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Basically no one in that room knows what the hell is going on. Lol!
😂😂😂
Both centers will be here. Thibs values 48 minutes of rim protection and in Chicago they were not only paying Noah but Asik was one of the highest paid backup centers in the league. Precious is much better as a backup 4 to Randle.
Totally agree 💯
I think one of the guys will be in the package for a big trade.
THAT would be really nice to have both centers... we'll see
If IHart wants more then 10 mill In FA then he ain’t gonna be here
@@reisanderson9069 They can pay him $16M, they have early bird rights
Who cares what mello thinks. The knicks messed their future up trading half the team for him.
cant blame melo for that one. dolan sure.
I agree with you bro
That was his fault?
They traded a pu pu platter for him. They messed up when they signed STAT and didnt use the amnesty on him and then bargs
You are a 1000℅ correction that, that team was good and getting better, James Dolan did that damage
I just want a full season with everybody healthy to see how far this current team can go.
That's what we all WANT, will it ever happen.... we'll see.
Preach
Me too
I honestly don't want Precious as a backup 5. I want him backing up the 4.
he is a fine 3rd C to use in small ball but he is ore of a backup 4
This team will not be under the cap again until it's rebuild time and being in the largest market in America, having to pay the luxury tax doesn't mean anything. Dolan has shown that he's willing to do that. With that being the case, the only reasons to get rid of either is if you need to use their salary in a trade, or if I-Hart becomes a free agent and the asking price goes way above his actual value. Other than that, you use the loophole of being able to sign your own players and go over the cap. The additions to this team have to come via trade. The free agency ship has sailed, and along with it, nearly any need to be frugal.
Precious is not a 5, he’s a true 4. His game is that of a 4. I would caution putting him as a backup 5 long term.
Keeping Mitchell!!! 🦾 Defense allday!
Never available long term on the court, plus one dimensional. Keep both or I Hart
IHart is about as good a defender, a better total rebounder, good shot blocker, great passer, really key to the Knicks success.
The Knicks got rid of the youth now they going to rely on free agents. JSimm need to develop
they have draft picks to use
@@KnicksFanTV I heard they have a few
@@KnicksFanTVagreed they have draft picks but don't have a system that develop them to star player
It bothers me hearing folks talking out their rear… all 3 obviously dont watch all 48min like we do
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Joe Burdens jumping out the window😂
😂😂😂
Taj not even on the team. I-HART is an unrestricted free agent so they'd have to move quickly to trade one or the other.
C p you're boring helping me the birds ain't doing nothing neither c p
I like Melo and Kid Mero but that podcast is meh.
If I had to pick 1 I would keep Mitch..just bc we NEED him more for matchups! Embid, Giannis will cook I Hart in the playoffs..plus Precious has shown he has a similar skill set per usual CP is on point..need to match body for body!In my honest opinion small ball doesn't work unless you have the greatest shooter of all time btw if we had a healthy Mitch against the Warriors I think we win that game
Giannis, Embiid AND Bam will all cook Mitch.
I would like to see the Knicks, for the first time, go into the luxury tax area for a year and (possibly) win a championship with this team next year and dump salaries next year and still maintain their high position for awhile afterwards.
Mero is annoying
The bad thing about this is you know Mitchell Robinson will get injured again. Knicks need to plan for that in the off-season because it’s inevitable
I don't respect too many things at Carmelo Anthony talks about. The reason we got rid of Grimes is so we can have money to sign Harkenstein
Bro you keep both. You can easily. IHart will take less money to, watch. Precious is gone
Dolan has money. He can afford to pay to have a contending team. Mitch and IHart make less than Embiid.
I agree Mitch will be traded this summer, that can be the best thing for him and have a playmaking guard or wing that knows how to keep a Big engaged
Unless I hart falls off a cliff or the Achilles becomes a problem he going to get money thrown at him
This is not your responsibility leave it a lone Lad.
Seems if you taking Mr Rose 🌹 job,men stop making a fool of yourself
Ihart is clearly better then Mitch even at 20 million if Thibs does not destroy his achilles
His achilles was a problem before he got here, nothign to do with Thibs
Thibs did not have to play IHart 82 games last year and then over play him when Mitch went down Thibs never gives his players a rest He does not manage each player differently depending on their specific condition. That is his job. He is so lazy. Its either you can play or you cannot. He makes U play even when you are injured or tired and has Rose trade you when complain to much like Grimes and Obi got dumped for nothing @@iec7587
I really hope they sign I Hart and keep both as injury with both is issue and Thibs values rim protection.
I'm keeping Mitch
I really like Mitch and there's no doubt of his defensive skills, but if you have to pick 1 of 2 I have to go with Iheart because of game in game out reliability overall....Not perfect but way better than Mitch. Plus his passing dimension plays perfectly with Jalen, Julius and Dante and the rest of the squad.
rather trade Mitch and keep precious on the cheap, or draft a rookie center to back up I-hart
the Knicks have the qualifying offer of 6 mil for Precious, but some team may swoop in with a bigger offer. considering on the Knicks his role is as the back-up PF, occasionally back-up C, we are looking at 15-18 MPG, so how much is Leon willing to pay for that? particularly since that could further affect the luxury tax apron and all the further trades/MLE signings.
far as I-Hart, Early Bird restricts the Knicks to offering him just over $13 mil, if memory serves. I think with the current market value it will take Hartenstein giving Leon the discount on his services in order for the Knicks to retain him.
I’d say at this point, Mitch is the surest thing to still be on the roster next season. but, let’s say, the Knicks are able to re-sign I-Hart, between him and Mitch (and with Mitch’s contract structured on the declining scale), we are talking about roughly 25 to 27 mil for two quality bigs. that’s some 16 to 18 million less than Rudy Gobert is making on his own, and we don’t even have to give up any first round picks to make it happen. also, I realize that now is far from perfect time to make an argument for the tandem at C, seeing as how the both of them have been out for extended periods, but I have to believe that 25-year-old pair of Mitch and I-Hart have enough in the tank to give us quality minutes. worst case scenario, they will be on very team-friendly contracts and could be leveraged in trades
WHY CARE ABOUT WHAT melo has to say concerning the Knicks 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯😡😡😡😡😡😡
GTFOH! Dead Wrong! Mitch ain’t going nowhere. What the hell does Melo know about Defense? Absolutely Nothing. This is comical.
Would anyone consider trading Julius and Mitch, maybe even a few firsts to LA for Lebron? Then keep Hartesntein and the rest and go for a chip? I'm not even a Lebron fan, but a chip is a chip..
Have to keep IHart. He's too important to the flow of the offense. Mitch clogging up the middle, keeps his man close to the basket and makes it hard for everyone else to work in the paint and get to the basket. Plus IHart has played good defense and easily out rebounds Mitch in total rebounds, plus those passes and assists. Remember how Bam destroyed Mitch in the playoffs. We don't need all of those offensive rebounds because the offense executes so well without Mitch. Oh and let's not forget Mitch doesn't run the court, can't set a good pick or pass. Doesn't have good court vision. Not going to win a championship with him.
The balancing act between having your players improve and being able to afford their improvement is crazy. IQ was traded because he was too good. Hartenstein is the better option because of health. Mitch’s availability is unreliable.
Mitch is too much of a gamble. He hasn’t had one season where he hasn’t been injured. The Knicks should go full steam ahead for Giannis. Love Spida but don’t think he can co-exist with Brunson.
I think you eventually trade Mitch, iHart has been playing out of his mind, Mitch when healthy is great, but has to stay healthy-ish, he also has a very attractive contract. Precious has proven himself so far, great backup. It’s a nice problem to have.
😂😂 honest, nobody on that panel knew what the hell they were talking about, including melo. really, it just depends on i-hart and the bag he is going to command in free agency, and whether or not the front office believes in the durability of mitch health wise moving forward...
Has Carmelo Anthony seen Mitchell Robinson next to OG question mark
At this point, idk who to keep. Mitch is injury prone and Hartenstein has a bad Achilles now. We need to revamp the center position through the draft at some point
Trade mitch some of you are nuts, knicks need to keep hartenstein
Knicks have names on the bench not talent other then Simms and Duece B and B are washed up old bums
Bodega does not play the number two position. Never has never will. And how many two Guards would have to sit in order for that to happen
I love mitch but he is always hurt and ihart has played enough to see a proof of concept with him so it makes the most sense .... if ihart can get that achilles right to keep him
They forgot DeVincenzo! Top 3 shooter! That was a very random conversation.
Maybe if Sims showed some type of potential we could just keep one until then one of the centers that you keep gets hurt then what happens
If you read his contract it goes down 1 million dollars every year
I'm keeping mitch... his defensive presents is more valuable then I-hart's offense
I Hart more valuable because his versatility affects us winning games
Hmm I don't know about that one. Ihart isn't a bad interior defender (not mitch level but not bad at all) and he's more mobile to the perimeter than Mitch. And on offense Ihart is way way better than Mitch.
his defense isnt much better and ihart is considerably better on the offensive end
So, the guys making the case for IHart, have got it right. He's more valuable than Mitch. With Mitch out, we became one of the best defensive teams in the NBA. IHart played great defense, blocking shots like a monster, grabbed 15-20 rebounds when healthy and the great passing, court vision and assists. Front office has already decided that he is staying, regardless of what happens with Mitch.
@@newyorkguy158 iHart's offense is so much better.
We can only pay him $16M.
With Mitch injury every year I believe he will be in a trade package
Family show lol. Those guys are Rated R. Like HBO in the 80s ; only showed at night. They can't lock up big money in a pair of centers who are role players.
Lol family show
I watched this podcast when it first came out and my first thought was "these guys have no idea what is going on with the team." I watch KFTV and Knicks Film Skool and I am way more informed.
salute!
Family show family show lol
Precious does not play the center position well
It looks like we might be in bad situation
WE KEEPING BOTH ,WHAT?
How?
@@KnicksFanTV convince hartenstein to get a pay cut till we finished paying Mitch , cause I really rather both but at the same time Mitch injury prone so i don’t what New York will do with his contract. If it’s anything that’s you can inform me about I’m all ears
Good conversation. People forget that this is a business. Mitch’s health is a major concern. I could see him being an asset in a trade. Hate to see him go though.
Sounds like The Three Stooges here
Our system is heavily based on having a rim protector. Our coach leans heavily into that organization of the team due to this, unless we trade for a better five, which is highly unrealistic, we should keep both of them.
Joe Budden should’ve made a song called “all the way wrong” cause that’s what he is here, and Melo saying “that’s a fact” killed me lol
Cp true that one might has to go
can someone explain the whole salary dump thing? like I heard it with Bojan a lot. like why is it good to have someone with a big salary when u want to go after a star? why would opposing teams be looking for someone with a big salary? do owners have a minimum they have to pay out to the roster?
Salaries in trades have to match within 15%. Because the assets going back in a trade for a star player (picks, young players) often don’t have the same kind of salary attached to them that a star would, you need a player that makes a chunk of money (preferably on an ending contract) to make things work with salaries.
Also length of contract comes into play
@@darkerknight7010 the 15% is an official rule?
@@darkerknight7010 thanks so much
They drunk cp
If they can only keep one, NY should focus on the player that makes them elite on at least one side of the ball. . With Mitch the Knicks are an elite defensive team - with iHart they are Not. On the flip-side - with iHart the NY are a better offensive team, but nowhere near elite. The teams that have a shot to win a chip either have elite shot-making or play lockdown defense.
The stats show - when healthy, the Knicks are way closer to being a lockdown defensive team than an elite offensive team.
The Knicks improved tremendously on defense when Mitch was out and their offense was very good too. Mitch is not an elite defender either. Bam destroyed him.
@@newyorkguy158 - the Knicks improvement on defense was not because Mitch was out. The OG trade had a lot more to do with it than Mitch being out of the lineup. You pair those two guys and you have both the paint and the perimeter locked down.
As far as Bam destroying Mitch - he was getting caught late on rotations - because Thibs kept having Mitch show on the perimeter to put length on their 3-point shooters and Spoelstra just kept designing the plays to draw the bigs out to the perimeter and dump the ball in the post for an easy dunk. Thats on Thibs being out-coached and not on Mitch doing what he is asked to do.
@@karlramsay9203 Mitch doesn't fit our new identity and style of play. He's a big liability on offense, because he clogs the paint. IHart is not a liability on offense or defense, he's an asset on both sides and perfectly fits with our offensive game. Especially given Mitch's injury history, I think the FO will choose IHart over Mitch, if one has to go. If both stay, IHart has to start.
@@newyorkguy158 - I agree 100% with you that Mitch is injury prone which is a cause for concern. But this idea that iHart fits our identity and style of play better could only be true if we building a high powered offensive team. We are not. That is not our identity and style. Statistically Mitch is one of the best shot blockers in the league - and definitely the best offensive rebounder. This idea that we are going to run an gun teams out the building is a pipe dream. The Tre Young style of basketball doesn't work. Mitch does all the things the average fan doesn't see or pay attention to (picks, box-out, tip-passes etc.). The final thing I will say is this - whether its Mitch or iHart, I trust this version of the FO to make the right decision for the team, as we try to overcome Boston (the gold-standard) in the east and compete for a chip.
@@karlramsay9203 I didn't say run and gun. Ball movement, player movement and pushing the ball upcourt whenever we can. Mitch doesn't fit that style of play. He can't shoot, so his man stays close to the basket. That clogs the paint for Randle and all cutters, OG, Donte, Precious, and makes it harder for Brunson to get to the basket. IHart is a very good defensive player and he can outrebound Mitch. Absolutely. Mitch can get more offensive rebounds but our 9-0 run without him and great winning record when he was out proved that we don't need those offensive rebounds to win, and IHart gets plenty of them too. Mitch doesn't fit our style of play which is tough defense, passing, cutting and ball movement.
1st Team: Brunson, Bojan, OG, Randle, Mitch---------insane. 2nd Team: Divencenzo, Burke, Hart, Achiuwa, Hartenstein. Simms, McBride, Toppin, 8 picks.
That would be the worst defensive backcourt in the league. Bojan is strictly a 3/4
This is old news
old for you, new for some. 👍
Isaiah Hartenstein is a pleasant surprise at how good he is and yet often leaves me questioning why he doesn't shoot the three.
When we match up against Lopez, Embiid, Porzingis and Joker Isaiah Hartenstein is the one I think can do that...Yet he plays within his own comfort zone of pass first play and that is what is charming about watching him play. Certainly if Isaiah Hartenstein could look to shoot the three not for himself rather for the spacing to Randle then we already have what we need and it would be a shame to lose him to a higher bidder.
Is it anymore redundant to have Divincenzo and Hart at the two as it is to have Mitch and Isaiah? Mitch has a greater upside yet two years in a row with injuries could you really just have him? Or could the losing really lead to a draft day trade up for Alex Sarr?
While we're losing I'd like to see Hartenstein take more three point shots. Not for himself rather for Randle.
Ihart use to take jumpers go look at his clippers high lights I think thibs made him cut down on that
@dennisthemenace855 💯💯💯
IHart took a few more 3PA with the Clips. Guess it's not in the gameplan here
I've been saying here for a long time now that IHart is not being used properly. He can space the floor and just as Precious is taking the 3, IHart should be taking a few a game.
Stop it CP
Stop what?
Melon should be on the team!
I Heart is out. We keep Mitch because he can’t demand big money because of his injury history.
Mitch bye bye told yalll
how so?
@@KnicksFanTV KARL ANTHONY TOWNS‼️‼️‼️I see something brewing up in the offseason…MITCH IS A SOLID DEFENDER NO OFFENSE Tho MAN AND HE STANDS UNDER THE BASKET WAITING FOR A LOB no Jumper no post moves nothing Myles Turner came in the league raw like Mitch what did he do..create a jumper post move Mitch not the answer…When Ihart was on his A game he was better but I think they getting KAT DIS OFFSEASON THINK SO…imagine that‼️
@@KnicksFanTVI think the FO has already decided this question in favor of IHart. Even if you think they are equal, which I don't, not at all, Mitch's injuries and lack of offensive improvement tip the scales in favor of IHart.
The way things are going in San Antonio Wemby is going to force his way Out !!!…… Mark my Words !!! He is not happy with the Team and the organization!!!
no chance
Wemby is staying in San Antonio lmfao
Melo didn’t even acknowledge Dante D. 😂 The Knicks record without Mitch are pretty good but Mitch is a Thibs guy. It’s I-Hart who goes.
IHart might get the bag
Knicks 9-0 run without Mitch and great record over twice as many games means IHart has won the position. Mitch's injuries and lack of an offensive game will put him in play after the season ends. Question is, will anyone want him?
ISO Melo Melo…Was one dimensional as a player and now on his podcast - THE SAME! He doesn’t break down the argument he started: who, what, where and why keep or trade I-Hart or Mitch just fluff Taj??? Come on now.
I love Melo, but it feels like Phil Jackson’s GM skills rubbed off on him… and did he say “start Bojan at the two”?
😂😂😂 yup
A 16 million dollar contract does not have that much value if the player is always injured, CP is so full of himself Does not actually know much about basketball
Yoooo I said the same thing..sometimes c.p just be talking..smh. lol
Melo shut up , my opinionkeep both , after the season , give hertinstein 17 million for 2024,2025 , than give him a max deal