Sharking, Gambling, and Drugs: The Dark Side of Pool

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  • @WrathOfRagnarok
    @WrathOfRagnarok 2 роки тому +2802

    I feel like Joe’s been waiting his whole podcasting career for someone to go deep with about Pool

    • @youtubescholar
      @youtubescholar 2 роки тому +84

      I’m surprised it’s taken him this long. Wasn’t he super into pool for a while?

    • @hittanomiss9702
      @hittanomiss9702 2 роки тому +26

      @@youtubescholar why ask if you already know

    • @youtubescholar
      @youtubescholar 2 роки тому +34

      @@hittanomiss9702 I guess I misphrased it. I meant to ask how into pool he was.

    • @michaeldixon2942
      @michaeldixon2942 2 роки тому +35

      He needs to interview earl the pearl, that would be wild

    • @JoniAntonio
      @JoniAntonio 2 роки тому +2

      Nah that was his talk about mushrooms 🍄

  • @davinanderson2003
    @davinanderson2003 2 роки тому +61

    I owned a pool hall and was a professional pool player in NJ and spent over 12 years playing pool and I get so nostalgic reminiscing about the crazy stories about the good ole days in the pool hall. It’s a totally different world that most people would never believe existed.

    • @ShinzoX90
      @ShinzoX90 2 роки тому +1

      My name

    • @Darkkillaz090507
      @Darkkillaz090507 11 місяців тому +1

      Will love to hear your stories one day with a beer and playing some games

  • @CrippledMerc
    @CrippledMerc 2 роки тому +110

    I miss those Friday and Saturday night when my dad and I would hang out in the garage, drinking, smoking cigars, and playing pool all evening and into the morning hours. We had some fun times and I miss him a lot. I’ve barely even played since he passed.

    • @funkydankspliff
      @funkydankspliff 2 роки тому +9

      The simplest of pleasures are always the ones you miss the most.. RIP to your dad

    • @CrippledMerc
      @CrippledMerc 2 роки тому +7

      @@funkydankspliff That’s the truth. Thank you

    • @knowbloc
      @knowbloc 2 роки тому +10

      the table will call u again.. and u will be able to connect again.. stay strong friend find your way it’s just a great game I play alone often and love that time

    • @ShinzoX90
      @ShinzoX90 2 роки тому +1

      Dear diary

    • @Jay-dm4id
      @Jay-dm4id Рік тому +1

      Lucky you have such good memories of your dad, any time your minds towards those memories,you will get a nice warm feeling which is difficult to explain!

  • @spen4christ
    @spen4christ 2 роки тому +33

    Man, I almost forgot Joe was this into pool. So cool to hear him talking this game. Would love to hear more!!

  • @clintmoses957
    @clintmoses957 2 роки тому +428

    After last night playing pool for hours and waking up to this was perfect. Joe needs more pool podcast!

    • @18aplateindoors
      @18aplateindoors 2 роки тому +9

      Hmmmmm was ur phone listening to ur game lol

    • @pokerlife123
      @pokerlife123 2 роки тому +1

      You got the 7

    • @DannySullivanMusic
      @DannySullivanMusic 2 роки тому +1

      totally dude. totally, totally true dude

    • @roadplayerproductions
      @roadplayerproductions 2 роки тому +1

      We do a live stream and talk shop every week for about 4 hours. Would love to see you! Next match is 1/14

    • @CantTellYou
      @CantTellYou 2 роки тому +2

      I’m surprised he hasn’t had more episodes dedicated to it, he’s been talking about it since the very beginning

  • @TranscriptionistinDC
    @TranscriptionistinDC 2 роки тому +29

    Thank you, thank you, thank you. How refreshing to listen to a professional interview by someone who knows what time of day it is in the pool world. I used to provide support to the M1-Global and Affliction MMA fights and was already a huge fan of the other Fedor from Russia, but my passion is pool. Your expertise and knowledge of the game, number one, was intellectually stimulating to a pool aficionado like me, but it was your quick wit, storytelling, and ability to get young Fedor to open up that was amazing. I know you're quite a busy celebrity, but, man, if you could ever find some time to commentate pool matches and/or contribute your talent in any small way to pool as a sport, it just might be the saving grace and boost that pool needs at this time. I listened to this on Spotify, but now I'm going to listen again and watch the video on UA-cam. BTW, I'd also love to see you interview Ronnie O'Sullivan. That would be a hoot! What a great day for pool to listen to Joe Rogan interview Fedor Gorst. Brilliant!

    • @tomosa6880
      @tomosa6880 10 місяців тому

      Don't think many people give a sxxt dude. I don't 😂

  • @cody9353
    @cody9353 2 роки тому +14

    100's of hours of jre and the story joe told on his early pool playing days are just the best. I want to hear more.

  • @williamlavelle7786
    @williamlavelle7786 2 роки тому +18

    Joe's story about Harlem reminded me that one time a huge friend of mine took me to a pool hall on South State in Chicago about 1959. I was a skinny red head 6' 2" 19 yr. old geek. I heard one of the players tell my friend to get me out of there or I was going to be bent over a pool table. I was so dumb I didn't know what that meant but Jerry did and we left fast.

  • @user-ou4vv2ts2w
    @user-ou4vv2ts2w 2 роки тому +9

    Best JRE in a long time. Good seeing you fired up on a conversation. Great conversation and very informative

  • @richardb6510
    @richardb6510 2 роки тому +67

    That was my life from 1971 to 1977.
    I hustled coast to coast and became a road partner for St Louie, Louie Roberts. I also was the guy who hypnotized Louie.
    I started the very First Sneaky Pete using a bar cue from my mother's bar in Indianapolis.
    It was refinished by Jim McDermott in 1971, three years before he started McDermott Cues in 1974.
    Four times I had guns pulled on me pointed at my face .
    Once two Las Vegas cops pulled guns on me because I was dating Frank "Lefty" Rosenthal's girl friend..
    Her name was Angela Larney and was an Irish Dancer at the Stardust..
    They told me I had to leave town by Sundown..
    It will never be the same as was in the past because everyone wants to play tournaments..
    In my day, the players and hustlers went to pool tournaments for the Gambling...
    I miss those days and many of my pool buddies that are now gone.
    I still own the very first Sneaky Pete pool cue, and sometimes play with it..
    Richard B. now living in Denver...

    • @simdog1502
      @simdog1502 2 роки тому +9

      i imagine this comment means a lot more for someone who knows pool but interesting nonetheless. do you search pool videos and comment things like this or did you just stumble upon this and happen to have a very relevant life story

    • @richardb6510
      @richardb6510 2 роки тому +12

      @@simdog1502
      When I traveled, I was a ghost.
      In pool the better you get the more you are penalized.
      Basically the better your game people stop playing you so you are forced to travel.
      The distances keep getting farther til you run out of real estate.
      So, the more people don't know about you the better..
      Hence, I was a ghost and tend to be the same even today...
      With you tube and big money tournaments that lifestyle died.
      Yes, I stumbled upon Joe and this interview.
      Best of luck to you and never stop hitting balls...

    • @richardb6510
      @richardb6510 2 роки тому +4

      Thank you for your likes.
      Very much appreciated..
      I miss the old days, but I still have my memories..

    • @benjackson9299
      @benjackson9299 2 роки тому +2

      Have you seen
      "Joe Rogan asks Elon Musk HARD Questions About Cobalt Mining For TESLA Batteries"

    • @fullaish5684
      @fullaish5684 2 роки тому

      Ish ..

  • @DerajDoh
    @DerajDoh 2 роки тому +132

    Hopefully this will surge a resurgence in billiards across America. If Joe took a more public interest in the sport, it would be great for pool. He's genuinely a good guy and he knows what he's talking about.

    • @roadplayerproductions
      @roadplayerproductions 2 роки тому +4

      Yes totally agree, we're trying to bring back pool to it's glory days. I'd love to see the sport be on ESPN again. I live stream long matches usually on a weekly basis, we're starting again 1/14 and love to see some pool players come out!

    • @jamesmayle3787
      @jamesmayle3787 2 роки тому +1

      There’s this set of circumstances you’re tied to. It’s in the foundation of this universe. Pay attention, there is no coincidence. God exists. The Bible is truth.
      We all see these clips in reality. Where we know we’re being talked to. By the universe. We explain it away for our own sanity. What we want, and the things we must do to obtain them, verses what we learn God wants. It’s hard to get those two on the same level. But the shock of knowing what we must give up causes so many to avoid digging deeper. There are reasons why. Poison exists on a spiritual level, sin taints our immortal souls. It isn’t that we’re bad. It’s that Satan attached a curse to actions we take, claiming us as him. Like a drowning man tying himself to your ankles.
      God offers the knife to free yourself. Grace is a free gift God wants to give us all. It removes that stain of sin on our souls by forgiving the mistakes we made in ignorance. It’s just that God has a nature he cannot control. As our loving father he cannot give to one without another. He has to give us our own free will, one and all if anyone. Sin is something that takes many forms, and we all fall short of the glory of God. Being perfect isn’t the point. It’s about forgiveness. God can’t blanket forgive sins just because he knows our life’s circumstances. That’s forgive the devil too, considering he was an angel and only sinned one. Again, God can’t do for one child without the other. We have far more sins by count. He’s responsible for all the evil on earth, but it is the humanity that carried out his will.
      God has made standers we all must reach spiritually in life. Soul growth and development that shows faith. Shows that we’ve taken the teachings of Jesus Christ to heart.
      It’s all about forgiveness.
      To be forgiven we must forgive.
      It all starts at the heart, at home, with our family. Those people that have loved us, sheltered, fed, etc. working though the grievances we all build up with our parents is a huge spiritual milestone. That’s really what sets everything into motion as an adult. Once that gear grins freely the next fall into place so smoothly.
      Jesus Christ is lord. It’s something you learn inside once you clear out that inner baggage. You bleed your heart clean though your eyes. You understand why you need to submit to Jesus Christ and ask for forgiveness.
      Everything you ever need is in three books of the Bible. Genesis explains the problem, why these circumstances are so important. Mathew explains what’s been done to fix the system. And just one more, one book of the Bible you chose yourself. I Suggest James. It has many interesting lessons condensed and straightforward.
      Please trust me. I know how it sounds. It really does all begin with the inner work of forgiveness. It teaches your soul so many important lessons.
      Jesus Christ is the way truth and life.
      😊 😊😊

    • @WeighedWilson
      @WeighedWilson 2 роки тому +6

      @@jamesmayle3787 sure buddy

    • @wcw7813
      @wcw7813 2 роки тому +1

      Look up
      “Joe Rogan asks Elon Musk HARD Questions about Cobalt Mining for TESLA Batteries!”
      thank me later 🙏

    • @OGRE_HATES_NERDS
      @OGRE_HATES_NERDS Рік тому

      how much more public can he make his inteerest in pool? hes been consistently talking about it for like 20 years

  • @jeffkastl1290
    @jeffkastl1290 2 роки тому +18

    We need more stories about your early pool life Joe! Please! Great stuff

  • @MMAjsf7
    @MMAjsf7 2 роки тому +26

    Joe is so pumped for this episode

  • @mikeyTversus
    @mikeyTversus 2 роки тому +589

    It still cracks me up when Rogan tells Jamie how to Google.

  • @waynereardon
    @waynereardon 2 роки тому +8

    20 years ago I would play for around 10-12 hours a days every day and was almost unbeatable. I started taking a little bit of speed and then became ridiculously good. I couldn't miss. It was like the pockets were a foot wide. I used to turn up at the pub I drank at around 7pm each night and put my dollar in the challenge table, and would then hold the table until the pub closed at 4am. I also worked at a pub, so would play during the quiet times during the day. I bought a beautiful table recently and am absolutely terrible after not playing for 15 years. I'm getting better, but will never get back to the form I was in when I was doing speed. We used to have big pool comps between all the pubs, but no-one does them anymore. There were 16 pubs in our district and each pub had at least 1 team. Our pub had four teams that played another pub team every week. I miss those days.

  • @anthonym5917
    @anthonym5917 2 роки тому +63

    Fedor is a machine. Great player. Love watching him

    • @youtubescholar
      @youtubescholar 2 роки тому +2

      Do you go to pool halls these days? Curious what they’re like

    • @anthonym5917
      @anthonym5917 2 роки тому +4

      @@youtubescholar same as they have always been. Pool players. Gambling. Beer, and music.

    • @youtubescholar
      @youtubescholar 2 роки тому +2

      @@anthonym5917 are the average player ages getting older or are there younger guys playing pool too?

    • @YungCountertop
      @YungCountertop 2 роки тому +1

      Isn’t his nickname “The Machine”

    • @anthonym5917
      @anthonym5917 2 роки тому +2

      @codysmith7646 if it is...thats a hell of a coincidence

  • @FaraZaminii
    @FaraZaminii 2 роки тому +11

    This video is way better that I thought it was gonna be. This guy is an interesting character.

  • @earlofthecarolinas6250
    @earlofthecarolinas6250 2 роки тому +6

    My father was a professional gambler who treated it as work and his career. His time in it spans 45+ years of experience, but he would be enthused to infinity by this video. Good one, Joe.

  • @navtektv
    @navtektv 2 роки тому +143

    If Joe did as many Pool Player podcasts as he does MMA ones, I would watch every single second of it.

    • @roadplayerproductions
      @roadplayerproductions 2 роки тому +1

      Join us on our weekly live stream matches! (Next one is 1/14)

    • @WeighedWilson
      @WeighedWilson 2 роки тому +1

      Pool isn't that interesting.

    • @navtektv
      @navtektv 2 роки тому +14

      @@WeighedWilson exactly what I say about MMA. Turns out different people like different things!

    • @WeighedWilson
      @WeighedWilson 2 роки тому

      @@navtektv how many people buy $80 pay per view pool matches?

    • @navtektv
      @navtektv 2 роки тому +3

      @@WeighedWilson Less people than there should be. But I'm biased because I like Pool more than I like MMA.

  • @Ojgville4l
    @Ojgville4l 2 роки тому +17

    Great interview, I'd love to see more pool players.

    • @newkidsongs6580
      @newkidsongs6580 2 роки тому +1

      Have you seen
      Elon Musk meets Post Malone
      😆 it’s hilarious!! 👽

  • @SecretAgentSuperDragon
    @SecretAgentSuperDragon 2 роки тому +212

    Also, if you could get on Danny D and have several hours with him to get some of his stories documented, the billiard community would be indebted. The old timers with all the great stories won't be around forever and it would be a terrible tragedy if a lot of that stuff was lost to the sands of time.
    Earl would be another great get. There's so many.

    • @Dysusfusion
      @Dysusfusion 2 роки тому +1

      Unfortunately Danny D hasn't been doing to well in recent years. Heard he's been in a wheelchair lately and I dont think I've heard him commentate since before the pandemic

    • @Zigarius1123
      @Zigarius1123 2 роки тому +1

      That's sad to hear I'm not familiar with him, but I am with the game. I think Joe and Earl would have a great freaking episode! Segal would be another killer episode. Only thing about Mike is he an talk so long he just breathes through his ears 😂

    • @SecretAgentSuperDragon
      @SecretAgentSuperDragon 2 роки тому

      @@Dysusfusion Indeed. He lives here in Buffalo, around the corner from me actually, and the last time I saw him he didn't look that great. It's been a couple years now, but I always admired him as a legend of the game from a time when the game was different.
      There's a great poster of Danny D, Larry Lisciotti, Mike Segal, and Jim Rempe called The Roadrunners. Search it out :)

    • @hatesitrick
      @hatesitrick 2 роки тому +5

      Earl was called by Rogan but he never called him back 😂 which is weird coz I’d imagine he would be up for it. Just gotta keep asking

    • @juanbukele189
      @juanbukele189 2 роки тому +1

      Hello Mr. James H!
      This is Juan Jose Solorzano!
      .

  • @jaketran
    @jaketran 2 роки тому +68

    All I can think about is the Drake and Josh episode where Josh hustles people at pool

    • @CookTheCrook15
      @CookTheCrook15 2 роки тому +4

      Josh would whoop Fedor any day of the week

    • @shittysolver7909
      @shittysolver7909 2 роки тому +2

      Nice to see you here Jake

    • @rossaroni24
      @rossaroni24 2 роки тому

      Drake’s mom, Robin, is a professional pool player.

    • @vicluevano1222
      @vicluevano1222 Рік тому

      Tournament maybe but for the money$$$$$$$$ i doubt it bud​@CookTheCrook15

  • @joeboyko8013
    @joeboyko8013 2 роки тому +90

    There was a bar I used to work at where we had a huge melee break out over a pool game that resulted in a stabbing. They weren't even playing in my bar. It spilled over from a bar that they were playing a pool game at down the street. Apparently, they were gambling and the guys who lost followed the guys they were playing against to my place. I wasn't working that night, but I watched the surveillance footage after the fact. It was pretty messed up. The club I work at now has billiards tables and two regulation pool tables. Guys gamble there for much higher stakes than I've ever seen in a dive bar, but there's no animosity among the players when it comes time to pay up.

    • @everyonesentitledtomyopini6723
      @everyonesentitledtomyopini6723 2 роки тому +8

      Wild , glad I never experienced that. btw - the only regulation pertaining to a pool table is that it has to be twice as long as it is wide.

    • @nicksharp8868
      @nicksharp8868 2 роки тому +5

      I haven’t played a lot of pool what’s the difference between a billiards table and regulation?

    • @joeboyko8013
      @joeboyko8013 2 роки тому +5

      @@nicksharp8868 I'm a relatively decent pool player, but I won't even pretend to understand the rules of billiards. All I know is that there are no pockets and three balls. To the best of my understanding, it's about making contact with the other two balls either before or after contact with a rail. But don't quote me on that.

    • @staceya7870
      @staceya7870 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, guys came after my dad one time cuz they lost and got mad. A guy came at my dad so my dad threw him on a pool table and accidentally broke his leg. 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @toolundertow96
      @toolundertow96 2 роки тому +3

      I've been regarded as one of, if not the best pool players in my little college town. Mainly according to random frat guys that haven't taken the time to get to know some of the local players outside of the dive bar I frequent. And I am often approached by some of the old heads at the bar or the pool hall and asked to gamble on a game. But first of all I know I'm not nearly as consistent as I am "good" and second I am not a large guy. I'll be damned if I'm gonna get my ass beat because I hurt some frat dudes pride, so I've made it a personal rule that I will never gamble on the table.
      Occasionally will play for drinks among close friends "loser buys the next round " type shit. Maybe a 5$ bet here and there with people I've known for a long time. But I think I'm making the right call with that

  • @shanewaldron2971
    @shanewaldron2971 2 роки тому +48

    So glad to see a professional pool player getting the spotlight. Keep em coming… SVB, Jayson Shaw, Mika, Tony Chohan

    • @robs2355
      @robs2355 2 роки тому +3

      Pagulayan, Earl the Pearl, Archer, Hall, Hopkins, Dechaine, etc. So many to choose from!

    • @roadplayerproductions
      @roadplayerproductions 2 роки тому +2

      Yes keep 'em coming we need pool to be a big sport again!

    • @WontSeeReplies
      @WontSeeReplies 2 роки тому

      So who was the lowlife Filipino shark?

    • @VilleBlanc
      @VilleBlanc 2 роки тому +1

      Keith Mccready would have the best stories

    • @nate7778
      @nate7778 2 роки тому

      Yawn

  • @SecretAgentSuperDragon
    @SecretAgentSuperDragon 2 роки тому +7

    I love that Joe is into pool and is knowledgeable on the subject. I remember back in the day he had on Justin Collett from TAR. Cool podcast.

  • @cameroncruz9500
    @cameroncruz9500 2 роки тому +11

    Thank you so much for having a pool player on your podcast. We need more of that to keep growing pool again. Jayson shaw and Earl would be great.

  • @jopo7996
    @jopo7996 2 роки тому +34

    I can just hear Joey Diaz saying "We used cocaine as baby powder Joe Rogan."

  • @sloppystick
    @sloppystick 2 роки тому +10

    So happy to see Fedor on. Hate that Earl didn't respond! Please make the JRE challenge matches happen!!!!

  • @sixupsprite5501
    @sixupsprite5501 2 роки тому +11

    Pool is one of those games as a kid where you're most excited to be playing an adult game.

  • @vernonredmon7211
    @vernonredmon7211 2 роки тому +5

    Fedor is a great player and as well one of the nicest people you will talk to, he cam e through st louis missouri middle of this year and stuck around for couple days.
    I would love to see cue sports billiards, pool, snooker, and all variety of games within the mains just take off. Would do good for my soul.

  • @littlescott6162
    @littlescott6162 2 роки тому +17

    I would love to see Joe get Effren Reyes on his podcast. He’s probably the best ever.

  • @raymondlinares8307
    @raymondlinares8307 2 роки тому +5

    Always fun to see how the passion for pool transcends people from all walks of life and all types of backgrounds... Beautiful universal language and a great way to become "... A student of human moves". Thanks for having Fedor on Joe. Hope we can play some sometime

  • @ChristiannTyler
    @ChristiannTyler 2 роки тому +60

    Almost the entire clip without seeing joes eyes lol

    • @PRTube01
      @PRTube01 2 роки тому

      .

    • @dimesallen1082
      @dimesallen1082 2 роки тому +7

      To the gills

    • @CantTellYou
      @CantTellYou 2 роки тому +2

      only time I saw his eye was when he said how dumb he was back then.... right after he said “I was your age!” 😂

  • @Teelo99
    @Teelo99 Рік тому +6

    Joe Rogan putting pool back into mainstream with just one podcast. And Fedor making it to his studio is a huge accomplishment in recognition

  • @MrPlainoldjack
    @MrPlainoldjack 2 роки тому +48

    Joe is teaching the pool pro about pool 😂

    • @rogainegaming6924
      @rogainegaming6924 2 роки тому +4

      Joe was probably hustling in pool halls before this guy was even born.

    • @dertythegrower
      @dertythegrower 2 роки тому +7

      No, joe talks as if he knows there is other listeners... you might be new, so I am just sayin'

    • @noicemate9111
      @noicemate9111 2 роки тому

      @@dertythegrowercalm down I’m sure they know who joe is😂 it was a joke

    • @samkregar2087
      @samkregar2087 2 роки тому +1

      Have you seen
      Elon Musk meets Post Malone
      😆 it’s hilarious!! 👽

  • @smokinkinds
    @smokinkinds 2 роки тому +37

    Definitely need more pool players on the podcast. Fedor is a beast

    • @limosine
      @limosine 2 роки тому

      Nahhhhh

    • @867star
      @867star 2 роки тому

      ​@@limosine 100%. If you don't like, feel free to move on.

    • @limosine
      @limosine 2 роки тому

      @@867star yeah I tend to skip some like MMA and 🎱 pool ones.

  • @11deanski33
    @11deanski33 2 роки тому +1

    Finally. More pool talk please. I hope he does get involved in some tourneys, I would watch.

  • @tobynoll999
    @tobynoll999 2 роки тому +8

    I really wish he'd get Dave Matlock on. Some stories he has from earning his name "King of the Bar Box" are insane. Great story teller, wonderful person, and they've met before with TAR.

  • @cgsweat
    @cgsweat 2 роки тому +40

    Joe finally has an excuse to flex all his pool knowledge 🤣

    • @PNW_MX
      @PNW_MX 2 роки тому +1

      Or lack there of. Nobody refers to a pool shark as the guy dropping his pool cue or making noises when your opponent shoots. That’s just Tom foolery, borderline Jim trickery.

    • @loyal7597
      @loyal7597 2 роки тому

      Yea I don't even play pool and I know that ain't no pool shark. It just doesn't make any sense the way Joe described it.

    • @okeydokey2337
      @okeydokey2337 2 роки тому +3

      @@PNW_MX Actually the term "pool shark" is used by people that know nothing about pool to refer to somebody as a good player. The term "sharking" is used by actual players to refer to a player that tries to deliberately distract their opponents just before they make contact with the cueball on especially important shots.

    • @YayComity
      @YayComity Рік тому

      ​@@okeydokey2337 Okeydokey is absolutely correct.

  • @stingray427man
    @stingray427man 2 роки тому +11

    More on pool hustling or the bowling hustle would be cool 🤙

    • @everythingallin4905
      @everythingallin4905 2 роки тому +1

      > poker hustle

    • @gboyce975
      @gboyce975 2 роки тому

      Bowling hustle, lol. Kingpin was a spoof. Pool players have zero respect for bowlers.

  • @PostUp_Time
    @PostUp_Time Рік тому +1

    *FRED GORST WHISPERS AND MUMBLES WHEN HE TALKS*

  • @uriahotten3895
    @uriahotten3895 2 роки тому +7

    Need more interviews with these pool players. You think Joey Diaz has got some stories? Hear what some of these road players have seen. Intriguing stuff.

  • @weetodd
    @weetodd 2 роки тому +118

    I skipped most of high school to play pool almost every day in Dallas TX in the 80s. I clicked up with a few older guys who lived to play poker and pool. I was 16 when I started playing with them and eventually they asked me if I wanted to "go on the road" with them mostly across the southeast. I will wish I'd gone til the day I die. They were the coolest "characters" I have ever known and hope they are still with us. fucking cowboys

    • @jlobiafra
      @jlobiafra 2 роки тому +2

      Did you know CJ Wiley?

    • @weetodd
      @weetodd 2 роки тому +4

      @@jlobiafra I didn't as far as I can remember. I played with guys who wouldn't play tournaments (although I played some Busch League) They were pretty seedy, but great guys but hardcore gamblers. they taught me so much more about life than I could have ever learned in school. Ross LaDart, Hippie Dave and Jimmy were lights out players and real men. I briefly worked for a guy named John McChesney selling high end cues as well. I'm still trying to track down my old Schick lol.

    • @jlobiafra
      @jlobiafra 2 роки тому +3

      @@weetodd CJ Wiley is a legend in pool and put dallas on the map. He was a road player at first then started entering tournaments and has a famous pool hall in dallas. He use to travel with earl strickland

    • @roadplayerproductions
      @roadplayerproductions 2 роки тому +2

      Come join us on our next live stream! We talk shop, analyze the game and tell pool stories. We want to bring pool back to it's glory days and bring back the road Player icon.

    • @Nooop655
      @Nooop655 2 роки тому

      @@weetodd do u live paycheck to paycheck now

  • @kyle21milmax
    @kyle21milmax 9 місяців тому +1

    Congrats fedor on '24 masters

  • @stuartstogdill2406
    @stuartstogdill2406 2 роки тому +5

    Such a great episode... love when Joe gets honed in on one topic.

  • @gregthegroove
    @gregthegroove 2 роки тому +10

    I grew up in Chicago and played pool at Chris’s Billiards where Color of money was filmed and I also think the movie with Jackie Gleason. That place was so dope. Dark, except for those few lights above the table. It’s gritty and raw. Smoking was still around. We’d go in on a Friday night or whatever and just get lost and come out 3 hours later and time flew at the speed of light.

    • @dashiit1748
      @dashiit1748 2 роки тому +1

      Have you seen
      Elon Musk meets Post Malone
      😆 it’s hilarious!! 👽

    • @jimcarroll1743
      @jimcarroll1743 2 роки тому

      Chris s on Milwaukee .. real sharks in there.. gritty a great word for it

  • @erichammond2466
    @erichammond2466 Рік тому

    Grew up in the late 70's through the early 90's in my father's pool hall...most fascinating time of my life...

  • @anthonyvaughn7988
    @anthonyvaughn7988 2 роки тому +7

    Joe is an amazing pool player. I wish he could do for Pool what he did for MMA. I can imagine a celebrity Pool League, Pro Pool Associations and even conferences for Leagues. The vision is here he just has the ability to make it happen. If only ..

  • @travisstockton8591
    @travisstockton8591 2 роки тому +1

    So awesome you got this interview man. Love it

  • @garybrazell6139
    @garybrazell6139 2 роки тому +3

    Great Interview. Fedor in the top 3 players in the world. My dad hustled pool for years. He hustled in bars playing bumper pool or some called skill pool. There was actually a championship in the game in Florida. My dad won it. There was an article with my dad and Mosconi.

  • @jordansobkowiak7226
    @jordansobkowiak7226 2 роки тому +1

    Reyes would be such a good guest!

  • @HillbillyIslandLife
    @HillbillyIslandLife 2 роки тому +4

    First! Fedor is the man! He got screwed out-of the Mosconi Cup team this year!

  • @hellyeah2299
    @hellyeah2299 11 місяців тому

    I took some lessons from Wade Crane in the late 80's when he was in Knoxville, TN and playing at Comer's. When Wade was sober and focused on pool he was basically unbeatable. I've never seen a better player live. When preparing for a one pocket tournament I watched Wade spot great players 6 balls and he would destroy them. He showed me what was possible in pool.

  • @ericjadanistan5692
    @ericjadanistan5692 2 роки тому +3

    Played in LA years ago as an aussie. Locals changing rules mid game was a highlight. "Cant shoot back", "didnt nominate that ball to hit", "ball didnt hit the cusion" etc. Never mentioned any of this pregame, only when losing 😂

  • @fingal113
    @fingal113 2 роки тому +4

    best book i ever read about the old school wild life of pool hustling "McGoorty: A Pool Room Hustler by Robert Byrne". its soooo good and well done.

  • @bertblue9683
    @bertblue9683 Рік тому

    I'll watch every JRE that's related to pool. The Jeremy Jones interview was outstanding. Fedor is the young stud.

  • @adamcafe705
    @adamcafe705 2 роки тому +3

    Joe is literally a kid in candy story talking about pool with him. 😂

  • @michaelgavin2843
    @michaelgavin2843 Рік тому +1

    He’s definitely talking about de Luna with the sharking 😂

    • @kninezuniga6005
      @kninezuniga6005 10 місяців тому +1

      Had to be when was this Filmed..
      I can see De Luna doing it, personally met him🤣

  • @michaellewis5836
    @michaellewis5836 2 роки тому +3

    Joes addictive personality traits coming through heavy on this clip 😂 he is rarely this excited and obviously has massive respect for the guest due to the fact pool is one of Joes competitive guilty pleasures. Miss this enthusiasm on JRE.

    • @dummy999
      @dummy999 2 роки тому +1

      And due to the fact that he's the best pool player in the world at the moment. He's ridiculously good

  • @JCBeAtS1000
    @JCBeAtS1000 2 роки тому +1

    I think the player Fedor was talking about in the beginning is Carlo Biado

    • @Billy-bn1rp
      @Billy-bn1rp 5 місяців тому

      nah not Carlo its jeffery de luna, he's kinda known for his antics

  • @waseemcurry7062
    @waseemcurry7062 2 роки тому +3

    LETS GOOOOO this is what we need. And this is how I know Joe still has a passion for the game

  • @calebvinson8703
    @calebvinson8703 2 роки тому +1

    Love this. This is the JRE I fell in love with.

  • @jackross7_11
    @jackross7_11 2 роки тому +11

    Paul Turnner out of Riverdale Ga, is a great example of a world beater gone down the drain. He could have been world champ if not for drugs. He was one of the best bar box’s players in the world.

    • @billysikes1374
      @billysikes1374 2 роки тому

      Paul was the best bar table player in the Country 30 years ago, huge pos, Would dump his mom for $10

    • @jackross7_11
      @jackross7_11 2 роки тому

      @@billysikes1374 Just goes to show what them drugs will do to ya. last time I seen him play he beat Paul sung at Mr. cues in a one pocket tournament. He died a few years back of liver failure. Really surprised some one recognize the name.

    • @billysikes1374
      @billysikes1374 2 роки тому +2

      @@jackross7_11 im from Savannah Ga, knew Paul my whole life, Thought he died in a car accident

    • @jackross7_11
      @jackross7_11 2 роки тому

      @@billysikes1374 Naw unfortunately his lifestyle caught up to him. Cirrhosis of the liver. Man I use to watch him shoot around at Riverdale pool Hall. I would listen to the old stories about how good Paul was and the gambling he did back in the day. Paul, Ground hog ,Josh and lefty would go on for hours like Joe and this guy did.

    • @somepeoplecanthandlethetruth
      @somepeoplecanthandlethetruth 2 роки тому

      @@jackross7_11 Lots of players let drugs destroy them, Keith Mccready is another. I knew Paul as well, used to have a hustle shot where he would freeze a ball center on the end rail freeze the cue on the other end rail same spot and cut it in. On a snooker table!

  • @pleasejoe
    @pleasejoe 2 роки тому +1

    In my 20's, I grew up playing Efren Reyes in Milpitas, CA without knowing the context. The awesome pool hall was named Edgie's Billiard. Efren was proud of his Acura RSX Type-S. Man, that dude can chain smoke and then hit his oxygen tank...boss

  • @johnsoapmactavish9921
    @johnsoapmactavish9921 2 роки тому +29

    I still remember that episode of Drake and Josh where Josh was really good at pool

    • @TheMrNukeman
      @TheMrNukeman 2 роки тому +3

      Josh was a hell of a hustler that episode!

    • @Kazekagabe
      @Kazekagabe 2 роки тому +4

      Pool scenes are cool. Like Fresh Prince when Will gets hustled and Uncle Phil goes and empties the hustler lol

    • @jeremybyrd8555
      @jeremybyrd8555 2 роки тому

      Drakes Mom in real life was a world class pool champion.

    • @charlesfinnegan7930
      @charlesfinnegan7930 2 роки тому

      @@jeremybyrd8555 Yep Robin Dodson

  • @cgsweat
    @cgsweat 2 роки тому +2

    Fedor Gorst: I don't want to say his name.
    Joe Rogan: WHAT DOES HIS NAME RHYME WITH???

  • @ethandavis961
    @ethandavis961 2 роки тому +5

    Bruh it's my dude Fedor!! This was a collab I never knew I needed but am so happy to see

    • @TheBeigeRaider
      @TheBeigeRaider 2 роки тому +1

      He don’t know you lil bruh

    • @ethandavis961
      @ethandavis961 2 роки тому +1

      @@TheBeigeRaider I know that but idc I really like both of these guys so I'm excited.

    • @TheBeigeRaider
      @TheBeigeRaider 2 роки тому

      @@ethandavis961 bro don’t reply to me leave me and my family alone you psycho

    • @ethandavis961
      @ethandavis961 2 роки тому

      @@TheBeigeRaider What are you on about? Stfu dude you commented on my post. Don't tell me what to do.

  • @bennettweiss8644
    @bennettweiss8644 Рік тому

    What a treat! My favorite podcaster and my favorite pool player together!

  • @longshotloki3130
    @longshotloki3130 2 роки тому +147

    Joe is so great due to his random fact crap gathering...sure he does some study for guest but he seems to have decent know everywhere

    • @DJMPTV
      @DJMPTV 2 роки тому +13

      he loves pool as much as mma

    • @jamesmayle3787
      @jamesmayle3787 2 роки тому +7

      There’s this set of circumstances you’re tied to. It’s in the foundation of this universe. Pay attention, there is no coincidence. God exists. The Bible is truth.
      We all see these clips in reality. Where we know we’re being talked to. By the universe. We explain it away for our own sanity. What we want, and the things we must do to obtain them, verses what we learn God wants. It’s hard to get those two on the same level. But the shock of knowing what we must give up causes so many to avoid digging deeper. There are reasons why. Poison exists on a spiritual level, sin taints our immortal souls. It isn’t that we’re bad. It’s that Satan attached a curse to actions we take, claiming us as him. Like a drowning man tying himself to your ankles.
      God offers the knife to free yourself. Grace is a free gift God wants to give us all. It removes that stain of sin on our souls by forgiving the mistakes we made in ignorance. It’s just that God has a nature he cannot control. As our loving father he cannot give to one without another. He has to give us our own free will, one and all if anyone. Sin is something that takes many forms, and we all fall short of the glory of God. Being perfect isn’t the point. It’s about forgiveness. God can’t blanket forgive sins just because he knows our life’s circumstances. That’s forgive the devil too, considering he was an angel and only sinned one. Again, God can’t do for one child without the other. We have far more sins by count. He’s responsible for all the evil on earth, but it is the humanity that carried out his will.
      God has made standers we all must reach spiritually in life. Soul growth and development that shows faith. Shows that we’ve taken the teachings of Jesus Christ to heart.
      It’s all about forgiveness.
      To be forgiven we must forgive.
      It all starts at the heart, at home, with our family. Those people that have loved us, sheltered, fed, etc. working though the grievances we all build up with our parents is a huge spiritual milestone. That’s really what sets everything into motion as an adult. Once that gear grins freely the next fall into place so smoothly.
      Jesus Christ is lord. It’s something you learn inside once you clear out that inner baggage. You bleed your heart clean though your eyes. You understand why you need to submit to Jesus Christ and ask for forgiveness.
      Everything you ever need is in three books of the Bible. Genesis explains the problem, why these circumstances are so important. Mathew explains what’s been done to fix the system. And just one more, one book of the Bible you chose yourself. I Suggest James. It has many interesting lessons condensed and straightforward.
      Please trust me. I know how it sounds. It really does all begin with the inner work of forgiveness. It teaches your soul so many important lessons.
      Jesus Christ is the way truth and life.
      😊 😊😊

    • @scottfrost8956
      @scottfrost8956 2 роки тому +1

      Joes pool knowledge is high. He’s a great player himself and been in and out of the world of the game for years.

    • @serginho6837
      @serginho6837 2 роки тому +1

      @@jamesmayle3787 cool story 😴

    • @jamalbrown9501
      @jamalbrown9501 2 роки тому +2

      Have you seen
      Elon Musk meets Post Malone
      😆 it’s hilarious!! 👽

  • @Latabrine
    @Latabrine 2 роки тому

    I grew up and worked in pool halls for 19 years. Learned almost everything I needed to know about life, in pool halls.

  • @ImPredial
    @ImPredial Рік тому +7

    Joe needs to have more pool players on his podcast!! Could really help bring more attention to this amazing game, pool requires an insane amount of skill, focus, and dedication, pool players don’t get the credit they truly deserve.

  • @alexanderholcombe2309
    @alexanderholcombe2309 10 місяців тому

    Fresh off an 11-1 night this vid was a perfect recommendation

  • @HillbillyIslandLife
    @HillbillyIslandLife 2 роки тому +13

    Way to go Joe Rogan! Promote Pool! I've been saying it for years.......You are the key to it being huge. Get us some huge sponsors!!

    • @TheBeigeRaider
      @TheBeigeRaider 2 роки тому

      I would wreck you in pool

    • @joshb6013
      @joshb6013 2 роки тому

      I'm sorry to break this to you, but not even Joe Rogan can make pool huge. Nothing against it, it's just not appealing to the masses. Probably because it's kind of boring.

    • @joshb6013
      @joshb6013 2 роки тому +1

      Though I'd watch pool before I'd watch baseball, so... who knows.

    • @gabriel-uc1uz
      @gabriel-uc1uz 2 роки тому +2

      @@joshb6013 Pool can be very entertaining and even if it weren't Golf to almost anyone is boring unless they've played before or have some deep understanding of the game.

    • @joshb6013
      @joshb6013 2 роки тому

      @@gabriel-uc1uz Golf: Fun to play (sort of), boring AF to watch.
      The only thing golf had going for it is rich people played it, so the money is there, country clubs and all that. Pool is for the lower echelons of society, historically speaking, so even if more people like it overall, there is less money in it.

  • @Wolfie19o4
    @Wolfie19o4 2 роки тому +2

    Using cocaine instead of baby powder for the cue is craaaaazy Lmaoooo

  • @vainwretch
    @vainwretch 2 роки тому +14

    When i was 15 i had a friend who was 18 who's parents owned a poolhall when he was younger.
    He was so good he would start out with maybe $2 and keep playing for money until he won enough money for us to eat and drink.
    It was on 6 ft coin operated table's .
    One day my buddy called the 8 ball on the break 5 times in a row and made it all 5 times ! He was on fire ! : )
    There were hustler's back then with nicknames they dressed and carried themselves a certain way .
    You always could pick them out when they walked in.
    Most places allowed minors until it got later but the bowling alley had tables .
    Good memories and different times .

  • @luckyb4541
    @luckyb4541 2 роки тому

    I played on the old bar tables , plug in 2 quarters, challenger paid, a quarter on the table was your reservation , call shot no sacrifice no hook on the 8, cant bring a ball up on a bar table so everything stayed down. I lived on the pool table all night from age 18 to 23 , played on acid one night and held 3 tables simultaneously for a time the pockets just looked huge ,couldnt miss for a couple hours , won a lot of games . greatest night of my life pool wise

  • @PokemonTCG_SquirtleSquad
    @PokemonTCG_SquirtleSquad 2 роки тому +7

    Joe should have Earl Strickland on.

  • @knowbloc
    @knowbloc 2 роки тому

    man I’m loving these guys talk about pool and I’m loving all the comments sharing their pool stories also such a great game

  • @syco133
    @syco133 2 роки тому +62

    I grew up in a pool hall if you had some cash you could get in the back room to play poker when I was 12-13 I won so much money this was back woods Kentucky there would be chicken fighting afterwards it was never about the pool or the fights it was about the gambling

    • @DailyCorvid
      @DailyCorvid 2 роки тому

      I never cared for sports until I got into gambling, it was the same for me. Football first because it was predictable, and later fights because they weren't. But they switch places every decade or two lol.

    • @kingdolo23
      @kingdolo23 2 роки тому

      Sounds like good times

    • @peepininmywindow5170
      @peepininmywindow5170 2 роки тому +4

      Same here. I grew up in a bowling alley, that had a back room for poker and 2 pool tables in the front. My dad bowled there 3 nights a week. I learned to be tough in that environment, but I learned a shitload of street smarts.
      This was small town Texas, That same crowd of people that gambled also ran chicken fights, dog fights and animal baying- where they would put hog dogs in a pen with a wild boar and see if either the could pen the hog or die trying. These underbelly type lifestyles are largely things of the past due to the immorality, violence, and trouble they being. I saw all this shit young, and it was so normal in those environments that you just don’t think anything of it. I’ve long left, and rarely go home but I randomly think of those times and just can’t believe I made it out of that shit. Cause a lot of people didn’t

    • @syco133
      @syco133 2 роки тому +1

      @@peepininmywindow5170 I get it man and I miss it but I hate it. Those old tobacco barns with black plastic stabled up but 100 cars out side didn’t give whit away. I started hustling for my boots. I am a wrestling fan Jerry lawler was the man I hustled $200 in like 85-86 and ordered boots like he had

    • @peepininmywindow5170
      @peepininmywindow5170 2 роки тому +3

      @@syco133There’s a romanticism in it right? Nostalgia isn’t the right word although it does exist. But it was these underbelly’s that made this country what it was. That lawlessness, knowingly breaking the law, has a mystique to it if that’s the right word.
      One thing it did teach me, was how to relate to individuals of EVERY walk of life. I learned to read people, who you could trust by their handshakes, read between the lines and words. The experiences from those nights have gotten me into some WILD places through my life. I’ve been more fortunate than I could have imagined. The hard thing is knowing, in retrospect that most of those people we grew up with, that was as good as it would ever get for them. Some are dead, some in jail. Some still living at home burned out on drugs and booze. I went back when Hurricane Harvey Tore the coastline up. All those memories flooded back. Talk about emotional.

  • @TheGunDude
    @TheGunDude 2 роки тому +1

    I’m so pumped to see a pro pool player on!!!! Fedor is great!!!! We have to get earl on!!!!

  • @jaroslavcech225
    @jaroslavcech225 2 роки тому

    Finally!! Been waiting for this for ages now! Can I watch the full episode anywhere?)

  • @timcanup8522
    @timcanup8522 2 роки тому +9

    I won alot of matches on mushrooms back in the day.

    • @lmlslicklml
      @lmlslicklml 2 роки тому +1

      I love playing on Lsd mushrooms etc. been really thinking about doing it for tourneys

    • @jacobreyes4573
      @jacobreyes4573 2 роки тому

      @@lmlslicklml 😂😂😂

  • @ghostyz7676
    @ghostyz7676 Рік тому +2

    Thank you SO much for interviewing Fedor. You picked the right first pro pool player to have a conversation with. I've hung with him a few times since he lives near my pool hall and he's such a humble, shy but silly guy. He really loves pool, but it's also a huge job and pressure on him. I've also met other pro players like Skylar and Fedor and Kristina are just truly good people who aren't part of the drugs and drinking side of pool (just the gambling of course). People like to crap on Russian athletes but when they decide to do something, they take it very seriously and go all in without complaining. They practice 8-12 hours every day whether they want to or not because it's their job. They use the money to give to their families, friends, and especially now that they can't go back home and have to support living in the US. Being a pro pool player is very difficult and should be taken much more seriously by spectators and fans. Fedor is #2 in the world according to his Fargo rating, and he'll eventually be #1 from sheer work ethic, regardless of experience. Some people are naturals but that only takes you so far. I'm surprised you didn't also interview Kristina since she has so much to say and is one of the top females in pool currently, but I'm just glad you were able to get Fedor to talk.

  • @TheBeigeRaider
    @TheBeigeRaider 2 роки тому +31

    A pool shark is a pet shark that’s kept in a salt water pool.

    • @ghostrider764
      @ghostrider764 2 роки тому

      Well in a pool hall it’s a whole different beast

  • @liagomez2410
    @liagomez2410 2 роки тому +2

    I love this episode! Pool is my absolute favorite game. 💗💗

  • @JorgeRodriguez-ih8ub
    @JorgeRodriguez-ih8ub 2 роки тому +6

    I'm a horrible pool player, and have zero interest in the "science of the game", but I found this conversation really enjoyable

  • @rcathegreat4358
    @rcathegreat4358 2 роки тому

    Almost fell asleep listening to this ..

  • @jaccobrollice6674
    @jaccobrollice6674 2 роки тому +6

    Joe, pool players will be HOLDING YOU TO YOUR WORD! We need you. Start hosting some matches. Your ad revenue is more prize money than any professional tourney.

  • @SKD_TRASH_at_Blazblue
    @SKD_TRASH_at_Blazblue 2 роки тому +1

    Tom Cruise, Paul Newman & Forest Whitaker: Yes... the dark side of pool INDEED...-_-

  • @dragonrider9051
    @dragonrider9051 2 роки тому +29

    You never left main street billiards in Mesa AZ in the 90s. Without fighting a group of people.

    • @robertmiller4217
      @robertmiller4217 2 роки тому +4

      in the valley of the sun

    • @navajo1334
      @navajo1334 2 роки тому +4

      Lazy que too

    • @dragonrider9051
      @dragonrider9051 2 роки тому +2

      @@navajo1334 🤣🤣 totally, with in 5 min my first time in there. That place was rowdy for sure!!

    • @gerk7238
      @gerk7238 2 роки тому

      I would have beaten up all them bad boys there. I’m just really tough and strong 🫠…fyi

  • @x-raymind7778
    @x-raymind7778 2 роки тому

    Man joes a real pool fan the way he was listing all those name reminded me of when I hear old baseball players names from the 90’s

  • @nimajnebrm
    @nimajnebrm 2 роки тому +4

    Need more pool players on the podcast 🙃

    • @gboyce975
      @gboyce975 2 роки тому

      Bring in players that played on the road in 80's and 90's. Much more entertaining stories than this guy. Bring in guys like Earl, Keith, Kim Davenport, and CJ Wiley.

  • @hakuamper365
    @hakuamper365 10 місяців тому

    Pool brought me closer with my dad. When I was younger, he would get me into money games. He would put up the cash, talk trash with his pool buddies/enemies, get himself into a match, etc. It was a blast. He died a few years ago . He was crossing the street on his way to play a money game and a drunk driver was speeding on the wrong side of the road and hit him.
    I recently started playing again. I always think of him when i pick up a cue stick.

  • @joshsegg2814
    @joshsegg2814 2 роки тому +59

    For how adamant Joe is that he never did something sure makes u think he did

    • @scottash351
      @scottash351 2 роки тому +31

      "I never did do cocaine." Yeah right Joe. All that time in LA in the 90's and you never tried it. Hard to believe.

    • @bigben42
      @bigben42 2 роки тому +20

      Nah I believe him, no reason for him to lie

    • @DailyCorvid
      @DailyCorvid 2 роки тому +6

      @@bigben42 how do you know that?

    • @RichardCookerly
      @RichardCookerly 2 роки тому +18

      @@DailyCorvid I mean, he’s talked about every other drug he’s done…why lie about coke? Lol

    • @bigben42
      @bigben42 2 роки тому +3

      @@RichardCookerly exactly, it’s inconsequential

  • @SlickBilliards
    @SlickBilliards 2 місяці тому

    He’s talking about Jeff De Luna, best breaker imo

  • @tech1238
    @tech1238 2 роки тому +8

    Joe “Bogan rhymes with Rogan” Rogan

  • @Mr9ballin
    @Mr9ballin 2 роки тому

    Stevie Dunlap stunned the field at The Cue in Cookeville, Tn one night.

  • @davet3659
    @davet3659 2 роки тому +6

    Look at Joe trying to slide in “I’ve never done cocaine” comment. Bet all listeners had that 🙄

  • @johnnyroc
    @johnnyroc 2 роки тому +2

    Crazy how humble Fedor sounds. Prob #2 in the world right now behind Joshua. Possibly #1. Fargo rating has him at #2 just a few points behind Joshua. His game really elevated last 2 years if he keeps growing like that he could become the goat.

    • @johnnyroc
      @johnnyroc 2 роки тому

      @JosephJamesRogan Huh?

  • @zachrorke9046
    @zachrorke9046 2 роки тому +6

    You definitely learn a lot about yourself and other people playing pool. You get tested by others and you find out what you will stand up to. Also just in the game you aren't really playing them but playing against yourself. You know the shots to take... That's the easy part but can you control yourself to make them.