No, the dislikes are from the rest of us following behind a damn Subaru driving 10 under the limit. Every one of you turds drives SO DAMN SLOW… every where you go… figure it out!
Kirwan Kars I know. It’s made by a company in the UK. Mate, I knew you were just an anti CVT person when you first commented, I was just being nice by responding. I did heaps of research & what I found was the anti-CVT crowd are most that way due to aesthetics. Mechanically speaking they are unique yes, but the hysteria about them is basically bullshit. It’s fine, I’m fine. Thanks for your concern.
I went from a 16 WRX Limited to a 20 Forester Touring. I have owned the Forester for 8 months and absolutely love it. Its super comfortable and I don't mind the power difference because of it. A simple part like an auto start/stop eliminator will fix any nuisances with owning it. I highly recommend it.
I am in a similar situation as you. Had a 17 WRx prem and traded for a 2022 forester Touring. I have to say I do sometimes miss the power from the WRX though, but the forester is definitely more practical for my lifestyle now.
Thanks for this video. My 2019 is my third Forester and the best yet (2009 & 2014 previously). Improved fuel economy and better road manners than before. I do go off-road a bit and appreciate that ability, but really, 99% of the time is on pavement at legal speeds. And there's enough HP for that. I wouldn't trade fuel economy for more power.
Turning off traction control on older forester models when in X-Mode worked just as well as the new X-Mode Mud and Snow. Just a tip for the older forester model drivers.
You don't want to turn off the traction control in the snow. You want to turn it off in mud and in sand. In deep snow, turning off the traction control will simply make your spinning tires turn the snow under them into ice (by compacting the snow under them), causing you to get stuck even worse. If you lived in a snowy area, you'd know. Snow/ice conditions require gentle starts with maximum traction and little torque.
We love the adaptive cruise control. Makes long drives much easier, low stress and safer. Just lock on to a car doing a reasonable speed and let them drive for you. It will hold a safe following distance - and it brakes before you even notice the cars in front are slowing quickly
I agree! I purchased a 2021 Outback Onyx XT and the adaptive cruise control is great, especially for long distance interstate driving. What I love about it is that you can change your following distance (relative to your speed) with the push of a button. I usually have it a couple extra car lengths back just for safety's sake.
I now tend to commute to work with minimal pedaling. I just use the cruise, change the speed increments, and just let Forester do the rest. I find it more fuel efficient too. Unless I run into red lights or speed bumps as the first vehicle, I can get by without touching the accelerator or brakes.
I beg to differ, for me the adaptive cruise brakes too late and too close, since normally you would brake when you see brake lights but the subaru is looking at the car speed to match it, so its delayed
I have a 2020 Forester Sport, and still loving it so far since getting it in June. I had a 2015 that didn't have X-mode, which is one of the reasons I wanted to upgrade.
Just purchased one of these after trading in a 2016 Crosstrek. This is my first automatic, but I'm cautiously optimistic. This review was one of the things that convinced me. Thanks.
Thank you for such a great explanation and demonstration of the X-Mode system! I bought a 2019 Subaru Forester back in the spring, and with New England winter weather fast approaching, I wanted to be sure I understood how to best utilize this feature. I watched a couple of other videos which were okay, but yours really made it clear! I feel much more confident about it now.
@@whatever_it_takes6691just stumbled across this comment years after 😊… Japan has a rich alpine ski culture. The snow they get is astounding. It’s as if it falls from the ski AND grows up from the ground. It’s on my ski bucket list
We loved the stance of the Forrester...but the main reason we chose the Outback was because of the available 3.6r engine. For a vehicle thats marketed for all terrain capability, it should have a more powerful engine option for buyers. And our Outback still gets great gas mileage so we’re glad we chose to go with the extra power. But I loved the more SUV style feel of driving the Forrester.
Based on all the great reviews you've shown, I bought a 2019 Forester Touring last August. I love it! I was hoping for snow to test the X mode, but only got a tiny bit in the Philly area last winter. Can't wait until this winter!
After watching countless videos (& also test driving) different makes and models, I have watched all of your videos on the Subaru Forester. I test drove one and fell in love with it. I am now driving a 2021 Forester Sport. What an amazing vehicle. I am in love. Thank you for all your thorough videos on the new Forester. These videos convinced me, and I have zero regrets. Fantastic reviewer.
I bought a forester 2019 and comparing with another of 2014, with the same motor potency, it is a more refined product with various small details solved. Actually a very good product, with a correct price!
That's amazing that extra setting for mud and snow is amazing I have an old 2003 outback and it goes places people can't believe and it has to do with the all-wheel drive even on regular tires it's just insane I really like this version of the Forester
We've only had our 2022 Forester Premium for a week. But, love it! We live in central Texas near Austin. So, we don't get the snow. But, we do see a snow/ice storm about once a year. The car has a very comfortable ride with an excellent turning radius. I can't wait to take it on one of our trips and possibly get into some off road/weather conditions. The only thing I would have wanted, would be more horsepower. I traded in a 2005 Saturn Vue with front wheel drive and a 250 hp Honda engine. Excellent car. With that said, my wife and I did a lot research on SUV's especially Subaru...and here we are.
I have the 2019 forester touring! I love this car!! It does need more horsepower.. don’t get me wrong in sport mode it’s pretty fast but just a bump in horsepower would be nice never the less it’s just amazing!
Im a sales woman at Subaru in California and this is very helpful for my customers and myself! I love the sport and I plan on buying one myself. It has hill decent control into the XMode should it should slow itself but it ,of course, doesnt detect tall rocks haha im in love with this car more than my BMW
I currently have a 2016 Outback 3.6R, and I love it! When I finally decide to get a new car, the Forester will have likely continued on its path of evolution to become even better than it is now. Hopefully, that evolution will include MORE horsepower in an efficient drivetrain package. When that ‘new car need’ arrives, I will be all over it!!
I want to see a “trail” model of the Outback, Forester and Crosstrek. 1) remove the CVT. 2) add a low range for better crawl ratio. 3) lifted 2” with 2” larger tires. 4) full skids underneath. 5) stronger running gear. If this were achieved Subaru would not keep up with the demand.
theyre comming out with wilderness outbacks and foresters that come from the factory with a lift and more aggressive wheels, and the crosstrek is getting the 2.5 in the top trim
I did that to my 2016 Ouback 3.6r. LP Aventure lift and the biggest widest tires that would fit in the wheel well. It's better on the beach than my last three jeeps but not as good in dirt as my 2005XT with a real tranny. The computer cuts power too soon so it won't climb embankments like my 2005 did.
Add a niche trim the Sport+ with both skid plates (use metal this time!) AND the XT engine. This would be a real SPORT level to this Forester, much more than just some orange trim! Initially, use a healthy discount to spur sales!!
@@JoseVargas-bs8gx No, the XT was made in Japan and such was only available in limited numbers. I had to hunt for mine, and drive 2 hours south to the only dealership with one. You can only get sales on what you have available. Subaru just wants all their north american cars made in north america for more money. Another factor could be saving the FADIT blocks for Subaru's new 3 row soccer mom car.
Subarus are amazing in the snow - love seeing them in comparison tests with their "competition." I was hopelessly stuck in 9+ inches of snow on a Michigan seasonal road until I engaged X-Mode and stepped on it. It was just like in this video except I needed to go up a slight incline. I will always own a Subaru.
I have the 2017 Impreza Sport and there have been a number of times this winter when I got home and said to myself "No other car would've made it through that." Really impressed with what I've seen from this new Forester though.
I can relate, this has been a really bad winter in Michigan. Living in Northern Michigan has always been a challenge concerning driving. Our 2015 Outback has had no issues dealing with anything. We run Michelin all season progressive pattern tires that hands down are the best tires I have ever owned on any vehicle. Snow tires are NOT needed on this vehicle.
I second all the XT comments. Searched for my '18 XT after hearing of them axing it for '19. Got the last one on the East coast in Touring trim and we love it. I'd like to see Subaru develop a plan to financially be able to have an XT option again (I know their sales weren't good hence the discontinuation) with front, mid and diff skid plates, as well as a higher mounted intake in the engine bay and possible relocation of the turbo from the front bottom of the engine to somewhere a little more safe.
I just got my 2023 crosstrek into 12 inches of snow. Xmode did terrific job when I got stuck. The regular mode was more than enough for driving in the 12 inches deep snow
I have a 2020 Subaru Forester Sport and love it. It’s my first Subaru and I am extremely happy with it. I have not used the XMode in snow yet but it works great on knarly old mountain roads. Cheers!
I finally know the applications to use Dual X-Mode! This will be my first winter with my 19 Sport and this video cleared up all the questions I had on when/how to use X-Mode! Also, very impressive!
Great video! I just bought a 2021 Forester, however, we don't get much snow in Southern California. Nonetheless, it's good to see how it performs in a realistic snow situation, for when we go to the mountains this winter. Makes me feel more much more comfortable. Thanks again for producing this video.
True, but most people in the U.S. don't live in areas that need dedicated WINTER (not snow) tires. It would just be a waste of money and comfort. Occasional snow storms don't justify driving 2.9 months out of the 3 that are wintery on loud tires with less dry performance that wear out faster and cost more. Now if you live in the mountains or the snow belt, sure, you should have winter tires. Otherwise, good all-seasons are all you need.
@@afcgeo882 Winter tires aren't just for snowy areas. They improve handling and traction on cold road surfaces, which makes it safer to drive. All-seasons suck in Chicago winters.
Subaru made it clear that since only 5% of all Forester owners bought the XT they didn’t feel compelled to carry it forward and as a cost saving measure it made sense to them.
I just purchased a 2021 forester limited & absolutely love it! Can't wait to get my husband one as well! We recently went up north on a trip to Sacramento new-year weekend and it had been raining heavily there's a stretch of road called grapevine that gets icy ...was definitely nervous going thru there and the car had an icon that lit up that looked like a snowflake..letting us know it detected snow. The car handled amazing! Made to Sacramento...only bad thing while on our trip we were on freeway and something hit my windshield and cracked it! Thankfully I purchased the windshield warranty. It was 100% covered, invoice showed $1550 price to replace. Service has been outstanding!
this was one of the videos that lead me to the decision on buying the 2020 forester sport with the exact same color im at 38k miles now after 3 years of driving. i absolutely love it . I hope they come out with a more powerful powertrain either the 2.4turbo or a hybrid with 200+hp
I watched every review on the new Subaru Forester, and this one pushed me over the edge and I bought one. I've driven it to many places and it's amazing to drive, I love this vehicle more then I thought I would. Also the fuel economy is amazing. Subaru hit their mark. Their AWD system is no joke. And it's so comfortable. Honestly feel so lucky to have this car. :)
@@armaniusmaximus i dont think you will regret, getting one. Its really made for people that are practical in execution, also there is alot of space, so it makes for a great road trip vehicle.
@@JoseVargas-bs8gx people bought them. But not the right people. You can say that about every car. People will always buy the base of everything civic, camry, BMW etc. No one ever buys the premium of that specific vehicle
NEVER stop moving when going through deeper snow. Momentum is your friend when it comes to snow. Once you have a vehicle moving keep it moving. That goes with ANY vehicle.
Thank you for this video. I just traded my 2022 Forester Touring for a 2023 Forester Wilderness. The seats are much more comfortable, the ride is smoother and quieter, and it handles better. Both vehicles did well in Snow/Dirt Mode. I have yet to feel the need for Deep Snow/Dirt Mode. I doubt that I will need Winter tires.
Loved this video, though I'm going to be controversial and say that the car doesn't need the additional Horsepower. It gets amazing gas mileage and was able to pull that CX-9 to safety just fine. With that, I'm confident in saying Sport>XT!
I drove one recently and am thinking of buying one. And I agree. It’s gets up to 60 fast enough, launches hard and quick letting you get out in traffic easily. And that awesome gas mileage. And I am looking at a 2013 model. So even less power.
Its a great vehicle but definitely needs a turbo. He’s right about the added comfort of the new models. This will be my first winter testing it out in the snow.
Deep snow is a gimmick. Just turn off traction and floor it lol works every time in my outback. I rarely use x mode off road. Regular mode works just fine. I don’t get why regular x mode cuts power if it can’t find traction.
You had me until the slurp of the espresso 🤣.. Just kidding great video! Just signed the papers to buy a 2019 sport and this video definitely helped ease my mind about the purchase.. Can't wait to go and try to get stuck 😁👍
I would love to see videos like this on vehicles like the new RAV4 (Ideally adventure or one with multi-drive mode select), CR-V, and other similar AWD crossovers.
Used to have a Sonata here in Minnesota and would absolutely have to shovel to get the car out of the parking lot. I got a 2020 Forester and love that I can just drive out now matter what now. Now I can just clear the snow when I get home!
I am a 66 year old female and just moved to Utah. I sold my 2012 Toyota Camry (great in So. Cal, but not a "snow car") and chose a 2022 Forester. I am nervous for the snowy conditions that happen here, but this video made me so much less concerned...thank you! I just hit "subscribe!"
Subaru made it clear that since only 5% of all Forester owners bought the XT they didn’t feel compelled to carry it forward and as a cost saving measure it made sense to them.
@@brianleggiero the MT requires a different AWD system. Not making it and not having the assembly lines for it saves LOTS of money. Same for the turbo engine.
@@tonychau1983 Hey Tony, I have a 2010 forester outdoor with the manual transmission. Took me a while to locate one and I had to travel for it. But I love it! I bought it because I had 3 imprezas prior to the forester, and I needed more cargo space. I see it as basically a lifted impreza because it shared most of the same components as the imp' during these model years. My foz has the Vehicle Dynamics Control which is the only downside. Yaw detectors in the ecu cut power to the wheels when it senses me drifting. So I really cant play around in the snow anymore unless I pull the ABS fuse under the hood. Ultimately though, it is my swiss army knife vehicle. I can do all my offloading/fishing/camping/rally stuff no problems. Great car
I bought a used 2010 forester a few years back...still have it...about 2 weeks after getting it...I went back home for a vacation which is Ohio to The STL...which is a little over 350 miles... You know when going on vacations you always set aside X amount of monies for gas...Well I set aside $200 just for this trip...I WAS AMAZED THAT I ONLY SPENT $80 FOR MY ROUND TRIP... So this coming October I'll be trading my baby in for a newer Forester...Hopefully for this one...And being I was raised by a mechanic and the only car that was good enough was a Chevy...or A Cadillac...lol But...I'm very very impressed with Subaru and feel just as safe... Thank You Subaru 🚙 💕💕💕
We've had 3 WRX's, a Crosstrek and now a 2.5 Outback... I LOVED the WRX's for the power and torque. My wife was getting too many tickets, so we got a Crosstrek... After 90K miles, we just bought an Outback and yeah, its not crazy power, but hey, we don't tow with it and it does "fine" on grades and passing... Turbo power means lower MPG and premium fuel- In California that is $4 per gallon... Do I miss the power? nah, that's what motorcycles are for!
Good review, but i would rather see it on a snowy road without previous tracks. would make it more interesting, but for sure, when you crawled out with the deep snow/mud feature on, that was awesome.
@@williamquemuel7824 Not true at all because with fresh snow, you have alot more of it IN YOUR WAY, holding you back that you have to bulldoze through. Whereas with it matted down, you just go right over it with nothing stopping you. Think if it with a field of flowers or weeds. with them up in your way, youre a lot slower running cause you have to push it all down where if you were follow in someone elses path, youd be able to run through it no problem.
Andrew That's poor comparison. Your comparison makes sense if you add a plow attachment to the vehicle. I live in snow conditions. Ice is harder to grip than snow. Try going up an icy hill versus a snowy hill. Your wheels will start to spin on ice not on snow. That's a fact of science. We talking about grip here not plowing in the context of X-mode. X-mode addresses grip and diverting action to the non-spinning wheels to move the vehicle not to plow through it. Your comparison applies if you add a plow attachment to the vehicle in the snow.
my family have the 2018 Subaru XV , i found that regular X mode have amazing ability comparing to traditional old fashion 4x4 with rear LSD (which i'm an experience off roader, with ford 97 explorer , cherokee XJ, land cruiser and those pick up) , the x mode is just as good as traditional system with out lookers .it would go as far as it ground clearance and tire grip allow it to go.
My brother has Forester XT 2.0 240 hp and its awesome. Can't imagine having less power than 240 in that car, in fact this car could use at least 20-30 more hp.
I'm glad someone else was bothered by this.I hate the way the single exhaust ruins the flow of the rear bumper treatment. I have been wondering how big a pain it would be to cut out that second spot and get it to match the other?
Since the 2019- Forester doesn't have an XT option, it only gets a single exhaust pipe in all trims, so their bumper was designed to have just a single pipe. No more cutout cover on the other side.
Hey Ryan, The road you’re on using the X mode looks like the private road we live on before we plow it. (In the mountains between Leavenworth and Cashmere). And yes we have to use X mode to get up our road and into our garage. We LOVE the X mode.
I just watched the video and we live where we get a TON of snow in Montana. I decided to educate myself on the X Mode, and feel much more comfortable trying to get out without plowing. Thanks so much.
@@gregpearson2863 My wife is from MT. Both of my brother and sister-in-laws drive Outback’s. One of them commutes 100 miles a day round trip. She gave us a secret about using our paddle shifters when trying to slow down without using the brakes. This way you’ll have less of a chance of slipping on the ice. She simply “downshifts” while coming to curves in the road. They buy her a new Outback every 6 years bc during that time she puts 309K miles on her Outback’s. We too live in a very mountainous area of north central WA state and get 4-5, feet of snow every winter. We’re 5 miles from town on a private road that we have to plow and maintain ourselves. When turning off the county road onto our road, we put both our Outback and Forester into Xmode just to get up our road and into our garage. In May we’re going to MT as my in-laws are turning 80 this year so the family has rented a place in Molt for the party. The first night we’ll stay in Missoula with a cousin and drive the other 6 hours the next day. Missoula is our 1/2 way mark.
6:10 he turned the wheels all the way to the right forcing the vehicle to get “stuck”, 6:27 “turns on x-mode deep snow” but turns the wheels all the way to the left, to be honest i’m a big subie fan, but if you’re gonna do an honest test, be true please, any SUV you could of done the same thing, gets stuck on purpose, and get out.
I own a 2015 XT, and although I love the new “Sport” model, without the 2.0 turbo, I’m not buying another Forester. I’m done with it! Taking the Turbo out of the Forester was just plain dumb. And I couldn’t care less about the low sales of the XT in the U.S. Up here in Canada, the XT accounted for 15% of all Forester sales, so Subaru will lose a lot of potential buyers to Mazda now with their updated CX-5 Turbo which has an astounding 310 lb /ft of torque!!!
@@salihalexanderesq.2243 Yes you do. Torque figure is the same with premium or regular. It's the horsepower that decreases with regular gas compared to premium.
Well Mazda has better interior, it drives better (handling, steering, gearbox) and now it has solid engine as well. I love Subaru but their cars are getting so boring and it's not just because of exterior design.
Just purchased the Subaru forester. It’s my second personally but 4th in our family. Subi fan’ - simple gives me piece of mind and it’s super fun to drive. Would enjoy seeing the 2.4 engine with a new hood scoop. Come on Subaru.
Driving the 2022 forester limited and very comfortably handling steep hills, either snowed up or badly slippery and frozen. Not to mention very efficient and fast heating-defrosting-deicing features even by very low temps. Subaru definitely top suv!
1 - XT back! is number 1, I own a 2018 XT and would never trade it for other than that 2 -skid plates, 3- Air or any other adjustable suspension so you could get higher and lower the chassi
Best AWD system Subaru is superb nice review : ) I think I’ll buy my next car based on your amazing reviews this is what car reviews especially AWD videos keep testing them this way no winters just the way you would buy them.
Just bought a 2020 sport for my wife, no regrets. What an amazing machine, drove from Maryland to New Orleans and got 32 mpg, I have a 2019 STI and I love the new gen Forester. It's no slouch at all, I feel it has just enough power but would prefer it had a turbo 2.4 like the outback and a manual but I do understand the CVT has it's place for some owners.
Subaru Is Top Ranking.
The 600 Dislikes are all from Mazda Company Officials.
Great Video
Haaaahaaaa 😂 Mazda... needs some pulling ropes
600 people have their own "SUV" which can't get them out of the snow or any rough spot.
Many of the Mazda are rusted and stil recommended ?!?!
Я думаю, что Форестер -это самый универсальный автомобиль в мире! Боже! Храни мой Форестер!))
No, the dislikes are from the rest of us following behind a damn Subaru driving 10 under the limit. Every one of you turds drives SO DAMN SLOW… every where you go… figure it out!
Just bought myself a 2021 Forester after years of thinking I wanted a Crosstrek. Here we go, adventures!
how is it after 3 weeks?
Same for me. I went in to buy a crosstrek and went home with this beauty. I LOVE my car so much
I just got a 2021 Subaru Crosstrek and absolutely love it I love the safety and security of it
Me too!
@@yucesoyss I've had mine for 2 months and definitely still one of the best cars I've ever owned. Still a fantastic ride
Straight up.
Went & bought one after this review.
No regrets.
You'll regret the CVT transmission in short time.
Kirwan Kars I love the CVT & Subaru make the best one on the market even better then Honda’s.
They don't make the transmissions. CVTs are ALL garbage.
Kirwan Kars I know. It’s made by a company in the UK. Mate, I knew you were just an anti CVT person when you first commented, I was just being nice by responding. I did heaps of research & what I found was the anti-CVT crowd are most that way due to aesthetics. Mechanically speaking they are unique yes, but the hysteria about them is basically bullshit. It’s fine, I’m fine. Thanks for your concern.
Don’t worry, Subaru extended the CVT warranty because they know.
give it an 'XT' option. Bring the turbo Forester back
The XT and manual Subarus have 50/50 split right?
I love my 2018 forester XT with xmode
yes! where is XT?
@@kirwankars8597 Yes, manual transmission Subarus distribute power 50% front / 50% rear.
Absolutely agree. The 2.0 engine without turbo is not enough power
I went from a 16 WRX Limited to a 20 Forester Touring. I have owned the Forester for 8 months and absolutely love it. Its super comfortable and I don't mind the power difference because of it. A simple part like an auto start/stop eliminator will fix any nuisances with owning it. I highly recommend it.
I am in a similar situation as you. Had a 17 WRx prem and traded for a 2022 forester Touring. I have to say I do sometimes miss the power from the WRX though, but the forester is definitely more practical for my lifestyle now.
A wolf in sheep's clothing when it comes to off roading. Foresters are awesome.
Thanks for this video. My 2019 is my third Forester and the best yet (2009 & 2014 previously). Improved fuel economy and better road manners than before. I do go off-road a bit and appreciate that ability, but really, 99% of the time is on pavement at legal speeds. And there's enough HP for that. I wouldn't trade fuel economy for more power.
Bingo. It's perfect.
so you would recommend keeping with the forester line when my 240k mile 03 finally starts to have issues?
Me neither.
You're giving your age away.
Turning off traction control on older forester models when in X-Mode worked just as well as the new X-Mode Mud and Snow. Just a tip for the older forester model drivers.
That's a great tip. Was wondering about that for my '18
I feel like that is the same thing as the second mode of the new X-mode.
Yeah in my Legacy GT you can just turn off traction control which does the same thing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Theres a saying for us STI owners, "when in doubt, throttle out" or that's just me n my STI. I also own a 09 fxt and same thing floor it with TC off.
You don't want to turn off the traction control in the snow. You want to turn it off in mud and in sand. In deep snow, turning off the traction control will simply make your spinning tires turn the snow under them into ice (by compacting the snow under them), causing you to get stuck even worse. If you lived in a snowy area, you'd know. Snow/ice conditions require gentle starts with maximum traction and little torque.
Just bought a 2020 Forester - we LOVE it. This video is truly amazing. Nice work, sir.
We love the adaptive cruise control. Makes long drives much easier, low stress and safer. Just lock on to a car doing a reasonable speed and let them drive for you. It will hold a safe following distance - and it brakes before you even notice the cars in front are slowing quickly
I agree! I purchased a 2021 Outback Onyx XT and the adaptive cruise control is great, especially for long distance interstate driving. What I love about it is that you can change your following distance (relative to your speed) with the push of a button. I usually have it a couple extra car lengths back just for safety's sake.
I now tend to commute to work with minimal pedaling. I just use the cruise, change the speed increments, and just let Forester do the rest. I find it more fuel efficient too.
Unless I run into red lights or speed bumps as the first vehicle, I can get by without touching the accelerator or brakes.
The adaptive thing drove my husband crazy. He made me figure out how to disable!
I beg to differ, for me the adaptive cruise brakes too late and too close, since normally you would brake when you see brake lights but the subaru is looking at the car speed to match it, so its delayed
Skid plates to protect the oil pan and differentials plus all-terrain tires or winter tires would complete this Forester.
They are available from the dealer
I believe the STI has the differential. So why not just use it in the other models
All subarus have differentials 3 to be exact just the STI has control of the center diff.
@Bill H there were no OEM skid plates on the 2014 Foresters.
@@wanglee21 he's talking about skid plates that protect the differential, not the differential itself. It has a differential already.
Exactly the Forester review I've been waiting for. Appreciate the great content, thank you!
This is my car and I'm in LOVE with it. I agree it could use a tad bit more horsepower though.
I have a 2020 Forester Sport, and still loving it so far since getting it in June. I had a 2015 that didn't have X-mode, which is one of the reasons I wanted to upgrade.
Yes maybe 50 more
Have you had any problems with it? I really want this😍
Just purchased one of these after trading in a 2016 Crosstrek. This is my first automatic, but I'm cautiously optimistic. This review was one of the things that convinced me. Thanks.
One of best videos about Subaru Forester 2019 X-Mode, I suppose!
Have it and like it very much from December, 2018.
Thank you for such a great explanation and demonstration of the X-Mode system! I bought a 2019 Subaru Forester back in the spring, and with New England winter weather fast approaching, I wanted to be sure I understood how to best utilize this feature. I watched a couple of other videos which were okay, but yours really made it clear! I feel much more confident about it now.
I'm a Subaru Outback user in Japan. I was very impressed with your video‼️
X-MODE is excellent‼️
Do you have snow in Japan?
@@whatever_it_takes6691just stumbled across this comment years after 😊… Japan has a rich alpine ski culture. The snow they get is astounding. It’s as if it falls from the ski AND grows up from the ground. It’s on my ski bucket list
We loved the stance of the Forrester...but the main reason we chose the Outback was because of the available 3.6r engine. For a vehicle thats marketed for all terrain capability, it should have a more powerful engine option for buyers. And our Outback still gets great gas mileage so we’re glad we chose to go with the extra power. But I loved the more SUV style feel of driving the Forrester.
Based on all the great reviews you've shown, I bought a 2019 Forester Touring last August. I love it! I was hoping for snow to test the X mode, but only got a tiny bit in the Philly area last winter. Can't wait until this winter!
After watching countless videos (& also test driving) different makes and models, I have watched all of your videos on the Subaru Forester. I test drove one and fell in love with it. I am now driving a 2021 Forester Sport. What an amazing vehicle. I am in love. Thank you for all your thorough videos on the new Forester. These videos convinced me, and I have zero regrets. Fantastic reviewer.
Good review. It’s all about the tyres though folks. A good set of winter tyres will make a HUGE difference to the performance on snow and mud.
I bought a forester 2019 and comparing with another of 2014, with the same motor potency, it is a more refined product with various small details solved. Actually a very good product, with a correct price!
Just picked up one of these yesterday for my wife. She loves it. It really is a nice car. I'll probably still get some snow tires for the winter.
That's amazing that extra setting for mud and snow is amazing I have an old 2003 outback and it goes places people can't believe and it has to do with the all-wheel drive even on regular tires it's just insane I really like this version of the Forester
We've only had our 2022 Forester Premium for a week. But, love it! We live in central Texas near Austin. So, we don't get the snow. But, we do see a snow/ice storm about once a year. The car has a very comfortable ride with an excellent turning radius. I can't wait to take it on one of our trips and possibly get into some off road/weather conditions. The only thing I would have wanted, would be more horsepower. I traded in a 2005 Saturn Vue with front wheel drive and a 250 hp Honda engine. Excellent car. With that said, my wife and I did a lot research on SUV's especially Subaru...and here we are.
I have the 2019 forester touring! I love this car!! It does need more horsepower.. don’t get me wrong in sport mode it’s pretty fast but just a bump in horsepower would be nice never the less it’s just amazing!
Im a sales woman at Subaru in California and this is very helpful for my customers and myself! I love the sport and I plan on buying one myself. It has hill decent control into the XMode should it should slow itself but it ,of course, doesnt detect tall rocks haha im in love with this car more than my BMW
I currently have a 2016 Outback 3.6R, and I love it! When I finally decide to get a new car, the Forester will have likely continued on its path of evolution to become even better than it is now. Hopefully, that evolution will include MORE horsepower in an efficient drivetrain package. When that ‘new car need’ arrives, I will be all over it!!
I want to see a “trail” model of the Outback, Forester and Crosstrek.
1) remove the CVT.
2) add a low range for better crawl ratio.
3) lifted 2” with 2” larger tires.
4) full skids underneath.
5) stronger running gear.
If this were achieved Subaru would not keep up with the demand.
mike smiley i’d buy that
Keep the cvt...
theyre comming out with wilderness outbacks and foresters that come from the factory with a lift and more aggressive wheels, and the crosstrek is getting the 2.5 in the top trim
I did that to my 2016 Ouback 3.6r. LP Aventure lift and the biggest widest tires that would fit in the wheel well. It's better on the beach than my last three jeeps but not as good in dirt as my 2005XT with a real tranny. The computer cuts power too soon so it won't climb embankments like my 2005 did.
@San Diago yet they are paying over 60K for an unreliable jeep? Makes no sense.
If that was impressed to you, just imagine what's going on with snow tires!
imagine even more with chains!!! :P
Tank track conversion.
I have Blizzak WS90 non studded winter Snow tires.
@@kimberlywentworth9160 I have the Glizzy X420’s XL all terrain
Bring back the XT :)
not enough sales on the XT
They need to bring back the XT (turbo) maybe in that Subaru WRX blue too.
Add a niche trim the Sport+ with both skid plates (use metal this time!) AND the XT engine. This would be a real SPORT level to this Forester, much more than just some orange trim! Initially, use a healthy discount to spur sales!!
2018 XT absolutely rules.Great automobile.
@@JoseVargas-bs8gx No, the XT was made in Japan and such was only available in limited numbers. I had to hunt for mine, and drive 2 hours south to the only dealership with one. You can only get sales on what you have available.
Subaru just wants all their north american cars made in north america for more money. Another factor could be saving the FADIT blocks for Subaru's new 3 row soccer mom car.
Subarus are amazing in the snow - love seeing them in comparison tests with their "competition." I was hopelessly stuck in 9+ inches of snow on a Michigan seasonal road until I engaged X-Mode and stepped on it. It was just like in this video except I needed to go up a slight incline. I will always own a Subaru.
I have the 2017 Impreza Sport and there have been a number of times this winter when I got home and said to myself "No other car would've made it through that." Really impressed with what I've seen from this new Forester though.
I can relate, this has been a really bad winter in Michigan. Living in Northern Michigan has always been a challenge concerning driving. Our 2015 Outback has had no issues dealing with anything. We run Michelin all season progressive pattern tires that hands down are the best tires I have ever owned on any vehicle. Snow tires are NOT needed on this vehicle.
I still have a 2003 and a newer one. Both are great.😊
I second all the XT comments. Searched for my '18 XT after hearing of them axing it for '19. Got the last one on the East coast in Touring trim and we love it. I'd like to see Subaru develop a plan to financially be able to have an XT option again (I know their sales weren't good hence the discontinuation) with front, mid and diff skid plates, as well as a higher mounted intake in the engine bay and possible relocation of the turbo from the front bottom of the engine to somewhere a little more safe.
I just got my 2023 crosstrek into 12 inches of snow. Xmode did terrific job when I got stuck. The regular mode was more than enough for driving in the 12 inches deep snow
I have a 2020 Subaru Forester Sport and love it. It’s my first Subaru and I am extremely happy with it. I have not used the XMode in snow yet but it works great on knarly old mountain roads. Cheers!
I love how the problem is, there is no problem. 🤣
Good job Subaru!
I finally know the applications to use Dual X-Mode! This will be my first winter with my 19 Sport and this video cleared up all the questions I had on when/how to use X-Mode! Also, very impressive!
Great video! I just bought a 2021 Forester, however, we don't get much snow in Southern California. Nonetheless, it's good to see how it performs in a realistic snow situation, for when we go to the mountains this winter. Makes me feel more much more comfortable. Thanks again for producing this video.
you got snow now lol
@@uncledamfee2347hahahaha love this comment
I Just Bought 2024 Subaru Crosstrek Wilderness, and I'm Loving it. 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
Just bought a 2023 Forester Wilderness Edition and LOVE it 💞
Imagine what you could do with real snow tires...
True, but most people in the U.S. don't live in areas that need dedicated WINTER (not snow) tires. It would just be a waste of money and comfort. Occasional snow storms don't justify driving 2.9 months out of the 3 that are wintery on loud tires with less dry performance that wear out faster and cost more. Now if you live in the mountains or the snow belt, sure, you should have winter tires. Otherwise, good all-seasons are all you need.
@@afcgeo882 Winter tires aren't just for snowy areas. They improve handling and traction on cold road surfaces, which makes it safer to drive. All-seasons suck in Chicago winters.
@@afcgeo882 us canadians need snow tires.
@@shmoaeelshmoaeel8319 there's no such thing as "snow" tires. There are winter tires.
@@afcgeo882 okay which are used for snowy area's like where i live?
Thanks to your reviews I solidified my decision and got myself the 2019 Subaru Forester and I absolutely love it!
Here are the OEM skid plates ua-cam.com/video/ascez_kzOYk/v-deo.html
They should bring back the turbo engine. I agree that it is more enjoyable with more zip to it. If they concern about sales, put it in touring line.
Subaru made it clear that since only 5% of all Forester owners bought the XT they didn’t feel compelled to carry it forward and as a cost saving measure it made sense to them.
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I just purchased a 2021 forester limited & absolutely love it! Can't wait to get my husband one as well! We recently went up north on a trip to Sacramento new-year weekend and it had been raining heavily there's a stretch of road called grapevine that gets icy ...was definitely nervous going thru there and the car had an icon that lit up that looked like a snowflake..letting us know it detected snow. The car handled amazing! Made to Sacramento...only bad thing while on our trip we were on freeway and something hit my windshield and cracked it! Thankfully I purchased the windshield warranty. It was 100% covered, invoice showed $1550 price to replace. Service has been outstanding!
this was one of the videos that lead me to the decision on buying the 2020 forester sport with the exact same color im at 38k miles now after 3 years of driving. i absolutely love it . I hope they come out with a more powerful powertrain either the 2.4turbo or a hybrid with 200+hp
I watched every review on the new Subaru Forester, and this one pushed me over the edge and I bought one. I've driven it to many places and it's amazing to drive, I love this vehicle more then I thought I would. Also the fuel economy is amazing. Subaru hit their mark. Their AWD system is no joke. And it's so comfortable. Honestly feel so lucky to have this car. :)
I am right at the edge right now!
@@armaniusmaximus i dont think you will regret, getting one. Its really made for people that are practical in execution, also there is alot of space, so it makes for a great road trip vehicle.
WHAT A GORGEOUS LOOKING FORESTER
not the tail lights. the tail lights are ugly it's like a claw but if someone did a wrap of a crab it would be funny lol
Great video !! I was on the fence between he outback Onyx and the forester sport and you helped me make up my mind. I appreciate it
How’s your experience been?
Just bought a '23 Forester Sport last week and totally love it! Now I love it even more after seeing this!!
Finally, an actual review about snow traction. I went through numerous videos where snow performance is not even mentioned once.
I’ve had 4 foresters, never needed x mode. Subaru’s r the best tracking car in the snow. Period ...funny I live in the cascades
Should add 50 more HP 😜
Should have kept the turbo in it
Can get a BMW x1 at that price point
@@DUNGSTA bmw x1? no thanks!
@@nabatron21 it was an option, no one bought it
@@JoseVargas-bs8gx people bought them. But not the right people. You can say that about every car. People will always buy the base of everything civic, camry, BMW etc. No one ever buys the premium of that specific vehicle
NEVER stop moving when going through deeper snow. Momentum is your friend when it comes to snow. Once you have a vehicle moving keep it moving. That goes with ANY vehicle.
Thank you for this video. I just traded my 2022 Forester Touring for a 2023 Forester Wilderness. The seats are much more comfortable, the ride is smoother and quieter, and it handles better. Both vehicles did well in Snow/Dirt Mode. I have yet to feel the need for Deep Snow/Dirt Mode. I doubt that I will need Winter tires.
Love Subaru! I was a Nissan guy for 12 years + Got my first 2018 Impreza Sport! And absolutely love it! 💖
@@Traumatree LMAO... THANK YOU... YES, I have seen the Light... 😀💡
add a Turbo too the forester and a Manual 6 , maybe some wider tires as well please!
The manual means no eyesight. The cvt with eyesight are perfect.
Manual would mean you cant crawl slowly anymore..so half of the offroad capability would be lost
Loved this video, though I'm going to be controversial and say that the car doesn't need the additional Horsepower. It gets amazing gas mileage and was able to pull that CX-9 to safety just fine. With that, I'm confident in saying Sport>XT!
I drove one recently and am thinking of buying one. And I agree. It’s gets up to 60 fast enough, launches hard and quick letting you get out in traffic easily. And that awesome gas mileage. And I am looking at a 2013 model. So even less power.
Its a great vehicle but definitely needs a turbo. He’s right about the added comfort of the new models. This will be my first winter testing it out in the snow.
Deep snow is a gimmick. Just turn off traction and floor it lol works every time in my outback. I rarely use x mode off road. Regular mode works just fine. I don’t get why regular x mode cuts power if it can’t find traction.
My Wife and I just test drive a 2019 Forester, absolutely love it, buying tomorrow!! As for the "lack" of power, this car has PLENTY of it!!!!👍👍👍
You had me until the slurp of the espresso 🤣.. Just kidding great video! Just signed the papers to buy a 2019 sport and this video definitely helped ease my mind about the purchase.. Can't wait to go and try to get stuck 😁👍
Got my 2020 on the way !!!
Definitely a bit more power. Otherwise it’s great
I would love to see videos like this on vehicles like the new RAV4 (Ideally adventure or one with multi-drive mode select), CR-V, and other similar AWD crossovers.
Used to have a Sonata here in Minnesota and would absolutely have to shovel to get the car out of the parking lot. I got a 2020 Forester and love that I can just drive out now matter what now. Now I can just clear the snow when I get home!
I am a 66 year old female and just moved to Utah. I sold my 2012 Toyota Camry (great in So. Cal, but not a "snow car") and chose a 2022 Forester. I am nervous for the snowy conditions that happen here, but this video made me so much less concerned...thank you! I just hit "subscribe!"
Bring the turbo back!!! This is not a hard concept and thousands have expressed this. If only Subaru would listen...
4 percent bought it tho.
Alan Druien #marketing, lack of 6MT option... no one says it needs to be mass produced. Just make it available, even if it’s a special order.
Subaru made it clear that since only 5% of all Forester owners bought the XT they didn’t feel compelled to carry it forward and as a cost saving measure it made sense to them.
Thousands of people are begging for the turbo! (none of them will ever purchase it)
@@brianleggiero the MT requires a different AWD system. Not making it and not having the assembly lines for it saves LOTS of money. Same for the turbo engine.
I bought the 2018 manual transmission. It doesn't need x-mode. The engine doesn't cut power unless it's over rev'd.
No more manual tranny unfortunately
@@motormusique gosh, don't I know. 😐
How you like the manual forester? I ordered one and the dealers was dicking around with delivery date so I cancelled my order.
@@tonychau1983 Hey Tony, I have a 2010 forester outdoor with the manual transmission. Took me a while to locate one and I had to travel for it. But I love it!
I bought it because I had 3 imprezas prior to the forester, and I needed more cargo space. I see it as basically a lifted impreza because it shared most of the same components as the imp' during these model years.
My foz has the Vehicle Dynamics Control which is the only downside. Yaw detectors in the ecu cut power to the wheels when it senses me drifting.
So I really cant play around in the snow anymore unless I pull the ABS fuse under the hood.
Ultimately though, it is my swiss army knife vehicle. I can do all my offloading/fishing/camping/rally stuff no problems. Great car
@@kirkblackadar7299 maybe ill look into a used one later on I just can't see myself owning another cvt
Bring back the 2.5 XT :)
Yep
2.0s are pretty quick mate
Nah, they need to drop in the new turbo config they are using in the Ascent.
Steven Wort bring STI to us 😎 better no ?
@@tadpoppin4817 On the highway maybe but slip into a deep mudhole, and you qickly see how the old transmission was superior.
I bought my first Subaru Forester. I really like it. From a Mercedes Benz GLE.
I bought a used 2010 forester a few years back...still have it...about 2 weeks after getting it...I went back home for a vacation which is Ohio to The STL...which is a little over 350 miles...
You know when going on vacations you always set aside X amount of monies for gas...Well I set aside $200 just for this trip...I WAS AMAZED THAT I ONLY SPENT $80 FOR MY ROUND TRIP...
So this coming October I'll be trading my baby in for a newer Forester...Hopefully for this one...And being I was raised by a mechanic and the only car that was good enough was a Chevy...or A Cadillac...lol
But...I'm very very impressed with Subaru and feel just as safe...
Thank You Subaru 🚙 💕💕💕
We've had 3 WRX's, a Crosstrek and now a 2.5 Outback... I LOVED the WRX's for the power and torque. My wife was getting too many tickets, so we got a Crosstrek... After 90K miles, we just bought an Outback and yeah, its not crazy power, but hey, we don't tow with it and it does "fine" on grades and passing... Turbo power means lower MPG and premium fuel- In California that is $4 per gallon... Do I miss the power? nah, that's what motorcycles are for!
Love it! Door gets tossed open right into the snow/ice combo ripping the paint right off the car. Awesome!
Good review, but i would rather see it on a snowy road without previous tracks. would make it more interesting, but for sure, when you crawled out with the deep snow/mud feature on, that was awesome.
Having previous tracks means compact snow and ice which means less grip than just snow alone.
@@williamquemuel7824 Not true at all because with fresh snow, you have alot more of it IN YOUR WAY, holding you back that you have to bulldoze through. Whereas with it matted down, you just go right over it with nothing stopping you. Think if it with a field of flowers or weeds. with them up in your way, youre a lot slower running cause you have to push it all down where if you were follow in someone elses path, youd be able to run through it no problem.
Andrew That's poor comparison. Your comparison makes sense if you add a plow attachment to the vehicle. I live in snow conditions. Ice is harder to grip than snow. Try going up an icy hill versus a snowy hill. Your wheels will start to spin on ice not on snow. That's a fact of science. We talking about grip here not plowing in the context of X-mode. X-mode addresses grip and diverting action to the non-spinning wheels to move the vehicle not to plow through it. Your comparison applies if you add a plow attachment to the vehicle in the snow.
Andrew Here is something that addresses deep snow. ua-cam.com/video/P76LlUy4CCQ/v-deo.html. ua-cam.com/video/-sNETX39UIA/v-deo.html
I just got the 2019 Forester Limited. One recommendation I would make would be I wish they had larger side mirrors.
my family have the 2018 Subaru XV , i found that regular X mode have amazing ability comparing to traditional old fashion 4x4 with rear LSD (which i'm an experience off roader, with ford 97 explorer , cherokee XJ, land cruiser and those pick up) , the x mode is just as good as traditional system with out lookers .it would go as far as it ground clearance and tire grip allow it to go.
Forester STI!!!! With all the X Modes
Perfect review. My wife was leaning towards the CX-9 before this video 🤣
The CX9 performs like pretty much any other crossover with AWD. Subaru has the best AWD system in the world.
My brother has Forester XT 2.0 240 hp and its awesome. Can't imagine having less power than 240 in that car, in fact this car could use at least 20-30 more hp.
I bought the New Forester 2020 and is amazing and literally crawls walls. Great video!!!
*figuratively.
I have a 2020 Forster Sport and we love it. We also have a 2016 Forester Premium, so we are kinda bias. But I would recommend the Forester!!
A more powerful engine, and a manual transmission.
They won't due to the mpg, they'll be all electric soon
As per Subaru, you're asking for the two options they sold the least of. So no.
@Bobbo Morgan exactly with a pair of dedicated winter tires, he would be flying in that snow!
@TooBurst Because it's fun. A much more engaging experience. More connected to the car.
Jeffrey Williams Subaru sells tons of manuals here in Colorado.. like half the lot is manual.
Bring back the turbo and duel exhaust outlets. The single exhaust with the blank spot on the left looks lame!
I'm glad someone else was bothered by this.I hate the way the single exhaust ruins the flow of the rear bumper treatment. I have been wondering how big a pain it would be to cut out that second spot and get it to match the other?
@@carverboycarverboy2097 I know, sadly that alone makes me not like the refresh..:(
@@michaelmaione4684 it's not a refresh, it's an all new model
Since the 2019- Forester doesn't have an XT option, it only gets a single exhaust pipe in all trims, so their bumper was designed to have just a single pipe. No more cutout cover on the other side.
@@michaelmaione4684 all-new model on a new platform.
Hi - just bought a 2019 Forrester and am glad I watched this video - loved that tow assist - thanks!
I work at Subaru of Gwinnett and I love these videos! Thank you for making this type of content to show to my new Subaru owners :)
Hey Ryan,
The road you’re on using the X mode looks like the private road we live on before we plow it. (In the mountains between Leavenworth and Cashmere). And yes we have to use X mode to get up our road and into our garage. We LOVE the X mode.
I just watched the video and we live where we get a TON of snow in Montana. I decided to educate myself on the X Mode, and feel much more comfortable trying to get out without plowing. Thanks so much.
@@gregpearson2863 My wife is from MT.
Both of my brother and sister-in-laws drive Outback’s.
One of them commutes 100 miles a day round trip. She gave us a secret about using our paddle shifters when trying to slow down without using the brakes.
This way you’ll have less of a chance of slipping on the ice. She simply “downshifts” while coming to curves in the road.
They buy her a new Outback every 6 years bc during that time she puts 309K miles on her Outback’s.
We too live in a very mountainous area of north central WA state and get 4-5, feet of snow every winter.
We’re 5 miles from town on a private road that we have to plow and maintain ourselves.
When turning off the county road onto our road, we put both our Outback and Forester into Xmode just to get up our road and into our garage.
In May we’re going to MT as my in-laws are turning 80 this year so the family has rented a place in Molt for the party.
The first night we’ll stay in Missoula with a cousin and drive the other 6 hours the next day.
Missoula is our 1/2 way mark.
They should add more ground clearance and more HP :)
Awesome just purchased one today
Bring back the XT (with the hood scoop of course !)
also bring back the hydrolic hood to make it looks more luxurioux
@@davidmorissette4295 hydraulic hood lifts and hood scoops are a thing of the past due to "pedestrian safety"
This is the video that solidified my choice in getting this car! You guys need more subs! Such well done video.
Thank you for the real review. We ordered 2022 yesterday. It will be ready in 2 months.
Thank you for this great demonstration!
6:10 he turned the wheels all the way to the right forcing the vehicle to get “stuck”, 6:27 “turns on x-mode deep snow” but turns the wheels all the way to the left, to be honest i’m a big subie fan, but if you’re gonna do an honest test, be true please, any SUV you could of done the same thing, gets stuck on purpose, and get out.
That was the first thing I noticed too
I own a 2015 XT, and although I love the new “Sport” model, without the 2.0 turbo, I’m not buying another Forester. I’m done with it! Taking the Turbo out of the Forester was just plain dumb. And I couldn’t care less about the low sales of the XT in the U.S. Up here in Canada, the XT accounted for 15% of all Forester sales, so Subaru will lose a lot of potential buyers to Mazda now with their updated CX-5 Turbo which has an astounding 310 lb /ft of torque!!!
You don't get that torque without premium gas.
@@salihalexanderesq.2243 Yes you do. Torque figure is the same with premium or regular. It's the horsepower that decreases with regular gas compared to premium.
Well Mazda has better interior, it drives better (handling, steering, gearbox) and now it has solid engine as well. I love Subaru but their cars are getting so boring and it's not just because of exterior design.
Yeah it does but that's why is important to offer something for everyone. How sluggish Forester is, it is not wonder that it gets good mpg.
And even then we will have to sacrifice range and convenience :D
Just purchased the Subaru forester. It’s my second personally but 4th in our family. Subi fan’ - simple gives me piece of mind and it’s super fun to drive. Would enjoy seeing the 2.4 engine with a new hood scoop. Come on Subaru.
Driving the 2022 forester limited and very comfortably handling steep hills, either snowed up or badly slippery and frozen.
Not to mention very efficient and fast heating-defrosting-deicing features even by very low temps. Subaru definitely top suv!
1 - XT back! is number 1, I own a 2018 XT and would never trade it for other than that
2 -skid plates,
3- Air or any other adjustable suspension so you could get higher and lower the chassi
I can live with no turbo, but I wish they will bring back the dual exhaust pipes...
Across the entire Subaru lineup. Ya know... Symmetry
Very true I miss that symmetry !!
Oh yea! Miss the dual exhaust my wife’s 2010 Forester had. Was a sweet look.
Even in the elevated cities where its most needed?
Oh yeah I really miss replacing dual catalytic converters because my 2012 forester ate oil.
Subaru should have skid plate s for all models
Best AWD system Subaru is superb nice review : ) I think I’ll buy my next car based on your amazing reviews this is what car reviews especially AWD videos keep testing them this way no winters just the way you would buy them.
Just bought a 2020 sport for my wife, no regrets. What an amazing machine, drove from Maryland to New Orleans and got 32 mpg, I have a 2019 STI and I love the new gen Forester. It's no slouch at all, I feel it has just enough power but would prefer it had a turbo 2.4 like the outback and a manual but I do understand the CVT has it's place for some owners.