The Long And Winding Road (Isolated Bass)
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- Опубліковано 18 лют 2022
- Let It Be 1970
Bass (1968 Fender Bass VI): John Lennon
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A little untidy but not as bad as history would lead us to believe.
I've got a fender VI- they're probably easier to play if you're coming at the task as a guitarist, & using a pick. I do think, though, that either john or george would've fared better on the righty fender jazz that was also kicking around by then.
@@duncan-rmi George played Fender VI and Jazz Bass pretty well. It's just John and bass guitar is not a good combination.
@@gilassp Right on!
Just like the Let It Be sessions. Lol.
Dude, this is worse than history lead me to believe. John plays like he was just handed a bass guitar for the first time in his life.
"I'm an artist, man," said John Lennon. "Give me a tuba, and I'll get you something out of it."
¡Y les sacó la m... a tubazos!
Chad Lennon
Just dont give him a bass 😬
Oh its somethin alright
Then what a pity they didn't give him a tuba.
Also, I think he's mistaking himself for Paul with that statement.
it’s not that bad guys. not every song needs a busy bassline
The issue isn’t that it’s sparse it’s that the notes don’t work
@@oggabob they work fine, it sounds like he's literally just playing the roots of the chords that Paul is playing on the piano
@@ashdeensometimes the guy isn't playing the root even, this bassline is quite bizzare.
@@ashdeenYou can't hear the piano here but he isn't always, no. He hits some flagrantly wrong notes. The timing is a little sloppy too in the whole track.
@@oggabob There is nothing wrong with "the notes." Tell me which ones don't work (give me a time stamp or just write it down). I'd love to hear specifically what you 're referring to. I think he hits one wrong note in the entire song, but they didn't have the ability to "punch in" back then and fix tracks.
I don’t actually mind the slide ups the neck, I’ve always enjoyed that part.
If anything, it's just a bit loud in the mix, but that is not John's fault.
After being forced to play Maxwells silver hammer a 1000 times you'd mess up Paul's baselines too
To think John was playing based on how Paul wanted him to play the bass on the song. You can see it in the Get Back documentary that Paul was humming to John where the bass should come in and the tempo.
John played what Paul told him to because he wouldn't have been able to play anything else. Really wasn't his instrument
@@jaydenwhitlen1489 John can play bass, it’s just that isn’t technical on it compared to George’s attempts on bass, as he can only play the bare minimum. He is aware of the root notes on the bass, and you can see him playing individually in the 1st episode on the first attempt for Let It Be. Remember Helter Skelter, that’s him attempting to play chords on the bass that ended up in clunks.
@@Rey__Jan Paul actually plays bass on the final take of Helter Skelter but John played on an earlier take which leads to the misconception he played on the finished version.
@@jaydenwhitlen1489 where did you hear or read about this? Even Giles Martin in the 2019 anniversary record writes down John as bass player for Helter Skelter. Beatles historian Mark Lewisohn, who went through every studio session of the Beatles, also taps John for bass. I can’t find any argument that Paul did bass on Helter Skelter because it was recorded that Paul did lead guitar with his Epiphone Casino during the White Album Sessions.
@@Rey__Jan The lead guitar part that Paul plays was overdubbed later.
commenting before listening - I am dreading this.
¡Amo el bajo, aquí!...
¡Me encanta el sonido, las notas, los tiempos, los silencios...!
The bass is pretty buried but hearing it like this...yeah, it sounds like he's just faking his way through it.
What about the electric piano on the Naked version? While the guitar and the electric piano are essentially buried in all versions of this song, the electric piano takes a solo on the Naked version, and you can hear the contributions from George Harrison (guitar) and Billy Preston (electric piano) pretty good in that mix.
Hammond organ.
@@elecale In the movie, Billy Preston is seen playing a Hammond organ. However, the song's Wikipedia article says that he played electric piano. As for the performance in the movie, I'd say that they spliced in footage of him playing the organ on some other song, but that's just my speculation, and it's far from conclusive. I apologize for being unnecessarily verbose.
his playing is a little off but still cool to hear john playing bass lol
Not John’s finest moment.
I don't play guitar or bass, but the playing here sounds like someone learning how to play bass.
@@thehighllama8101what especially sucks is John is actually pretty decent at bass
We can't charge too much of John on this playing, he was never a bass player, George played bass much better, just look at the bass line he did on She said she said, John here looks like he's learning to play bass while recording the song.
sounds like yokos vocals at 25% speed. makes perfect sense
If Paul didnt like John's Bass playing on LAWR, why didnt he replace it with his own? He had no trouble before!!!
because they had adopted this "none of your jiggery-pokery" ethos (lennon's words, to martin) for these sessions. several times during the peter jackson remix of 'let it be', you can hear lennon allude to this.... no overdubs.
by the time spector had been drafted in to ruin glyn johns' mixes, all this was forgotten.
Perhaps Paul recorded a better bass track for LIB because it was going out a single. They also did the same for Don't Let Me Down (even if it was a B-side) because apparently some vocals were redone after the recording of the selected take - so much for the "no overdubs" approach. Around the time of the release of the album apparently they were all busy with their own problems and the band split, so nobody really cared too much about the album and the movie.
@@duncan-rmi I belive his words were "we don't want any of your production $#!7" but even before Spector this whole "raw, no overdubs" approach was broken because John did some vocal stuff for Don't Let Me Down and Paul replaced the bass track (and perhaps more work was done) in Let It Be during production of that single.
Wow! Besides only a few flubs, John actually doesn't do too badly.
Its actually pretty rough. He is hitting several wrong notes and its pretty sloppy. I don't know why they left it on there. its low enough in the mix to where it didn't stand out I guess
Those were my thoughts. It’s not extremely terrible, for someone who’s had little to none experience on the instrument. Still not great, but not as bad as I thought I’d be before listening to the isolated bass.
@@psyche234its very bad actually😂 its like john lennon had enough for today and wants to go to sleep
@@earld158 Which wrong notes would those be?
ah, a true brit at heart
great musician- I personally like this bass lines! :)
The Let it Be…..Naked version of this song is still the best version.
No, it's not. The Phil Spector version is much better.
@@bazingacurta2567 no, it's not
@@pacocaquinhasz Yes, it is. Maybe you should unclog your ears or develop your music taste, or both.
@@bazingacurta2567 ok boomer
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That's not that bad! There's even an arrangement on the bridge not playing the root notes. That's John's musical voice on bass. Love it
Apparently the same person playing this also played bass on album version of Helter Skelter and While My Guitar Gently Weeps, right? :)
@@AB-mt9nf John played bass only on rehearsal slow takes of Helter Skelter. In Get Back mini-series he doesn't seem to be non-functioning junkie and handled guitar just fine, but his bass playing on many takes of Let It Be and TLAWR is just below mediocre. Paul played his Jazz Bass on album versions of Helter Skelter and While My Guitar Gently Weeps.
John played bass on Helter Skelter
On WMGGW its two basses (not 12 string) John on VI and Paul on Jazz. Check out the 50th anniversary book and ably house.
@@ilovemusic7748 Check out the multitrack and studio talk segments from Rock Band and Take 17 of Helter Skelter. The book is not 100% correct information, for example stating Paul alternates between piano and organ on WMGGW when they play at the same time, and piano is a two-handed part.
@@AB-mt9nf How is is "clearly the six string"? Helter Skelter has exactly same bass tone as Yer Blues.
There are two basses on WMGGW watch Ably Houses’s video
It sounds fine to me
Davie504 approves 👍🎸
B A S S
FINE
1:16 is funny
Elevator going Uppp!
Yes
I'd need to hear the piano in the background to really judge how bad it is.
Wdym
@@DLD2Music I mean when I write a song, let's say I play the piano or guitar first and then put in the bass. Hearing the mix with the piano or guitar part turned lower but still audible, you can tell how the 2 tracks are complimenting each other and if you made any mistakes. So if I heard Paul's piano track along with the bass a bit higher in the mix I could tell if it is as bad as they say it is or not.
Yoo, thanks! As I mentioned under another video, it would be cool if you isolated the electric organ (piano?) from the Let it Be Naked version :-)
the electric piano is in all versions (buried)
@@DLD2Music Aye, but my favourite version by far is the Naked one! Not only is the el. piano clearer to hear, I prefer it in every way.
@@Vingul It has a solo on that version.
To quote Alex Call, Huey Lewis, Sean Hopper, John McFee, Micky Shine and Johnny Ciambotti, "I said cool is a rule, but, sometimes, bad is bad"
Would be at home in a Godzilla soundtrack 🤣
I mean, it's not great... but it's not as horrible as some say. Cppl of funky notes and some muffling, overall knida basic, but it's not sooo horrible as alot of ppl say
I think it fits the song nicely. All songs don't need bass runs or slapping to be good.
Decent bass actually but it feels a bit stiff like he’s playing what he’s expected to play but without adding any creative fancy flourishes.
Like that john played the bass but would have also liked to see Paul have a stab at it too.
I wonder if this is the reason you can hardly hear bass in the mix lol
Yes it is
@@DLD2Music oh yes it is
Sounds like John didn't care and butchered the bass part.
It sounds fine.
i mean you can still tell what song it is😬
Tune up please
John really sabotaged this bass playing 😅😂
Says who?
Isolated tracks often sound a bit odd out of context. This is almost exact;y what Paul asked for ua-cam.com/video/9MtLIkk2ihw/v-deo.html
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bro just played open strings half the time lol listin
no era un trabajo de bajo tan chapucero como dicen los críticos alongside the world. a lo mejor paul hubiera "cantado" más con el bajo.
I would not change a note of this bass line . And if there would’ve been any problems with it… It would have been changed then… How did it get past three other Beatles?… The answer is… It’s brilliant!
Not true at all. The album was recorded in a tremendous rush as they only had the studio booked for a limited time and they went in with almost nothing prepared beforehand, as seen in Get Back. They did not have time to go over every single individual part with a fine tooth comb until it was all perfect.
@@PerfectSense77 They also didn't want to. This was meant to be a more or less 'live' album. Any mistakes - and there were many from each of them (except Ringo, of course) - were part of the charm.
Sounds like Maxwell a bit
The song or bass sound
@@DLD2Music Both
What strikes me as odd is that this is rather pedestrian (i.e. artless?!) bass playing with a ditsinct lack of rhythmic crispness. If we can all agree on John's innate musical genius, how can we attribute the sloppiness to the newness of the song, newness of the instrument, etc. (he was a guitarist!)--it just seems like a lack of effort in the moment.
Gotta remember, he wasn't a bassist and was heavily into heroin during this period.
Anyone here want to play bass guitar while high on heroin?
Sounds like a typical friday night
Now that you mention it that sounds pretty fun
So... 'Revolution in the Head' was just a bunch of BS.
it's not perfect, no, but then none of them are. the old adage about 'if you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there' applies to beatles sessions too. lewissohn is gushy fan-boy, emerick is unreliable, mal couldn't remember.... mcdonald does a decent job, but there are mistakes.
I haven't read it so I don't know what it says, but Phil Spector who was brought in to cobble together an album said a few times in the interviews that John's bass playing on this song was awful and borderline sabotage (I'm paraphrasing). Question is why couldn't he just mute the bass track or mix it in very low, instead of trying to drown the whole instrumentation in lush orchestration.
@@gilassp I reckon Spector was unable to mute the bass, there would have been too much spill. If it had been picked as a single before Spector got to it I'd suppose that Paul could have overlaid another bassline a la Let It Be. The question should be: why did Spector use the Glyn Johns' selection rather than the later, arguably better take as used in "Naked'. That take had the Billy Preston organ on it too (the earlier version, as used in the LIB album has no solo, and just has Billy doubling some of Paul's piano in a higher register. George Martin and Paul agreed that it needed a lot more work, but that take ended up being the one that everyone is still arguing about today.
Real amateurism, it's so bad that I feel like Yoko is playing 🤣
This is not bad really, John has great if not one of the greatest musicality ever in history, oido genius level is with John and Paul.
He's not even close to Paul's bass playing. This isn't great at all
And John was always the one going on about Paul sabotaging John’s songs 🙄
Indiscutiblemente, tocando a regaña dientes. Faul dando instrucción de como tocar su balada, pero en Something hizo que lo que quería…
faul(?
qué raro cuestionar el genio de Paul justo en Something, elegiste su mejor laburo
Tu estuviste ahí verdad? Los ibas a ver a los ensayos
@@ezio4406 observa. Hay una parte en que llega Billy, y es presentado como alguien desconocido. Dice George "cuando tocabamos en Hamburgo le gustaba pedir A taste a honey", pero que no esa canción la cantaba Paul. ¿que no lo tenía que saber con antelación?
All fits in well but sounds like a 5 year old playing…. Kinda sloppy 😆
LMAOOOOOOOOO 🤣🤣🤣 Ok John... Um, yeah... No.
There's tons and tons of iconic songs where if you take a track and isolate it it sohnds terrible. Add it back to the mix and then t fits.
¡Que horror! La peor linea de bajo de la historia, hecha para boicotear la canción por parte de Lennon. La interpretación de Paul es infinitamente mejor. Si Paul le hubiera hecho algo similar a John en cualquiera de sus canciones se le habrían echado encima.
OMG what a worst bass line a technical desaster
Ιt is kind of erratic but we never paid true attention to it, until it was pointed out to us. Maybe we thought subconsciously that it sounded kind of strange but not wrong. Funny though that Paul did not care about it either.