I ABSOLUTELY love working in the trinity desktop environment!!! I use it on modern hardware. I don't care about looks. I care about productivity, practicality and stability. Trinity delivers big time!! It's super fast and fun!! 😃
couldn't agree more. I switched my desktops to windows from slackware as my primary something like 15 years ago because of plasma (and I'm still not impressed by plasma/gnome/xfce (liked potential of lxde+openbox but...))...the simultaneous maturity of q4os and trinity have put me back into a more regular linux desktop user the last couple of years and it's the only linux my kids have known in their short lives... it works great running on micro sdxc cards on their 13 year old netbooks and it works even better for me on my main desktop...
Interesting. My desktop is ten years old. I used to use Mint Cinnamon, but am gradually migrating to Debian Mate, mainly because it is so incredibly quick. I will try Q4OS (Thank you, Ventoy!) but it looks a little bit too retro for me. Although my pc is ancient, it's pretty well-specified and these lightweight OSs really fly. Thanks for what you do.
Q4OS is simple and can run the latest KDE with 8 gig of ram quite easily. Im an old man with not too many graphics projects, and I can run my computer needs very nicely with no crashes and I like the flatpak installations. This is a dream, and is based on rock solid DEBIAN. IM A BELIEVER in this project.
Been running Q4OS for over a year and a half maybe longer. Did a lot of work to it to make it more suitable but it is stable, it works. Installed in on a T100TAM which is stuck on 32 bit via bios even though the hardware is 64 bit capable. Got it down to around 320 MB at idle. Very snappy. It has some quirks but it runs fine. Kind of overlooked distro imo.
Windows XP is the gold standard by which all desktop environments are measured. Nothing better has really come along in the last twenty years to replace it. The desktop metaphor has lived on in spite of efforts to kill it.
There is a new project which is based on Q4OS but runs under Ubuntu. It is now call QuarkOS You get the Q4OS Trinity / KDE functionality on a Ubuntu base. It is 64 bit only but sounds nice if one wishes to use a Ubuntu core. I like the Trinity desktop for single screen systems. I prefer XFCE for its multi-screen support. I still have some XP era systems so Q4OS will be a nice part of my toolkit. Thanks.
I always loved trinity desktop, I used Q4OS a while a go, in my opinion is the most stable and friendly with the ram usage Trinity always was very friendly and warm enviroment, just like XP.
What intrigues me about this project is that if I recall correctly they support the pinebook pro, which is something I might be looking into trying out on my own pinebook pro
Could you test the BigLinux distribution? It is a popular distribution in Brazil, but it is very little known in other countries, but it is perhaps the fastest KDE that comes in a distribution.
I've been running a WinXP DE until 2015 and W7 DE until last year before going directly to Linux and I wish to have known Trinity before. If this DE has a lot of customizations while retaining lightness I could run it on mordern hardware for some heavy file management task. Developing Trinity could even be part of my dreams since it could be more easy to design it than full on KDE who had already a team behind with a certain vision.
As someone running this distro on an old system, I can say it's not about wanting to use it. It's one of the few distros with 32 bit support, and even better it installs on Athlon XP processors, which many i686 lightweight distros will not do, including simple ones like Gparted Live. I've tested a few with this, and i think Antix installed but the interface is useless. And I was able to install Haiku, but we all know that software library is designed for new-ish systems. So I use this out of necessity for that particular system. I'm a little disappointed in performance, seeing as I might have a better experience with Ubuntu 6.06 and old repositories, save for the lack of support for the Athlon XP processor. But I digress, thanks for the video!
I have a HPmini netbook that has lxle that ran fine that I used it until I killed the battery in 2020 and has been collecting dust ever since. Now I would like to revive it for IoT projects as an alternative to arduino or just to be able to run/test usb relays on protoboard. I hope it to be snapier.
I found that LMDE5 was too heavy for my sixteen year old Celeron laptop with 2GB RAM. I then tried MX 32-bit, finally Q4OS. Only the latter runs smooth if the Trinity DE is employed. KDE Plasma bottlenecks the 128MB VRAM in no time.
For the next in this series, maybe an Openbox distro? I'm looking to install something light but still fully functional on an old Thinkpad T500. Ram isn't an issue since it has 8gb, but the dual core CPU really struggles with modern DE's sometimes.
Installed it just today. Is there an option to remove icons from the desktop without putting them to bin... I mean trashing the software (if that is what bin means)? Or adding some apllets to the task bar for quick launch? Or date to display with clock in the bottom right corner?
Love your series of video about lightweight linux distro. for someone that about to switch from windows to linux with limited hardware (2gb ram), from all five distro which one do you recomended for 32bit & 64bit hardware?
Amarok 1.4 was hands down my favourite music player until clementine / strawberry was created. Amarok was included with the first Linux distro that I drove daily, Simply MEPIS. I ditched windows and used this for 3 years until I decided to build a gaming pc in the early Win 7 days.
I use a laptop from 2009, it has 4GB of RAM, a dual core CPU (Intel t3400) and despite a SSD it's very slow and struggles with browsing, UA-cam videos playback or even torrenting and copying large files on USB drives because of the USB 2 ports. This OS might "work" on a laptop like mine... but those activities are still going to be a massive struggle to the point of asking myself what do people use legacy hardware for, really? And I mean machines like mine, I.e. not purposefully built for emulation (games) or routing, NAS work and similarly fringe case scenarios. Who uses such machines to work? To use an Excel or Word or Power Point - like program on them? Is the whole point to simply say "look it uses just 1 GB of ram", click a bit on the various icons and then be done with it?
You know people also have a computer at home not for working. Those lightweight distros are perfect to browse the web, watch youtube and series in streaming. That's all I do with my computer ! These days, everybody plays heavyweight video games and is a video editor and they all need a powerful computer ... not me ;)
@@cleanthe3276 the point of my post is that a machine from 2009 struggles already with the things you listed... even with the most optimized and lightweight distro. At a certain point the hardware is just not powerful enough to do things a 2022 entry level smartphone does effortlessly.
@@Kraven83 Sounds like your device was low-end already back in 2009. My current desktop is only 2 years younger, and has no trouble running anything on the market. I got my old folks a Core2quad + Ati radeon wormbox for like 160 bucks a few years ago to release them from their Vista-era craptop, and it performs extremely well for daily tasks. But to answer your silly earlier question, distros like this are a perfect proof that modern Windows systems are extremely bloated clusterfucks. With IT components prices climbing each day, it is wiser and wiser to make do with older hardware instead of chasing the next big, overhyped trend product. Not to mention distros like Q4OS do good for the Linux community as well. The recent advances in things like user friendly UIX cannot be understated, but in many ways Linux still drags behind Windows on this department.
Q4OS is a great out of the box experience, but far too sluggish and slow for my netbook from bootup to desktop, and less snappy compared to Antix Linux when opening a menu. I'd reckon Q4OS would be better for slightly newer hardware. On a side note, this might be a bit of a challenge, but could you check out Arch Linux 32, or Parabola / Hyperbola Linux? I found the install process too complicated for me.
Anything Arch related will eventually fail after updates. Almost guaranteed. Debian-based is less fun but more trustworthy. I am quite experienced and my observations go back to the early days of Linux.
KDE 3 was pre-internet? wtf are you on about. The whole KDE project is post World Wide Web let alone the internet that existed two or more decades before. KDE 3 was launched in 2002!
I ABSOLUTELY love working in the trinity desktop environment!!! I use it on modern hardware. I don't care about looks. I care about productivity, practicality and stability. Trinity delivers big time!! It's super fast and fun!! 😃
couldn't agree more. I switched my desktops to windows from slackware as my primary something like 15 years ago because of plasma (and I'm still not impressed by plasma/gnome/xfce (liked potential of lxde+openbox but...))...the simultaneous maturity of q4os and trinity have put me back into a more regular linux desktop user the last couple of years and it's the only linux my kids have known in their short lives... it works great running on micro sdxc cards on their 13 year old netbooks and it works even better for me on my main desktop...
Q4 is my daily driver... completely satisfied. Looks *exactly* like I want a desktop to look - no BS just simplicity and performance.
It's good to find alternatives to make old hardware come back to life
Thanks for posting this. I probably won’t try it out, but I still really enjoy seeing other/older environments.
I hope someone make Linux distro based on Windows 7, because Windows 7 is still the GOAT
Linuxfx did that alongside a version that resembles Windows 10. The current one is a Windows 11 lookalike.
@@MendenLama DO NOT USE LINUX FX PLEASE. THEY HAVE BEEN HACKED MULTIPLE TIMES
@@jshklsn Zorin Os looks like Win10 not Win7
Try something with the Cinnamon desktop. Use the spices (customization site) to achieve your desired look & feel.
@@n124ajdxno zorin have 2 themes win 7 and win xp styles
To get the Win XP theme in the thumbnail use XPQ4
Interesting. My desktop is ten years old. I used to use Mint Cinnamon, but am gradually migrating to Debian Mate, mainly because it is so incredibly quick. I will try Q4OS (Thank you, Ventoy!) but it looks a little bit too retro for me. Although my pc is ancient, it's pretty well-specified and these lightweight OSs really fly. Thanks for what you do.
Q4OS is simple and can run the latest KDE with 8 gig of ram quite easily. Im an old man with not too many graphics projects, and I can run my computer needs very nicely with no crashes and I like the flatpak installations. This is a dream, and is based on rock solid DEBIAN. IM A BELIEVER in this project.
Been running Q4OS for over a year and a half maybe longer. Did a lot of work to it to make it more suitable but it is stable, it works. Installed in on a T100TAM which is stuck on 32 bit via bios even though the hardware is 64 bit capable. Got it down to around 320 MB at idle. Very snappy. It has some quirks but it runs fine. Kind of overlooked distro imo.
Windows XP is the gold standard by which all desktop environments are measured. Nothing better has really come along in the last twenty years to replace it. The desktop metaphor has lived on in spite of efforts to kill it.
@@user-xv9mq 7 and xp were the greatest operating systems ever made
There is a new project which is based on Q4OS but runs under Ubuntu. It is now call QuarkOS You get the Q4OS Trinity / KDE functionality on a Ubuntu base. It is 64 bit only but sounds nice if one wishes to use a Ubuntu core. I like the Trinity desktop for single screen systems. I prefer XFCE for its multi-screen support. I still have some XP era systems so Q4OS will be a nice part of my toolkit. Thanks.
I always loved trinity desktop, I used Q4OS a while a go, in my opinion is the most stable and friendly with the ram usage
Trinity always was very friendly and warm enviroment, just like XP.
the Spring theme is so XP like it's beautiful, my rusty old laptop flies now, perfect for the simple use, totally recommend it for old PCs 😊👍🏻
It's unfortunate you didn't carry on this series, I would have loved to see you cover Tiny Core
the Win98 look is very fun
KDE3 was my first exposure to Linux back on like Red Hat 7 or something. What a trip this is
What intrigues me about this project is that if I recall correctly they support the pinebook pro, which is something I might be looking into trying out on my own pinebook pro
Great video, thanks!
Could you test the BigLinux distribution? It is a popular distribution in Brazil, but it is very little known in other countries, but it is perhaps the fastest KDE that comes in a distribution.
Q4OS for me are the best! 😉👍
I've been running a WinXP DE until 2015 and W7 DE until last year before going directly to Linux and I wish to have known Trinity before.
If this DE has a lot of customizations while retaining lightness I could run it on mordern hardware for some heavy file management task.
Developing Trinity could even be part of my dreams since it could be more easy to design it than full on KDE who had already a team behind with a certain vision.
As someone running this distro on an old system, I can say it's not about wanting to use it. It's one of the few distros with 32 bit support, and even better it installs on Athlon XP processors, which many i686 lightweight distros will not do, including simple ones like Gparted Live. I've tested a few with this, and i think Antix installed but the interface is useless. And I was able to install Haiku, but we all know that software library is designed for new-ish systems.
So I use this out of necessity for that particular system. I'm a little disappointed in performance, seeing as I might have a better experience with Ubuntu 6.06 and old repositories, save for the lack of support for the Athlon XP processor. But I digress, thanks for the video!
Try using the LookSwitcher to change to a more lightweight theme
I love using the trinity desktop on all my desktop computers.
I have a HPmini netbook that has lxle that ran fine that I used it until I killed the battery in 2020 and has been collecting dust ever since. Now I would like to revive it for IoT projects as an alternative to arduino or just to be able to run/test usb relays on protoboard. I hope it to be snapier.
I found that LMDE5 was too heavy for my sixteen year old Celeron laptop with 2GB RAM. I then tried MX 32-bit, finally Q4OS. Only the latter runs smooth if the Trinity DE is employed. KDE Plasma bottlenecks the 128MB VRAM in no time.
Long as it gets regular updates, especially for Firefox, im happy. How's wifi support out of the box? It's something I don't want to mess with
I like xp programs and thanks for your nice works
I am currently instaling this on an Asus EE Pc.
For the next in this series, maybe an Openbox distro? I'm looking to install something light but still fully functional on an old Thinkpad T500. Ram isn't an issue since it has 8gb, but the dual core CPU really struggles with modern DE's sometimes.
Crunchbangplusplus
Everyone is looking for niche distros pretending like arch and archinstall don't exist 🤣😭😂
@@Perry.... Not everyone wants to use Arch.
@@folksurvival Debian exists. Void exists. OpenSUSE exists. Fedora exists. Try again
@@Perry.... I never claimed any of those distros do not exist.
Better Use AntiX.
Installed it just today. Is there an option to remove icons from the desktop without putting them to bin... I mean trashing the software (if that is what bin means)? Or adding some apllets to the task bar for quick launch? Or date to display with clock in the bottom right corner?
Love your series of video about lightweight linux distro. for someone that about to switch from windows to linux with limited hardware (2gb ram), from all five distro which one do you recomended for 32bit & 64bit hardware?
Amarok 1.4 was hands down my favourite music player until clementine / strawberry was created.
Amarok was included with the first Linux distro that I drove daily, Simply MEPIS. I ditched windows and used this for 3 years until I decided to build a gaming pc in the early Win 7 days.
I use a laptop from 2009, it has 4GB of RAM, a dual core CPU (Intel t3400) and despite a SSD it's very slow and struggles with browsing, UA-cam videos playback or even torrenting and copying large files on USB drives because of the USB 2 ports.
This OS might "work" on a laptop like mine... but those activities are still going to be a massive struggle to the point of asking myself what do people use legacy hardware for, really?
And I mean machines like mine, I.e. not purposefully built for emulation (games) or routing, NAS work and similarly fringe case scenarios.
Who uses such machines to work? To use an Excel or Word or Power Point - like program on them?
Is the whole point to simply say "look it uses just 1 GB of ram", click a bit on the various icons and then be done with it?
You know people also have a computer at home not for working. Those lightweight distros are perfect to browse the web, watch youtube and series in streaming. That's all I do with my computer ! These days, everybody plays heavyweight video games and is a video editor and they all need a powerful computer ... not me ;)
@@cleanthe3276 the point of my post is that a machine from 2009 struggles already with the things you listed... even with the most optimized and lightweight distro. At a certain point the hardware is just not powerful enough to do things a 2022 entry level smartphone does effortlessly.
Check temperature
@@Kraven83 Throw it out and buy a better one. Buy a Mac Mini, there just $699.00 right now.
@@Kraven83 Sounds like your device was low-end already back in 2009. My current desktop is only 2 years younger, and has no trouble running anything on the market. I got my old folks a Core2quad + Ati radeon wormbox for like 160 bucks a few years ago to release them from their Vista-era craptop, and it performs extremely well for daily tasks.
But to answer your silly earlier question, distros like this are a perfect proof that modern Windows systems are extremely bloated clusterfucks. With IT components prices climbing each day, it is wiser and wiser to make do with older hardware instead of chasing the next big, overhyped trend product.
Not to mention distros like Q4OS do good for the Linux community as well. The recent advances in things like user friendly UIX cannot be understated, but in many ways Linux still drags behind Windows on this department.
Gosh, it boots into just 164MB RAM. In 2023..
I wish I didn't care about ui consistency and shit cause I'm stuck with gnome and a tiling wm cause of it
Q4OS is a great out of the box experience, but far too sluggish and slow for my netbook from bootup to desktop, and less snappy compared to Antix Linux when opening a menu. I'd reckon Q4OS would be better for slightly newer hardware. On a side note, this might be a bit of a challenge, but could you check out Arch Linux 32, or Parabola / Hyperbola Linux? I found the install process too complicated for me.
Anything Arch related will eventually fail after updates. Almost guaranteed. Debian-based is less fun but more trustworthy. I am quite experienced and my observations go back to the early days of Linux.
Is that 64bit or 32bit, or is it available as both?
Both.
👍
Sir, can the labels/text on desktop icon been removed/disabled? (such as "My Computer", "Trash", etc). I am using 4.10 Gemini Trinity version.
Yes they can
Right Click >
Configure Desktop >
Appearance or Behavior (I can't remember) >
File icons >
Turn off "My Computer" "Trash" etc
@@fred-youtube Thanks a lot sir, great appreciate, maybe next time i can try that step by step, finally i use mx-linux for my simple daily task.
I am sorry for my bad english
Is it "systemd free"?
no it's debian
Mine looks different than urs
KDE 3 was pre-internet? wtf are you on about. The whole KDE project is post World Wide Web let alone the internet that existed two or more decades before.
KDE 3 was launched in 2002!
ngl to you, apart from how functional this DE can be (as all DE are) --- UI wise looks like an absolute garbage. Maybe not for me.