proportions and your flexibility etc. I would think the Small will be too small though I would choose a Medium. And too much pressure on hands can be stack height too low also? Good luck finding the good fit for you.
Dream frame❤
It sis nice indeed
@@LoveMTB how much it cost?
@@mtb717 posted online, not cheap!
3 water bottle cages. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
You didn't mention the price you paid for it, nor where you purchased it.
I usually don’t because it is irrelevant, trying to focus on the technical aspects that are usually not covered like cable routing for this bike
A question: does changing the rear shock alone alter the head tube and seat tube angles? I thought those angles would only change when swapping the fork from 100 to 120. Thanks
SC recommends changing both shock and fork when changing to XC/ 100mm
@@LoveMTB That makes sense, just making sure it's the taller fork that would actually change the geometry. If rear shocks are both 190 eye to eye, in my mind swapping those alone would not change geometry.
In your opinion which of these short travel bikes feel the smoothest on flatter bumpy trails?
Good question🤓What suspension, how is it setup? Hard to tell too many variables.
Ok fair enough :) How about which do you think is more plush Fox step cast 34 or Rochshox SID 35?
@@TomCollins-c4h Fox 34 SC vs old SID💯 however new SID is supposed/ aiming to be similar
what level of ride wrap would you recommend? tailored, covered or essential? just looking off the website
I got tailored, worked very well! Added 90g to the weight of the frame
Heavy is good, heavy is reliable
Heavy wears the rider out.
Caro, hai poi completato questa bici, ci dici le tue impressioni?
Grazie
💯!
Hey, any issues with this frame? Any creaks or other annoying problems?
Zero so far, seems as solid as my Tallboy
@@LoveMTB Perfect! I'm thinking about giving a TR a try but am unsure how it would handle my 210lbs. Thought about a TB5 too, but leaning towards a BTR for what I'm looking to do with it.
Can you record a dream build of this frame , and post it on youtube ?
I recently bought a Propain Spindrift 4 AL 27,5" Frameset
Frame Size : L [ Large ]
Frame Color : Petrol Gloss
Decal Kit : Chrome
Badge : Chrome
Rear Shock: RockShox Super Deluxe Ultimate RCT
Without Chainguard/Bashguard
The frame came , incl. Headset Acros AZX-209 ZS49/ZS56, Seatclamp SIXPACK Skywalker 34,9 mm black, SIXPACK 148 mm x 12 mm thru-axle and a fitting rear derailleur hanger
I will see if it ends up being a dream build type, it takes a lot longer and time is what I never have enough of
@@LoveMTB Yes, that's true
my frame size is l
Are you going to replace your TB (or it was already replaced)?
This is my daughter's😉
@@LoveMTB
So the TB stays? superb!
p.s. - how can one reach out to you? I own a large Israeli magazine and group and I'd like to see if you are into some collaborations
I also have never owned or rode a Santa Cruz. What series/grade of aluminum are their frames made from?😊
They're carbon fiber frames you can see the fibers when he's looking at the cable routing from the inside
@@lunatiy I haven't watched the video yet. They should be 3/2.5 and 6/4 Titanium frames🤘🤘
Does this light green frame accept the so called SRAM "universal rear derailleur hanger" , system as well as Shimano style XT and XTR ones ? I have seen Mondraker and Commencals that have dual - standard , flexibility with an "adaptor hanger" fitting available .
It has UDH yes
@@LoveMTB Does it support "BOTH" standards ? The Shimano one as well ?
@@robertmcfadyen9156 yes
@@robertmcfadyen9156 can you explain what is shimano style? I believe they had some, but in 12 speed it's not alive anymore
@@ferranox The traditional hanger made out of aluminium alloy that mounts on the inside face of the drive side rear wheel dropout . The derailleur threads into the threaded hole at the bottom of the hanger . XT and XTR are accepting this older standard .
2.2kg isn't heavy....Lol
Depends on your point of reference 😊
Looks boring compared to the new canyon lux trail series imo.
With the beautiful headset routed cables? Nah
@@LoveMTB if designed properly it ain’t nothing to be worried about.
@@E.T_rode_bikes_As_well it's canyon, usually it's not designed properly, lots of examples there, but yes, bells and whistles.
huh? where is the motor? mtb's all have motors now
In some worlds...