Hi, just fyi the "intelligent battery heating" button is nothing intelligent at all, if you have it enabled it will permanently keep the battery at temperature, massively increasing consumption
It's called intelligent battery heating because it's thermostatically controlled. It only turns on if the battery if it is under 10c. And turns off at about 20c. So it doesn't just stay on. Get a OBD scanner
@@alanhold2468 it should preheat the battery when necessary instead of keeping it at temperature all the time. The MG4 standard cant know wether you are going to charge or not since it doesnt have navigation. Since the button simply activates the battery preconditioning, that's what they should've called it "Activate battery preconditioning" and then make it automatically turn off when you re-enter the car, so you dont have it accidentally turned on all the time.
Can I reiterate what others have already said? I have an MG4 SE SR, and it's range display is *uncannily* accurate. I've driven it down low, once to 4%, and on that occasion I was overtaking another car when it was at 5% and it still gave me full power. I've come to trust it a lot, because it's good and reliable about what it displays. But then, I charge it to 100% on an AC charger and let it balance, every day I charge the car in normal use. I do what MG says, and every 4 months I run the car down below 10% and then give it a single long AC charge all the way to 100% and let it balance. This is how you manage this battery so that the estimated range is reliable. If you don't do this, then you deserve all you get as regards unreliable readouts. Others have driven these cars lower than I have, and say there is as much as 15 miles there at slower speeds once the range and the % read zero.
Worth checking out bjorn nylands videos on this car. A very different (positive) opinion. Ps scheduled heating is absolutely NOT a "very important" feature.
For me scheduled heating is one the reasons why I love EVs ;) and it is a feature that every other EV has. and I mentioned a lot of things that are good in this car. You just focused on the few things I don't like and are missing.
It's important for me. When you are driving in freezing temperatures regularly, heated steering wheel and scheduled climate control can save a lot of time each morning. It's also nice to have warm hands when driving, even when you don't need to heat the car that much.
@@decimal1815 it takes one minute to switch on heating remotely if it's cold before you set off for work. This guy wants it on for 30 mins every working day.
@@BatteryLife I don't see it. Turn it on as you start to get ready to go out, put your boots on, gather your things together. By the time you've done all that, car will be toasty warm. If I scheduled it on a timer, chances are it would have cooled half way down by the time I got out to the car.
The Standard model (SE SR in the UK) gets heated seats in Europe? 🤔 When was that car's battery pack last balanced? (The LFP pack likes to go to 100% on an AC charge lead and balance - every time, even though the manual indicates once per week. The Guess-o-Meter will be wildly out if it doesn't know the proper state of the battery pack, which is what a balance charge helps to achieve).
@@InBodWeTrustagreed, BMS needs to calibrate the battery since voltage drop on LFP is quite small between full and empty. Personally I have driven 1900 miles in my first month of ownership and not seeing battery issues and love the car. It’s no Cybertruck but it’ll do for now.
@@BatteryLife Ok, thanks. Can you choose in the app how long it stays on? Or is that a fixed time? Would you have to restart it over and over again to make it stay on for an hour?
@@altmuligmannen3086 With the app it stays on for a fixed 10 minutes. After that you can ask it to do another 10 minutes, but it will refuse to go a third time for "safety reasons". I don't know how long you have to leave it then before it will go again. Anyway, even 10 minutes gets the car toasty warm.
i am slightly confused, my understanding is heated seats arent there in the standard configuration. 2:37 would make it seem this is not standard, but sth higher. or do heated seat come in standard in certain regions?
Depends what you want. I chose the car because I like the LFP battery and it has sufficient range for me on a day to day basis even in winter. If I had wanted to do long road trips in a hurry I'd have bought the LR, but when I'm out on the road I actually appreciate the charging speed because it means I don't have to rush to get back to the car in only 20 minutes. But honestly, when you can do 100 miles round trip in a day, which included an unexpected 28 miles because I had to go back for something, and get home on 30% charge, in winter, well, it will do me anyway!
It's built to a price, but it feels and drives way better than the price tag. (Other people I know have driven other similar sized EVs which are a lot more expensive, and preferred the MG4 SE SR. e.g. Peugeot e208 might be better specced internally, but they said the feel of the car was noticeably worse, and horrible to drive compared to the MG4). My own MG4 SE SR (same as the Standard in this video) is well put together - no creaks or wobbles or obvious wear after a year and 5000 miles of driving.
Bjorn Nyland has found that 25 is the temperature of the air coming out of the vents, not of the cabin. Just turn the heat up more and it's fine. About 5 degrees more than you want it to get to. Don't think about the numbers, just think of it as an arbitrary scale. It's fine.
@@logant6490 That's just because Import tarrifs in Europe are too low. Let me explain. China makes a car in China, imports it to Europe. Import tariff = 10%. Now lets look to China, lets say Europe makes a car and exports it to China. Then we have to pay between 15 and 25% import tariffs to the Chinese government. Unfair right? What about China to USA? Yes 25%. Under trump they increased the import tariffs for cars, that's the reason why China is not exporting their cars to USA. We the EU should also increase import tariffs up to 25%. Now everything is UNFAIR towards EU.
In the UK, the MG4 gets very positive reviews, mainly (I guess) down to the price and value for money versus other EVs. It's good to see a real-world review, warts and all. How would you rate it against your ID3 (out of 10) ? Where I am, I do see quite a few on the road (certainly more than my Cupra Born) - so MG are doing something right. Software issues can be fixed via OTA updates (?) unlike the equivalent VAG EVs 😂. Looking forward to seeing your ID7 😁.
I think the mg4 and mg5 are okay for town cars because public charging in the uk and eu is expensive. So if you can charge at home that's fine, at the moment it's cheaper to fill up with petrol tan use public charging points, 👍👍👍
@craigandrew You are right about public charging. I've only used public chargers 3 times in a year of owning an EV. Pretty essential to have off-street parking and a home charger - makes running an EV a viable proposition.
@AndersonTuckmantel The PetrolPed YT channel has just done a review of the electric Corsa. He showed a table comparing prices electric vs petrol - the electric versions were ~£10k more expensive. Not everyone can afford £30k+ for a B segment car.
Autobahns are only in Germany and therefore distance tests at high speed on the Autobahn are quite unimportant for other users! Most likely, outside of Germany, in other European countries, especially in Eastern Europe, this (51 kWh) is quite a good "entry level long range" EV. The main thing is that it is significantly cheaper than ID.3...!!! f the MG4 turns out to be sufficiently protected against rust, then it has a very good chance of becoming a bestseller even in Eastern Europe...
The cruise control is ping-ponging something fierce!
Traffic Jam Assistant work very well "ONLY" in slow moving traffic, I only use it in slow moving traffic.
Im driving MG4 SE Long Range 2023
Hi I just got my new ID3 face lift and on checking the software it came with 3.7 and is working well
Hi, just fyi the "intelligent battery heating" button is nothing intelligent at all, if you have it enabled it will permanently keep the battery at temperature, massively increasing consumption
It's called intelligent battery heating because it's thermostatically controlled. It only turns on if the battery if it is under 10c. And turns off at about 20c. So it doesn't just stay on. Get a OBD scanner
@@alanhold2468 thats obvious, not what I would refer to as intelligent
@@florian_spdl so what sort of intelligence would you like a battery heater to have? What would you like it to do?
@@alanhold2468 it should preheat the battery when necessary instead of keeping it at temperature all the time. The MG4 standard cant know wether you are going to charge or not since it doesnt have navigation. Since the button simply activates the battery preconditioning, that's what they should've called it "Activate battery preconditioning" and then make it automatically turn off when you re-enter the car, so you dont have it accidentally turned on all the time.
Thanks for the info!
Can I reiterate what others have already said? I have an MG4 SE SR, and it's range display is *uncannily* accurate. I've driven it down low, once to 4%, and on that occasion I was overtaking another car when it was at 5% and it still gave me full power. I've come to trust it a lot, because it's good and reliable about what it displays.
But then, I charge it to 100% on an AC charger and let it balance, every day I charge the car in normal use. I do what MG says, and every 4 months I run the car down below 10% and then give it a single long AC charge all the way to 100% and let it balance. This is how you manage this battery so that the estimated range is reliable. If you don't do this, then you deserve all you get as regards unreliable readouts.
Others have driven these cars lower than I have, and say there is as much as 15 miles there at slower speeds once the range and the % read zero.
Wish you could get the 51kWh LFP battery with the Trophy spec..
Worth checking out bjorn nylands videos on this car. A very different (positive) opinion.
Ps scheduled heating is absolutely NOT a "very important" feature.
For me scheduled heating is one the reasons why I love EVs ;)
and it is a feature that every other EV has.
and I mentioned a lot of things that are good in this car.
You just focused on the few things I don't like and are missing.
It's important for me. When you are driving in freezing temperatures regularly, heated steering wheel and scheduled climate control can save a lot of time each morning. It's also nice to have warm hands when driving, even when you don't need to heat the car that much.
@@decimal1815 it takes one minute to switch on heating remotely if it's cold before you set off for work.
This guy wants it on for 30 mins every working day.
@@logant6490 is the app reliable?
@@BatteryLife I don't see it. Turn it on as you start to get ready to go out, put your boots on, gather your things together. By the time you've done all that, car will be toasty warm. If I scheduled it on a timer, chances are it would have cooled half way down by the time I got out to the car.
Perhaps snow is covering the front sensors effecting the cruise control.
No, it’s trash. Nothing more nothing less.
Ignore the obvious troll 🙄
It was ice, I fixed it
That's weird. My A/C doesn't come on when I change the temperature.
The Standard model (SE SR in the UK) gets heated seats in Europe? 🤔
When was that car's battery pack last balanced? (The LFP pack likes to go to 100% on an AC charge lead and balance - every time, even though the manual indicates once per week. The Guess-o-Meter will be wildly out if it doesn't know the proper state of the battery pack, which is what a balance charge helps to achieve).
No, lithium battery doesn’t “likes” or benefit of being in high state of charge. Not even the LFP.
@@Harrythehun we'll have to agree to disagree then. Having owned the MG4 SE SR for over a year now I can speak from experience 🤷♂
@@InBodWeTrustagreed, BMS needs to calibrate the battery since voltage drop on LFP is quite small between full and empty. Personally I have driven 1900 miles in my first month of ownership and not seeing battery issues and love the car. It’s no Cybertruck but it’ll do for now.
@@InBodWeTrust Agree. Same experience. Absolutely reliable range estimate, no nasty surprises at all - if you treat the battery right.
Can you keep the climate control running when locking and leaving the car, aka "dog mode"?
No, but you can start preheat with the spp
@@BatteryLife Ok, thanks. Can you choose in the app how long it stays on? Or is that a fixed time? Would you have to restart it over and over again to make it stay on for an hour?
@@altmuligmannen3086 With the app it stays on for a fixed 10 minutes. After that you can ask it to do another 10 minutes, but it will refuse to go a third time for "safety reasons". I don't know how long you have to leave it then before it will go again. Anyway, even 10 minutes gets the car toasty warm.
i am slightly confused, my understanding is heated seats arent there in the standard configuration. 2:37 would make it seem this is not standard, but sth higher. or do heated seat come in standard in certain regions?
8:59 electric rear windows, also not in standard. i call BS on the entire video :)
SR stands for inSufficient Range?
Depends what you want. I chose the car because I like the LFP battery and it has sufficient range for me on a day to day basis even in winter. If I had wanted to do long road trips in a hurry I'd have bought the LR, but when I'm out on the road I actually appreciate the charging speed because it means I don't have to rush to get back to the car in only 20 minutes.
But honestly, when you can do 100 miles round trip in a day, which included an unexpected 28 miles because I had to go back for something, and get home on 30% charge, in winter, well, it will do me anyway!
It’s amazing what China can produce 😊
Not☹️
@@bernardhilton3527 weres your phone,camera, watch, stereo,iPods,air fryer from ? 🇨🇳 credit we’re credit due😉
In the app the green electrons are escaping not going into the battery!
How cheap does this car feel?
It's built to a price, but it feels and drives way better than the price tag. (Other people I know have driven other similar sized EVs which are a lot more expensive, and preferred the MG4 SE SR. e.g. Peugeot e208 might be better specced internally, but they said the feel of the car was noticeably worse, and horrible to drive compared to the MG4).
My own MG4 SE SR (same as the Standard in this video) is well put together - no creaks or wobbles or obvious wear after a year and 5000 miles of driving.
Not too much.
How works Lane Grip Assist ?
It's no problem. You just turn it off every time you get in the car. Sorted.
How can it still be cold in the car when the heater is set to 25 degrees? That’s really really hot!
Good to see you testing in those cold temperatures. Wonder how the ID.5 will behave 😅
Often the reviews mention that the Chinese cars has less great heating capacity.
The MG4 seems to have an offset for the target temperature ... if you want 20/21C then set the target to 25C.
It is a chinese thing
Bjorn Nyland has found that 25 is the temperature of the air coming out of the vents, not of the cabin. Just turn the heat up more and it's fine. About 5 degrees more than you want it to get to. Don't think about the numbers, just think of it as an arbitrary scale. It's fine.
This reminds me of clone of I phone and Samsung phones . I avoided them.. and I will continue to avoid these types of cars ;P
Your loss. I've got one and it's FANTASTIC.
yes the range is poor on the mg4, ill get a hyundai kona ,👍👍👍
This is £27k,kona is £35k.
Yes and it's well worth the money,
Until you test drive one you wouldn't understand,
@@craigandrew I own an mg4, it's excellent, and compares extremely well to my brothers £39k kia eniro
I have driven this MG4 SR for 2 weeks and own a Kona 39kwh. Both cars compare very well but I really prefer the Kona.
@@logant6490 That's just because Import tarrifs in Europe are too low. Let me explain. China makes a car in China, imports it to Europe. Import tariff = 10%. Now lets look to China, lets say Europe makes a car and exports it to China. Then we have to pay between 15 and 25% import tariffs to the Chinese government. Unfair right? What about China to USA? Yes 25%. Under trump they increased the import tariffs for cars, that's the reason why China is not exporting their cars to USA. We the EU should also increase import tariffs up to 25%. Now everything is UNFAIR towards EU.
Hello, which tyres do you use and what preasure donyou have?
Both in the video
Looks like range it pants, 48% with 67mile range, is that correct?
If rang is above 200milez you would expect 48% to near the 85 to 90mile range
Good video. Did you say no integrated sat nav? Maybe some of those issues you mentioned could be fixed by software updates?
I always use Android auto, simple and better than any proprietary satnav
@@logant6490 yes, but I’m interested if the car actually comes with a sat nav?
@@mattperkins1992 only the top spec trophy model
No sat nav. Most of it can be solved with software updates. But we don't know if or when.
@@logant6490 Oh? Can Android auto, assume the range and usage of the car, and determine the perfect charging stop moments? IT CAN'T.
In the UK, the MG4 gets very positive reviews, mainly (I guess) down to the price and value for money versus other EVs.
It's good to see a real-world review, warts and all.
How would you rate it against your ID3 (out of 10) ?
Where I am, I do see quite a few on the road (certainly more than my Cupra Born) - so MG are doing something right.
Software issues can be fixed via OTA updates (?) unlike the equivalent VAG EVs 😂.
Looking forward to seeing your ID7 😁.
You're seeing more MG4s than Cupra Borns on the road because the first one is cheaper 😅
I think the mg4 and mg5 are okay for town cars because public charging in the uk and eu is expensive. So if you can charge at home that's fine, at the moment it's cheaper to fill up with petrol tan use public charging points, 👍👍👍
@craigandrew You are right about public charging. I've only used public chargers 3 times in a year of owning an EV. Pretty essential to have off-street parking and a home charger - makes running an EV a viable proposition.
@AndersonTuckmantel The PetrolPed YT channel has just done a review of the electric Corsa. He showed a table comparing prices electric vs petrol - the electric versions were ~£10k more expensive. Not everyone can afford £30k+ for a B segment car.
Wonder what import tarrifs the UK has regarding cars? Now it's not in the EU anymore
Autobahns are only in Germany and therefore distance tests at high speed on the Autobahn are quite unimportant for other users! Most likely, outside of Germany, in other European countries, especially in Eastern Europe, this (51 kWh) is quite a good "entry level long range" EV. The main thing is that it is significantly cheaper than ID.3...!!! f the MG4 turns out to be sufficiently protected against rust, then it has a very good chance of becoming a bestseller even in Eastern Europe...