Me too! I think it is so honorable. Also, they are probably finding out so much more that wasn't brought into court that should have been, probably outrages them even more so. They can't use that going forward in any court proceedings but can say hey, we all agreed not guilty on count 1 and 3!
I was a cop for 24 years. I retired in 93 at the rank of Chief of Police. Had I bought my States Attorney a case like that in the Karen Read case with no chain of evidence, I would have been told to get the hell out of his office and come back when I had a real case. If anyone in my Department had behaved like the keystone cops in this case I would have had a lot of openings on my PD. We had no boards, I had the hire fire power, and could fire an officer on the spot, and in fact did just that on several occasions where officers broke policy and in some cases the law.
No chain of custody for the evidence? Where were the chain of custody issues? Despite a poor presentation, the jury voted to convict 9-3 on the dui/manslaughter charge. Sounds to me that they did have a "real" case.
I just retired from 34+ years as a prosecutor with LA County. I COMPLETELY blame Morrissey. We are GATEKEEPERS OF THE BS. He knew better and I am so embarrassed for him.
Thank you Mike for having Rob on your show! It has been frustrating to see other retired FBI agents on Twitter defend the lack of a search warrant at 34 Fairview Rd, not securing the scene, the improper evidence collection, etc. It was also nice to hear another retired agent like myself call out Yuri Bukenic for not calling out Proctor’s improper behavior. Thank you so much for having a retired agent on that has not lost sight of the integrity that is expected of law enforcement.
Are there people, most importantly FBI agents active or retired, that are seriously “DEFENDING” this detective and other officers that have proven corruption in this case? That is unbelievable! Thank God there are good people like Rob coming forward! I’ve never been more disheartened with law enforcement as I am now. Canton, MA officers have really opened people’s eyes about dirty cops. Hope they are proud of themselves 😒😡 Thank God for good people like Rob, because my hope for good officers out there has been greatly diminished thanks to those goons in Canton, MA. And you know this happens everywhere!
Thank you for helping this world be a better and safer place during your time at the FBI! Very impressive, it isn’t just anyone that gets hired by them. 😊
@@SierraOneConsulting Loved hearing your commentary! Thank you for your honorable service and thank you for influencing future LE. My oldest is laser-focused on the FBI, and I am grateful to have communities like this one where he can learn and interact with his career heroes who are fairly inaccessible in real life!
Thank you to Agent D'Amico for his service to our country & such a breath of fresh air to hear a qualified, intelligent fbi agent speak unlike the other one we hear.
God, I wish I could have sat on that jury! I didn’t know a thing about the case-I just hadn’t had time. I listened to both sides with an open mind. There is no way in hell anyone could listen and not come up with not guilty! I can’t even comprehend it! I just wonder if they were confused by the verdict forms? I just can’t understand it. 🤦🏼♀️ I know in the motion filed today, it was mentioned that the man we all know is Brian Albert, intimidated that damn jury! It’s now a fact! They should have NEVER been allowed to stare at the jury like that! That “mcalbert” family are terrible people-all of them! Good luck with the FBI, “Mcalberts”; they won’t fall for your b s and it’s already started with Proctor. I think it’s funny his wife yelled at the reporter “ I fully support my husband”-well, now you sure do, sweetheart; even financially 😂😂😂🤦🏼♀️
Finally somebody says something about the absurd claims of the "perp" backing up at 25 mph and hitting somebody----but he left out "without the slightest dent in the cars sheet-metal", and without a bruise or broken bone on legs, torso or arms.... The Masshole Proctor said he had it alll figured out just a few hours after he got the case....Before he investigated a thing..
I think he is being nice and hoping to give her the benefit of the doubt. People that know what she is about realize she just really sucks and is aware with zero f’s to give. Especially anyone who witnessed the Sargent Chesna shit show of a trial.
Oh wow! I had no idea. I just realized I haven't seen Harvard Lee in awhile. Just Lee, or attorney Lee. That is crap, she is way more honorable and unbiased compared to Coffindaffer.
I’m not a big supporter of people using FBI in that manner either but I don’t think you will see them insisting she take it out. I feel it was part of my life but not my identity.
A rose by any other name would smell as sweet … Lawyer Lee really emphasizes member education as she examines the progress of the trial. Especially the differences between the federal system and the Mass. system.
The saddest part, of course, is the death of John O'Keefe. A close second is the ignorance of the O'Keefe family, and the family literally befriending the murderers, and those who helped cover it up.
It's called Cognitive dissonance. They are SO emotionally invested in KR being guilty and that the McAlberts are their friends, that they can't see their way out. It's sad, BUT the facts are facts. I wish they could see it.
Omg just stop you act like you know the family. you have no idea who they are and what their life was before JO was murdered You people are just ignorant
@@ringring6618 I don't have to know the family. I watched the trial. I know the facts. Then watched Paul on camera said his beliefs were. They do not match up with the truth. That's literally the very definition of cognitive dissonance. They can't see or accept the truth. I'm not talking to them or bothering them. I'm engaging in a conversation about them.
@@SierraOneConsulting thank you!! It was an absolute pleasure to watch you & Atty Bederow interact last night I'm a retired ER rn came into this saga convinced KR was guilty based on my cynical disposition EMS by default backs the blue it took me about 5 minutes to realize something was seriously wrong in Canton By chance I caught Mike & Atty Bederow & have been following them ever since Will be looking out for your continued input
And don’t forget their little responses on the group chat! There were officers on that chat, and they said terrible things too! Maybe “Proctaaa” will get mad and bust out the truth-if he’s any kind of real man, now is his chance.
Trooper Gallagher I believe, said they broke the taillight when removing it. I wish they would have explored this more. If nothing else, the pictures are misleading. A crack is not a complete destruction of a taillight that is made to not shatter.
This was the best show yet!! I really enjoyed Rob FBI. I absolutely love mr Bederow. He is always so kind when explaining bad behavior and people!!! He will make a very HONORABLE JUDGE someday!
It is very instructive to every community, and individual, the power of “the state” is enormous, even in small towns. Many aspects of this case are so troubling.
My question is for Rob.... What do you think about the fact that Brian Albert NEVER even came out of his house when a fellow officer and supposed friend was found on his front lawn?
@@LeannaMurphy-mx7zyThe dog would have Barked his arse off !!!🐾? People in MA are nosey and don't miss a trick. JOs head would have to hit the curb, then his body bounce up onto the lawn Where's his shoe? Buried w his belt and the dog?
She is guil😢if drunkeness, lies and fornication.. She is innocent in JOK death. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 King James Version 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
@Heseesyou every person/witness that testified that night said that Karen Read was not drunk, she did not seem drunk at all they said. Also, just curious what she lied about?
Rob; The FBI has all the taxpayers money to do extensive & thorough investigations and always does. Rob; I wasn’t convinced initially, but now believe someone may have planted evidence. (But apparently the FBI disagrees) Rob; I think some people may be disappointed with the outcome of the FBI investigation.???what??! After almost a year of their “thorough investigation “ and over 3,000 page report, no one was arrested for planting evidence or covering up a crime. Rob= another scatter brained clout chaser with zero integrity.
@leannabedore please do some research on judgement. Particularly , Ham's Curse due to judgement on his fathers drunkenness, KIng David's wife Micah who looked upon her husband and despised him, she was barren for the restbof her life, Jesus teaching in casting the first stone if judgement at the prostitute.
@@leannabedore Her own words “ I’ve started drinking” at 2:46pm that day. Caught on camera downing 9 shots plus initial vodka soda. Functioning alcoholics never look drunk regardless of how much they drink.
This was a fabulous panel! I am a retired trial lawyer who practiced for 33 years. I have a serious fan gurl crush on Attorney Bederow and Retired FBI Agent Rob D’Amico! They are so professional and ethical! Mazza’s remarks are always on point and give a great “person on the street” view. Mike is the perfect host! Thanks, Guys!
Judge Cannone should be completely humiliated with her incompetency with this trial! Does she EVEN KNOW what she's doing????? Geez, it sure doesn't seem like it! I watched most of the trial- and it SHOWS!!!! What a joke these charges have been and this trial has been! 😳🤔🤨🙄🤬
In my opinion, she knows exactly what she’s doing! She was clearly sabotaging the defense. any BS Lally presented she allowed in and she consistently denied the defense “real”evidence… it was so infuriating, watching her be so unethical and biased! IMO…
Mike you don’t get enough credit man you’re handsome too! Always talking up your boys but cmon now a little self love too. Great show tonight. Great day for Karen, excited to see moving forward.
After hearing the REAL reconstruction experts, I cannot fathom ANY juror being able to find anything BUT reasonable doubt on John being hit by Karen's car! Not to mention, the clear fact that she was at John's house at the time he was supposedly hit!
They didn’t check the box because there was no box. Remember Bev would not allow a NG box for the lesser counts. The exact problem Jackson was arguing about happened.
There were boxes. If anything, it was Bev's instructions that shit the bed. Her words were, "After the final vote of the jury, the foreperson should check the appropriate boxes on each charge and notify the court thay you have reached a unanimous verdict." They were instructed to fill out the verdict sheets after the final vote, reaching a unanimous verdict. Their final vote was not unanimous. They should have been instructed to check the box for any charge in which they reached a unanimous verdict.
@@archangel807 So does this explain that she did not in the end ? or she just did not even read the fact that they voted NO on 2 counts. and she did not allow defense to see what jury wrote.
I think she did give them the paper changed and added not guilty but it was still confusing. And she picked the foreperson and if she put a cop in that position and HE didn’t mark the paper…that’s between him and aunt Bev being corrupt.
I believe he said “I checked and nothing on it”. Left it at that. Why wouldn’t the MSP detective unit say, “ you we still need to review.” As it was there fng job to do. Lots of missing camera footage in Canton that night! Yet, they spent a lot of time reviewing Waterfall and CF McCarthy video? Why? That’s not where he was killed.
What bothers me is Karen's BAC taken 9 hours after being at the bar, when she could have been drinking at home, waiting for John, was admitted as evidence that she drove drunk! There's no way it would be admissible in court for a DUI charge!
Even worse, in front of a house owned by a cop and filled with more than just one cop, knowing that they are anticipating your arrival?! No one would ever do that.
KR had a pattern of making tons of phone calls to JOK when KR was upset. That pattern did not change after KR left 34 Fairview and travelled to JOKs house. Goes to her having no idea he was injured. Evidence failed to show JOK was hit by a car. Good job on analysis you guys! I’m a new fan.
There is no reason Karen dropped John off at the flagpole. Why would she do that . She had to drop him off at the driveway. Then pulled up at wait for word. Got mad and left.
The “mcalberts” timeline also doesn’t make sense. I guess people left the party, and passed right by a dead body in the yard? It makes ZERO sense. I want the FBI to put all this to an end. There are a lot of guilty people in two families walking around free right now. That’s terrifying.
I do NOT feel sorry for Trooper Paul being on the stand and being humiliated. He's a highly paid trooper that's supposedly a professional about what he's attesting to that could send a woman to prison for decades. Jesus, yeah he looked like a scared puppy, but wtf? I like these guests, but feeling sorry for him because he looked like a confused child is nuts.
@@SierraOneConsulting its a reference to the experts that testified to the crime scene reconstruction! All of them were soo impressive, someone called them the “crash daddys” in the media and it stuck. Its a compliment to those that blow you away with their expertise!!
@@SierraOneConsulting sorry Rob when the guys from Arrca were on the stand damn near all of us on line started commenting about not only were these guys intelligent they were quite handsome as well Within minutes someone coined them the "Crash Daddys" secondary to them being crash experts and handsome 😉
Mr. D'Amico sir, thank you so much for doing this appearance and for your insight! But please don't feel TOO bad for Lally. Yes, he was handed this investigation, but no one forced him to spend over 6 weeks of the trial on what, if anything, the weather was doing and what people were eating on the night JO'K died. - Regarding the jury revelations of the past day, I feel a lot of this goes back to Bev: she was the one who gave the defense a hard time about the verdict form, didn't explain the jury instructions clearly enough to the jurors, didn't give the lawyers a chance to speak before declaring a mistrial, didn't even BOTHER to poll the jury after the trial ... the list goes on and on and on. If there is truly any justice, Bev will come under fire for forcing this farce of a trial to happen in the first place.
Jurors said they were antimidated by the way town bullies being there how sad they should of never been allowed in that court They kept turtle boy out yet the Albert’s assaulted him on camera Bullies that’s all they are they all belong in jail
@kaykay7420 I hope the jury has now seen the coverage on how they (the mob) treated him and assaulted him. Can you imagine John Okeefe by himself, having had a bit to drink, in the dark, snowy night.
They did screw around with the taillight! Aussie Insider has an enhanced video of them doing so in the sally port! I feel like not enough people have seen this! FKR! 💝
Omg I’m going to look now! This is all so ridiculous and it’s infuriating! People better open their eyes-this could happen to any of us! In any small town, USA where powerful people run the town, they can do anything they want!
@debshirey6285 Yes, that one too! The video I was pointing out is actually the one she posted 2 months ago. It’s called “Sallyport Enhanced Footage.” It’s worth seeing. All of her videos are great.
@greeneyedsoutherngirl6468 Yes, it’s scary to think about. The video I was pointing to was posted 2 months ago, I mistakenly said 1 month ago. Sorry for any confusion.
They have tried to help her already by giving over 3000 pages of information from their investigation to both sides thinking it would make the Commonwealth stop this sham. The Feds will likely do what they can for her without compromising their investigation until it is completed. They also don’t have the jurisdiction to do much aside from what they are doing according to some lawyers I’ve watched
I can’t believe how this case has made it around the world So e of the places I never heard of From figi to England Ireland Germany Canada Africa all over are saying Karen Rwad is not guility
Electronic data really isn't subjective. I find it disingenuous and dangerous for "experts" to use outdated software in their analysis and purport it is accurate. Complete garbage! Of course you have to use updated software every IT Admin worth their weight in salt knows this.
@@networkedjustice yes I agree if you are using even one version behind the current one there are always going to be issues even if they aren’t genuine. But some electronic data is subjective and it really depends on who the jury gives more clout too. That’s why their credentials matter. I only trust the cyber folks in my company to truly give me the truth but in their eyes and I know where their eyes have been.
1. Cannone repeatedly sustained nearly every objection Lally made, with never a reason. Many of which were unnecessary objections. 2. Her connection to the Alberts should be in question. 3. Chris Albert told Aiden they would bury him under "Auntie Bev's" beach house. 4. Any judge with a close connection to a family where a dead cop is found in their front yard, must recuse herself... obviously so there is no question regarding her possible bias. 5. Cannone yelling at Karen just for smiling is showing bias. She has no idea what caused the smile. Yanetti could have said something to her humorous...
So, if anyone is interested, Turtle boy made a call months and months ago to the Julie lady. Well, Julie slips up in that call regarding Colin. She screams “Colin was in the house prior to John!”, and adds some obscenities. I can’t believe no one used that call, or maybe they didn’t pick up what she said. John was definitely in that house that night!
As the sister of a murder victim, I understand the O’Keefes tunnel vision and anger I truly do. I have been there I’ve gone through the same thing as Paul O. I just don’t understand how he can defend any of this. Much less publicly defend the very man and agency who botched his brothers investigation so badly. I would have been screaming to the rooftops for answers.
Paul and Mom party at the MCAlberts beach house. They LOVE the BPD and MSP and collect John's $Pension and Death benefits$$......will never mess with the $$
The most mind blowing thing for me, is the fact that the DA came out n said publicly they cannot wait to retry the case!!! After THIS comes out??? Can you say lack of awareness!! Or they plain stupid?
The fact that they are attorneys/ prosecutors they must know she’s innocent. It’s unbelievable that so many people are happy sending an innocent woman to jail for life. 😡🇬🇧🇬🇧
The FBI Agent, said if Karen had researched "how to hit someone with a car would show intent". You mean like McCabe's Google search, "Hos long to die in the cold?"
Thank you so much, Rob D'Amico for being who you are. We, the People sure wish our justice system still worked the way it should, and have the same ethics and morals that you do. Unfortunately, since Obama and democrat rule, you are a precious rarity.
Love Rob, but disagree with feeling sorry for ADA Lally. He entered zero digital evidence that was verified, no metadata on ANY photos/screenshots/video footage, no chain of custody for any physical evidence and he knowingly/willingly tried to pass off flipped CCTV from Sallyport as genuine evidence of the WRONG side of the Lexus!!
I started this the same way. You get things. Watch the rest of the panel/expressions. Read the comments. All love and admiration. Yet, something’s he should know doesn’t. This isn’t new news. Maybe I’m jaded, but i dunno.
He lied about allot of things. time he took Karens car in his possession.. so he can break the light . spread the pieces and pretend he did not have her car in his possession before the pieces were found.
The judge sealed the jury's IDs for the next 10 days! That would prevent the lawyers from contacting them for more evidence, wouldn't it? The judge is looking more sketchy!
Both the defense and prosecution were barred from contacting the jurors before she sealed the names. I think sealing the names was the smartest things she's done in this case. It prevents anyone from intimidating them.
Rob D’amico was a GREAT guest! Thank you for having him. This is what a former FBI agent should sound like, IMO. His understanding & belief in Blackstone’s ratio (the heart of our judicial system) warmed my cynical heart. The whole investigation was absolute 💩. As a former/potential juror, I was out with the solo cups, the crime scene not secured, the “revealing” of the tail light over time, and most importantly, the LACK of chain of custody. I mean, we all learned that it the first season of Law & Order, ffs. The lies, the butt dials, the “rehoming” of the phones, etc…come on! The crash daddies were just icing on the cake. Science!
This is exactly why there should have been a NG box on each of the charges. Bev claimed “they just don’t check a box if she NG”. Okay so did the note they returned to her have a slip with it, with nothing checked of. Cuz that would mean NG. Bev should have known this.
I am proud of the jurors for standing up and saying something There verdict deserves to be heard
Me too! I think it is so honorable.
Also, they are probably finding out so much more that wasn't brought into court that should have been, probably outrages them even more so. They can't use that going forward in any court proceedings but can say hey, we all agreed not guilty on count 1 and 3!
Possibly one juror spoke. The other two stories were told by friend of a friends friend. Telephone game.
a 4th juror has come forward.@@enigma_-_79
@@enigma_-_79there are four who have come forward.
@@kaykay7420 I feel badly for the jurors
I served with Rob in Afghanistan. A great guy.
You must be a great guy yourself, thank you for your service in protecting America.
Thank you for your service🇺🇸
❤️
Thank you both so much for your service and your time away from your loved ones for this great country! 🇺🇸♥️
Thank you.
Didn’t B.A and B.H as well?
Probably different times and different units.
Marines?
I was a cop for 24 years. I retired in 93 at the rank of Chief of Police. Had I bought my States Attorney a case like that in the Karen Read case with no chain of evidence, I would have been told to get the hell out of his office and come back when I had a real case. If anyone in my Department had behaved like the keystone cops in this case I would have had a lot of openings on my PD. We had no boards, I had the hire fire power, and could fire an officer on the spot, and in fact did just that on several occasions where officers broke policy and in some cases the law.
Thank you sir what you said makes a lot of sense 👏
No chain of custody for the evidence? Where were the chain of custody issues?
Despite a poor presentation, the jury voted to convict 9-3 on the dui/manslaughter charge. Sounds to me that they did have a "real" case.
I just retired from 34+ years as a prosecutor with LA County. I COMPLETELY blame Morrissey. We are GATEKEEPERS OF THE BS. He knew better and I am so embarrassed for him.
Norfolk County Resident here😢
Its embarrasing and beyond pissed
The embarrassment is his to shoulder alone 😉
The rest of us…outrage & the drive to initiate change ❤⚖️🗳️
It should be possible to sue him for malicious prosecution. Not just Karen. Every taxpayer in MA.
@@prmpatti if you ever want to discuss on our show send over an email to mjcboston1@yahoo.com
The new opening line should be, "John O'Keefe was not hit by a car."
Thank you Mike for having Rob on your show! It has been frustrating to see other retired FBI agents on Twitter defend the lack of a search warrant at 34 Fairview Rd, not securing the scene, the improper evidence collection, etc. It was also nice to hear another retired agent like myself call out Yuri Bukenic for not calling out Proctor’s improper behavior. Thank you so much for having a retired agent on that has not lost sight of the integrity that is expected of law enforcement.
@@JodeneWeber yes a real FBI agent we can respect Not whatever the female we all know so well that finds people guility before trial
Are there people, most importantly FBI agents active or retired, that are seriously “DEFENDING” this detective and other officers that have proven corruption in this case? That is unbelievable! Thank God there are good people like Rob coming forward! I’ve never been more disheartened with law enforcement as I am now. Canton, MA officers have really opened people’s eyes about dirty cops. Hope they are proud of themselves 😒😡 Thank God for good people like Rob, because my hope for good officers out there has been greatly diminished thanks to those goons in Canton, MA. And you know this happens everywhere!
Thank you for helping this world be a better and safer place during your time at the FBI! Very impressive, it isn’t just anyone that gets hired by them. 😊
I’ve only seen one former FeeBee defend that. The hapless Coffindaffer.
I love Rob D'Amico! This is a real cop. And someone who has honorably served our country. Thank you for having him on.
@@mayarodriguezsrensen6904 thank you. It was a pleasure and fun to be on. Hope to be back.
Nothing better than listening to intelligent, articulate, brave men.
Thank you!
@@SierraOneConsultingawesome! Would love for you to join the show again and share your thoughts!
Now I know you're an idiot
@@SierraOneConsulting Loved hearing your commentary! Thank you for your honorable service and thank you for influencing future LE. My oldest is laser-focused on the FBI, and I am grateful to have communities like this one where he can learn and interact with his career heroes who are fairly inaccessible in real life!
Thank you to Agent D'Amico for his service to our country & such a breath of fresh air to hear a qualified, intelligent fbi agent speak unlike the other one we hear.
I never trusted the judge. Everything she did was suspect.
I didn't want to believe all the conspiracy against the judge, but it's too much.
Judge does not follow the laws. Retire Auntie Bev
I love Mark Bederow. Voice of reason.
He absolutely is... but then you have a nice host and nice Nurse kim and everybody is nice.
The poor jurors. What a nightmare case to sit on
God, I wish I could have sat on that jury! I didn’t know a thing about the case-I just hadn’t had time. I listened to both sides with an open mind. There is no way in hell anyone could listen and not come up with not guilty! I can’t even comprehend it! I just wonder if they were confused by the verdict forms? I just can’t understand it. 🤦🏼♀️ I know in the motion filed today, it was mentioned that the man we all know is Brian Albert, intimidated that damn jury! It’s now a fact! They should have NEVER been allowed to stare at the jury like that! That “mcalbert” family are terrible people-all of them! Good luck with the FBI, “Mcalberts”; they won’t fall for your b s and it’s already started with Proctor. I think it’s funny his wife yelled at the reporter “ I fully support my husband”-well, now you sure do, sweetheart; even financially 😂😂😂🤦🏼♀️
Mazza 💯 she dismissed that jury so quick to prevent action
100%
She heard the evidence. She’s protecting her own!
She’s chicken judge
Finally somebody says something about the absurd claims of the "perp" backing up at 25 mph and hitting somebody----but he left out "without the slightest dent in the cars sheet-metal", and without a bruise or broken bone on legs, torso or arms.... The Masshole Proctor said he had it alll figured out just a few hours after he got the case....Before he investigated a thing..
I didn’t have time to go into all the other things about that that didn’t make sense but yes you are correct!!!
Great guests tonight, Mike! Love the banter. Thanks you all! Congratulations! FREE Karen Read!
I think he is being nice and hoping to give her the benefit of the doubt.
People that know what she is about realize she just really sucks and is aware with zero f’s to give.
Especially anyone who witnessed the Sargent Chesna shit show of a trial.
Mark Bederow thanks for speaking out and sharing your views. You are so easy to listen to. Appreciate your comments very much!
Rob D'Amico is amazing. What an honest, great guy.
Just as Harvard warned Lee to cease using their name in her handle, the FBI should insist on Coffindaffer not using their name in her X handle.
It's on all of her social media, not just X
Oh wow! I had no idea. I just realized I haven't seen Harvard Lee in awhile. Just Lee, or attorney Lee. That is crap, she is way more honorable and unbiased compared to Coffindaffer.
I’m not a big supporter of people using FBI in that manner either but I don’t think you will see them insisting she take it out. I feel it was part of my life but not my identity.
A rose by any other name would smell as sweet … Lawyer Lee really emphasizes member education as she examines the progress of the trial. Especially the differences between the federal system and the Mass. system.
@@leannabedoreyou need to go look for lawyer Lee, she has put out some really awesome recaps daily on this case.❤
Karen will never take a plea ? Not in a million years because this is a case THE CW will never win? She's come too far to cave in?
Bev screwed up. Again.
ON purpose.
Sidebaa please
This is what happens when you rush to judgment
The jurors were told by Bev to NOT fill out a form until they agreed on all charges. Which seems more like Bev fucking up royally
The saddest part, of course, is the death of John O'Keefe. A close second is the ignorance of the O'Keefe family, and the family literally befriending the murderers, and those who helped cover it up.
It's called Cognitive dissonance. They are SO emotionally invested in KR being guilty and that the McAlberts are their friends, that they can't see their way out. It's sad, BUT the facts are facts. I wish they could see it.
@judykincaid4066 -- Once you allow HATE to take root in your heart, you'll never see the light.
Omg just stop you act like you know the family. you have no idea who they are and what their life was before JO was murdered You people are just ignorant
@@ringring6618 I don't have to know the family. I watched the trial. I know the facts. Then watched Paul on camera said his beliefs were. They do not match up with the truth. That's literally the very definition of cognitive dissonance. They can't see or accept the truth. I'm not talking to them or bothering them. I'm engaging in a conversation about them.
@@stellaallbright4750 exactly 💯
Bederow & D'Amico absolute rockstars 🤩
Thanks!!!
Omg now they are people who should be role models! They are to me!
@@SierraOneConsulting thank you!! It was an absolute pleasure to watch you & Atty Bederow interact last night I'm a retired ER rn came into this saga convinced KR was guilty based on my cynical disposition EMS by default backs the blue it took me about 5 minutes to realize something was seriously wrong in Canton By chance I caught Mike & Atty Bederow & have been following them ever since Will be looking out for your continued input
@@greeneyedsoutherngirl6468 Calling someone a Rockstar is a compliment to them being top of the class
It was lovely to have Nurse Kim .She is so pleasant ..lovely and cordial !!
Proctor’s supervisors were in the Sally port screwing with the car, they should be fired too.
Don’t forget the Canton PD that were there!
Why was the chief who was out on medical leave there all day?
And don’t forget their little responses on the group chat! There were officers on that chat, and they said terrible things too! Maybe “Proctaaa” will get mad and bust out the truth-if he’s any kind of real man, now is his chance.
Trooper Gallagher I believe, said they broke the taillight when removing it. I wish they would have explored this more. If nothing else, the pictures are misleading. A crack is not a complete destruction of a taillight that is made to not shatter.
@greeneyedsoutherngirl6468 -- Proctor's already proved to the world he isn't a "real man," he's a POS.
Sadly, he is only being punished for his text messages as of now.
This was the best show yet!! I really enjoyed Rob FBI. I absolutely love mr Bederow. He is always so kind when explaining bad behavior and people!!! He will make a very HONORABLE JUDGE someday!
I totally agree! Atty Bederow is a great attorney and a good man.
The prosecutor should NOT have taken this case to trial because of the shotty investigation!!!
Reminds me when Costanza goes all the way to the Hamptons! 😂
Shoddy
Absolutely.... shame on him. No integrity
The procecution had to bring the case to court, who else around to be used as a scrape goat.
It is very instructive to every community, and individual, the power of “the state” is enormous, even in small towns. Many aspects of this case are so troubling.
My question is for Rob.... What do you think about the fact that Brian Albert NEVER even came out of his house when a fellow officer and supposed friend was found on his front lawn?
I think it is very very odd. It is one more “flag”. One flag I understand but when there are so many I really thinks it leads to the big red flag.
What do you think the big red flag is?
@@LeannaMurphy-mx7zyThe dog would have Barked his arse off !!!🐾?
People in MA are nosey and don't miss a trick.
JOs head would have to hit the curb, then his body bounce up onto the lawn Where's his shoe? Buried w his belt and the dog?
That’s just one of many many flags😀
@@LeannaMurphy-mx7zy yes there are so many flags in this case!!!
Karen is not guilty of anything!!
She is guil😢if drunkeness, lies and fornication..
She is innocent in JOK death.
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
King James Version
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
@Heseesyou every person/witness that testified that night said that Karen Read was not drunk, she did not seem drunk at all they said. Also, just curious what she lied about?
Rob; The FBI has all the taxpayers money to do extensive & thorough investigations and always does.
Rob; I wasn’t convinced initially, but now believe someone may have planted evidence. (But apparently the FBI disagrees)
Rob; I think some people may be disappointed with the outcome of the FBI investigation.???what??!
After almost a year of their “thorough investigation “ and over 3,000 page report, no one was arrested for planting evidence or covering up a crime.
Rob= another scatter brained clout chaser with zero integrity.
@leannabedore please do some research on judgement. Particularly , Ham's Curse due to judgement on his fathers drunkenness, KIng David's wife Micah who looked upon her husband and despised him, she was barren for the restbof her life, Jesus teaching in casting the first stone if judgement at the prostitute.
@@leannabedore
Her own words “ I’ve started drinking” at 2:46pm that day.
Caught on camera downing 9 shots plus initial vodka soda.
Functioning alcoholics never look drunk regardless of how much they drink.
I love this so much! Everything about it. Today was a well-deserved dose of goodness for Karen Read. What a good day.
Good Job Agent D'Amico..Thank you for your Military Service and your impressive FBI career..
Bev definitely didn't like Karen or Jackson, that was obvious
She had nothing to do with his death. She shouldn't face any of the charges
I've had suspicions of foreperson since day 1 personally picked by Beverly cannone before the jury was even picked 😮 Beverly wants karen framed 100%
The whole WORLD is laughing at judge Bev. She vacations with all the controlling evil people in that town.
My hope is the FBI uncovers the real truth with what happened. This case is so frustrating.
This was a fabulous panel! I am a retired trial lawyer who practiced for 33 years. I have a serious fan gurl crush on Attorney Bederow and Retired FBI Agent Rob D’Amico! They are so professional and ethical! Mazza’s remarks are always on point and give a great “person on the street” view. Mike is the perfect host! Thanks, Guys!
😂😂😂 “gurl crush”… We all do! 🤣
Judge Cannone should be completely humiliated with her incompetency with this trial! Does she EVEN KNOW what she's doing????? Geez, it sure doesn't seem like it! I watched most of the trial- and it SHOWS!!!! What a joke these charges have been and this trial has been! 😳🤔🤨🙄🤬
All she cared about was leaving early
In my opinion, she knows exactly what she’s doing! She was clearly sabotaging the defense. any BS Lally presented she allowed in and she consistently denied the defense “real”evidence… it was so infuriating, watching her be so unethical and biased! IMO…
It’s impossible to humiliate the shameless….
@@kaykay7420like the jury, she was anxious to start her holiday weekend.
@@AnGel-k9l4sHer bias left me open mouthed so many times…….
This has been a fantastic show with top guests 👏 first time seeing Rob D'Àmico and hope to see him again SOON 😀
Mike you don’t get enough credit man you’re handsome too! Always talking up your boys but cmon now a little self love too. Great show tonight. Great day for Karen, excited to see moving forward.
This is so true! Mike, you’re a handsome man! Be proud of yourself!
Lookin’ sharp tonight Mike! Great panel!
After hearing the REAL reconstruction experts, I cannot fathom ANY juror being able to find anything BUT reasonable doubt on John being hit by Karen's car! Not to mention, the clear fact that she was at John's house at the time he was supposedly hit!
Lawyer you know and his dad said they HAve NEVER EVER had judge not share note w attorney first as well
Aunt Bev is to close to this case and she should have recused herself from the beginning… this whole trial and investigation was a shit show!
Thank you for reporting this.. Judge Bev is breaking all the rules i think..
Judge Bev court is a shit show
FREE KAREN READ
They didn’t check the box because there was no box. Remember Bev would not allow a NG box for the lesser counts. The exact problem Jackson was arguing about happened.
Bev was planning to check the boxes....what a snake
She only added extra wording right?
There were boxes. If anything, it was Bev's instructions that shit the bed. Her words were, "After the final vote of the jury, the foreperson should check the appropriate boxes on each charge and notify the court thay you have reached a unanimous verdict."
They were instructed to fill out the verdict sheets after the final vote, reaching a unanimous verdict. Their final vote was not unanimous.
They should have been instructed to check the box for any charge in which they reached a unanimous verdict.
@@archangel807 So does this explain that she did not in the end ? or she just did not even read the fact that they voted NO on 2 counts. and she did not allow defense to see what jury wrote.
I think she did give them the paper changed and added not guilty but it was still confusing. And she picked the foreperson and if she put a cop in that position and HE didn’t mark the paper…that’s between him and aunt Bev being corrupt.
Why didnt the Alberts find taillight pieces ? They lived there, coming and going everyday.
Don’t forget the deputy chief across the street.
Good point
@@LeannaMurphy-mx7zyWhose ring camera was conveniently broken.
I believe he said “I checked and nothing on it”.
Left it at that.
Why wouldn’t the MSP detective unit say, “ you we still need to review.” As it was there fng job to do.
Lots of missing camera footage in Canton that night!
Yet, they spent a lot of time reviewing Waterfall and CF McCarthy video?
Why? That’s not where he was killed.
The crime scene was purposely NOT done correctly! It was a coverup from the beginning 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
Exactly!
Yes, from day one
Lucky for trooper Paul some of the jury were on his level
What bothers me is Karen's BAC taken 9 hours after being at the bar, when she could have been drinking at home, waiting for John, was admitted as evidence that she drove drunk! There's no way it would be admissible in court for a DUI charge!
100 percent!!
You cannot “estimate” what a persons bac was!
Preposterous!
Even worse, in front of a house owned by a cop and filled with more than just one cop, knowing that they are anticipating your arrival?! No one would ever do that.
KR had a pattern of making tons of phone calls to JOK when KR was upset. That pattern did not change after KR left 34 Fairview and travelled to JOKs house. Goes to her having no idea he was injured. Evidence failed to show JOK was hit by a car. Good job on analysis you guys! I’m a new fan.
Rob was a great guest 😊
Really great panel tonight. Bederow is an outstanding lawyer and his mind works like a writer -he’s so clever and quick.
There is no reason Karen dropped John off at the flagpole. Why would she do that . She had to drop him off at the driveway. Then pulled up at wait for word. Got mad and left.
True true
That's a very good point! I didn't think about that!
The “mcalberts” timeline also doesn’t make sense. I guess people left the party, and passed right by a dead body in the yard? It makes ZERO sense. I want the FBI to put all this to an end. There are a lot of guilty people in two families walking around free right now. That’s terrifying.
If they were arguing, she could have pulled up to let the truck pull behind her, but no reason to pull up, pull up more, and then pull up again.
It could have been blocked because everyone was showing up and the were leaving.
I do NOT feel sorry for Trooper Paul being on the stand and being humiliated. He's a highly paid trooper that's supposedly a professional about what he's attesting to that could send a woman to prison for decades.
Jesus, yeah he looked like a scared puppy, but wtf? I like these guests, but feeling sorry for him because he looked like a confused child is nuts.
Can't wait to see this show 😊
Wow Rob so impressive, intelligent and 🔥 like the crash Daddys must be an FBI thing
Sorry what is "the crash daddy"?
@@SierraOneConsulting its a reference to the experts that testified to the crime scene reconstruction! All of them were soo impressive, someone called them the “crash daddys” in the media and it stuck. Its a compliment to those that blow you away with their expertise!!
@@BostonMA781 oh gotcha and thank you. First time being called a crash daddy is a compliment haha
@@SierraOneConsulting sorry Rob when the guys from Arrca were on the stand damn near all of us on line started commenting about not only were these guys intelligent they were quite handsome as well Within minutes someone coined them the "Crash Daddys" secondary to them being crash experts and handsome 😉
Over 60,000 views! Great job Mike, Mark and Rob! Watching for the second time.
Ya gotta ❤ Atty Bederow "when you just gotta follow the jurors around in NY".... lol
Mr. D'Amico sir, thank you so much for doing this appearance and for your insight! But please don't feel TOO bad for Lally. Yes, he was handed this investigation, but no one forced him to spend over 6 weeks of the trial on what, if anything, the weather was doing and what people were eating on the night JO'K died. - Regarding the jury revelations of the past day, I feel a lot of this goes back to Bev: she was the one who gave the defense a hard time about the verdict form, didn't explain the jury instructions clearly enough to the jurors, didn't give the lawyers a chance to speak before declaring a mistrial, didn't even BOTHER to poll the jury after the trial ... the list goes on and on and on. If there is truly any justice, Bev will come under fire for forcing this farce of a trial to happen in the first place.
Evidently they felt confident they could get away with framing her! Why? Because they have done it before!!!
Absolutely
A great panel of men ! Thank you!
Jurors said they were antimidated by the way town bullies being there how sad they should of never been allowed in that court They kept turtle boy out yet the Albert’s assaulted him on camera Bullies that’s all they are they all belong in jail
@kaykay7420 I hope the jury has now seen the coverage on how they (the mob) treated him and assaulted him. Can you imagine John Okeefe by himself, having had a bit to drink, in the dark, snowy night.
From one DiMeco to another Thank you! HBD MIKE 🎉 MARK you rock too! Great show
So true!!!! If anyone in their right mind really thinks she’s guilty is insane. So much nonsense
All jurors should come forward. What’s stopping them ??
C Albert, he runs the town
@@sadiehughes6972 Well the jury voted 9-3 to convict on dui/manslaughter so why would Chris Albert be upset?
They did screw around with the taillight!
Aussie Insider has an enhanced video of them doing so in the sally port! I feel like not enough people have seen this! FKR! 💝
Specifically the one posted about a month ago. Most people haven’t seen this. It’s not the backwards sally port video.
Just saw this video how they could edit the colors of the Tail light to go from red to white. Smh
Omg I’m going to look now! This is all so ridiculous and it’s infuriating! People better open their eyes-this could happen to any of us! In any small town, USA where powerful people run the town, they can do anything they want!
@debshirey6285
Yes, that one too!
The video I was pointing out is actually the one she posted 2 months ago. It’s called “Sallyport Enhanced Footage.” It’s worth seeing. All of her videos are great.
@greeneyedsoutherngirl6468
Yes, it’s scary to think about.
The video I was pointing to was posted 2 months ago, I mistakenly said 1 month ago. Sorry for any confusion.
Can the FBI step in to help since her rights are clearly being violated
They have tried to help her already by giving over 3000 pages of information from their investigation to both sides thinking it would make the Commonwealth stop this sham. The Feds will likely do what they can for her without compromising their investigation until it is completed. They also don’t have the jurisdiction to do much aside from what they are doing according to some lawyers I’ve watched
The DOJ can
I can’t believe how this case has made it around the world So e of the places I never heard of From figi to England Ireland Germany Canada Africa all over are saying Karen Rwad is not guility
@@kaykay7420Correct. I'm on a farm in South Africa. Been following this trial intensely. Such shoddy legislative action hardly even happens here.
@@kaykay7420and lots of us from Australia 🇦🇺 👋
Electronic data really isn't subjective. I find it disingenuous and dangerous for "experts" to use outdated software in their analysis and purport it is accurate. Complete garbage! Of course you have to use updated software every IT Admin worth their weight in salt knows this.
@@networkedjustice yes I agree if you are using even one version behind the current one there are always going to be issues even if they aren’t genuine. But some electronic data is subjective and it really depends on who the jury gives more clout too. That’s why their credentials matter. I only trust the cyber folks in my company to truly give me the truth but in their eyes and I know where their eyes have been.
I 100% agree!! When they said peer reviewed I laughed out loud and stopped listening after that!
@@SierraOneConsulting
Could they please use your expert IF this goes to trial again?!! 😊
1. Cannone repeatedly sustained nearly every objection Lally made, with never a reason. Many of which were unnecessary objections.
2. Her connection to the Alberts should be in question.
3. Chris Albert told Aiden they would bury him under "Auntie Bev's" beach house.
4. Any judge with a close connection to a family where a dead cop is found in their front yard, must recuse herself... obviously so there is no question regarding her possible bias.
5. Cannone yelling at Karen just for smiling is showing bias. She has no idea what caused the smile. Yanetti could have said something to her humorous...
KR smile was on disbelief of the situation.
So, if anyone is interested, Turtle boy made a call months and months ago to the Julie lady. Well, Julie slips up in that call regarding Colin. She screams “Colin was in the house prior to John!”, and adds some obscenities. I can’t believe no one used that call, or maybe they didn’t pick up what she said. John was definitely in that house that night!
Allie said it too on the stand.....she left before John went in
That was Jill Daniels that said that. Jill is Julie Albert sister. Julie is married to Chris Albert.
I just noticed that the words on Attorney Bederow's shirt are backwards - is this inverted?! LOL! Great show!!
As the sister of a murder victim, I understand the O’Keefes tunnel vision and anger I truly do. I have been there I’ve gone through the same thing as Paul O. I just don’t understand how he can defend any of this. Much less publicly defend the very man and agency who botched his brothers investigation so badly. I would have been screaming to the rooftops for answers.
Paul and Mom party at the MCAlberts beach house. They LOVE the BPD and MSP and collect John's $Pension and Death benefits$$......will never mess with the $$
So very sorry for your loss! And for it to be murder just makes it so much worse. I hope justice was served for your sister 🙏🙏🙏
@@archangel807so horrible 😢
@@crystalwhitten9107thank you I truly appreciate that from the bottom of my heart ❤️
@@archangel807 and Paul collected the go fund me $$$$$
The most mind blowing thing for me, is the fact that the DA came out n said publicly they cannot wait to retry the case!!! After THIS comes out??? Can you say lack of awareness!! Or they plain stupid?
It’s quite shocking!
I think they have gotten away with this kind of 🐂 💩 for so long that they honestly think they're going to get away with it again.
.. delusional.
Stupid
Everybody keep praying for Karen.
@@wendydeane1627 🙏🏼🇺🇸🐢
Do we have PROSECUTORIAL AND JUDUCIAL MISCINDUCT ???
I didn’t even recognize Mike! 😆
And I want to ask Robert about a thousand questions. What a life! 🤯
Thanks. Like I said a “Forrest Gump” career.
@@SierraOneConsulting
Much respect and gratitude, Sir!
These jurors are going to be in law books
How did Albert and Higgins know they were going to receive a preservation order re their cellphones?
Too many coincidences…getting new phones or disposing of phone day before preservation order.
They're tip-off.
The fact that they are attorneys/ prosecutors they must know she’s innocent. It’s unbelievable that so many people are happy sending an innocent woman to jail for life. 😡🇬🇧🇬🇧
Mike, much better being able to see your face!!!!
Looking Good Mike❤️👊🏼🥰
Love Mr. D'Amico! I hope you have him on more often!
No, and you would not even ask " could I have hit him?" You would have sit in the bedroom and pretend nothing happened, like the Albert's did.
Very good point!
The FBI Agent, said if Karen had researched "how to hit someone with a car would show intent". You mean like McCabe's Google search, "Hos long to die in the cold?"
Exactly!
Thank you so much, Rob D'Amico for being who you are. We, the People sure wish our justice system still worked the way it should, and have the same ethics and morals that you do. Unfortunately, since Obama and democrat rule, you are a precious rarity.
Love Rob, but disagree with feeling sorry for ADA Lally. He entered zero digital evidence that was verified, no metadata on ANY photos/screenshots/video footage, no chain of custody for any physical evidence and he knowingly/willingly tried to pass off flipped CCTV from Sallyport as genuine evidence of the WRONG side of the Lexus!!
Meh
(Not to you)
Full respect there.
His disclosure of affiliation with the guy who spoke at Berkowitz retirement party… 😏
I started this the same way.
You get things.
Watch the rest of the panel/expressions.
Read the comments.
All love and admiration.
Yet, something’s he should know doesn’t.
This isn’t new news.
Maybe I’m jaded, but i dunno.
Lally, also misstated evidence, imo, Inexcusable.
Why was the jury a mistrial on her last case before Karen Reed I wonder if it was they didn't understand the instructions
Jen McCabe was a liar on that stand
Wicked witch of Canton.
I don’t feel bad for Trooper Paul because he lied about the key cycles. He should have admitted his mistake
He lied about allot of things. time he took Karens car in his possession.. so he can break the light . spread the pieces and pretend he did not have her car in his possession before the pieces were found.
He made up his testimony on the go.
@@georgewashington3555that was not trooper Paul😂
Amazing show!! Love the guests you have on. Keep up the great work!
Best show love listening to you!
This was a great panel! Amazing insight and knowledge! Thank you for always keeping it real.
When they investigated the crime scene, they didn't even go inside the house to check on the cop that lived there.
THIS!!! It’s mind-boggling that the house was not entered by ANY cops after John was found! 😡😡
So many of them committed perjury, but is the prosecution going to go after their own witnesses for perjury! Probably not!😡
I’m hoping that the FBI will use this as a starting point, perjury, obstruction of justice and conspiracy, to start indicting them!
Paul was painful to watch! All of his cases need to be reviewed.
The judge sealed the jury's IDs for the next 10 days! That would prevent the lawyers from contacting them for more evidence, wouldn't it? The judge is looking more sketchy!
Both the defense and prosecution were barred from contacting the jurors before she sealed the names. I think sealing the names was the smartest things she's done in this case. It prevents anyone from intimidating them.
The jury however are free to approach anyone they want to....
She would have lied and said that she saw him go inside the house. If she was dishonest
Rob D’amico was a GREAT guest! Thank you for having him. This is what a former FBI agent should sound like, IMO. His understanding & belief in Blackstone’s ratio (the heart of our judicial system) warmed my cynical heart.
The whole investigation was absolute 💩. As a former/potential juror, I was out with the solo cups, the crime scene not secured, the “revealing” of the tail light over time, and most importantly, the LACK of chain of custody. I mean, we all learned that it the first season of Law & Order, ffs. The lies, the butt dials, the “rehoming” of the phones, etc…come on! The crash daddies were just icing on the cake. Science!
Can someone tell me HOW it even went to trial considering the mess of the investigation
Watching on the re-watch, great show!!
😂😂I watched series “Jury Duty” and said to myself is this real😂😂😂😂,Re;Trooper Paul 1
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I watch but never comment, loved the show tonight. Watching in the Uk 🇬🇧 xx
Amazing guests and their analyses.
This is exactly why there should have been a NG box on each of the charges. Bev claimed “they just don’t check a box if she NG”. Okay so did the note they returned to her have a slip with it, with nothing checked of. Cuz that would mean NG. Bev should have known this.