What SILVER should you buy before it’s $50 an ounce? My dealer's surprising answer!

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  • @YankeeStacking
    @YankeeStacking  3 роки тому +117

    Tim Marschner
    The Coin and Stamp Shop (Tim ships!)
    300 Granite Street
    Manchester, NH 03102
    (603) 624-4400

    • @chuckswearengin6300
      @chuckswearengin6300 3 роки тому +6

      You and Tim have an awesome relationship. Love hearing you two talk about stacking. Now I want to go buy a ten oz bar to add to my stack.✌🏼🤔

    • @DeadGODhunteR
      @DeadGODhunteR 3 роки тому +12

      Someone needs to help Tim out with that website🤦‍♂️

    • @kevinsharpe87
      @kevinsharpe87 3 роки тому +2

      Thank you. I think

    • @marciabosteder5682
      @marciabosteder5682 3 роки тому +7

      I wish Tim was my LCS
      He's a good man.

    • @YankeeStacking
      @YankeeStacking  3 роки тому +2

      @@DeadGODhunteR What website? 😂😂😂 That ain’t ever gonna happen with Tim.

  • @happysingle6240
    @happysingle6240 3 роки тому +125

    Tim is an old school gentleman, I respect him for that. I wish there was a TRUSTED coin dealer in my area. Thank You for the great video's .!

    • @UrineOccult
      @UrineOccult 3 роки тому

      Same!

    • @metalfuture1982
      @metalfuture1982 3 роки тому

      You could go to Tim's shop. Or search in your local area and check for the average prices buying and selling.

    • @lukastaylor593
      @lukastaylor593 3 роки тому +5

      Definitely one of the good o'l boys

    • @gerardramirez6320
      @gerardramirez6320 2 роки тому

      Totally

    • @Neverenuftime
      @Neverenuftime 2 роки тому +1

      My dealer in KY is awesome and honest.

  • @paulodonnell2820
    @paulodonnell2820 3 роки тому +58

    It’s nice to hear Tim understands human nature and natural fear when times are hard. Having a bit of honest advice and experience at a time like that is worth as much as the gold/silver itself! Love this channel😍

  • @andrewfine2576
    @andrewfine2576 3 роки тому +24

    Tim’s my favorite UA-cam LCS owner. He is the type of person I like to do business with. I wish him the best

  • @getx1265
    @getx1265 3 роки тому +38

    Tim's getting to feel a bit more comfortable in front of the camera! Nice interview for sure!! Thx to you both!

  • @TtheSilverStacker
    @TtheSilverStacker 3 роки тому +51

    That’s funny. My LCS owner said something very similar. Good stuff guys!

  • @Mark1959Holladay
    @Mark1959Holladay 3 роки тому +5

    If things go like they appear to be heading all bets are off. That's why I own several different kinds of silver i.e generic rounds, 90% junk silver Morgan 1921 $1, Kennedy Half's, Quarters' and dimes, also bars. of course nothing over an oz. And Gold maple leaf's from a oz down to a gram. Seeing my wife and I have no children and were both the oldest of our respective siblings I'm hoping I can leave it for my and her nieces and nephews I've been stacking for over 60 years now thanks to my grandpa and dad (both were never big on banks and the greenbacks and said gold and silver were God's money) Lord willing we can bless them and our church. Blessings to all

  • @artofthespirits
    @artofthespirits 3 роки тому +70

    Love Tim!! The first 7 years didn't even make a profit?? Damn great business man for sticking it out as that business is not easy like everyone thinks.

    • @hector5749
      @hector5749 3 роки тому

      No profit because the APE bought the dip for 10 years straight.

  • @Growmechanic
    @Growmechanic 3 роки тому +28

    Always tuning in for Tim’s knowledge!

  • @jagdishshastri2581
    @jagdishshastri2581 3 роки тому +10

    Such a humble person, and wishing him success.

  • @jimthompson9992
    @jimthompson9992 3 роки тому +23

    That was an AWESOME interview clip with Tim, Yankee! Great questions...great answers! I just wish I had a LCS like his close to me instead of hours away...that's the downside of being at the Outer Banks I guess. God bless you and your family Yankee and pass along a God bless to Tim if you would, please! 👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸

    • @trp2413
      @trp2413 3 роки тому +3

      Small price to pay for being away from the large sh ities

  • @TheLavadiver
    @TheLavadiver 3 роки тому +11

    I stack Gold, Silver, Lead, and Brass.

    • @lrc9304
      @lrc9304 3 роки тому +1

      I assume you "stack" lead and brass for making bullets ?😏

    • @matthewgray469
      @matthewgray469 2 роки тому

      What about copper? No one seems to want to discuss copper while apocalyptic Road Warrior types invade people's plumbing and strip their plumbing,so what shall we do?

  • @SilverTurtle65
    @SilverTurtle65 3 роки тому +30

    Buy what you can afford and a diversified investment strategy is also important in my opinion.

    • @mfb3042
      @mfb3042 3 роки тому +5

      Probably should focus on maple leafs, but sometimes I just want something like a Noah's ark.

    • @mariagaluppo6171
      @mariagaluppo6171 3 роки тому

      @@mfb3042 I’ve got a bunch of rounds I regret and wish they were all eagles maples etc

    • @trp2413
      @trp2413 3 роки тому +1

      I’m diversified; I have 90%, rounds, coins, cast bars, machined bars, hand poured bars, MS70 NCG stuff, and Silver Shield BU, Silver Shield Proof, plus Platinum bars, Platinum Coins, Gold Bars, and Gold Coins,
      Yep, diversity ☺️

    • @mariagaluppo6171
      @mariagaluppo6171 3 роки тому

      @@trp2413 I got mainly rounds and bars in silver sum constitutional silver and smaller gold pieces need to keep stacking good luck let’s bust the fiat system silvers the way 👊🏻

    • @rchicks22
      @rchicks22 2 роки тому

      @@mariagaluppo6171 an ounce of silver is an ounce of silver, but I do have to agree with you in that my least favorite silver are some of my generic rounds. I like my buffaloes and sunshine rounds just fine, but some of my other generic rounds would be the first ones I sell or trade if I ever unload some silver. Krugerranda and Britannias are going at good premiums today, so I prefer them to ASE’s or Maples for the price.

  • @DudeDave
    @DudeDave 3 роки тому +23

    Love the videos with Tim. Like the trust topic and know that feeling when the silver, gun, and tire guy says he's got the ONLY deal for me! 😆

  • @cmc7106
    @cmc7106 3 роки тому +30

    Hey Yankee , what’s Tim thought on pre 1933 gold . Have you ever discussed it with him ?
    Your videos are always interesting!!

  • @sebastianschmidt1860
    @sebastianschmidt1860 3 роки тому +20

    Tim is such a great guy!

  • @connormonnery6998
    @connormonnery6998 3 роки тому +10

    Great to see Tim back!! ❤️ listening to Tim. 👍🏽🤩

  • @StrongStacker1
    @StrongStacker1 3 роки тому +12

    Tim and Yankee are my favorite tag team to go too! Great video gentlemen!

  • @cryptomonkey6142
    @cryptomonkey6142 2 роки тому +3

    What a nice, genuine and honest man, I'd buy from him without a moment of hesitation.

  • @trailguy
    @trailguy 3 роки тому +40

    I remember in the 70s offers were advertised to buy your gold and it didn’t matter if was a tiffanies necklace or a homemade bar, everything was bought by the ounce.

    • @youretheai7586
      @youretheai7586 3 роки тому +1

      Sure, but some coins are tax exempt.

    • @trp2413
      @trp2413 3 роки тому

      And offering 20% under spot for it while coins were being snatched up for over spot

  • @rawbeautytv
    @rawbeautytv 3 роки тому +18

    The buffalos are much more bang for the buck and super recognizable. I refuse to pay those ASE premiums especially since I'm stacking for long term. I never get those really unique stuff because if I have to use my rounds in a pinched economy then buffalos are just as recognizable.

  • @lions_tribe7759
    @lions_tribe7759 3 роки тому +14

    So Britts and Maples i def stack even more

  • @bullionaddict9164
    @bullionaddict9164 3 роки тому +37

    I've always liked silver bars.
    The premiums are coming down on some of them at least some of the ones I've been able to find recently.
    I like being able to build up some weight quickly 💪
    FYI I always enjoy you and Tim's chit chats 👌

    • @mfb3042
      @mfb3042 3 роки тому +1

      I was spoiled 5 years ago. I'll buy the coins over $30, but for some reason $300 for a ten ounce bar is hard for me to do.

    • @stratcaptain66
      @stratcaptain66 3 роки тому +3

      I feel exactly the opposite, I’ve purchased only one tube of silver maples so far, but I’ve purchased 2 100 oz, 1 50 oz, and many 10 oz bars in the meantime

    • @thereignofthezero225
      @thereignofthezero225 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah my goal was acquiring my body weight in silver but I ended up with about twice that haha.

    • @jamesshelbydownard7674
      @jamesshelbydownard7674 3 роки тому +1

      The price of big bars is no longer any better for the smaller sizes. In times of trouble, big bars will be a liability.

    • @Dave-yw2wc
      @Dave-yw2wc 3 роки тому +2

      @@mfb3042 I loaded up on 15 10oz APMEX bars on ebay for 274 (270 after cash back on card) each about a week ago. Was a flash sale by APMEX and it happened during the last dip. I'm curious how much a LCS would give for generics from companies like SD or APMEX. I'm curious if I'd get less for APMEX bars vs Sunshine minting or SD bullion rounds vs Sunshine.

  • @DeplorableSon1776
    @DeplorableSon1776 3 роки тому +1

    God Bless Your Wife Tim. Sorry for your loss. Thanks for sharing.....

  • @jamesrobison3
    @jamesrobison3 3 роки тому +4

    Seems like a fantastic person very honest!!!

  • @michaelhatzinikolis8351
    @michaelhatzinikolis8351 3 роки тому +3

    Hey there Tim and Yankee stacker I'm not stopping anytime soon lower silver doesn't hurt my feelings

  • @ericcasagrande
    @ericcasagrande 3 роки тому +7

    Tim's an awesome guy with a heart of gold. I love the talks you have with him.

  • @SILVERSTREAK925
    @SILVERSTREAK925 3 роки тому +14

    Always enjoy Tim's interviews.

  • @TacticalPeace
    @TacticalPeace 2 роки тому +5

    Pre 64 has been my main focus for awhile. Dimes mostly whenever silver hits 50-100/oz fractional will be even more popular than it is now. I’ll be able to liquidate easily.

  • @SmithsnMoz
    @SmithsnMoz 3 роки тому +5

    Tim looks younger with that haircut. GREAT VIDEO! LOVE listening to Tim. Thanks Yankee!

  • @CashAndCoinsYT
    @CashAndCoinsYT 3 роки тому +8

    There are 2 LCS's I go to most of the time one sells rounds and sovereign coins about the same, while the other sells rounds for a couple of bucks below the cost of a sovereign. Good info Yankee.

  • @aipacsucks
    @aipacsucks 3 роки тому +5

    TRUST! You can't value that enough, especially in these insane times. Tim is a priceless resource. Knowledge and integrity worth its weight in gold+.

  • @stackallday2498
    @stackallday2498 3 роки тому +7

    LCS Tim lookin sharp ! God bless Yankee his family and Tim

  • @pmh1nic
    @pmh1nic 3 роки тому +7

    It's always a pleasure listening to Tim and hearing his perspective on the market.

  • @m.7n6
    @m.7n6 2 роки тому +3

    Problem is people are so picky about designs on the bars I just don't care it's silver it's bullion it's worth same price as the other bar of silver

  • @davidf3883
    @davidf3883 3 місяці тому

    I liked what Time shared about himself and his time on the other side of the counter...it shows that you CARE Tim. Your kids were blessed to have you as their dad.

  • @scottm7720
    @scottm7720 3 роки тому +7

    I love hearing him talk, great video as always.

  • @phillipharris5155
    @phillipharris5155 Рік тому +3

    Both of you guys have helped me more than you know. Thank you Yankee, thank you Tim. Love you guys! Your videos are the best ! 👍🏻💯❤️

  • @BobGymlan
    @BobGymlan 3 роки тому +21

    I’m so sorry for Tim’s loss. Please give him condolences from me.

  • @SquarePegDivergent
    @SquarePegDivergent 2 роки тому +1

    What am I stacking? A little bit of everything! However, my available square footage for storing stuff is VERY small! 6 months of food, hygiene, & first aid take up the majority of space. Second would be the cat food & litter. Then there's the heater & 1-burner cook unit plus a goodly amount of propane to run them in case the power goes out.
    With our household needs covered, but little space left, I looked at a good many barter item suggestion lists & focused on SMALL items in SMALL packages that folks might not think about. These include things like shoelaces, coffee, q-tips, dice, notebooks, pencils, & sharpeners, nail clippers, lip balms, batteries, etc
    Of course I also got a little stash of the precious, in grams & ounces, & here's a tip for folks: just ONE tobacco plant makes about a buh-ZILLION of the tiniest little seeds you ever did see!

  • @MilledSteel
    @MilledSteel 3 роки тому +8

    Always great to hear Tim’s thoughts

  • @l4nc4ster7
    @l4nc4ster7 3 роки тому +1

    what a nice man Tim, didn´t know that he had to face all that in the past. What a story of selfachievment! and So nice of you Yankee to help him on your channel.

  • @altonguis8870
    @altonguis8870 Рік тому +1

    Premiums are just too high to buy the coins like silver eagles at least they were, I just buy rounds (the well known ones), like sunshine mint, JM, etc....I stay away from the fly by nighters that come and go. Don't get me wrong I will buy the maples and eagles if the price is comparable but when they jump up, just buy rounds. Silver is silver...I always appreciate Tim's advice....

  • @silentbliss7666
    @silentbliss7666 3 роки тому +7

    Tim is awesome as always :) Silver artpiece, jewellery, wares will fetch only melt value so definitely stick to 999 coins and small bars

  • @gunnargundersen3787
    @gunnargundersen3787 3 роки тому +13

    To be honest this is why I'm reluctant to sell some stuff to LCS's. A Merry Christmas bar is going on E Bay, ditto The collectables. The LCS can have my Britannias and Eagles.

    • @well.thy.one.
      @well.thy.one. 3 роки тому +2

      Probably a good approach.

    • @littleredpony6868
      @littleredpony6868 3 роки тому +4

      Back in 2018 I had bought 3 colorized Christmas 1 ounce rounds for Christmas gifts and I thought that I was getting robbed for paying $26 a piece for each of the rounds. Now $26 an ounce looks like a deal.

    • @well.thy.one.
      @well.thy.one. 3 роки тому +2

      @@littleredpony6868 recall spot at that point?

    • @littleredpony6868
      @littleredpony6868 3 роки тому +3

      @@well.thy.one. it was in the $14 range

    • @well.thy.one.
      @well.thy.one. 3 роки тому

      @@littleredpony6868 oh wow hefty premiums. Yea certainly doesnt look bad now tho.

  • @shawnspreciousbullyon
    @shawnspreciousbullyon 3 роки тому +4

    Thanks for my fix of some Tim video lol!!! You two guys are awesome and I'm thankful for what you do for the community Yankee. Be well sir and may your August be A-OK!!

  • @DS-tt9vz
    @DS-tt9vz 3 роки тому +16

    I prefer Maples and 1 oz Sunshine rounds. When I pick up bars it's usually Sunshine or RCM 10 oz bars. Shouldn't have trouble moving them if need be.

    • @pongod5751
      @pongod5751 3 роки тому

      Sunshine rounds are cheap and great...i have a bunch myself

  • @BoneDeepLithics
    @BoneDeepLithics 3 роки тому +3

    Glad to see Tim again, was thinking last night that I would like to see another interview with him. Right on time👍🏻

  • @winstonsmith3070
    @winstonsmith3070 3 роки тому +3

    Tim is the guy I trust most when it comes to precious metals.

  • @bigchief70
    @bigchief70 3 роки тому +7

    Silver has been getting crushed. Will it even be at $25/oz by year's end?

    • @stopasking9745
      @stopasking9745 3 роки тому +2

      If I had to guess I would say it will probably be closer to $28 by the end of the year but I think we may touch $22 in the meantime

    • @davidyadegarians6963
      @davidyadegarians6963 3 роки тому +1

      @@stopasking9745 nice call on the $22 did you back up the truck

  • @ranni7699
    @ranni7699 3 роки тому +3

    Tim! Always love hearing what he has to say!

  • @daviddawei9145
    @daviddawei9145 3 роки тому +3

    I offered a friend an Obama Silver Round as a gift and he said he didn't want it
    ...HaHa

  • @Bloosee
    @Bloosee 3 роки тому +6

    That was an interesting theory as price go up the premiums become the same. I'll still buy coins for the liquidity short term, just in case....

  • @lancelloyd7429
    @lancelloyd7429 3 роки тому +6

    Tim's the man.

  • @PlumberStacker
    @PlumberStacker 3 роки тому +4

    Another good one Yankee! You and tim are great together 🔧🔧

  • @venictos
    @venictos 3 роки тому +2

    Great video guys. Your conversations with Tim inspire me to meet up with my LCS.

  • @nobody342
    @nobody342 3 роки тому +1

    So some states charge sells tax on silver ie bars and rounds, where coins from a mint, because they are legal currency will not have that tax on them, so there is a advantage of buying something like a eagle or mapleleaf instead of buying non currency silver,

  • @markhuber8345
    @markhuber8345 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks Yankee, I always love and learn something from these Q&A videos with Tim.

  • @jamesshelbydownard7674
    @jamesshelbydownard7674 3 роки тому +31

    I purchase by whatever gets me the most metal.

    • @manoloborja388
      @manoloborja388 3 роки тому +2

      Same...I don't care about "brand"

    • @armandofraga5754
      @armandofraga5754 3 роки тому +1

      That’s how I roll... been buying 10oz bars lately just for that reason

  • @eileenmcgovern9193
    @eileenmcgovern9193 3 роки тому +4

    You deserve a lot more followers.

  • @RosaBrandDesigns
    @RosaBrandDesigns 3 роки тому +3

    Such an awesome vid. This makes a ton of sense. Glad you have another satisfied customer. ;)

  • @auntrayjones625
    @auntrayjones625 3 роки тому +2

    Greatly appreciate this vid and Tim’s honesty !!!!!

  • @sarge27271
    @sarge27271 3 роки тому +8

    What?? Did Tim say that when many investors buy Silver there's less of it??? Are you sure? Cause the MSM said it doesn't make a difference. I guess they have a 3D Silver printer.
    You just feed it Silver and it....Oh, wait......
    Shit's gonna go sideways real fast!!! Even those prepared will be dizzy!! That's the way it always goes. So, be patient. It's coming...

  • @CoinHound
    @CoinHound 3 роки тому +2

    As always, an enjoyable and informative visit with Tim.

  • @scottcahala7779
    @scottcahala7779 3 роки тому +3

    Awesome advice. Thanks for sharing with us all.

  • @goldcicvibefel9966
    @goldcicvibefel9966 3 роки тому +3

    Tell them kilo bricks or more. Best is 4,000 oz Gold bars or Atocha 80 lb anvil silver bars. Somebody reset my kitco app to usd kilo price instead of Troy oz once. Almost had stroke. 🙆‍♀️🤣

  • @brexit9279
    @brexit9279 3 роки тому +9

    There is only one silver to buy before we have $50.00 silver….buy $30.00 silver

    • @ronjeremy2850
      @ronjeremy2850 2 роки тому

      Wont happen

    • @mwods1
      @mwods1 2 роки тому +1

      @@ronjeremy2850 adjusted for inflation sooner or later my friend it's going to happen.

  • @gasdorficmuncher9943
    @gasdorficmuncher9943 3 роки тому +8

    love hearing from these small local coin shop owners

  • @monte4150
    @monte4150 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Yankee, great video with Tim as usual. Can't say enough how much Tim is just a great guy.

  • @PirateStacker
    @PirateStacker 3 роки тому +2

    Good stuff... I like the video's with Tim, he's great!

  • @theenglishprofessor8411
    @theenglishprofessor8411 3 роки тому +39

    Tim got his ears lowered! That’s a nice haircut!!

  • @kconnor4568
    @kconnor4568 Місяць тому

    I love going to these sites that are 1-3 years old and the information that they give.
    I like seeing predictions of value, silver supply (will it go up or down), and when you should buy it or sell it.
    Like I said, these are and can be fun.

  • @georgem.4898
    @georgem.4898 3 роки тому +2

    Adding to all the great info you generously always provide, thank you very much for tweaking the audio levels! =D

  • @darrellmathis1
    @darrellmathis1 3 роки тому +2

    Precious metals will be like water. Believe it or not, prepare with that mindset, should it fall and you can get the physical it'll be a blessing.

  • @silver4all
    @silver4all 3 роки тому +3

    Great video thanks Yankee!

  • @onemorevalyrian7188
    @onemorevalyrian7188 3 роки тому +1

    YS, the videos with Tim are SO outstanding. You're luck you know him, I don't trust my local LCS guy...nope, I don't. Please keep up the great work, always a treat!

  • @Hasher411
    @Hasher411 3 роки тому +1

    I think this has to be the best video with Tim that I have seen so far.

  • @bricktownsilver5523
    @bricktownsilver5523 3 роки тому +4

    Luv these interviews!

  • @swcollector1340
    @swcollector1340 3 роки тому +1

    Tim is the star of this channel. I always watch every video when he is on your thumbnail. Great guy.

    • @YankeeStacking
      @YankeeStacking  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks! Glad to carry his water for ya! 😂

  • @TurkeyCreekjackjohnson_
    @TurkeyCreekjackjohnson_ 3 роки тому +4

    My coin show guy walks around the shop barefoot- wish I could do business with Tim

  • @Sticks-of-TNT-tf1tn
    @Sticks-of-TNT-tf1tn 3 роки тому

    I admire Tim so much. Wish his shop was near me just so I could stop by and say hello. 🧨

  • @johnpappe3289
    @johnpappe3289 Рік тому

    Trust is another reason that Tim's shop was closer for me to do business with. I live in Washington state and I feel like a lone conservative sometimes.

  • @BHarris25
    @BHarris25 3 роки тому +1

    I couldn’t find any silver eagles for my buddies birthday so I got him a Morgan dollar dated 1900, he loved it.

  • @ronproietti6050
    @ronproietti6050 3 роки тому +3

    I have a question,, you talk about eagles or Maple leafs, how about buffalo"s, are they not in the same ball park ?? Thanks

  • @robertkeating1899
    @robertkeating1899 3 роки тому +2

    Another great one with tim

  • @myrongunnar1518
    @myrongunnar1518 3 роки тому +2

    He's a real American, and he needs to be supported by real Americans--- We love our Brother!! And he stands for all AMERICANS!! ! He's a Real American, and a real hero!

  • @Eli-qr9hc
    @Eli-qr9hc 3 роки тому +1

    Great great topic of a continuing discussion by so many stackers. Coins vs rounds as the prices rise

  • @Cache73
    @Cache73 3 роки тому +1

    Yankee you rock... Tim thanks.

  • @captvic5956
    @captvic5956 3 роки тому +4

    Gotta love Tim!

  • @TheQuickSilver101
    @TheQuickSilver101 3 роки тому +5

    It's crazy how much the market has changed in such a short time. Thanks for sharing, Yankee!

  • @MidnightCrash
    @MidnightCrash 2 роки тому +1

    This is a very smart man! God bless this patriot.

  • @beachmama9037
    @beachmama9037 3 роки тому +1

    I wish Tim was my LCS. Great video once again.

  • @metamaskman6614
    @metamaskman6614 3 роки тому +2

    Lovely video!

  • @JohnThompson-hc8bd
    @JohnThompson-hc8bd 3 роки тому +1

    In the long run I don’t think it matters. I buy anything and everything as long as it’s a good price.

  • @ministryofmetals2462
    @ministryofmetals2462 3 роки тому +2

    In a world where everything of value has been counterfeited, I dont see how people trust and pay more for a generic bar or round. Personally I trust jewellery more then bars and coins. A gold ring or bracelet etc is easier to tell if it's real compared to a silver round or bar by the craftsmanship..

  • @realfubar6238
    @realfubar6238 3 роки тому +5

    Tim! Tim! Tim! Tim's awesome.

  • @LittleGidget1
    @LittleGidget1 3 роки тому +11

    Silver is grossly under priced. They’ve done it on purpose. Control

  • @wisconsinscratches4534
    @wisconsinscratches4534 3 роки тому +1

    great video. tnx yankee and tim.

  • @scantcity8426
    @scantcity8426 3 роки тому +2

    Tim is a good Man!

  • @stevewoods8116
    @stevewoods8116 3 роки тому +2

    Tim is awesome, wish he was my LCS!!!!! Thank You Yankee!!!!!!!!!!