@@SpicyPlur That is my own opposition to it as well. The question becomes, who do you trust less? The government that only wants you for your taxes, your vote, and your conscription, or a woman that might have betrayed you and only wants you for your money, and your assets.
@@SpicyPlur why not? They do all types of other stuff like birth certificate and social. Also, why would they dna test you? You gave birth to the kid, I already know it's yours.
If they know it’s the father you shouldn’t have a problem. In the uk a few years ago there were several cases of couples having a baby splitting. The mother would then go for child support but when father went to court having the mum saying no he isn’t the father
@@celestek.2395 just because a woman is "higher class" doesn't mean shit. Even "moral, quality" women cheat. There's zero way to predict what woman will or won't cheat.
As a woman, I think that a paternity test before signing a birth certificate is fair. And a woman who lies should stand trial for fraud. Men have been in prison for unpaid child support, while the child is not theirs.
In France it’s *illegal* for a father to dna test their own child. If you do it it’s a year in jail and a large fine. The government “wants to keep families together”
@@dearthditch is that only if they're already married, though? I mean, I have mixed feelings if that's the case. Because then it's about doing what's right for the child. I can also see the man's point of view if he later found out there was infidelity, tho. But if you're weighing doing what's best for the innocent child or what's best for the man, I'm always siding with the child at that point. So I don't necessarily think they got that wrong in this case, but jail time is a bit harsh. 🤷♀️
@@nturavrgchick6055I completely disagree. Men aren’t slaves. The woman who cheated on her husband is responsible for the child 100%. The state has no right to enslave an innocent man. If you cared about the child (which you clearly don’t), then you’d not want the child around an enraged cheated on husband. If I were French and it happened to me, I’d just move to another country. Let her deal with her own mistakes.
you're full of it...trying to spread the blame onto men because the women cheat...trying to convince men that it's their fault a woman cheats?...men do take accountability...the courts demand it
Scope creep. That's a lot of valuable data to just stop at simple paternity tests. Imagine medical insurance companies getting fully screened data on every baby (and by proxy, partially on the parents) or police/FBI etc buying up genomes for their cross referencing database.
So who is going to pay for every single birth to be tested. The option is currently available to anyone who WANTS it. A man can refuse to sign a certificate if he wants to.
i was almost fooled once. she let me come to the hospital, had me taking pictures, had my mom over and shit. Then she was like yea you don't need no test I know he's yours. I was like Nope here comes the test and yep i wasn't the father!
Glad you followed through on the test. Too many men fold and deal with the anxiety. ESPECIALLY if you are not married, GET A TEST. She can be mad. This is bigger than that, and far more important.
Mine had a question..just in general, because his buddies warned him...until she as born about 4" longer than any baby girl they had seen. (He is 6'6") My God...and then they saw him and they all laughed. No real question after that.
I don't understand the resistance to this. This is 100% logical and fair. BTW, notice how in the court room clip the unfaithful woman shakes her head, as if the DNA test is wrong. "I don't know how I could have possibly got pregnant with some other man's baby!" Riiiiight.
Obviously anyone fighting this is riding the carousel of Johnson’s from sea to shiny sea. If I was dating a woman and it came up that she was against this, I’d know she would be cheating on me. So I’d ask her for a discount on her nightly rates.
Then there's my father who skipped out on his first 2 kids (even changed his SS number to avoid paying child support) and abandoned my brother and me for 5 years, leaving us in near poverty. He was seriously "mistreated."
Yep my brother was one and they lived together and they split after the baby was born and he bought everything for the baby and had the baby every week and they were going to court for child support than one day in court she says he is not the father so my brother had to take test and sure enough he wasn’t but that BS broke his heart
@@benu_bird So because your father did that, men who aren't the father should be tricked and lied to into staying? If thats not the conclusion then idk what your point is.
I told my husband that if we are blessed with a baby and he wants a DNA test done by all means I have NO problems with that. I am 100% loyal to my husband and if it makes HIS mind be put at ease I would do it. I do NOT see a problem with doing DNA test at birth!
My kids look like me. They’re both mine. But for medical reasons we had to do DNA testing as I’m white and my wife is Asian. Unsurprisingly they’re both my kids.
Percentage from total population might be actually smaller - those who tested had serious suspicions about faithfulness of their woman, probably because they were acting suspicious or already betrayed the trust, so it might be skewered towards higher negative results. So - absolute numbers will be higher, percentage might be both ways, but I would bet lower.
@@Eshelionthat doesn't make Rational logical sense. It's 33% out of 100% of men who get tested for their children's paternity Now, there are men that have not questioned the validity of their children being there's by getting a blood test. If they did it would go up not down
@@hypergodbeingtrontronhyper3625that's not how it works. People not testing have no issues with paternity, and in all likelihood are legitimate fathers. So if all the legitimate fathers with no suspicions tested it would drive the percentage down not up. But they don't test, so it's a skewed statistic. The correct way to state this is: 33% of men who suspect they are not the father are correct. Not: 33% of all men are not the legitimate father to their child. You're mixing the two up.
I’ve never understood why people get caught cheating and are upset with the 3rd party rather than their significant other. That guy that caught them in the car is an example of a logical man.
Depends on if you know the guy beforehand. If it's just some rando that you never met before, then yeah he probably didn't know about you either. If she's banging somebody who knows you, or even worse someone who was a friend or family member, then that person has it coming.
Not for the state. The state makes money off the child support men pay. If men get off the hook, the state is out money, and that's all they really care about.
So I once had a woman many years ago try to baby trap me. She sued me and demanded a test. Her actual live in boyfriend had the gall to call me and demand that I “step up”. You can guess what I told him. My lawyer told them;”Sure no problem. But we are suing for custody.” Suddenly she dropped the effort.
The most benefits will go to the child, who will not grow up without PROPER knowledge of who the parent is. Its not fair for a child to live a lie. I fully support this!
As a single mother, of now 2 adults children I was insistent that paternity test be done at Birth because the fact is and I explained the only person who knows for a fact the child is theirs is the mother! In my lifetime the only women I have seen it get lividly upset when a paternity test was requested are people who don't actually know for a fact who the father of their child is. But it also goes the other way, when a man is saying the baby is not his and he is refusing to take a paternity test, it is most likely because he knows the babies is his. It should have been FRAUD decades ago for someone to collect child support in money from someone who was deceived into thinking the child was theirs.
Idk. I know for a fact both my kids are my husband's. But it would hurt my feelings if he asked for a DNA test. Cause that implies he doesn't trust me. With that being said, if it's mandatory for everyone then go for it. I got nothing to hide.
Yeah, I'm all for a law like this, but here's the deal for the man - because they are also responsible in this situation. If they sign that BC willingly, without a test, and I'm mostly talking about when they aren't married to the mother, don't turn around and demand a test after you've been that child's father for 5 or 10 years. At that point, they are that child's father, blood or not, and they need to keep that job title for the rest of their lives, for that child's sake alone. That's just how I feel about that. That's the same reason a judge in most states won't just let the guy off the hook if they're on that BC. Especially after years have gone by. Because that means they agreed to be listed as the father when it was born, meaning they took legal responsibility for supporting that child as it's parent. And a woman can't list them as the father on a BC unless they are present and agree to it. If they aren't present, no one is listed as the father. So both parties have a responsibility when it comes to the birth certificate. So men, don't sign it if you aren't sure, or until you get that paternity test. Or at the very least, don't allow yourself to be listed as the dad without fully understanding what it means and the responsibility it brings. Because it's not always about blood or about you. At a certain point, it becomes solely about that child in the eyes of the law. As it should.
@@nturavrgchick6055I don't agree cause some men are tricked and after 5 years,they just find out...the man should get every cent back on spending on that child thatcis not his
@@nturavrgchick6055 What a way to agree to the status quo of paternity fraud. I'm the opposite. Lets change the scenario a little bit a husband is cheated on after having a legitimate child by a woman who later becomes adulterous having relations with other men and the husband signs the birth certificate thinking for all intents and purposes that child is his. Years go by and the truth is learned, should the husband still be on the hook for a woman's deceit? By your logic yes. That is some real equality there 🤨
Totally agree. Not only does the father need to know, the child needs to. Especially if there are any medical issues done the line. If there's nothing to hide, then do the test. Simple!
Exactly! Imagine having the wrong family medical history because of this type of thing. So many things we can screen for but they just wouldn't know to do it. Wild.
@@kiminieabli2802 For unmarried people yes. Presumptive laws, in some states should be changed, for example, California when parents are married, even if the 3 adults involved ALL say that the husband is not the father of a child, it doesn't matter. Even if a DNA test proves otherwise, the husband is held responsible.........For life. Not such a good idea and needs changed. But mandatory, No
The funny part to me is HOW common this is and they KNOW the likelihood of themselves commiting infidelity, but they act like we're crazy and unfair for wanting a TEST. 🤦♂️
I loved the old Maury show where a woman would bring in a group of 4 or 5 men and NONE of them are the father. Then later she'd show up with another group of men to be tested 🤣
I agree with this move! Too many women take advantage of one or more of the men they sleep with. This needs to stop! Criminal offense should be mandatory!
If you went back in time with paternity tests and told a king or monarch that you could 100% prove if his heirs were his or not, they would give you literally anything you want.
@JF-cd5hc Overdue? Absolutely. But it shouldn't be federal. Should be a state mandated thing that is included with your birth certificate. Giving the Fed control of anything more than the most basic things (like utilities, roads, water, ect.) Is a recipe for disaster.
Can I just give kudos to my home state of Tennessee. Mandatory DNA testing at birth, potential attempted fraud charges and the potential 💀🪦 penalty for convicted child predators????? Lock it in UT. Lock that shyt in It’s about damn time
I totally agree with this new law. Ive seen so many men absolutely broken cuz they found out that theyre pride and joy wasnt theirs. Its sad. Men have rights too. And they deserve their paternity rights. As a mother i 100,000% agree with this.
Every child deserves to know who their father is. Every child! I am 100% behind any mandatory paternity test prior to birth certificate being signed. I am also 100% behind maternity fraud prosecution for mothers who have had another man’s child and yet took Money from a man for years, whether they were together or separated or divorced, making that man’s life very difficult to live financially. It’s heartbreaking to know the devastation that is done to the father who fell in love with the child, raised it to the best of their ability only to find out they were not their child. It’s heartbreaking for the child to have always thought the man that loved them invested thereand care into their raising is not their father the devastation it causes to a child is in measurable. These laws would preempt this type of tragedy.
It has nothing to do with trust. It's just the right thing to do at every birth. It happens to often to not do something about this. If any woman is against this then she's the reason it's needed.
It has everything to do with trust. Mandating it this way means you trust the government and hospital with extremely sensitive information. You trust them not to turn around and make it a $20,000 test so gov can make more $$ off of you.
Child support is a percentage calculated from the gross monthly income and then stolen from the net amount of his check, real support exceeds 45 % of a paycheck
I always think it is telling that when women have a possibility that more than one person could have fathered their child they are always sure it's the one with assets and a steady job who is the father. They never believe it's the unemployed guy that hasn't bothered to call in several months
they took over half my check, even after I had full custody for a year... She didnt pay for a decade... never had her license taken or jail time for failure to support...
It's because it's all ghetto either baby mama drama or welfare requirements 🥴 if a man wants it okay, but us healthy couples don't need to be dragged into a ghetto tale. Come back with a warrent 😂
I guess no one remembers that Maury was on for YEARS with You are not the father episodes. 99.9% of all the men on there were not the fathers. It should be tested before signing the birth certificate.
I suppose you are the ONLY person not completely aware that those shows were scripted. And to admit that you watched that TRASH for years? Pure brain rot
I support this 100% , I'm a woman. I never had a question of paternity and would not have had an issue having my children tested . It's not fair to anyone to lie about this. This law would not break up families, the LIE breaks up families
Did you hear about the guy that kept telling his wife it wasn't his kid. They separated and it wasn't his kid. It wasn't either of their kid. Come to find out their child was in the foster care system for 4 years and the hospital gave them the wrong kid. They had to adopt their own child, and they have the other one to.
Agreed. This is real equality that we are supposedly striving for. Not fake equality that is just shitting on men. We have a long way to go to erase problems that currently exist with what people say is equality and what equality is in reality
As a woman and single mother yes it is needed like yesterday!!!! Men stop signing those papers in the hospital saying your the father that's a lifetime sentence especially if you have doubts.
I have a friend who paid child support for a child that wasn't his. He found out when the mother took him back to court for more money. When caught she said she didn't care. Think about that.
Imagine several years down the line the child goes to the doctor because they're having some type of problem. It is quite common for the doctors to ask about the medical history of the parents because in many cases a parent could have passed on some type of degenerative disease. So, if you have the wrong parent listed on the birth certificate then you're not going to be able to give accurate information to the doctor that could possibly save the life of the child. That's just my two cents worth
People love talking about privilege nowadays. Women have the privilege of knowing 100% that it's their kid, since it came out of their body. Why shouldn't men get the same privilege?
I'm all for this and I'm a woman! This would save family legal departments so many issues in marriages/custody and if the state does the test than the father can be rest assured of his parentage without being blamed.
20 years ago, i took a molecular biology course we were taking about ALS (before the bucket challenge). The professor said that they used to share paternity results but stopped because about 2/3's of the men discovered they were not the fathers. So whether it's 1/3 or 2/3, realize; that's just the women that had a kid to prove infidelity.
I miss the the "you are not the father" dances on Maury. Kids, there was a TV show called Maury Povich back in the day, and he did DNA tests on the show. When the man was found not to be the father, they would jump out of the chair and dance around sometimes and it was pure gold entertainment.
It was satisfying but I do feel bad for the poor kids/babies stuck with these irresponsible mothers. The best part for me though is the moms dramatically running and crying 😂
If DNA tests become standard & everyone has to take one, it’s not about trust. It’s just something you do, like apply for a social security card & buy diapers.
There are two scenarios where paternity tests are not good: (1) if the newborn is unknowingly switched at the hospital or (2) the sample for the test is misplaced/tampered with/mishandled.
@@paulcerny3805 also true. I just don't think paternity tests are as foolproof as they look. A maternity test may also be necessary if a hospital has a history of frequent human error.
DNA tests should be mandatory for this simple reason, people lie. This way, if legal or health crisis arise a faster remedy can be sought. Men who are fathers live a lie and are prevented from taking their rightful place in the family. Men have rights and women who lie about this life-changing subject should face legal consequences.
@@melissarmt7330 you need a record destruction law like we have for gun background check applications. Destroy all records after one year or three years tops. And require warrants to access the database that would now be a government record unless the law specifically says otherwise because just like apple and Google our governments are addicted to more data
Honestly, it doest how the parents feel about it. Do it so the kids can grow up knowing who their father is. Get the test for the kids sake. Be a good mother and do something for your child!
This is excellent news, better late than never. And i want this in every state and while we are at it, why not in the whole world, this is a problem in every country of the world.
As a woman, i 100% support this. Should be manadatory regardless if they consent or not. Fathers/potential fathers/men who mighr be a father need more legal protections
Ironically, these are also all the same women fighting for "a woman's right to choose." I suppose they overlooked these particular ones. Maybe a little more attention to one choice would negate the need for the other, ladies? Many of you are all about men taking responsibility, even if it's for someone else's kid, but you get big mad when it's your turn to be responsible.
For them the right to choose means they want to choose who the father is because they don't want the sperm donor they opened their legs for to be raising their kid.
ALL child support cases start with one critical thing - Establishment of Paternity. Signing the birth certificate does that without DNA testing. Be smart, test before you sign guys.
There needs to be an "Anti-Accuser" Law as well. Accusation = fired and canceled and evicted... then it comes out in court that it was all made up and what is the guy left with?
"evicted"? Are you insane? Why should a home be lost or an apartment vacated? If there is a law that indicates jail for the girl who lied, so be it. But what if she resides at or moves into the home of her brother or another relative? Who hurt you?
I look at it this way: If you are being faithful, in your relationship there shouldn’t be any fight on proving that. This is a great idea. Stay faithful, there will be zero worries!
It's important to note that it's ~30% of men who DOUBT their paternity who turn out not to be the father when tested. This skews the statistic by a lot; there's a whole lot of men who don't feel the need for a paternity test, and are probably 95%+ right that they don't need one. But that said--female here--I'm 100% fine with the idea of mandatory paternity tests! The only asterisk I'd put on it is that I want the swab done right there in front of the mother immediately after birth, to eliminate the possibility of switched-at-birth accidents--hey, it protects the mother, too, that way. The only way my husband would test as not my theoretical kid's father is if I also tested as not my theoretical kid's mother!
I'd agree with an asterisk. See, most men are stand-up fellows, and would be great dads. I had a bio-father that was one of the bad ones. Had a paternity test confirmed him to be my father, automatically granting him rights would probably have been detrimental to my life. I will absolutely agree that there should be a fair and unbiased hearing about his rights, but I think we all know that the system isn't going to give men that.
Not only the DNA test serves for the father but for the mother as well. Since there are incidents of child swapping in hospitals. I have seen cases where kids grow up into adults to find out neither are the parents.
Two things are mandatory in a relationship; a prenuptial agreement and a paternity test. More on topic... if that's not my baby, you're not my girl- and that means neither are my problem.
The woman will always know it's theirs. Why can't the guy have the same assurance? Considering that almost a third of paternity test proves that it's not the father's.
The Tennessee bill referred to was never passed into law (it passed the lower TN chamber, but died in the TN senate), and has not been reintroduced in subsequent legislatures. Moreover, the bill did not seek mandatory DNA testing at birth. It sought to allow a party to contest paternity with a privately procured DNA test, instead of having to rely on the court ordering such a test from a court-approved facility. In short, the bill was about what is acceptable evidence, not about forced testing.
As a woman, I totally agree with paternity tests.
Good for you. I don't want the government to 23 and me my baby right out of the womb 😂 keep that info safe
Same. I could see how a wife might get a little offended by an unfounded accusation. However, that's an indication of a different problem.
@@SpicyPlur That is my own opposition to it as well. The question becomes, who do you trust less? The government that only wants you for your taxes, your vote, and your conscription, or a woman that might have betrayed you and only wants you for your money, and your assets.
@@SpicyPlur why not? They do all types of other stuff like birth certificate and social. Also, why would they dna test you? You gave birth to the kid, I already know it's yours.
If they know it’s the father you shouldn’t have a problem. In the uk a few years ago there were several cases of couples having a baby splitting. The mother would then go for child support but when father went to court having the mum saying no he isn’t the father
This is actually a good thing. Its men in jail for child support and they are not the father.
Isn't that just dark and twisted. All because we just have to "trust" a woman's word.
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I think you should stop shopping for your women at the Dollar Tree.
Mama's baby daddy's maybe
@@celestek.2395 just because a woman is "higher class" doesn't mean shit. Even "moral, quality" women cheat. There's zero way to predict what woman will or won't cheat.
As a woman, I applaud this change! I have nothing to worry about because I KNOW my husband is the father of my children. I'm not a retched floozy.
It's easy to convince women that this is bad for them though. Especially feminists.
Your children, already born, would not be subjected to the test unless you or your husband request it. And I suppose you never heard of gang rape?
I’m a married woman and agree 100%! These cheaters need to be exposed! Love to see accountability in action 😂
Exactly!
I applaud women like you who voluntarily do this
As a woman, I think that a paternity test before signing a birth certificate is fair. And a woman who lies should stand trial for fraud. Men have been in prison for unpaid child support, while the child is not theirs.
In France it’s *illegal* for a father to dna test their own child. If you do it it’s a year in jail and a large fine. The government “wants to keep families together”
@@dearthditch is that only if they're already married, though? I mean, I have mixed feelings if that's the case. Because then it's about doing what's right for the child. I can also see the man's point of view if he later found out there was infidelity, tho. But if you're weighing doing what's best for the innocent child or what's best for the man, I'm always siding with the child at that point. So I don't necessarily think they got that wrong in this case, but jail time is a bit harsh. 🤷♀️
@@dearthditchyeah pure evil.
@@nturavrgchick6055I completely disagree. Men aren’t slaves. The woman who cheated on her husband is responsible for the child 100%. The state has no right to enslave an innocent man. If you cared about the child (which you clearly don’t), then you’d not want the child around an enraged cheated on husband.
If I were French and it happened to me, I’d just move to another country. Let her deal with her own mistakes.
@@CharlesMartel-bd5du do you have children?
As a woman, I fully support this. No one should be “tricked” in to supporting children that aren’t theirs.
It's equal accountability for both parties
Especially for women, committing paternity fraud.
For once in our lifetime would be nice.
thats forbidden in this situation
you're full of it...trying to spread the blame onto men because the women cheat...trying to convince men that it's their fault a woman cheats?...men do take accountability...the courts demand it
THAT! RIGHT THERE!
Those who are honest have nothing to fear. A man has a right to know if he is about to raise another man’s child and the choice.
if u dont have a uterus, u have no choice or rights regarding offsprings
That's what I say. I know my children are my husband's children. I don't play away!
I don’t understand everyone should support this 😂keep them honest! No one should unknowingly be paying for a baby.
The ones against it are sus and you need to keep an eye on them.
Scope creep. That's a lot of valuable data to just stop at simple paternity tests. Imagine medical insurance companies getting fully screened data on every baby (and by proxy, partially on the parents) or police/FBI etc buying up genomes for their cross referencing database.
So who is going to pay for every single birth to be tested. The option is currently available to anyone who WANTS it. A man can refuse to sign a certificate if he wants to.
“Women” should support but they care more about reputation than being truthful and not stealing money from people.
@@ettchaYep. This is the primary downside. Who gets access to the data besides the parents, and the damage they're capable of committing with it.
i was almost fooled once. she let me come to the hospital, had me taking pictures, had my mom over and shit. Then she was like yea you don't need no test I know he's yours. I was like Nope here comes the test and yep i wasn't the father!
What an absolute 🐄, appalling and not rare these days, Well done for being strong and doing the right thing for you AND her child,
Glad you followed through on the test. Too many men fold and deal with the anxiety. ESPECIALLY if you are not married, GET A TEST. She can be mad. This is bigger than that, and far more important.
Mine had a question..just in general, because his buddies warned him...until she as born about 4" longer than any baby girl they had seen. (He is 6'6") My God...and then they saw him and they all laughed. No real question after that.
Dude same... was ready to help till she gave birth to a black baby and we white white
@@kalebcox7782 that's a little harder to lie about! Surprised she had the nerve! 😂
It should absolutely be made mandatory
I don't understand the resistance to this. This is 100% logical and fair.
BTW, notice how in the court room clip the unfaithful woman shakes her head, as if the DNA test is wrong. "I don't know how I could have possibly got pregnant with some other man's baby!" Riiiiight.
Obviously anyone fighting this is riding the carousel of Johnson’s from sea to shiny sea. If I was dating a woman and it came up that she was against this, I’d know she would be cheating on me. So I’d ask her for a discount on her nightly rates.
Dude women will stand before god and say your wrong,even when GOD shows them their life women will still yell it wrong and your wrong!
I agree 100%!! Too many men have been mistreated and abused by "Women," being deceitful.
Exactly
Then there's my father who skipped out on his first 2 kids (even changed his SS number to avoid paying child support) and abandoned my brother and me for 5 years, leaving us in near poverty. He was seriously "mistreated."
Yep my brother was one and they lived together and they split after the baby was born and he bought everything for the baby and had the baby every week and they were going to court for child support than one day in court she says he is not the father so my brother had to take test and sure enough he wasn’t but that BS broke his heart
@@benu_bird So because your father did that, men who aren't the father should be tricked and lied to into staying? If thats not the conclusion then idk what your point is.
@@benu_birdthat’s not the topic here. But sorry that happened.
If it’s mandatory for everyone, it’s no longer an insult or personal
I told my husband that if we are blessed with a baby and he wants a DNA test done by all means I have NO problems with that. I am 100% loyal to my husband and if it makes HIS mind be put at ease I would do it. I do NOT see a problem with doing DNA test at birth!
A loyal woman woulf smile through the test, then never let him live it down. 😂
My kids look like me. They’re both mine. But for medical reasons we had to do DNA testing as I’m white and my wife is Asian. Unsurprisingly they’re both my kids.
paternity fraud should be a felony, multiple if it took decades to find out the truth.
As the mother of an adult son - I believe paternity testing needs to be mandatory.
33% are not the father. Thats only the ones who got tested. How many didnt get tested and dont know
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Percentage from total population might be actually smaller - those who tested had serious suspicions about faithfulness of their woman, probably because they were acting suspicious or already betrayed the trust, so it might be skewered towards higher negative results. So - absolute numbers will be higher, percentage might be both ways, but I would bet lower.
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@@Eshelionthat doesn't make Rational logical sense. It's 33% out of 100% of men who get tested for their children's paternity Now, there are men that have not questioned the validity of their children being there's by getting a blood test. If they did it would go up not down
@@hypergodbeingtrontronhyper3625that's not how it works. People not testing have no issues with paternity, and in all likelihood are legitimate fathers. So if all the legitimate fathers with no suspicions tested it would drive the percentage down not up. But they don't test, so it's a skewed statistic.
The correct way to state this is: 33% of men who suspect they are not the father are correct.
Not: 33% of all men are not the legitimate father to their child.
You're mixing the two up.
I’ve never understood why people get caught cheating and are upset with the 3rd party rather than their significant other. That guy that caught them in the car is an example of a logical man.
Because a lot of times the 3rd party knows she’s got a man
It's denial. They want so bad to believe that what they're seeing isn't real that they'll lash out at the other guy
Depends on if you know the guy beforehand. If it's just some rando that you never met before, then yeah he probably didn't know about you either. If she's banging somebody who knows you, or even worse someone who was a friend or family member, then that person has it coming.
This will help so much with child support! I am so for what TN is doing! All states should do it
Not for the state.
The state makes money off the child support men pay. If men get off the hook, the state is out money, and that's all they really care about.
So I once had a woman many years ago try to baby trap me. She sued me and demanded a test. Her actual live in boyfriend had the gall to call me and demand that I “step up”. You can guess what I told him.
My lawyer told them;”Sure no problem. But we are suing for custody.” Suddenly she dropped the effort.
The most benefits will go to the child, who will not grow up without PROPER knowledge of who the parent is. Its not fair for a child to live a lie. I fully support this!
Aside from knowing who the parents are, it gives them a legitimate medical history to base what might be critical medical care someday.
Thank you. People don't even think about it from the kids POV 😊
As a single mother, of now 2 adults children I was insistent that paternity test be done at Birth because the fact is and I explained the only person who knows for a fact the child is theirs is the mother!
In my lifetime the only women I have seen it get lividly upset when a paternity test was requested are people who don't actually know for a fact who the father of their child is.
But it also goes the other way, when a man is saying the baby is not his and he is refusing to take a paternity test, it is most likely because he knows the babies is his.
It should have been FRAUD decades ago for someone to collect child support in money from someone who was deceived into thinking the child was theirs.
Idk. I know for a fact both my kids are my husband's. But it would hurt my feelings if he asked for a DNA test. Cause that implies he doesn't trust me.
With that being said, if it's mandatory for everyone then go for it. I got nothing to hide.
Yeah, I'm all for a law like this, but here's the deal for the man - because they are also responsible in this situation. If they sign that BC willingly, without a test, and I'm mostly talking about when they aren't married to the mother, don't turn around and demand a test after you've been that child's father for 5 or 10 years. At that point, they are that child's father, blood or not, and they need to keep that job title for the rest of their lives, for that child's sake alone. That's just how I feel about that. That's the same reason a judge in most states won't just let the guy off the hook if they're on that BC. Especially after years have gone by. Because that means they agreed to be listed as the father when it was born, meaning they took legal responsibility for supporting that child as it's parent. And a woman can't list them as the father on a BC unless they are present and agree to it. If they aren't present, no one is listed as the father. So both parties have a responsibility when it comes to the birth certificate.
So men, don't sign it if you aren't sure, or until you get that paternity test. Or at the very least, don't allow yourself to be listed as the dad without fully understanding what it means and the responsibility it brings. Because it's not always about blood or about you. At a certain point, it becomes solely about that child in the eyes of the law. As it should.
@@nturavrgchick6055I don't agree cause some men are tricked and after 5 years,they just find out...the man should get every cent back on spending on that child thatcis not his
@@nturavrgchick6055 What a way to agree to the status quo of paternity fraud. I'm the opposite. Lets change the scenario a little bit a husband is cheated on after having a legitimate child by a woman who later becomes adulterous having relations with other men and the husband signs the birth certificate thinking for all intents and purposes that child is his. Years go by and the truth is learned, should the husband still be on the hook for a woman's deceit? By your logic yes. That is some real equality there 🤨
Totally agree. Not only does the father need to know, the child needs to. Especially if there are any medical issues done the line. If there's nothing to hide, then do the test. Simple!
Exactly! Imagine having the wrong family medical history because of this type of thing. So many things we can screen for but they just wouldn't know to do it. Wild.
That's the same logic for warrantless surches 😂 if you want it go get it stop dragging us in good relationships into your THOT shit
Health issues really don't wash, that knowledge is often unavailable due to adoption for example.
@@janiceperkins4340but they were not adopted. this would be great help!
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For unmarried people yes.
Presumptive laws, in some states should be changed, for example,
California when parents are married, even if the 3 adults involved ALL say that the husband is not the father of a child, it doesn't matter. Even if a DNA test proves otherwise, the husband is held responsible.........For life. Not such a good idea and needs changed. But mandatory, No
The funny part to me is HOW common this is and they KNOW the likelihood of themselves commiting infidelity, but they act like we're crazy and unfair for wanting a TEST. 🤦♂️
As an honest woman, I fully support mandatory testing…my husband spend our money every month for a kid he doesn’t even know is his or not
I loved the old Maury show where a woman would bring in a group of 4 or 5 men and NONE of them are the father. Then later she'd show up with another group of men to be tested 🤣
I agree with this move! Too many women take advantage of one or more of the men they sleep with. This needs to stop! Criminal offense should be mandatory!
If you went back in time with paternity tests and told a king or monarch that you could 100% prove if his heirs were his or not, they would give you literally anything you want.
They would actually watch the Royal Union back then. Multiple important ppl would witness it because it was that important
They may call you a witch though 😂
Only on the wedding night to see the sheets and that she was a virgin. @@terrythomas212
He would probably give you a station with some serious perks in order to establish it as common practice.
@@terrythomas212yeah and imagine how awkward it was, wouldn’t you want an alternative?😂
I've been waiting for this to happen, way overdo!
Yup! Women out there with rosters, running trains. Several guys in the same night sometimes. This needs to be a national thing, federally.
@JF-cd5hc
Overdue? Absolutely.
But it shouldn't be federal. Should be a state mandated thing that is included with your birth certificate.
Giving the Fed control of anything more than the most basic things (like utilities, roads, water, ect.) Is a recipe for disaster.
Would you research a 20 year loan that could take up to 45% of your pay check ? Most DNA test are under 100.00.
Making it mandatory will make it way cheaper still economy of scale baby
Can I just give kudos to my home state of Tennessee. Mandatory DNA testing at birth, potential attempted fraud charges and the potential 💀🪦 penalty for convicted child predators?????
Lock it in UT. Lock that shyt in
It’s about damn time
How about don't have sex with more than one guy. How difficult is that??? Unreal...
The sex addict they can’t control themselves that’s not an option
It a sad world we live in most dude just want love
Quit slut shaming. Worry about your own body.
@@MetalHead-ks9zq Both the girls and the boys. Men and women can control themselves.
@@romannavarro1178 As do the dudettes.
I totally agree with this new law. Ive seen so many men absolutely broken cuz they found out that theyre pride and joy wasnt theirs. Its sad. Men have rights too. And they deserve their paternity rights. As a mother i 100,000% agree with this.
Mandatory paternity test should be law. Also there should be restitution of every penny spent if it is not your child!
Those females that don't agree with this automatic label that person a 304 it is simple.
I presented this bill in Louisiana over a year ago.
To my state legislators via email.
I love that. Let them know what we the people want from this country! Good job being politically active.
Every child deserves to know who their father is. Every child! I am 100% behind any mandatory paternity test prior to birth certificate being signed. I am also 100% behind maternity fraud prosecution for mothers who have had another man’s child and yet took Money from a man for years, whether they were together or separated or divorced, making that man’s life very difficult to live financially. It’s heartbreaking to know the devastation that is done to the father who fell in love with the child, raised it to the best of their ability only to find out they were not their child. It’s heartbreaking for the child to have always thought the man that loved them invested thereand care into their raising is not their father the devastation it causes to a child is in measurable. These laws would preempt this type of tragedy.
GOOGLE case # 95-2383 State of Wisconsin Court of Appeals. You will see how rotten women can be. SHANE CC vs Karen M
It has nothing to do with trust. It's just the right thing to do at every birth. It happens to often to not do something about this. If any woman is against this then she's the reason it's needed.
It has everything to do with trust. Mandating it this way means you trust the government and hospital with extremely sensitive information. You trust them not to turn around and make it a $20,000 test so gov can make more $$ off of you.
Yes! DNA should be mandatory.
If should be If a child comes up missing , kidnapped they have the DNA on record
Imagine wanting to not steal a quarter of a mans paycheck. These girls cant relate
Child support is a percentage calculated from the gross monthly income and then stolen from the net amount of his check, real support exceeds 45 % of a paycheck
@@trotptkabasnbi6655 take my wallet at that point lol
I always think it is telling that when women have a possibility that more than one person could have fathered their child they are always sure it's the one with assets and a steady job who is the father. They never believe it's the unemployed guy that hasn't bothered to call in several months
@@rustynails8756 lmfao how convenient 🤣
they took over half my check, even after I had full custody for a year... She didnt pay for a decade... never had her license taken or jail time for failure to support...
I was stunned that ⅓ of men may not be their "childrens" father. But I 💯 agree with paternity tests and also prosecute the women who lie.
It's because it's all ghetto either baby mama drama or welfare requirements 🥴 if a man wants it okay, but us healthy couples don't need to be dragged into a ghetto tale. Come back with a warrent 😂
100% support prosecution tho
1/3 of the men in the study. The sample was taken from dudes that already had reason to be suspicious.
To say it in Bill Burr's words; If 25-30% of parachutes would fail, would you jump out of a plane?
I guess no one remembers that Maury was on for YEARS with You are not the father episodes. 99.9% of all the men on there were not the fathers. It should be tested before signing the birth certificate.
Not to mention sometimes the ones that bought 6 , 7 , 10 guys and still no father
I suppose you are the ONLY person not completely aware that those shows were scripted. And to admit that you watched that TRASH for years? Pure brain rot
Keep in mind that it's also a show for entertainment,how many women do all that running in real life😂
But remember it's also a show for entertainment, women don't do all that running and falling over in real life😂
@@belthazor191 I've seen plenty of women acting like that in public.
I support this 100% , I'm a woman. I never had a question of paternity and would not have had an issue having my children tested . It's not fair to anyone to lie about this. This law would not break up families, the LIE breaks up families
Anyone against this, has something to hide.
There are men in jail for not paying child support to a child that is not his.
could you imagine being a kid and going through this, nobody even considers how devastating and world ending this is for most kids
Did you hear about the guy that kept telling his wife it wasn't his kid. They separated and it wasn't his kid. It wasn't either of their kid. Come to find out their child was in the foster care system for 4 years and the hospital gave them the wrong kid. They had to adopt their own child, and they have the other one to.
That's why DNA tests on the child before they leave the hospital.
Wow 😮
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Damn that’s some soap opera shit!
I’ve seen cases of children being swapped and they are not sent to their parents, even if they use alarms in their ankles.
Agreed. This is real equality that we are supposedly striving for. Not fake equality that is just shitting on men. We have a long way to go to erase problems that currently exist with what people say is equality and what equality is in reality
Long past due
Any woman who would get salty about this, I would assume have something to hide. This just makes sense.
As a woman and single mother yes it is needed like yesterday!!!!
Men stop signing those papers in the hospital saying your the father that's a lifetime sentence especially if you have doubts.
To get welfare or child support u have to take a dna test
This is a great idea also.
@@JF-cd5hcit's not an idea it's already required to prevent fraud. That's why 1/3 or whatever people f around and find out. It's all supper ghetto
Insane to be against that
Insane to support the 4th amendment? 😂
I have a friend who paid child support for a child that wasn't his. He found out when the mother took him back to court for more money. When caught she said she didn't care. Think about that.
Imagine several years down the line the child goes to the doctor because they're having some type of problem. It is quite common for the doctors to ask about the medical history of the parents because in many cases a parent could have passed on some type of degenerative disease. So, if you have the wrong parent listed on the birth certificate then you're not going to be able to give accurate information to the doctor that could possibly save the life of the child.
That's just my two cents worth
People love talking about privilege nowadays. Women have the privilege of knowing 100% that it's their kid, since it came out of their body. Why shouldn't men get the same privilege?
To those living a privileged life... Equality feels like discrimination.
And yet they are also the ones who always demand equality as well. Now they are going to receive their equality why aren't they happy.
F*cked around and didn't find out.
I'm all for this and I'm a woman! This would save family legal departments so many issues in marriages/custody and if the state does the test than the father can be rest assured of his parentage without being blamed.
20 years ago, i took a molecular biology course we were taking about ALS (before the bucket challenge). The professor said that they used to share paternity results but stopped because about 2/3's of the men discovered they were not the fathers.
So whether it's 1/3 or 2/3, realize; that's just the women that had a kid to prove infidelity.
I miss the the "you are not the father" dances on Maury. Kids, there was a TV show called Maury Povich back in the day, and he did DNA tests on the show. When the man was found not to be the father, they would jump out of the chair and dance around sometimes and it was pure gold entertainment.
My friends & I turned it into a game. We played everyday after work.
Good times.
Voting on paternity before dinner.
As a teen, that show opened my eyes to how trifling women CAN be. I'm so thankful for that show. 🙏
Notice how the Bm would run off stage: “Boo-Hoo.. I’m a Ratchet Fraudulent Cheater” and now everybody knows it…🤨🤨
Absolute gold👍
It was satisfying but I do feel bad for the poor kids/babies stuck with these irresponsible mothers. The best part for me though is the moms dramatically running and crying 😂
Yes mandatory priternty tests.
If DNA tests become standard & everyone has to take one, it’s not about trust. It’s just something you do, like apply for a social security card & buy diapers.
Yeah then Governments can hunt down the dna they don’t like. Great idea…
Paternity fraud needs to be a felony.
I totally agree with this long over due.. I have four sons
As a woman I have been asking for this for a long time--i have seen multiple men whos lives have been nearly destroyed by leg-spreaders
There are two scenarios where paternity tests are not good: (1) if the newborn is unknowingly switched at the hospital or (2) the sample for the test is misplaced/tampered with/mishandled.
Ok true BUT 1/3 that’s not your talking maybe 1/50
@@paulcerny3805 also true. I just don't think paternity tests are as foolproof as they look. A maternity test may also be necessary if a hospital has a history of frequent human error.
FINALLY A LAW THAT MAKES SENSE💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
I love this!!!!❤❤❤❤ 🙆🏻♀️🙏This law will discourage bad women from having babies for profit. Finally!!!!!❤❤❤
Good law. My son found his 23 yr. marriage 3 of the 5 children he's raised are not his. The title "wife" doesn't mean loyalty.
Agree with y'all 💯 I'd hate for a woman to do this to any of my sons
Its about KNOWING so you can actually LOVE & Build without doubting who your sharing your life with
"Speaking in italics" lmao hahahahaha....
Feelings don't care about facts and facts don't care about feelings. Given that, your feelings DO NOT change the facts. Plain and simple.
DNA tests should be mandatory for this simple reason, people lie. This way, if legal or health crisis arise a faster remedy can be sought. Men who are fathers live a lie and are prevented from taking their rightful place in the family. Men have rights and women who lie about this life-changing subject should face legal consequences.
As do governments. Goodness knows what the government will do with all that DNA information. Don't get me wrong, I support the TN decision.
@@melissarmt7330 you need a record destruction law like we have for gun background check applications. Destroy all records after one year or three years tops. And require warrants to access the database that would now be a government record unless the law specifically says otherwise because just like apple and Google our governments are addicted to more data
Mama's baby, Daddy's maybe, is the slogan of the century
Honestly, it doest how the parents feel about it. Do it so the kids can grow up knowing who their father is. Get the test for the kids sake. Be a good mother and do something for your child!
Why would anyone be against this, kids deserve to know for certain who their father is.
This is excellent news, better late than never. And i want this in every state and while we are at it, why not in the whole world, this is a problem in every country of the world.
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As a woman, i 100% support this. Should be manadatory regardless if they consent or not. Fathers/potential fathers/men who mighr be a father need more legal protections
Ironically, these are also all the same women fighting for "a woman's right to choose."
I suppose they overlooked these particular ones. Maybe a little more attention to one choice would negate the need for the other, ladies?
Many of you are all about men taking responsibility, even if it's for someone else's kid, but you get big mad when it's your turn to be responsible.
For them the right to choose means they want to choose who the father is because they don't want the sperm donor they opened their legs for to be raising their kid.
Making it mandatory eliminates the feelings of mistrust. It’s not about suspicion, it’s the law. If the woman is faithful, it shouldn’t be a problem.
ALL child support cases start with one critical thing - Establishment of Paternity. Signing the birth certificate does that without DNA testing. Be smart, test before you sign guys.
I fully support this. Testing for all, each and every time, no exceptions.
DNA testing should be mandatory at birth.
I will always be for ANY laws intended to expose fraud of any nature.
There needs to be an "Anti-Accuser" Law as well. Accusation = fired and canceled and evicted... then it comes out in court that it was all made up and what is the guy left with?
"evicted"? Are you insane? Why should a home be lost or an apartment vacated? If there is a law that indicates jail for the girl who lied, so be it. But what if she resides at or moves into the home of her brother or another relative? Who hurt you?
I look at it this way: If you are being faithful, in your relationship there shouldn’t be any fight on proving that. This is a great idea. Stay faithful, there will be zero worries!
It's important to note that it's ~30% of men who DOUBT their paternity who turn out not to be the father when tested. This skews the statistic by a lot; there's a whole lot of men who don't feel the need for a paternity test, and are probably 95%+ right that they don't need one.
But that said--female here--I'm 100% fine with the idea of mandatory paternity tests! The only asterisk I'd put on it is that I want the swab done right there in front of the mother immediately after birth, to eliminate the possibility of switched-at-birth accidents--hey, it protects the mother, too, that way. The only way my husband would test as not my theoretical kid's father is if I also tested as not my theoretical kid's mother!
Am a woman and I approve of this message !! No paternity , Welfare Benfits or daddy payments !! And prosecution is a must !!
About 50 years too damn late but most welcome.
Wildest video I’ve seen. Up to 30% of fathers are being defrauded?! Horrible. As a woman I support mandatory paternity tests.
I like it but if that man is proven to be the father he should automatically get parental rights post DNA test.
I'd agree with an asterisk. See, most men are stand-up fellows, and would be great dads. I had a bio-father that was one of the bad ones. Had a paternity test confirmed him to be my father, automatically granting him rights would probably have been detrimental to my life. I will absolutely agree that there should be a fair and unbiased hearing about his rights, but I think we all know that the system isn't going to give men that.
I am so down for this law to be in every state. Yes, America!! 🇺🇸 🇺🇸
Yes this is good these women are super scandalous
Not only the DNA test serves for the father but for the mother as well. Since there are incidents of child swapping in hospitals. I have seen cases where kids grow up into adults to find out neither are the parents.
Small step for mankind...
Not just some story. Victim here. Found out 33 years after her dirty deeds.
Two things are mandatory in a relationship; a prenuptial agreement and a paternity test. More on topic... if that's not my baby, you're not my girl- and that means neither are my problem.
Facts
..."you're not my girl-". What a childish statement. A man seeks women, not girls.
Nowhere near as childish as making a complaint over semantics. Point remains the same, nimrod.
The woman will always know it's theirs. Why can't the guy have the same assurance? Considering that almost a third of paternity test proves that it's not the father's.
Hot girl summer gone wrong
Hot girl summer = single mother spring.
Full support for this. Also would help prevent accidents at the hospital where babies get switched by mistake
Or a mandatory test if you are applying to get child support from someone
LMAO 'the roster'
The Tennessee bill referred to was never passed into law (it passed the lower TN chamber, but died in the TN senate), and has not been reintroduced in subsequent legislatures. Moreover, the bill did not seek mandatory DNA testing at birth. It sought to allow a party to contest paternity with a privately procured DNA test, instead of having to rely on the court ordering such a test from a court-approved facility. In short, the bill was about what is acceptable evidence, not about forced testing.