Yes, I agree. With this quality of video and information I need my notebook 📓 to write notes. [Class CONTROL ARMS 3002] [Professor: Hugo “El Teco” Caesar Silvia Pérez De La Cruz Mendoza Sr.] 😅
I have beat the brakes off my SPC's and been happy with them. They warrantied the BJ after about two years of abuse and sent me replacements. What I really appreciate is their outstanding customer support.
Love your vids- instant sub.. I have a ‘10 FJ with the Camburg UCAs in the vid- the handling improvement alone after a lift was worth it as this it is also a daily
Just wanted to say nice video guys after a lot of research and your video was very helpful I decided to go spc upper control arms and I’m very satisfied with the outcome it made all the difference in the world
Extremely knowledgeable! I am building my custom suspension for my 2020 Tundra. It is a daily driver, but will overland and light offroad with it, travel, and occasionally haul, so I don't need anything too crazy. I just want to lift my truck, but have the reliability, quality, and capability. After this I am definitely, for my application, am getting the Camburg UCA's. Great video and thanks for helping me understand the differences between the brands UCA's. I was debating between Freedom Offroad, Bilstein, Camburg, and JBA's, and Icon. Wheew...tough competition and tough choice. I don't need anything too crazy because i am not rock climbing or doing heavy off-roading with my Tundra since it's my daily as well. I do plan on buying a Tacoma built for overlanding/off-roading in the future, in a few years after I retire from the service.
You guys rock. Thank you for this video. I now have a path forward. This video is really helpful and I would love to see the LCA video. I am running SPC and they have failed once, going to move to something stronger and more durable. I'm not afraid of the maintenance.
If you guys did this video with some information about what kinds of forces the UCA and UBJ endure, it would be a Toyota owner must-see. If you did, though, it would reveal that most of these options are overkill for anything that isn’t desert racing… even the SPC is overkill for any trail you can get an IFS vehicle up. Any Toyota truck owner looking to mod should watch this video. ⭐️
Just for knowledge sharing's sake, not at all a criticism. Those Dobinson UCAs are drop forged 6082 aluminum then CNC machined, not actually billet. Most of the billet arms on the market (Icon, Camburg, etc) are made from 6061. Good info!
Dobinsons Billet > have had SPC, balljoints don't last even with regular Moly grease application, almost every set ive installed has come back for balljoints within 2-3 years. Thats ridiculious imho... Have had Dobinsons standard duty, they are good but couldn't get the alignment perfect so jumped on the billet soon as they came out. You don't really see any BJ or bushing failures with the factory style parts. Install and keep them clean, like you said and forget about them. The rest, no so much...
I need something that can take the abuse of working in a steel mill. Tons of train tracks and the muck of slag/mud mix so being sealed off from the debris is an absolute must for me + the 50 mile highway drive. Might end up with some Icon delta UCA's
@@foskco87 Mickey Thompson Baja Boss 295s. They rub on the UCA. I was told by jba it's because the tires I have have big size walls, which makes it a bit thicker of a wheel in certain spots, in the spot right where the UPC is, so it rubs. I need to add a thin spacer to fix this, haven't done it yet.
Very informative video. I can definitely see the benefits of aftermarket upper control arms, especially as regards geometry correction. But most of these strike me as somewhat overbuilt for most needs. I especially struggle with the cost of upper control arms. The price seems so high given the relative simplicity. A really high ratio of cost to intrinsic value I feel.
Love the detailed analysis! Is there a reason you didn’t cover the Ironman UCA? I’m building out a 2012 FJ Cruiser Trail Teams Special Edition to overland. Nothing crazy…just running established trails with a RTT, steel front and rear bumpers. Based on those variables, what UCA would you recommend? Thank you!
Awesome video man! The only thing i disagree with is the SPC i run those right now and worst ever! My ball joints and upper control arms are always breaking i have no clue as to why! Im changin now yo JBA heard alot of good stuff abiut then
Hello, good evening, I just saw your video about different upper arms for trucks and I needed to know for a 4 runner 2021, I want to install a 3-inch lift kit with 285,70,17 tires for daily use but with offroad ideas, which upper arm could I use? recommend that they are not so expensive by the way I love this kind of information about upper control arm
Why would a non adjustable , high caster UCA go to a specialized alignment shop ? It’s literally no different than adjusting factory suspension just with a bit more caster pre-built into them.
Hi all! Thank you for such good video! Could you please advise 🙏 What is the best UCA option for on-road usage? Like 95 % on-road and 5 % light off-roading. Thanks for reply!
Love this video, I have a 2021 4Runner 4X4, with Eibach suspension, Front PRO-TRUCK Coilover 2.0's, Rear PRO-TRUCK Reservoir Shocks and the Load Leveling System. Which upper or lower control arms will go perfect with my system? iIts my daily drive and off road as well.
If you are daily driving it and you don't do much off-roading, You can use SPC uppers. Also, If you go bigger tires and do a lot of wheeling. Total Chaos is your best choice. There is no need to change out the lower control arms.
My x axis joints on my spc uppers already have play in them after a little over a year. I dont wheel hard at all. Also they are out of stock everywhere at the moment, so I imagine there is a lot of people with the same problem right now. Pretty salty about this.
@@xack5810 I doubt it makes any difference if you are original owner or not as vehicles change hands all the time and they can tell by serial numbers when it got made etc. to see if it was in the era of the defect batches. I had 2 pairs warrantied and I didn't even lift a finger or deal with SPC directly for it. The 4x4 shop I had my lift done at was inspecting everyone with SPCs and SPC fully owned the issue and gave anyone with X-axis issues new ones. I know sometimes companies try to deflect everything and wiggle out of it but that was not my experience at all. Newest pair is fine after 2 years use.
The forged steel attribute of the SPC arms was not mentioned, they are way stronger than welded tube UCAs. True, SBC is an alignment centric company, but remember SPC bought Bryan Kudela’s Light Racing company. Bryan is literally the godfather of the trophy truck. Otherwise great video.
What no one really talks about is wha the built in high caster does. They all push the tire closer to the cab mount thereby causing tire rub. It would be much smarter to use an adjustable lower control arm. But so far I’ve inklusive found one manufacture that makes one that pushes the tire 1” forward away from the cab mount and thereby increasing positive caster.
The tubular designs like icon w/ the delta joint or the accutune will always grant more sidewall clearance. The JBA's are the worst for sidewall clearance issues when fitting larger tires.
Other than SPC. Which of these UCA’s are adjustable for castor and camber? I didn’t catch this on this video. I’m adding 305 or 315’s on my 4runner. DD, weekend warrior and more advanced trails. Right now I have icon deltas
Dobinsons billet. Comes with a spacer for the back side for high caster or move it to the front side for standard caster and the bushing eyelets are threaded and can be adjusted during a normal alignment procedure.
I had JBAs and the boots failed and cracked on mine and my buddies within 3 months. Be VERY careful when you buy JBAs and make sure they have the updated boot and hopefully that truly fixed the problem because I had to go out spend more money on a different set of UCAs. Great content!
Lol you didn’t have to go out and spend more money, you just needed a new boot. JBA has pretty good customer service, I bet they would have sent you a new boot.
If you don't need super adjustable. Stock if just fine. I've been wheeling with my stock upper arm for years out here in AZ. 0 issues they do not max out before your CVS anyway. So popping ball joints is a non issue for the fj.
quick question, does the icon or old man emu provide more clearance than 4runner stock? I need to run the reservoir hose of the BP-51 under it and I don't want to arm to jam/compress on the hose.
The red JBA's are attractive but the adjustability of the SPC is optimal but there all have Goods and bads including the billet models and just not easy to choose total chaos also has flat style over tubular as an option
Doing alignments on the style that adjust at the upper mounts freaking sucks. Takes a lot of time I have installed many many Toyota coilover kits. Icon box design is what I installed the most
Twan…. With off-roading and overlanding getting so popular, and people trying to take advantage of the aftermarket parts, what are some ways to ensure you’re going to a quality off road shop? I know for instance there is a local “off road” shop that some praise, but others have had terrible experiences. If you’re new to this stuff, what are some questions to ask or things to look out for when choosing a shop?
Hey! I would talk to the shop and get a feel for it. Here at R4T, we don't try to sell any particular product to you. We will always ask what you are using the truck for and then advise you which route to take depending on your budget. If a shop tells you to get this and that without any explanation of how it works, then I would be more worried.
SPC has fantastic customer support but they really don't last. In 20k miles the ball joints went bad and in 25k the bushings went bad. They replaced everything no questions asked but its a love hate relationship for me since they don't last but they stand by their product
To say that a billet design is always stronger than a tubular design is not entirely correct. The main reason a company would create a billet design is to have it perform mechanically as intended while also having greater dimensional control because of the machining process. Additionally there is no welding so it removes that procedure out of the manufacturing process. I would almost guarantee the number one reason Total Chaos does not do a billet is because of cost and their internal expertise. They can get the same amount of performance out of tubular design and remove the machining procedure out of their manufacturing process. Tubular is going to be cheaper to manufacture when compared to running and maintaining a $100k CNC machine. Also you cannot judge the strength of tube by just the outer diameter; the inner diameter and material are equally important factors.
Wrong on why they all use tube.. they do tubing because it's cheaper and more cost effective to make. And I've also heard that straight from horses mouth. Even solo Motorsports went from boxed upper arms to tube because it's easier and faster to make..
So much misleading info in the industry. 1. The uca takes no real bending load. It just keeps the upper suspension vertical and takes horizontal load only. Lots of hype. 2. The real variables are bushing longevity.and corrosion for some. Also clearing some larger coils. Avoid urethane! Terrible cheap bushing. Any helm joints are for racing, not a wise choice for most. rubber rules; Best shock absorption. 3. 90% of us want easy maintenance. Meaning use of stock ball joints. Low cost, always available. No need for super flexible ball joints 30:41 unless building 3 or 4 inch lifted rock crawler which is 5% of us. Stock is great. 4. most dont know that stock uca is good for 2 to 2.5 lift and alignment is set in LOWER control arm which moves tire FORWARD to clear. Adding caster up top moves wheel back which is bad for clearance. 5. You can clear 34 inch tires by avoiding wheel spacers, using 2 inch lift. Using simple uca, keeping wheel/tire inboard. Dont buy into thinking these uca’s are going to solve problems. If ever a uca breaks, many other parts would be trashed, they are not a weak link! Get ball joints that are reliable and available at any parts store. And very few people would ever adjust a uca laterally. Sure, for alignment at the ball joint for large lift perhaps. First move the LCA FORWARD!! Marketing hype is out of control. Consult a real engineer.
Ive had SPC on my 1st Gen tundra since 20’ and have beat the snot out of them with no issues. I just purchased another 1st Gen to build and the price for the SPC have gone up over $200! Now I’m looking at other brands that are cheaper. Damn Biden’s America has ruined prices!!😂
So much misleading info in the industry. 1. The uca takes no real bending load. It just keeps the upper suspension vertical and takes horizontal load only. Lots of hype. 2. The real variables are bushing longevity.and corrosion for some. Also clearing some larger coils. Avoid urethane! Terrible cheap bushing. Any helm joints are for racing, not a wise choice for most. rubber rules; Best shock absorption. 3. 90% of us want easy maintenance. Meaning use of stock ball joints. Low cost, always available. No need for super flexible ball joints 30:41 unless building 3 or 4 inch lifted rock crawler which is 5% of us. Stock is great. 4. most dont know that stock uca is good for 2 to 2.5 lift and alignment is set in LOWER control arm which moves tire FORWARD to clear. Adding caster up top moves wheel back which is bad for clearance. 5. You can clear 34 inch tires by avoiding wheel spacers, using 2 inch lift. Using simple uca, keeping wheel/tire inboard. Dont buy into thinking these uca’s are going to solve problems. If ever a uca breaks, many other parts would be trashed, they are not a weak link! Get ball joints that are reliable and available at any parts store. And very few people would ever adjust a uca laterally. Sure, for alignment at the ball joint for large lift perhaps. First move the LCA FORWARD!! Marketing hype is out of control. Consult a real engineer.
SPC- @ :40 - $700
Icon- @ 2:43 - $850
JBA- @ 5:07 - $560
JBA HD- @ 5:07 - $800
Dirt King- @ 7:52 - $650
Dirt King Boxed- @ 9:40 - $1,000
Total Chaos- @ 10:56 - $930
Camburg- @ 14:14 - $1,100
Dobinson- @ 17:30 - $800
Dobinson Billet- @19:27 - $1200
Prices vary due to sales. All for a 3rd gen Tacoma !
Please put chapter markers with the product names… 😩😩😩
Yes, I agree. With this quality of video and information I need my notebook 📓 to write notes.
[Class CONTROL ARMS 3002]
[Professor: Hugo “El Teco” Caesar Silvia Pérez De La Cruz Mendoza Sr.] 😅
Hugo has great knowledge. Presents the product very nicely
I have beat the brakes off my SPC's and been happy with them. They warrantied the BJ after about two years of abuse and sent me replacements. What I really appreciate is their outstanding customer support.
I’m torn between SPC and JBA for price reason. JBA almost half the cost.
I like them pretty red JBAs
So nice to see this man has done his homework and is a master of his craft. Wish yalll were in Texas. Maybe that’s a good excuse for a CO trip
Love your vids- instant sub.. I have a ‘10 FJ with the Camburg UCAs in the vid- the handling improvement alone after a lift was worth it as this it is also a daily
Making a choice is so hard and there are even more options then what's on the table
I enjoying seeing the growth of aftermarket support for Toyata and import auto manufactures.
Hugo is great. He's so knowledgeable... competent dude. Thanks to both of you!
Just wanted to say nice video guys after a lot of research and your video was very helpful I decided to go spc upper control arms and I’m very satisfied with the outcome it made all the difference in the world
Extremely knowledgeable! I am building my custom suspension for my 2020 Tundra. It is a daily driver, but will overland and light offroad with it, travel, and occasionally haul, so I don't need anything too crazy. I just want to lift my truck, but have the reliability, quality, and capability. After this I am definitely, for my application, am getting the Camburg UCA's. Great video and thanks for helping me understand the differences between the brands UCA's. I was debating between Freedom Offroad, Bilstein, Camburg, and JBA's, and Icon. Wheew...tough competition and tough choice. I don't need anything too crazy because i am not rock climbing or doing heavy off-roading with my Tundra since it's my daily as well. I do plan on buying a Tacoma built for overlanding/off-roading in the future, in a few years after I retire from the service.
how have they been?
Oiga! Que tal Hugo!!!! Hice tus tareas güey yo aprendí mucho.
Gracias 🙏
I like the JBAs!Great comparison.
You guys rock. Thank you for this video. I now have a path forward. This video is really helpful and I would love to see the LCA video.
I am running SPC and they have failed once, going to move to something stronger and more durable. I'm not afraid of the maintenance.
Did you keep your SPC
If you guys did this video with some information about what kinds of forces the UCA and UBJ endure, it would be a Toyota owner must-see. If you did, though, it would reveal that most of these options are overkill for anything that isn’t desert racing… even the SPC is overkill for any trail you can get an IFS vehicle up. Any Toyota truck owner looking to mod should watch this video. ⭐️
Just for knowledge sharing's sake, not at all a criticism. Those Dobinson UCAs are drop forged 6082 aluminum then CNC machined, not actually billet. Most of the billet arms on the market (Icon, Camburg, etc) are made from 6061. Good info!
Just for knowledge sake, BILLET is a process, not a type or grade of aluminum.
would love to see one of these breakdowns for leaf springs
I went with SPC's because it was an entry level into fitting 33's.
I may go this route for my 285s
Hugo is a great dude! He did me a solid last year
Hugooooooo!! You told me about Animas Forks when my daughter and I visited R4T last July!!!! Thank you so much bro!!!
Thay talk about tire rubbin the uca and how alignment will fix this.. 😊
Thanks for sharing all the helpful
fasts!
My year old SPC's failed at the frame bushings... The new style bushings have huge failure rates.
Excellent video, well explained.
Dobinsons Billet >
have had SPC, balljoints don't last even with regular Moly grease application, almost every set ive installed has come back for balljoints within 2-3 years. Thats ridiculious imho... Have had Dobinsons standard duty, they are good but couldn't get the alignment perfect so jumped on the billet soon as they came out. You don't really see any BJ or bushing failures with the factory style parts. Install and keep them clean, like you said and forget about them. The rest, no so much...
Great video guys answered so many questions for me
I need something that can take the abuse of working in a steel mill. Tons of train tracks and the muck of slag/mud mix so being sealed off from the debris is an absolute must for me + the 50 mile highway drive. Might end up with some Icon delta UCA's
JBA HD for sure!! We use them in South America Amazon Jungle on severe roads where many other brands mentioned above fail in short order.
Aluminum actually has a higher tensile strength over steel @16:08
Such an awesome video 🙌🔥
What about the Bilstein UCAs?
Exactly. I have them on my Tundra… great product.
Ended up getting the JBA HD High Caster Upper Control Arms, but now I'm rubbing on my tire on full turn. I already have a -12 offset rim
what size tires are you running? Are they rubbing against the UCA or something else?
@@foskco87 Mickey Thompson Baja Boss 295s. They rub on the UCA. I was told by jba it's because the tires I have have big size walls, which makes it a bit thicker of a wheel in certain spots, in the spot right where the UPC is, so it rubs.
I need to add a thin spacer to fix this, haven't done it yet.
Very informative video. I can definitely see the benefits of aftermarket upper control arms, especially as regards geometry correction. But most of these strike me as somewhat overbuilt for most needs. I especially struggle with the cost of upper control arms. The price seems so high given the relative simplicity. A really high ratio of cost to intrinsic value I feel.
I totally agree. UCAs are overkill for the average person
Love the detailed analysis! Is there a reason you didn’t cover the Ironman UCA? I’m building out a 2012 FJ Cruiser Trail Teams Special Edition to overland. Nothing crazy…just running established trails with a RTT, steel front and rear bumpers. Based on those variables, what UCA would you recommend? Thank you!
Nice review
Awesome video man! The only thing i disagree with is the SPC i run those right now and worst ever! My ball joints and upper control arms are always breaking i have no clue as to why! Im changin now yo JBA heard alot of good stuff abiut then
Did you end up switching?
Great video i use Camburg billet. Can you please do a video on the Spindle and what are the best LCA Dirt king or Total Chaos 😊😊😊😊
Hows that going? How the alignment?
Great. On my 2012 FJ cruiser.
Hello, good evening, I just saw your video about different upper arms for trucks and I needed to know for a 4 runner 2021, I want to install a 3-inch lift kit with 285,70,17 tires for daily use but with offroad ideas, which upper arm could I use? recommend that they are not so expensive by the way I love this kind of information about upper control arm
Why would a non adjustable , high caster UCA go to a specialized alignment shop ? It’s literally no different than adjusting factory suspension just with a bit more caster pre-built into them.
I agree. I had Toyota align my Tacoma with JBA. They got it dialed.
Hi all!
Thank you for such good video!
Could you please advise 🙏
What is the best UCA option for on-road usage? Like 95 % on-road and 5 % light off-roading. Thanks for reply!
Love this video, I have a 2021 4Runner 4X4, with Eibach suspension, Front PRO-TRUCK Coilover 2.0's, Rear PRO-TRUCK Reservoir Shocks and the Load Leveling System. Which upper or lower control arms will go perfect with my system? iIts my daily drive and off road as well.
If you are daily driving it and you don't do much off-roading, You can use SPC uppers. Also, If you go bigger tires and do a lot of wheeling. Total Chaos is your best choice. There is no need to change out the lower control arms.
My x axis joints on my spc uppers already have play in them after a little over a year. I dont wheel hard at all. Also they are out of stock everywhere at the moment, so I imagine there is a lot of people with the same problem right now. Pretty salty about this.
this is a known warranty issue - find the serial numbers and get in touch with SPC
I have bad play in mine too. What if you got the SPC's second hand, will they warranty them?@@Langhorstiness
@@xack5810 I doubt it makes any difference if you are original owner or not as vehicles change hands all the time and they can tell by serial numbers when it got made etc. to see if it was in the era of the defect batches. I had 2 pairs warrantied and I didn't even lift a finger or deal with SPC directly for it. The 4x4 shop I had my lift done at was inspecting everyone with SPCs and SPC fully owned the issue and gave anyone with X-axis issues new ones. I know sometimes companies try to deflect everything and wiggle out of it but that was not my experience at all. Newest pair is fine after 2 years use.
@@jayson1710 I was not invoiced for the labour but it's not much time to just swap out arms and realign.
Any thoughts on the UCA frome Nitro Gear??
Great video…I lifted my taco 2 inches and want to upgrade my uca but it’s between dirt kings and dobinsons…what would recommend?
Please make a long travel suspension video
The forged steel attribute of the SPC arms was not mentioned, they are way stronger than welded tube UCAs. True, SBC is an alignment centric company, but remember SPC bought Bryan Kudela’s Light Racing company. Bryan is literally the godfather of the trophy truck. Otherwise great video.
Anybody mess with KSP?
What no one really talks about is wha the built in high caster does. They all push the tire closer to the cab mount thereby causing tire rub. It would be much smarter to use an adjustable lower control arm. But so far I’ve inklusive found one manufacture that makes one that pushes the tire 1” forward away from the cab mount and thereby increasing positive caster.
Hi, what about OME UCA?
Super informative comparison. Thank you!
What is the best UCA to clear 285/75r16 for wheels that are 16x8 with -20 offset? I plan to do 2.5 lift in the front and 1.5 lift in the back.
The tubular designs like icon w/ the delta joint or the accutune will always grant more sidewall clearance. The JBA's are the worst for sidewall clearance issues when fitting larger tires.
Other than SPC. Which of these UCA’s are adjustable for castor and camber? I didn’t catch this on this video. I’m adding 305 or 315’s on my 4runner. DD, weekend warrior and more advanced trails. Right now I have icon deltas
Dobinsons billet. Comes with a spacer for the back side for high caster or move it to the front side for standard caster and the bushing eyelets are threaded and can be adjusted during a normal alignment procedure.
TC for the win 🏆 in my opinion
Which one is easiest to get an alignment on? I live in a small town and the nearest off road specific shop is 3 hours away.
Where do you think the Nitro UCAs fall in this lineup? They’re also sealed, so I assume they’re comparable to the Icons
Any opinion on the OME UCA’s?
I had JBAs and the boots failed and cracked on mine and my buddies within 3 months. Be VERY careful when you buy JBAs and make sure they have the updated boot and hopefully that truly fixed the problem because I had to go out spend more money on a different set of UCAs. Great content!
mine just cracked after 1 year of minimal abuse
They had a bad batch of boots. They warranty them and send you new boots for free.
Lol you didn’t have to go out and spend more money, you just needed a new boot. JBA has pretty good customer service, I bet they would have sent you a new boot.
That's a non issue. JBA will send you the updated version free.
Recomendations for an FJ cruiser to add 2" ½ lift and almost stock tires sizes.
Depends on how deep your pockets are. Bilstein for a budget build. Fox and Kings for the deep pocket build. 😁
What type of cleaner do you guys use for cleaning the upper uniball for total chaos?
Great video! What’s your opinion on OME UCA?
If you don't need super adjustable. Stock if just fine. I've been wheeling with my stock upper arm for years out here in AZ. 0 issues they do not max out before your CVS anyway. So popping ball joints is a non issue for the fj.
quick question, does the icon or old man emu provide more clearance than 4runner stock? I need to run the reservoir hose of the BP-51 under it and I don't want to arm to jam/compress on the hose.
The red JBA's are attractive but the adjustability of the SPC is optimal but there all have Goods and bads including the billet models and just not easy to choose total chaos also has flat style over tubular as an option
Doing alignments on the style that adjust at the upper mounts freaking sucks. Takes a lot of time I have installed many many Toyota coilover kits. Icon box design is what I installed the most
Twan…. With off-roading and overlanding getting so popular, and people trying to take advantage of the aftermarket parts, what are some ways to ensure you’re going to a quality off road shop? I know for instance there is a local “off road” shop that some praise, but others have had terrible experiences. If you’re new to this stuff, what are some questions to ask or things to look out for when choosing a shop?
Hey! I would talk to the shop and get a feel for it. Here at R4T, we don't try to sell any particular product to you. We will always ask what you are using the truck for and then advise you which route to take depending on your budget. If a shop tells you to get this and that without any explanation of how it works, then I would be more worried.
Hey do you guys have any info on the Afe upper control arm?
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SPC has fantastic customer support but they really don't last. In 20k miles the ball joints went bad and in 25k the bushings went bad. They replaced everything no questions asked but its a love hate relationship for me since they don't last but they stand by their product
JBA Dosnt require bolts to be slackened to grease them due to design of bushings.
Icon billet isn't there
Great informative vid!
Jba all the way!
I was very disappointed with the JBA upper control arms for my Chevy Silverado
I have Dirt Kings on my 4runner.
Hey do they make any noise on street?
@@andresmuniz1257 no noise, that goes for off-road too.
anyone have any info on Freedom Offroad UCA's for a 4runner ?
How can I get jba HD red upper control arms for my 2016 4x4 tacoma
JBA sells them in red.
Max is looking good! Es must be sticking to the diet.
I have the Icon tubular UCRs. They have squeaked since day one. I’m not sure if anyone has experienced this as well?
Are freedoms worth a damn?
The juice!!
No Ironman uca's?
They are recalled. Google there is a post with photo’s showing what happened to a forum members.
@John.ThirteenPoint6969 I thought it was just the balls that were recalled.
@@derekwoodcock2510 Look it up man, there’s actual photos showing otherwise.
@John.ThirteenPoint6969 yeah I went to ironmans site and they also state it is the ball that was recalled.
@@derekwoodcock2510 Do you watch and believe the news too? Do whatever you want lol idc
To say that a billet design is always stronger than a tubular design is not entirely correct. The main reason a company would create a billet design is to have it perform mechanically as intended while also having greater dimensional control because of the machining process. Additionally there is no welding so it removes that procedure out of the manufacturing process. I would almost guarantee the number one reason Total Chaos does not do a billet is because of cost and their internal expertise. They can get the same amount of performance out of tubular design and remove the machining procedure out of their manufacturing process. Tubular is going to be cheaper to manufacture when compared to running and maintaining a $100k CNC machine.
Also you cannot judge the strength of tube by just the outer diameter; the inner diameter and material are equally important factors.
run my SPCs hard in the desert they are extremely strong due to being forged, just as strong as a tubular.
Wrong on why they all use tube.. they do tubing because it's cheaper and more cost effective to make. And I've also heard that straight from horses mouth. Even solo Motorsports went from boxed upper arms to tube because it's easier and faster to make..
Not sure about your statement "A lot more articulation than factory". ua-cam.com/video/InQnp42pfts/v-deo.html 5:30
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Everything else make a noises and ain’t adjustable
So much misleading info in the industry.
1. The uca takes no real bending load. It just keeps the upper suspension vertical and takes horizontal load only. Lots of hype.
2. The real variables are bushing longevity.and corrosion for some. Also clearing some larger coils. Avoid urethane! Terrible cheap bushing. Any helm joints are for racing, not a wise choice for most. rubber rules; Best shock absorption.
3. 90% of us want easy maintenance. Meaning use of stock ball joints. Low cost, always available. No need for super flexible ball joints 30:41 unless building 3 or 4 inch lifted rock crawler which is 5% of us. Stock is great.
4. most dont know that stock uca is good for 2 to 2.5 lift and alignment is set in LOWER control arm which moves tire FORWARD to clear. Adding caster up top moves wheel back which is bad for clearance.
5. You can clear 34 inch tires by avoiding wheel spacers, using 2 inch lift. Using simple uca, keeping wheel/tire inboard.
Dont buy into thinking these uca’s are going to solve problems. If ever a uca breaks, many other parts would be trashed, they are not a weak link!
Get ball joints that are reliable and available at any parts store. And very few people would ever adjust a uca laterally. Sure, for alignment at the ball joint for large lift perhaps. First move the LCA FORWARD!!
Marketing hype is out of control. Consult a real engineer.
SPC bushings will fail!!!!! FYI!!
Uniballs are a squeeky pain in the ass. Theyre not great for a daily driver. Race trucks swap them out all the time.
Just once I want to hear him say “incorrect”
my street truck has camburg uniballs. don't want them to break . Toyota
Spc is the best upper control arm.
Ive had SPC on my 1st Gen tundra since 20’ and have beat the snot out of them with no issues. I just purchased another 1st Gen to build and the price for the SPC have gone up over $200! Now I’m looking at other brands that are cheaper. Damn Biden’s America has ruined prices!!😂
What about old man emu
Old man emu kits are meant for weight. Not really the best kit for a lift.
Great video…I lifted my taco 2 inches and want to upgrade my uca but it’s between dirt kings and dobinsons…what would recommend?
So much misleading info in the industry.
1. The uca takes no real bending load. It just keeps the upper suspension vertical and takes horizontal load only. Lots of hype.
2. The real variables are bushing longevity.and corrosion for some. Also clearing some larger coils. Avoid urethane! Terrible cheap bushing. Any helm joints are for racing, not a wise choice for most. rubber rules; Best shock absorption.
3. 90% of us want easy maintenance. Meaning use of stock ball joints. Low cost, always available. No need for super flexible ball joints 30:41 unless building 3 or 4 inch lifted rock crawler which is 5% of us. Stock is great.
4. most dont know that stock uca is good for 2 to 2.5 lift and alignment is set in LOWER control arm which moves tire FORWARD to clear. Adding caster up top moves wheel back which is bad for clearance.
5. You can clear 34 inch tires by avoiding wheel spacers, using 2 inch lift. Using simple uca, keeping wheel/tire inboard.
Dont buy into thinking these uca’s are going to solve problems. If ever a uca breaks, many other parts would be trashed, they are not a weak link!
Get ball joints that are reliable and available at any parts store. And very few people would ever adjust a uca laterally. Sure, for alignment at the ball joint for large lift perhaps. First move the LCA FORWARD!!
Marketing hype is out of control. Consult a real engineer.