The Most Popular Cigar Sizes and The Best Ones For You

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  • @tacoma_jon
    @tacoma_jon 3 роки тому +172

    “That extra inch means a lot which guys understand well”
    Tim actually said it with a straight face 😂😂

    • @maserati4000
      @maserati4000 3 роки тому +7

      he definitely practiced that line so he wouldnt laugh on video lol

    • @hawk66100
      @hawk66100 3 роки тому +4

      It’s not the length in inches it’s girth that matters more. 🤣

    • @CigarsDaily
      @CigarsDaily  3 роки тому +18

      @@hawk66100 "Ring Gauge" - with quote fingers, in Dr. Evil voice.

    • @Dan-gs3kg
      @Dan-gs3kg 2 роки тому +9

      Did no one catch "5 inches are considered 9 inches by many men"?

    • @overindulgence6168
      @overindulgence6168 2 роки тому

      Soo as he said that I sprinted to the comments and was not disappointed

  • @EddieKoisy
    @EddieKoisy 3 роки тому +129

    You are currently the best online cigar-pal out there. I very often find myself with a cut and a light while watching your videos. Cheers from the other side of the planet!

    • @CigarsDaily
      @CigarsDaily  3 роки тому +10

      Thank you so much man! So glad to be able to share the cigar passion!

  • @TheStephenduffin22
    @TheStephenduffin22 3 роки тому +43

    Robusto has remained my go to size since I started cigars, good length of time to smoke and can have 2 when have extra time and want 2 different cigars

    • @trevorbowles7034
      @trevorbowles7034 3 роки тому +4

      The Toyota Camry of cigar sizes indeed 👍

    • @imHim710
      @imHim710 2 роки тому +1

      Bro my first cigar that I smoked was a Robusto #5.

    • @misterc6012
      @misterc6012 7 місяців тому +1

      B/C TIME is my great Un-Equalizer, Robusto is my go to. I can only enJOY a Churchill, Lancero or 2X Corona, once in a great while

  • @smiah1990
    @smiah1990 3 роки тому +31

    A Toro fan. The sweet spot between a Robusto and Churchill👍🏾

  • @BigJesse579
    @BigJesse579 3 роки тому +14

    I’m a truck driver so I’ve usually got 45 minutes to an hour between loads at shippers or receivers so I love the robusto or like the Cain F 550. Just enough to enjoy during my short break while loading or unloading. I don’t smoke in my truck. Great content here. Thanks. - JESSE

    • @johnschwindt3049
      @johnschwindt3049 6 місяців тому

      the serie v Nub is my go to for 45 min smoke.

  • @brianrobey2596
    @brianrobey2596 3 роки тому +22

    I like 6 x60 or 6 x 54. These give me nice long cigar smoke times for me to enjoy on the lake or in front of a fire.

    • @CigarsDaily
      @CigarsDaily  3 роки тому +3

      hell yeah! also, those are two great places to enjoy a cigar!

    • @sammysnipes21
      @sammysnipes21 3 роки тому +1

      Go for Gordo!

  • @LeviDMCD
    @LeviDMCD 3 роки тому +4

    Corona. Perfect smoke time and great wrapper to binder/filler ratio.
    Thanks Cigars Daily!

  • @brianbuchheit2854
    @brianbuchheit2854 3 роки тому +19

    The Toro gives me the best time and most flavor for my palette. Although some Robustos also give great flavor with larger ring gauges. I haven't gotten into the "nubs" yet but I've heard those are great with surprisingly long smoke times. It's so awesome the manufacturers and blenders give us options. Great video Tim! Your team does awesome work and I'm always excited to see your passion. Cheers!!

  • @christopher5706
    @christopher5706 3 роки тому +17

    I like Churchill’s for two reasons: 1. It lasts me all morning and 2. Churchill was awesome!

  • @boogeyman7777
    @boogeyman7777 Рік тому +1

    Your enthusiasm always makes me go light one up. Never fails. Great videos. 👍

  • @wreckitwes5337
    @wreckitwes5337 3 роки тому +9

    As a newer smoker I enjoy a robusto size drew estate factory smokes (maduro). big cigar smoke and flavor but it actually smokes pretty fast at an hour tops for me.

    • @rickdixon9933
      @rickdixon9933 3 роки тому

      Same here...new to cigars and love the Factory Smokes Maduro Robusto.

  • @OriginalOldSkoolFunk
    @OriginalOldSkoolFunk 3 роки тому +16

    I got it Tim. Size matters...😏
    For me, it's Robustos when it's cold out and I want to finish a stick before I freeze to death but I prefer and buy Toro's most of the time. 😤

    • @tijmen131
      @tijmen131 3 роки тому +1

      I cant smoke robustos when its cold. I have to go smaller

    • @OriginalOldSkoolFunk
      @OriginalOldSkoolFunk 3 роки тому +1

      @@tijmen131 I will occasionally smoke Short Story's if I can find them and Nasty and Papas Fritas. Those are 30 minute smokes and helps me get my fix when it's too cold out to smoke a bigger stick.

  • @bUwUmer1260
    @bUwUmer1260 3 роки тому +16

    My most favortie are: Petit Robusto(about 4.5"x50), Corona Gorda (46x6" or so), Perla 4"x40 or so, and Lancero (7"x38 or so)!

    • @CigarsDaily
      @CigarsDaily  3 роки тому +3

      I have seen some of these smaller gauges becoming more popular lately. There's some amazing flavor in those thinner cigars.

    • @trevorbowles7034
      @trevorbowles7034 3 роки тому

      Petit Robusto is definitely the most convenient size I love them

    • @bUwUmer1260
      @bUwUmer1260 3 роки тому

      @@trevorbowles7034 Ye im having a hdm petit robusto atm9

  • @TheChuck5578
    @TheChuck5578 3 роки тому +8

    I was smoking Robusto size cigars for the longest time,, but then asked myself why I just don't get the Toro which is longer. So I switched it up to the Toro. I enjoy a little bit longer of a smoke.

  • @randc47
    @randc47 3 роки тому +4

    Robusto is my favorite. That said, my box has a good assortment of sizes. Variety for the win!

  • @krummdiddlyumptious1784
    @krummdiddlyumptious1784 3 роки тому +1

    Best cigar channel on the good ol UA-cam. Thanks for all the knowledge, my cigar journey is just beginning and you’ve helped guide it since before I even had my first one. Appreciate you.

    • @CigarsDaily
      @CigarsDaily  3 роки тому

      hell yeah! So glad to hear it! I'll keep making the videos as long as you keep enjoying them!

  • @jakebrauner7453
    @jakebrauner7453 3 роки тому +9

    My first cigar was a toro so that's what I tend to enjoy. My favorite range is 6-6.5 in. and 52-54 ring gauge. Occasionally I'll have a Churchill or Robusto if the mood strikes.

  • @Zack-vn7dt
    @Zack-vn7dt 3 роки тому +2

    My favorite cigars fall in the 5-6x52-54 range

  • @lambing50
    @lambing50 Рік тому +1

    My favorite is a Toro. I’m retired, so I have the time to enjoy a larger cigar. Plus, a larger ring gauge allows the blender to get more complex which makes for a richer flavor.

  • @gregpatterson8526
    @gregpatterson8526 3 роки тому +12

    I have to admit, most of the cigars in my humidor are Churchill or Gordo size. But, like Tim said, the blend plays into this a lot also. There are a lot of cigars that I only enjoy in the Robusto or Toro size due to that particular blend!

  • @AlphaSierra375
    @AlphaSierra375 2 роки тому +3

    I love a 6x52 Toro as well! Especially the Undercrown Shade. If I can find it, I often look for Churchills in a 50 Ring gauge. I like to set aside lots of time to enjoy my sticks; enjoying the flavors as long as possible. Especially at the lounge/bar, I could spent a few hours just puffing and sipping whiskey.

  • @cigar.amare.
    @cigar.amare. 2 роки тому

    best cigar channel ever!

  • @nunya1034
    @nunya1034 Рік тому

    “If you’re ain’t first, you’re last” that line alone won my subscription

  • @thorstenskoett5480
    @thorstenskoett5480 3 роки тому +8

    Robusto, Short Robusto or Petit Corona depending on how much time i have

  • @coffeeaddict643
    @coffeeaddict643 2 роки тому +1

    I keep robustos on me for a quick smoke especially when driving or having a cup of coffee. I like to have a Churchill after dinner or when I’m just hanging out somewhere for a while.

  • @olejuniorboy6031
    @olejuniorboy6031 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks Bro Tim, I am learning from you and sharing your classes on cigars, I love Toro sizes and Churchhill sizes on my on time. Thanks for the information✌

  • @V4_Therapy
    @V4_Therapy 3 роки тому +2

    As a new cigar smoker I really like the traditional corona size. It's not to big where I find myself not having enough time or that it is too much to smoke. But also not small so that I can enjoy all of the flavors slowly and recognize the different flavors that other people talk about.

  • @KoMcuk
    @KoMcuk 2 роки тому +4

    I have to say that I enjoy all sizes because they are not only diferent in time how much time you have or you want to smoke but also it brings you diferent experience during snoking. I found that longer cigars often are more changing its flavour during the seassion like churchills and shorter are more stable in flavour through all cigar like NUB460 which I enjoy very much. But perfectos are completely different story because they change a lot from head to the end so those I also enjoy very much. They are like books where you during the story are looking to how it will ends. I like that you are also thining about this aspect of cigars

  • @SMHH....
    @SMHH.... 2 роки тому +6

    I'm a 60+ female who began enjoying premium cigars about 30 years ago with some of my best men friends.
    I started with Macanudo Portofinos 7x34 and it still is among my favorites. I primarily enjoy Lonsdales, because they fit elegantly in smaller hands.

  • @alexblatchford4147
    @alexblatchford4147 10 місяців тому +1

    I smoke with my dad when I watch the Arizona Wildcat football and basketball games. I prefer something thick and big! Maybe a robusto and a churchhill

  • @theemclane4037
    @theemclane4037 3 роки тому +1

    Never smoked a cigar but I have watched all your videos in preparation, I want to start with a Robusto .

  • @alanbritt9645
    @alanbritt9645 3 роки тому +3

    Corona Gorda, Lonsdale, and Lancero are my go-tos, but there's something about smoking a Churchill or A size when you have nothing but time that really pleases me.

  • @aakinwole
    @aakinwole 5 місяців тому

    Toro, Gordo and Churchills.. These are my faves

  • @ajtam05
    @ajtam05 2 роки тому

    I'm a fan of petite corona sizes for my lunch break. 30-40 mins is just great for me. Can't spend my entire lunch hour puffin' away. :)

  • @billa337
    @billa337 3 роки тому +1

    My smoking time is not an every day occurrence so its special for me,sitting on the porch with a cold beer or other adult beverage and my go to is a churchill.

  • @phantomreptiles1237
    @phantomreptiles1237 3 роки тому

    I've been smoking cigars off and on since I was 14 now 31 and I got out for the past couple years and because of your channel you helped me to relearn everything of the cigar world and even swayed me to get some filthy vikings which is now 1 of my top 10 favorite sticks

  • @dstdrummer
    @dstdrummer Рік тому

    For about the last 25+ years, I’ve been a fan of between 5-6”, and 50-60 rg.
    But recently, I had a hankering for a nice, FAT cigar.
    The owner of the local cigar shop I go to hooked me up with one of his personal blends in a 6.5x70.
    Not only is it a fantastic blend, but it’s a GREAT smoke.
    I’m hooked.

  • @howardseidler9528
    @howardseidler9528 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for a great video Tim. I've just recently decided that Corona or Robusto are my favorites. I never really have time for anything larger and feel like I get the most enjoyment of a stick that lasts about an hour or less. Love your videos Tim. I'm a huge fan!

  • @patrickkiernan1061
    @patrickkiernan1061 3 роки тому +1

    Corona, Robusto, lancero, Churchill are my favorites

  • @grassyknowles63
    @grassyknowles63 3 роки тому +1

    Kinda suites the review I left on the Camacho barrel ages stick, last night!

  • @devildog3125
    @devildog3125 3 місяці тому

    The Robusto has been my go to Cigars 98% of the time because of the time I have for relaxing smoke so I don’t want to waste/cut short a good smoke

  • @johnweiss2373
    @johnweiss2373 Рік тому

    Another great video. I like Robusto and Toros thus far. Just getting into the hobby and find them the enjoyable to smoke.

  • @KnucklesUp
    @KnucklesUp 3 роки тому

    Toro's the best size for me, perfect!

  • @bluelightcigars7032
    @bluelightcigars7032 2 роки тому

    I’m in the UK my go to is a Toro. It used to be Robusto but I find when I go to have a smoke that I prefer that little bit longer of a smoking time.

  • @sager121483
    @sager121483 2 роки тому

    I have always been partial to Toros. They smoke about the amount of time i like to sit and relax at night

  • @gorefreak1970rb
    @gorefreak1970rb 3 роки тому +1

    Robusto and Toro are my go to's

  • @franciszawalich6821
    @franciszawalich6821 3 роки тому

    Robusto is the size for me, mostly because it’s the only size I’ve smoked so far. I have a coupe church hills resting, NUB is also one of my favorites.
    Thanks Tim for all you do!!

  • @paul_romero_
    @paul_romero_ 8 місяців тому

    I love a good ol "Double Toro" 6x60

  • @SuperTromboneking
    @SuperTromboneking 2 роки тому +1

    I like the Churchill or Toro sizes since I only smoke once a week, makes the experience last longer (about 1-1.5 hours).

  • @patrickwlkns56
    @patrickwlkns56 3 роки тому +2

    My go to is the Drew Estate Java Mint or latte, I also really enjoy a large Camacho Connecticut ( the orange wrapped one). Although I only smoke on special occasions. So I haven't smoked one in a while.

  • @jonmelquist2825
    @jonmelquist2825 7 місяців тому

    Robusto is my fave. Short enuff that u don't have to be there all day, but long enuff to get a good experience. The ring Guage is usually perfect too.

  • @christopherkosman3926
    @christopherkosman3926 3 роки тому +7

    Depends on the time I have to enjoy a good stick. If I'm pressed for time, the corona pequena is perfect. If I had to pick a "go to" size, I'd have to go with a robusto.

  • @lorenwegele7517
    @lorenwegele7517 3 роки тому

    I like everything between 5 x 50 and 6 x 6. Being forcefully retired, if I don't have time, I wait until time and temperature allow! 👍👍👍Tim!

  • @sq5ebm
    @sq5ebm Рік тому

    Another great content, sir. After some 15 years of smoking i find that size that suit me best are, depending on how much time i have and listed from my fav to least smoked:
    1. Gordo
    2. Toro/Churchill
    3. Robusto
    aaaand waay down a corona or something smaller for a quick 30min smoke. As a mainly weekend smoker i find Gordos to give me the right amount for "me time" and best taste experience.

  • @dreadpirateforex
    @dreadpirateforex 3 роки тому +1

    anything 5 to 6 inches is my go to, anything bigger im over it by the last 3rd. i have found myself loving 4inch Nubs here lately.

  • @j0shll0yd
    @j0shll0yd 3 роки тому +1

    Started out with Robusto because, well, it’s popular and I didn’t know any better. But it always ended sooner than I’d like. So my new favorite is the Toro.

  • @bigal7373
    @bigal7373 3 роки тому +3

    ​@Cigars Daily It depends on what I am doing. How long I have and what I am doing. Robusto is my everyday size. Poker and scotch night I like a Gordo or Churchill.

  • @landshark6659
    @landshark6659 3 роки тому

    ok ill take whatever advicei can get,, im 54 and smoked 1-2 packs cigs for 30+ years now im doing/done the switch to cigars as im just tired of cigs,,,, so im very new to somking cigars i find that 5-6 inch around 50 +/- is best 60 is ok but not my 1st pick i find that the light brown in color is better then dark like a Cameroon (i dont know if that mean/says anything) lol,, i received yalls beginner sampler #2 a few days ago and really enjoyed yalls choice picks, lastnight i ordered the 12 stick Oliva sampler with ashtray for my 2nd order glad i did because its gone now lol.... thanks im glade i found your UA-cam channel and web channel see you at tomorrow's show

  • @BassF1sh1nCat
    @BassF1sh1nCat 2 роки тому

    Robustos for me because I have a dynamic lifestyle. Toro when I can take the time, and Churchill when I'm watching the game or at a campfire.

  • @DixieWhiskey
    @DixieWhiskey 3 роки тому +1

    My very first premium cigar was an Oliva Serie V Torpedo.

  • @donaldgary3886
    @donaldgary3886 3 роки тому +1

    I like the toro with a straight cut, because of the flavor it's present

  • @LeonScheppink
    @LeonScheppink 3 роки тому +3

    I most often go for a petit corona (anywhere around 40/42 RG and 5+ inches). I enjoy the smaller RG, flavour wise as well and it provides me with a good hour of smoking, which is enough for me on most times. I'll diversify but usually (a few exceptions) won't go bigger than 52/54 RG.

  • @kcrariden6922
    @kcrariden6922 2 роки тому

    6x60. I Like the way the larger ring gauges burn cooler, and I'm a giant; it also feels right in the hand.

  • @alvinthomas3031
    @alvinthomas3031 3 роки тому

    Toro for sure nice to relax at the lake in the evenings and just enjoy it around the camp fire

  • @steelball6543
    @steelball6543 2 роки тому

    Tim you Rock!
    Toro (originally called Corona Gorda in Cuba) and Corona sizes fit well for my time and taste.

  • @danhoy8356
    @danhoy8356 2 місяці тому

    Double robusto. Just a touch bigger than average. The lady’s notice and are not overwhelmed.

  • @thomaswebb248
    @thomaswebb248 2 роки тому

    Mostly Churchills but also love the old robolo 5x60. Never hear that vitola named anymore.

  • @Ramsaaaa
    @Ramsaaaa 6 місяців тому

    I love coronas, my favorite size by far. Smaller ring gauge, tighter draw without having to resort to a punch. Asylum 7x70 had me unhinging my jaw like a snake.

  • @mamaone3353
    @mamaone3353 3 роки тому +1

    Lonsdales coronas lanceros panatelas and robustos . Robustos are the biggest I go.

  • @Dave-rq1uk
    @Dave-rq1uk 2 роки тому

    Nine times out of 10 I’m grabbing a Churchill. Cigar time is my time to slow way down and relax!

  • @keeganbryor7071
    @keeganbryor7071 11 місяців тому

    There's nothing like being yelled at by Tim in the morning about cigars 😂

  • @GingerBeard1220
    @GingerBeard1220 3 місяці тому

    When I first started smoking cigars the Toro was my go to size. As I've grown with my cigar smoking, I lean more towards the Lancero or Corona these days

  • @marvinwilks5893
    @marvinwilks5893 2 роки тому

    I didn't know I was smoking MachineMade cigar for some thirty-odd years. While watching one of your video 3 years ago. Was when I discovered it. Switched over to handrolled. I'm a product of your video under $10 MSRP. I'm catching great deals on the internet. I believe in watching tons of cigar videos everyday.. keep up the good work. (My favorite size 6x44)

  • @andrewrichardson7814
    @andrewrichardson7814 3 роки тому +3

    I would have to go for a Churchill, as it will give me more time to myself.

  • @greenJLmachine
    @greenJLmachine 3 роки тому

    I am a big fan of the Robusto size. Long enough smoke, but not too long. Can finish early enough when I have other things to do and can last long enough to enjoy even when that's all I've got going on!

  • @markknister6272
    @markknister6272 2 роки тому

    I first started smoking cigars in 2015 at age 68. I bought Churchills because:”Why pay for a shorter cigars?” As I smoked, I learned that the taste came at “toro” or “robust” length. My go to now at 73 is robusto or toro. As you said, Tim, size matters and ring gauge affect my choices. 😳 Crazy….. good.🎉🥃

  • @troyvlahos7991
    @troyvlahos7991 Рік тому

    I'm a Robusto mainly (5x50) because I feel I can get all the flavors out of it without having to smoke for 90+ minutes. But I also smoke a lot of Toro size too. Again maximize flavor without to much time.

  • @jockeyjack3367
    @jockeyjack3367 Рік тому

    Robusto is my go to. Mainly because of the 5 inch. It just feels good in the hand and the time to smoke and a 50 is perfect for me not to small and not to big

  • @Thereal_mccoy
    @Thereal_mccoy 3 роки тому

    The Robusto size is my go to cigar size. That’s due to what you covered, the convenience of the smoking time.

  • @bradevans51
    @bradevans51 3 роки тому

    Love the toro when it is warm enough as I smoke outside. Colder weather robusto is the ticket

  • @buddykootz9677
    @buddykootz9677 2 роки тому +2

    My favorite size is the classic corona (42 RG x 5.5" to 6"). Gives me generally about an hour smoke time which is what I normally have to enjoy one. Second is a smaller petit corona (42 RG x

  • @BrutusMaximusAurelius
    @BrutusMaximusAurelius 2 роки тому

    For me it’s the Corona or Robusto and when I fancy a bigger cigar, I love a Churchill.

  • @ouropiniondoesntmatter175
    @ouropiniondoesntmatter175 Рік тому

    I noticed this before learning from others that “size matters” lol I learned that I prefer box pressed toros. I feel like there’s more wrapper used to press those sticks into their shape, and as the flavor is mostly in the wrapper, I think that’s the reason box pressed cigars tend to taste better to me. I can smoke the same stick but different sizes and it the both taste almost totally different.

  • @chasevids14
    @chasevids14 2 роки тому

    I’ve always been a Churchill guy. The bigger sizes are usually a dollar or two more than the smaller ones and I think you get more bang for the buck.

  • @cylayton7686
    @cylayton7686 3 роки тому

    I usually smoke a robusto or a toro... Those are my preferred sizes, and I don't dwell on the minor differences in ring gauge or slightly longer sizes. I just enjoy my favorites and trying new brands and blends on occasion. Great topic for discussion by the way!

  • @captaintenneall.43
    @captaintenneall.43 3 роки тому

    Robusto for sure is my favorite.

  • @zachthompson7849
    @zachthompson7849 Рік тому

    Love the 6x60 perfect size for me

  • @michaelrogers7664
    @michaelrogers7664 3 роки тому +1

    For me it's kind of simple, when I am able to smoke it's usually with friends and I'm not low on time. But I don't get to do it often maybe every other weekend. So bigger the better. If I only get one smoke, I'd like it to be a long one, where I can more flavor and more puffs for my time.
    Typically 6x60 is where I end up landing

  • @aljustal7577
    @aljustal7577 3 роки тому +1

    For me, 45-55 ring gauge and no longer than 5 inches are perfect. Traditional robusto size drops right in the middle of that range 👍 I'm in the UK FWIW 🇬🇧

  • @crazyjuicyify
    @crazyjuicyify 3 роки тому +2

    For sure for me its the robusto 5x50 its my go to size

  • @Toxictaff
    @Toxictaff 2 роки тому

    How can you say no to a Toro or Piramide on a lovely summer Friday evening….perfect!

  • @dragon201169
    @dragon201169 3 роки тому +1

    I like 60's and 70"s lol. But I'm a truck driver. I have nothing but time 😆

  • @michaelholston6340
    @michaelholston6340 Рік тому

    Thank you for your insight

  • @danielbeights6587
    @danielbeights6587 2 роки тому

    I tend to gravitate towards coronas. I usually also like maduros but I tried a Cain Daytona after seeing your review. Ordered one from you and it was amazing! Keep up the good work!

  • @theblishknovk
    @theblishknovk 3 роки тому +1

    Churchills and toros in summer and petit corona and gordito in the winter. Altho majority of my collection is robusto because i buy alot of samplers.

  • @jordonhodges8493
    @jordonhodges8493 Рік тому

    I LOVE huge cigars 😂 the Lunatic is my favorite of them so far

  • @disdurbed100
    @disdurbed100 8 місяців тому

    Arturo fuente hemingway work of art is my fav. It’s like a 45 or 50 ring and 4.5 length. It’s ideal if I wanna sit outside working and smokin cuz I can finish it fairly quick and have another or go back in. Otherwise I’m a big fan of the fatter longer cigars anything in the 6-7 in x 50-60 ring gauge sizes.

  • @dodgecity6083
    @dodgecity6083 3 роки тому

    The Toro is the goldilocks size for me. The macanudo inspirado black is my go to cigar. It's a rich smooth tobacco flavor with a roasted peanut aftertaste. Just awesome. On special occasions, I set aside the extra time for a churchill sized Gurkha.

  • @Viking_Kong
    @Viking_Kong 2 роки тому +1

    My first cigar was a Brick House Double Connecticut Toro. Since then, I typically like to smoke the Robusto size and if time allows, I'll go for a Toro. I have yet to try anything smaller or larger than those sizes. I may try a Churchill at some point.

  • @relevantinformation6655
    @relevantinformation6655 2 роки тому

    You’re a blast to watch - and I always come away with valuable info ! 👍