Really good informs here. A little bit obsessed with the S4 mini, hopefully there are still some available when I can finally afford it. Still quite a ways down the road.
Hi NFC! Great work! I came across this video while researching picoPSUs and switching power supplies. I'd like to build a home lab with 4 to 6 small motherboards ideally running off of a single or two power supplies. The boards I have in mind are x79 motherboards (ITX and mini ATX form factors are potentials) that would run low power Xeons, low power GPUs and M.2 drives. Have you ever done a multi-motherboard cluster build?
Hey James! I haven't done exactly that, but you totally could achieve your goal using a single high power AC-DC PSU (like the Meanwell 1000w) and run your DC wires to your 6 motherboards with the DC-DC power supplies plugged in. That would totally work. Maybe buy something from J-Hack. Peace and good luck.
I own a r9 nano, I'm currently using it in a Silverstone ft03 mini case. So how exactly would I power my card using your case and this method of getting extra power. Can you clarify?
+Arekkusu The Great Well you might not need to depending on your total TDP. A HDPLEX + Dell PA-9E (or Voodoo Firebird 350w) might be a much more elegant, turnkey, solution. The point of this video demonstrates you can push a lot of juice through a 160w Pico, and if you are a modder looking to get more power out of a DC-DC PSU you can if you change some wires and check on heat. As far as the specifics, what would you like to know? I think I cover how I got everything running in the vid, so if I missed something specific let me know! Thanks!
+Not From Concentrate I was actually debating between the PA-9E and the XM3C3, paired with an HDPLEX. The GTX 970 is not very power hungry, so i figured I'd stick with the smaller brick, but is this wise?
+Hans Tang Sorry that I didn't see this earlier! I know you have it all figured out now, but for the sake of other UA-camrs, I have found that the PA-9E does power up a 65w CPU and a 970, but it does get quite hot. I would personally recommend the XM3C3 for long term gaming. The Voodoo 350 is cheaper, but it is MASSIVE and doesn't fit as easily in a backpack.
+Not From Concentrate Really? I didn't know it actually worked :P. Having a defective 970 really threw off my results. Regardless, with the amount of over clicking I'm doing the voodoo is still a better bet
+Not From Concentrate Thanks for sharing this info. about what you found out! A little help like that goes a long way. I'm trying to build Simulation Gaming Consoles and Workstations, getting to design custom cases and exploring possibilities, so this is a big help to me!
I think its a possibility. I've had systems peak that high on the HDPLEX, though most systems that I have a use for the HDPLEX average ~250 to 275 under load. You can comfortably power a GTX970 and a 6700K off an HDPLEX and Voodoo 350, which is alot of system.
Maybe, but there are better ways to power a 980ti in my opinion. The HDPLEX might be able to do it, but I have never owned a 980ti so I cant say for sure. However an HDPLEX can absolutely power a 1080ti, check it out: ua-cam.com/video/B6QUuniKJek/v-deo.html
If I say yes, do you promise to do all the necessary mods professionally so you don't burn down your house? If not, then please use the new HDPLEX 300 and the Dell 330 which is designed for your application. THANKS! :D
hey guys i was wondering if someone could help me. trying to figure out what brick i need. i have a -zotac z77 mini itx mobo, -i7 3770k -samsung 1tb msata -evga 750 sc 1gb -1600mhz 16gb ram does anyone know how much power this would draw in gaming. i baught a pico. i just need a power brick to finish the build
+Elijah Tichborne The Pico should work fine for that build. I would highly recommend their amazing 195w brick. It is super durable and runs like a champ without getting too hot. I think it might be the most reliable brick I have ever seen: www.mini-box.com/12v-16A-AC-DC-Power-Adapter
+not from concentrate hey mate could a xbox adapter be modded to work withe a pico? www.ebay.com.au/itm/220W-12V-US-AC-Adapter-Charger-Power-Supply-Cord-Cable-For-Xbox-One-NEW-/121808083729?hash=item1c5c53db11:g:IyEAAOSwwbdWPEAP if its possible maybe you could do a video? just seems like a real cheap option
They totally can--you just need to change the connector. I actually used to mod first gen 360 bricks for my Mini ITX systems because they were the highest amp, sturdiest bricks back in 2009. I might be able to make a video...
You would be looking at about a 330 average watt draw under load. You would need to replace the wires on the Pico, but it probably could be done. I would consider putting a heatsink and light airflow over your Pico.
There are ALOT of factors that go into that. Personally I would use 15AWG, though technically you want something a bit heavier. The problem is it will be really hard to work with thicker wire than 15 on the Pico. www.bluesea.com/support/articles/Circuit_Protection/1437/Part_1%3A_Choosing_the_Correct_Wire_Size_for_a_DC_Circuit
Not From Concentrate am i good to go with 14awg and will it fit with picos smallest conector that leads to SATA and MOLEX. Oh by the way linked article is helpfull but it doesnt give me final answers.
+ Not From Concentrate Hi is it really possible to draw 270 watts through an 150xt picopsu? Cause I am going to build a system with an amd a10 7850k ( 70-80 watts) and an r9 380 (190-225 watts) and want to know if this is possible too.
+PowerCraftLP I've not done any over voltage with the 150 XT--only the 160XT. You totally can run 270 through the 160XT, as I show in this video (and did back before I knew about HDPLEX). That being said, I recommend using the right tool for the job, and the HDPLEX + the Dell 330w or the Voodoo 350w bricks are the right tools for the job. You would have to do too much modding on the 150 to get it safe, and plus you would have to mod the connector for your GPU. With the HDPLEX, it will fit and run that combo right out the box. If you haven't committed on your CPU yet I would recommend looking at something 65w or under though, unless you aren't worried about high temps. Thanks and goodluck!!!
NFC, Love your videos! I'm wanting to power a 1080yi / 7700k with the new HDPLEX 400, and the internal 300w power supply. As long as I dont torture it, think it'l work? My other option is 2 Pico 160xts and a Meanwell 400w Thoughts?
I haven't had any luck powering the 1080ti off the Dell 330, or the HDPLEX AC/DC 300, and that is with CPU at 35w and some power limiting on the 1080ti. Although it averages 335w, it can peak too high. I'm testing an affordable idea for modders now, but in the meantime you need to look at the Eurocom 780, which is insanely expensive. Peace
Going 12v with Picos would work because there are TONS of high wattage 12v power supplies. Not alot of 19v solutions. But you need to be really careful because without a re-wire you could have wires melt in the Pico. I think the solution I am working on will be cleaner and I hope to have it tested soon.
also one last question, for bricks that output 19v such as the Dell brick, is the 160xt able to handle 19v in when it's rated for 12? or do you have to compensate in some way?
Totally possible. I just need an Aussie to order 100+ of them. Lemme know if you want to put up the cash and resell them. Aussies are my best customers. Peace!
hi I'm in the process of building a gaming PC still saving for the s4 mini, but since I have most everything else tried a couple tests with my rig in open air, I have a g3258 and a 750ti on a 160xt powered by a modded 203w Xbox 360 psu. the problem is the 2.5*5.5mm connector I soldered on melted when the GPU started pulling max wattage from my system, is there another connection I should use? something that can handle the wattage and the heat better so i don't burn down my house? haha I see you use 4 pin CPU connector is that what I should look into?
Yeah, use the 4 Pin DIN connections. Burning down your house isn't good! I have never had anywhere close a problem with the wattage you describe with the Din connections. PEACE
Your getting a 1 volts drop at that short of a distance. That's BAD. Means you've got that pico overloaded. It's only able to handle 160 watts. Don't burn your computer down lol!
Your videos are just AMAZING. I wish you sold your fantastic rigs on your online shop!
Really good informs here. A little bit obsessed with the S4 mini, hopefully there are still some available when I can finally afford it. Still quite a ways down the road.
Hi NFC! Great work! I came across this video while researching picoPSUs and switching power supplies. I'd like to build a home lab with 4 to 6 small motherboards ideally running off of a single or two power supplies. The boards I have in mind are x79 motherboards (ITX and mini ATX form factors are potentials) that would run low power Xeons, low power GPUs and M.2 drives. Have you ever done a multi-motherboard cluster build?
Hey James! I haven't done exactly that, but you totally could achieve your goal using a single high power AC-DC PSU (like the Meanwell 1000w) and run your DC wires to your 6 motherboards with the DC-DC power supplies plugged in. That would totally work. Maybe buy something from J-Hack. Peace and good luck.
Ive never seen the S4 Mini before, I love ITX form factor , but I cant see myself spending AUD$205 plus shipping on a tiny case like that
I own a r9 nano, I'm currently using it in a Silverstone ft03 mini case. So how exactly would I power my card using your case and this method of getting extra power. Can you clarify?
+Arekkusu The Great Well you might not need to depending on your total TDP. A HDPLEX + Dell PA-9E (or Voodoo Firebird 350w) might be a much more elegant, turnkey, solution. The point of this video demonstrates you can push a lot of juice through a 160w Pico, and if you are a modder looking to get more power out of a DC-DC PSU you can if you change some wires and check on heat. As far as the specifics, what would you like to know? I think I cover how I got everything running in the vid, so if I missed something specific let me know! Thanks!
+Not From Concentrate I was actually debating between the PA-9E and the XM3C3, paired with an HDPLEX. The GTX 970 is not very power hungry, so i figured I'd stick with the smaller brick, but is this wise?
+Hans Tang Sorry that I didn't see this earlier! I know you have it all figured out now, but for the sake of other UA-camrs, I have found that the PA-9E does power up a 65w CPU and a 970, but it does get quite hot. I would personally recommend the XM3C3 for long term gaming. The Voodoo 350 is cheaper, but it is MASSIVE and doesn't fit as easily in a backpack.
+Not From Concentrate Really? I didn't know it actually worked :P. Having a defective 970 really threw off my results. Regardless, with the amount of over clicking I'm doing the voodoo is still a better bet
+Not From Concentrate Thanks for sharing this info. about what you found out! A little help like that goes a long way. I'm trying to build Simulation Gaming Consoles and Workstations, getting to design custom cases and exploring possibilities, so this is a big help to me!
so, would it be possible to draw 350W off of a HDPLEX ?
I think its a possibility. I've had systems peak that high on the HDPLEX, though most systems that I have a use for the HDPLEX average ~250 to 275 under load. You can comfortably power a GTX970 and a 6700K off an HDPLEX and Voodoo 350, which is alot of system.
nice, I was just about to buy the S4 then I saw the price for shipping to france (75 bucks), I'm going to have to save another month I guess..
I can't help wondering, does 1year later as now, can this system run with gtx 980ti ?
Maybe, but there are better ways to power a 980ti in my opinion. The HDPLEX might be able to do it, but I have never owned a 980ti so I cant say for sure. However an HDPLEX can absolutely power a 1080ti, check it out: ua-cam.com/video/B6QUuniKJek/v-deo.html
Phenix HSIEH You can get the Gigabyte GTX 1070 Mini-ITX which is equivalent to the 980 ti give or take a frame per second.
Exactly.
If I say yes, do you promise to do all the necessary mods professionally so you don't burn down your house? If not, then please use the new HDPLEX 300 and the Dell 330 which is designed for your application. THANKS! :D
hey guys i was wondering if someone could help me. trying to figure out what brick i need. i have a
-zotac z77 mini itx mobo,
-i7 3770k
-samsung 1tb msata
-evga 750 sc 1gb
-1600mhz 16gb ram
does anyone know how much power this would draw in gaming. i baught a pico. i just need a power brick to finish the build
+Elijah Tichborne The Pico should work fine for that build. I would highly recommend their amazing 195w brick. It is super durable and runs like a champ without getting too hot. I think it might be the most reliable brick I have ever seen: www.mini-box.com/12v-16A-AC-DC-Power-Adapter
chears for getting back to me mate. and thanks for the vids, really helps.
+not from concentrate
hey mate could a xbox adapter be modded to work withe a pico?
www.ebay.com.au/itm/220W-12V-US-AC-Adapter-Charger-Power-Supply-Cord-Cable-For-Xbox-One-NEW-/121808083729?hash=item1c5c53db11:g:IyEAAOSwwbdWPEAP
if its possible maybe you could do a video? just seems like a real cheap option
They totally can--you just need to change the connector. I actually used to mod first gen 360 bricks for my Mini ITX systems because they were the highest amp, sturdiest bricks back in 2009. I might be able to make a video...
+Not From Concentrate that would be awesome if u could make a vid. with the newer brick. this would be my cheaper option as im in Australia.
I have one question. Can i run r9 nano and 35w i7 6700t with meanwell 1000w off a PICO 160xt becouse there is no room for HD PLEX in case that i use?
You would be looking at about a 330 average watt draw under load. You would need to replace the wires on the Pico, but it probably could be done. I would consider putting a heatsink and light airflow over your Pico.
Not From Concentrate thx a LOT but what wire thicknes should i put
There are ALOT of factors that go into that. Personally I would use 15AWG, though technically you want something a bit heavier. The problem is it will be really hard to work with thicker wire than 15 on the Pico. www.bluesea.com/support/articles/Circuit_Protection/1437/Part_1%3A_Choosing_the_Correct_Wire_Size_for_a_DC_Circuit
Not From Concentrate am i good to go with 14awg and will it fit with picos smallest conector that leads to SATA and MOLEX. Oh by the way linked article is helpfull but it doesnt give me final answers.
Not From Concentrate and also can you link me a place to buy the wires and some nice sleeveing that ships worldwide
+ Not From Concentrate Hi is it really possible to draw 270 watts through an 150xt picopsu?
Cause I am going to build a system with an amd a10 7850k ( 70-80 watts) and an r9 380 (190-225 watts) and want to know if this is possible too.
+PowerCraftLP
I've not done any over voltage with the 150 XT--only the 160XT. You totally can run 270 through the 160XT, as I show in this video (and did back before I knew about HDPLEX).
That being said, I recommend using the right tool for the job, and the HDPLEX + the Dell 330w or the Voodoo 350w bricks are the right tools for the job. You would have to do too much modding on the 150 to get it safe, and plus you would have to mod the connector for your GPU. With the HDPLEX, it will fit and run that combo right out the box.
If you haven't committed on your CPU yet I would recommend looking at something 65w or under though, unless you aren't worried about high temps. Thanks and goodluck!!!
+PowerCraftLP This is the 380 you need for the S4 Mini btw:
www.amazon.com/Sapphire-COMPACT-Version-Graphics-11242-00-20G/dp/B00ZGL8EBK
Thanks!
+Not From Concentrate Can You please send me the link of the voodoo 350w and the dell 330w?
Sure
goo.gl/XXlpKO
goo.gl/FrTgZB
NFC, Love your videos! I'm wanting to power a 1080yi / 7700k with the new HDPLEX 400, and the internal 300w power supply. As long as I dont torture it, think it'l work? My other option is 2 Pico 160xts and a Meanwell 400w Thoughts?
I haven't had any luck powering the 1080ti off the Dell 330, or the HDPLEX AC/DC 300, and that is with CPU at 35w and some power limiting on the 1080ti. Although it averages 335w, it can peak too high. I'm testing an affordable idea for modders now, but in the meantime you need to look at the Eurocom 780, which is insanely expensive. Peace
Have you tried out the meanwell 400w? or the Athena Flex Atx?
Going 12v with Picos would work because there are TONS of high wattage 12v power supplies. Not alot of 19v solutions. But you need to be really careful because without a re-wire you could have wires melt in the Pico. I think the solution I am working on will be cleaner and I hope to have it tested soon.
also one last question, for bricks that output 19v such as the Dell brick, is the 160xt able to handle 19v in when it's rated for 12? or do you have to compensate in some way?
If you wanna go 19v I HIGHLY recommend going with the wide input PSUs from HDPLEX. The HDPLEX 250 can power a 1080 system with overhead to spare!
Would really love to see this case reach a aussie supplier for AUD$150 not USD$150 into AUD (AUD$205)
Totally possible. I just need an Aussie to order 100+ of them. Lemme know if you want to put up the cash and resell them. Aussies are my best customers. Peace!
Not From Concentrate
I suggest contacting Umart.com.au , they might order 1000-2000 of them since they have a lot of stores and huge reach
hi I'm in the process of building a gaming PC still saving for the s4 mini, but since I have most everything else tried a couple tests with my rig in open air, I have a g3258 and a 750ti on a 160xt powered by a modded 203w Xbox 360 psu. the problem is the 2.5*5.5mm connector I soldered on melted when the GPU started pulling max wattage from my system, is there another connection I should use? something that can handle the wattage and the heat better so i don't burn down my house? haha I see you use 4 pin CPU connector is that what I should look into?
Yeah, use the 4 Pin DIN connections. Burning down your house isn't good! I have never had anywhere close a problem with the wattage you describe with the Din connections.
PEACE
thanks so much man I really appreciate your help!! :)
Samsung S4 mini, or Seasonic Prime 850w Titanium 80+ psu
Your getting a 1 volts drop at that short of a distance. That's BAD. Means you've got that pico overloaded. It's only able to handle 160 watts. Don't burn your computer down lol!