I had to sign up myself as I took on a 3rd year apprentice. Load of hassle though. I asked once he’s out his time could I de-register as I would never take on an apprentice again. They said once your on it you can’t come off it which I find very unfair. And also if you don’t submit your return on time they estimate an amount that your due to them based on your turnover. That happened to me some years ago and had to pay 3k.
@@graham1745 yeah your right but with me all those years ago I never had apprentices, never paid subbies but they still estimated a figure although I was way below that threshold.
I’ve got 3 apprentices, it’s a disgrace when I’m teaching the next gen and they’re getting a fair wage to, most people aren’t signed to it mate, same as VAT and tax there’s a load of them fuckers
The building trade needs a lot of changes to the way they charge us vat tax etc.the levy is a joke .Good on you for teaching the young lads I think that's brilliant of you Thomas 👍
Nothing to do with the video but wanted to pick your brains. Building small brick retainer and using a cheshire brick. Have a brickie doing it for me and he says does not need a DPC or engineering brick. Im worried about spalling, would this happen quickly or is it 20 years down the line. Also worried about moss/mould/general green from rising damp. Am I being over cautious? Walls are 40cm and 60cm tall, capped with slate, and the inner is block to keep soil off bricks. Many thanks
Defo no dpc needed as for the eng brick can use it below ground but as long as you use a f2 rated brick on external walls in my opinion that what I do . You can also tank the back of the wall. You would be advised to add clean chippings in a membrane behind the wall and weep holes to send water through the wall .look at our videos on a project called the flooded masterpiece shows all on there . That's my personal opinions but each to there own .Good luck 👍
Notify CITB of Your Status: If you believe your company should not be included in the levy scheme, contact CITB to notify them of your status. You can do this through their online portal or by calling their customer service. Submit Supporting Documentation: Be prepared to provide evidence supporting your exemption claim. This could include payroll records, financial statements, and any other relevant documentation that proves your wage bill is below the threshold. Appeal the Levy Assessment (if necessary): If you receive a levy assessment that you believe is incorrect, you have the right to appeal. Write a formal letter to CITB explaining why you believe the assessment is wrong and provide supporting evidence. Follow Up with CITB: After submitting your notification and documentation, follow up with CITB to ensure your request is being processed. Keep records of all your communications.
That's a very good idea that is .I explain this every year by phone and each year they won't let me leave the scheme saying it's a legal requirement that everyone in the industry should be a member of including me weather I'm above or below the threshold. If it's government run they have all our tax records utr numbers etc when you register your business or self employment so why is it only a few are targeted for the levy. I don't pay a levy but I feel sorry for the guys that get bullied into paying it while others don't. I also feel for the apprentice because I feel there isn't enough and I wonder why 🙂 also there training isn't good enough .the entire levy set up is letting the industry down it's hard enough anyway .appreciate the great post 👍
@bigeein They do offer grants for apprenticeships but the industry is short of them .So there could be some good from it and personally there has been .Should be same rules for all though and it's not 👍
It's a con by the British government and it's why nobody takes on an apprentice. People take on an apprentice to give a lad a chance and give something back on you get punishment by a totally unreasonable and unfair government run what ever is .its robbery steve
And loose all your hard work of years and years of making your good name to chuck it in just to get off there scheme .I get what you say but that's unfair aswell stephen 👍
You must have taken on an apprentice to be registered, You can't opt out, Your apprentice worked for you, at an extremely low rate of pay, that mostly came from the CITB. It's to stop companies taking advantage of apprentices being used for free labour.
@sally6457 I get that Sally and to honest I was happy to bring Apprentices through I enjoyed it.it wasn't a lot of money at the time but overall I has happy to do it. I've no issue with any of that . The issue is now I'm signed up Im stuck in it which I was never told .Also people who earn over a certain amount have to pay a levy on earnings which can be a lot of money . The ones who arnt signed up don't pay a thing.Eveyone is supposed be signed by law . It's a system that quite obviously isn't a fair one some pay some don't all should be signed up and most contractors I come across arnt and that's totally bias Sally. This is why people don't want apprentices any more it's way to much hassle for little reward. That's the way I see it . Appreciate your post Sally 👍
Reading and watching this, it appears to me you guys have had rubbish service from CITB south of border. The advisor I’ve dealt with for 10+ years here in Scotland is first class. I have one apprentice, one time-served joiner, and me. I send my return in every year, they calculate what I’m owe them, and for 10 years it’s been £0. I’ve had grants and funding for training, but I don’t pay the levy because I’m a micro company. Phone an advisor in Scotland for sound advice, and stop yakking on here, giving out duff advice and comment.
And I've had the same years back .I also haven't payed a levy Graham. The issue is it isn't fair and it actually stops companies taking on Apprentices because the bigger companies have to pay a levy well some do some don't that's my point. If it was run more effectively then we could be having more Apprentices across the board which benefits young people and the businesses they serve. It's an old unfair system that needs a big revamp to move forward to gain more Apprentices a better quality of training and the levy it's self isn't working. I only made the video because I care about the industry and young people trying to make a go of it . If you think it works and your happy with it great I'm glad your happy no issue good luck to you and the young lads you bring through 👍
I understand what you’re saying, mate, and apologies if I came across as confrontational. I think the problem is that CITB operates slightly differently up here, they have close ties with Feds, mine included, we had an indentured apprenticeship scheme for decades, etc, etc. I think the staff up here are also well established and knowledgeable, whereas there’s been all sorts of change over the years down south. If you know of someone who says they’re not registered, you can ask CITB to check. It’s not grassing anybody up, you wouldn’t stand back and watch someone dodge paying their taxes, this is no different. I remember listening to a govt minister before the last review who said, if CITB didn’t exist, something would have to take its place. The best we can all do is make sure we get as much back as we can, whether through grants, advice, whatever…. Stay safe, mate. 👍
@graham1745 Absolutely fine and no issue Graham you care as well I can see that .Scotland sounds a lot better in the way it's works me down south need that leason. Take care pal good luck to your young lads aswell and gutted about Scotland last night in the football 👍
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping You had to mention the football!?😆😆😆😆😆. Looking forward to seeing the English boys later….i just wish Jack Grealish had a Scottish grannie! 👍👍
They no who firms are because you register your business so in doing that all of us should be signed up or all of us not signed .to target the few who take on Apprentices is totally disrespectful and totally unfair. They wonder why nobody takes on Apprentices anymore British government out of touch and robbing a select few who are the good guys BS Scott makes me angry mate 👍👌
Hi Justine They are all private firms leaching of us pal ! On behalf of the government , we do everything legal pay taxes , training , health and safety , liability insurance , employers insurance , pensions all legal requirements of Ltd construction firms and we get undercut by the ones who are not legal 👍👍👍 and they wonder why we charge what we do pal ! ❤❤ they are trying to get their money mate before we even do a job , and no matter who we vote for it is not going to change !!! Keep safe mate and all we can do is soldier omen ahhh 😂😂
They are charging some people thousands for a levy while others same size company pay nothing. All this effects the apprentice before they even start. It's like this the citb pay a company grants over 3 years don't no what it is these days say 5k then if your a big enough company you could be paying back that each year .then your apprentice gets taught a watered down version of the trade in college so hen he's finshed he isn't competent to do the trade not his or her fault .it's just pathetic John and your right no matter who you vote for stays the same it's BS 👍
Just don’t take apprentices on and put young lads through the Justin qualification… the JITB qualification you could say. That’s what I do for that exact reason mate it’s just not worth doing as sad is it is. You can still train some one, get them up to speed quicker than college will! the apprentices don’t even know what a cavity tray is when they leave😅 Then put them on a on site course for there qualification. But even then in over 20years I’ve never had to prove I’m qualified, which is sad really. Any one can say oh I’m a Bricky or a roofer and just blag it🤷🏻♂️ it’s mental
Craig all you say there is spot on mate agree 💯 with you mate that's what I'm doing with Frazer my son 👍 a shame it's a true though mate a great country gone to the dogs hardly any Apprentices now a real shame craig we had the opportunity they no longer have really and it angers me mate 👍
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping it is mate, it’s all the big corporate company’s who can do it. Likes of us small company’s and sole traders stand no chance of putting apprentices threw, to much holidays paid etc for little return and time wasted showing them how to do somthing…. Then they leave🤪😂
Exactly Danny not fair on anyone mate in the industry. British government should be ashamed of themselves it's a con danny no wonder nobody wants an apprentice anymore it's BS mate 👍
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping yep mate load of bull shit stuff like this makes my blood boil we losing this country mate all that will happen in the future is all the born and bread here in the UK will leave and live elsewhere all ready started loads of my friends gone to Australia New Zealand Spain etc
I don't no I don't need to pay it just feel for the ones that do while others in the same position don't have to it just isn't right .there are less and less apprenticeships and I wonder why that I feel very strongly about the y deserve a chance and they ain't getting it 👍
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Wayne kerrds 😢😢 no wonder the UK has a skills shortage and cheap labour
Spot on
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping makes me 🤬🤬🤬
I had to sign up myself as I took on a 3rd year apprentice. Load of hassle though. I asked once he’s out his time could I de-register as I would never take on an apprentice again. They said once your on it you can’t come off it which I find very unfair. And also if you don’t submit your return on time they estimate an amount that your due to them based on your turnover. That happened to me some years ago and had to pay 3k.
Makes my blood boil that we get treated this way it's not a fair scheme not transparent at all a government con 👍
It’s not estimated on turnover, its wages and/or payments to CIS sub-contractors, and if you were under the threshold, you wouldn’t pay anything.
@@graham1745 yeah your right but with me all those years ago I never had apprentices, never paid subbies but they still estimated a figure although I was way below that threshold.
I’ve got 3 apprentices, it’s a disgrace when I’m teaching the next gen and they’re getting a fair wage to, most people aren’t signed to it mate, same as VAT and tax there’s a load of them fuckers
The building trade needs a lot of changes to the way they charge us vat tax etc.the levy is a joke .Good on you for teaching the young lads I think that's brilliant of you Thomas 👍
@@thomasthetankengine2257 tbe UK government aint worth a plumber's O ring👊🏾👌
Nothing to do with the video but wanted to pick your brains. Building small brick retainer and using a cheshire brick. Have a brickie doing it for me and he says does not need a DPC or engineering brick. Im worried about spalling, would this happen quickly or is it 20 years down the line. Also worried about moss/mould/general green from rising damp. Am I being over cautious? Walls are 40cm and 60cm tall, capped with slate, and the inner is block to keep soil off bricks. Many thanks
Defo no dpc needed as for the eng brick can use it below ground but as long as you use a f2 rated brick on external walls in my opinion that what I do .
You can also tank the back of the wall.
You would be advised to add clean chippings in a membrane behind the wall and weep holes to send water through the wall .look at our videos on a project called the flooded masterpiece shows all on there .
That's my personal opinions but each to there own .Good luck 👍
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping That's great, thanks for replying.
Notify CITB of Your Status:
If you believe your company should not be included in the levy scheme, contact CITB to notify them of your status. You can do this through their online portal or by calling their customer service.
Submit Supporting Documentation:
Be prepared to provide evidence supporting your exemption claim. This could include payroll records, financial statements, and any other relevant documentation that proves your wage bill is below the threshold.
Appeal the Levy Assessment (if necessary):
If you receive a levy assessment that you believe is incorrect, you have the right to appeal. Write a formal letter to CITB explaining why you believe the assessment is wrong and provide supporting evidence.
Follow Up with CITB:
After submitting your notification and documentation, follow up with CITB to ensure your request is being processed. Keep records of all your communications.
That's a very good idea that is .I explain this every year by phone and each year they won't let me leave the scheme saying it's a legal requirement that everyone in the industry should be a member of including me weather I'm above or below the threshold.
If it's government run they have all our tax records utr numbers etc when you register your business or self employment so why is it only a few are targeted for the levy.
I don't pay a levy but I feel sorry for the guys that get bullied into paying it while others don't. I also feel for the apprentice because I feel there isn't enough and I wonder why 🙂 also there training isn't good enough .the entire levy set up is letting the industry down it's hard enough anyway .appreciate the great post 👍
Do not have to comply with anything but the law of harm and loss.
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Harm and loss
Sounds like a shake down. What do you get for the Levy
@bigeein
They do offer grants for apprenticeships but the industry is short of them .So there could be some good from it and personally there has been .Should be same rules for all though and it's not 👍
Shocking that mate 😒🧱👍🏼
It's a con by the British government and it's why nobody takes on an apprentice. People take on an apprentice to give a lad a chance and give something back on you get punishment by a totally unreasonable and unfair government run what ever is .its robbery steve
Simple shut your bussiness and reopen in a different name. Job done
And loose all your hard work of years and years of making your good name to chuck it in just to get off there scheme .I get what you say but that's unfair aswell stephen 👍
Doesn’t work.
You must have taken on an apprentice to be registered,
You can't opt out,
Your apprentice worked for you, at an extremely low rate of pay, that mostly came from the CITB.
It's to stop companies taking advantage of apprentices being used for free labour.
@sally6457
I get that Sally and to honest I was happy to bring Apprentices through I enjoyed it.it wasn't a lot of money at the time but overall I has happy to do it.
I've no issue with any of that .
The issue is now I'm signed up Im stuck in it which I was never told .Also people who earn over a certain amount have to pay a levy on earnings which can be a lot of money .
The ones who arnt signed up don't pay a thing.Eveyone is supposed be signed by law .
It's a system that quite obviously isn't a fair one some pay some don't all should be signed up and most contractors I come across arnt and that's totally bias Sally.
This is why people don't want apprentices any more it's way to much hassle for little reward.
That's the way I see it .
Appreciate your post Sally 👍
It’s over. £250 per week now, that is not a low wage
@thomasthetankengine2257
I stated in 1989 on.£29.50 a week so that's definitely better these days isn't it
As if making a living wasn't hard enough youre saddled with this crap. 😨
Yep 👍
Reading and watching this, it appears to me you guys have had rubbish service from CITB south of border. The advisor I’ve dealt with for 10+ years here in Scotland is first class. I have one apprentice, one time-served joiner, and me. I send my return in every year, they calculate what I’m owe them, and for 10 years it’s been £0. I’ve had grants and funding for training, but I don’t pay the levy because I’m a micro company.
Phone an advisor in Scotland for sound advice, and stop yakking on here, giving out duff advice and comment.
And I've had the same years back .I also haven't payed a levy Graham. The issue is it isn't fair and it actually stops companies taking on Apprentices because the bigger companies have to pay a levy well some do some don't that's my point. If it was run more effectively then we could be having more Apprentices across the board which benefits young people and the businesses they serve.
It's an old unfair system that needs a big revamp to move forward to gain more Apprentices a better quality of training and the levy it's self isn't working.
I only made the video because I care about the industry and young people trying to make a go of it .
If you think it works and your happy with it great I'm glad your happy no issue good luck to you and the young lads you bring through 👍
I understand what you’re saying, mate, and apologies if I came across as confrontational. I think the problem is that CITB operates slightly differently up here, they have close ties with Feds, mine included, we had an indentured apprenticeship scheme for decades, etc, etc. I think the staff up here are also well established and knowledgeable, whereas there’s been all sorts of change over the years down south. If you know of someone who says they’re not registered, you can ask CITB to check. It’s not grassing anybody up, you wouldn’t stand back and watch someone dodge paying their taxes, this is no different.
I remember listening to a govt minister before the last review who said, if CITB didn’t exist, something would have to take its place. The best we can all do is make sure we get as much back as we can, whether through grants, advice, whatever….
Stay safe, mate. 👍
@graham1745
Absolutely fine and no issue Graham you care as well I can see that .Scotland sounds a lot better in the way it's works me down south need that leason. Take care pal good luck to your young lads aswell and gutted about Scotland last night in the football 👍
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping You had to mention the football!?😆😆😆😆😆. Looking forward to seeing the English boys later….i just wish Jack Grealish had a Scottish grannie! 👍👍
Yeh fair play Justin it’s hard enough as it is and a proper loads of 🥎 🥎 as you say 👍🏴
They no who firms are because you register your business so in doing that all of us should be signed up or all of us not signed .to target the few who take on Apprentices is totally disrespectful and totally unfair. They wonder why nobody takes on Apprentices anymore British government out of touch and robbing a select few who are the good guys BS Scott makes me angry mate 👍👌
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping I’m glad I never took one on even after having the opportunity thrown around me on several occasions 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping
Agree scott 👍
These levies are no more then local government sticking their grubby little paw’s into hard working small businesses 🤬
Think if the rules applied to everyone and apprenticeships were as good as they used to be it could be exceptable 👍
Central government, it's nothing to do with local government
Hi Justine
They are all private firms leaching of us pal ! On behalf of the government , we do everything legal pay taxes , training , health and safety , liability insurance , employers insurance , pensions all legal requirements of Ltd construction firms and we get undercut by the ones who are not legal 👍👍👍 and they wonder why we charge what we do pal ! ❤❤ they are trying to get their money mate before we even do a job , and no matter who we vote for it is not going to change !!! Keep safe mate and all we can do is soldier omen ahhh 😂😂
They are charging some people thousands for a levy while others same size company pay nothing. All this effects the apprentice before they even start.
It's like this the citb pay a company grants over 3 years don't no what it is these days say 5k then if your a big enough company you could be paying back that each year .then your apprentice gets taught a watered down version of the trade in college so hen he's finshed he isn't competent to do the trade not his or her fault .it's just pathetic John and your right no matter who you vote for stays the same it's BS 👍
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Just don’t take apprentices on and put young lads through the Justin qualification… the JITB qualification you could say.
That’s what I do for that exact reason mate it’s just not worth doing as sad is it is.
You can still train some one, get them up to speed quicker than college will! the apprentices don’t even know what a cavity tray is when they leave😅
Then put them on a on site course for there qualification.
But even then in over 20years I’ve never had to prove I’m qualified, which is sad really. Any one can say oh I’m a Bricky or a roofer and just blag it🤷🏻♂️ it’s mental
Craig all you say there is spot on mate agree 💯 with you mate that's what I'm doing with Frazer my son 👍 a shame it's a true though mate a great country gone to the dogs hardly any Apprentices now a real shame craig we had the opportunity they no longer have really and it angers me mate 👍
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping it is mate, it’s all the big corporate company’s who can do it. Likes of us small company’s and sole traders stand no chance of putting apprentices threw, to much holidays paid etc for little return and time wasted showing them how to do somthing…. Then they leave🤪😂
@craigstyrin3453
Spot on with that again craig 👍
Day light robbery mate take take
Totally unfair robbery wayne 👍
Loads tell me its a pain in the ass loads want out but dont know how so the government are going to wonder why people not taking on apprentices
Exactly Danny not fair on anyone mate in the industry. British government should be ashamed of themselves it's a con danny no wonder nobody wants an apprentice anymore it's BS mate 👍
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping yep mate load of bull shit stuff like this makes my blood boil we losing this country mate all that will happen in the future is all the born and bread here in the UK will leave and live elsewhere all ready started loads of my friends gone to Australia New Zealand Spain etc
Yeah, too right! Be better once Farage is in charge….yeah, we want our country back…..
@@graham1745 👍that's the one
How much do you have to pay?
I don't no I don't need to pay it just feel for the ones that do while others in the same position don't have to it just isn't right .there are less and less apprenticeships and I wonder why that I feel very strongly about the y deserve a chance and they ain't getting it 👍