Aw man I'd love a Native and a Shaman in K390! Wouldn't mind a pair in CruWear or Magnacut either (I know they did the Native in both but good luck finding one, so a restock + the Shaman would be nice).
The only problem with K390 is all I will EDC is K390 now. It has shelved the rest of my knife collection. But I do miss a few in Cruwear, but not that much ....... 🤓
Another steel that I generally like is Elmax, although you don't see it that often anymore compared to other "hot" steels. Would be cool if you came around testing some of those other steels sometime in the future ☺
12:12 you are right on the performance of MagnaCut at that Rockwell. I believe the patent holder designed the steel to perform the best at that hardness.
K390 is amazing. Edge retention for days. Down here in Kaneohe it can rust kinda fast so I just give it a little more love and care it serves me just fine🤙🏼
Just last week got my 15V Shaman. Stropped scary sharp on factory edge. This knife has no right to be this slicey with that thick stock. Greetings from Germany and cheers, Erica! 🍻
I like a super wide variety but typically its steels under 4% vanadium with under 14% total carbide volume. Rex-45 and cruwear for folders and honestly I would be happy if the only steel I ever had was properly heat treated (61-62 HRC) Aebl/14c28n/nitrov.
Very cool topic here today, I appreciate your honest opinions based on your personal experiences. 😊I think you made a lot of valid points, well said. 👍Thanks for sharing, take care and Cheers!
I’ve had other knives in M4, but I recently got an M4 Delica. Id remembered that i liked the wear on your coated Delica, so i went with it. This M4 is killing M4 I’ve had before snd is among the sliciest knives I own.
Thanks for this -it looks like S45 is the way forward for me. Here in UK you cant carry fixed blade folders (draconian knife laws) so they are only good for tasks around the house, garage and back yard. However, I have family in continental Europe which doesnt have such restrictive laws and they own a farm so I need an EDC for there. I also go hiking around that area. I think S45 is a good way to go. As much as Rex and Maxamet look crazy fun, I think in terms of corrosion, chipping and difficulty of sharpening they are losing out to S45. Cheaper doesnt mean worse :) I heard an un-intentionally hilarious comment by a German about Maxamet on a forum. He said "I shouldn't have bothered with maxamet. I'm always experimentally poking so I should have known my tip would be in danger" -sorry it's probably my sense of humor 🤣 I was wondering about something you might find interesting: Over in Europe I cleaned up some rusty tools (not knives but like a *really* old hand saw and a few farm tools). I polished the saw with high grit silicum carbide paper. To see what would happen I went through the grits up to 2000 and then polished it with flitz. Anyhow, it was a fairly quick job, so it ended up not mirror polished -but decently close. The net result was that it seems to have become pretty well rustproof. On top of that it cuts better -probably due to reduced drag. I was wondering... with K390 and the likes of maxamet... what if you mirror polished the heck out of the blade area *inside* the handle. Being that that is where it might start rusting and you might not be able to notice it. Could that be a good preventative measure? And would silicum carbide paper actual be *able* to polish such hard steels?
I think you'd like the ukpk. It's a non locking knife like the native but no lock so abides with the law but the choil males it not go down on your finger so your thumb acts as the lock but is still a very nice pen knife. Ukpk is a solid folder that doesn't have a lock.
I’ve been really enjoying SPY27 and cts-xhp recently. Balanced steels that are easy to maintain just make too much sense as far as what to throw in my pocket when I’m not sure what I’ll be doing that day. Even if I end up really pushing the knife at some point, they’re so easy (and so enjoyable) to touch up it’s not an issue.
have you worked with zdp at all? i know it's hard to sharpen but you have max on the list so i figure i would ask...i adore that finish on the rex45 you have...
Another long day here but I got home and had a craft beer called stone fruit. Basically peach mango and plum. Very tasty. Enjoy that and enjoyed your video even more. You rock.
You’ve got a nice collection of knives. I would like to ask a question if you don’t mind. When I apply a compound to a strop. Is that strop only good with that compound? Can I reapply a different compound or use a different strop for different compounds? Thanks I’m learning slowly.
I am EXTREMELY butt-hurt that you didn't talk about 440c! My 440c Schatt & Morgans are glorious and deserve more recognition! That beer looks delicious! My 'House Marg' is a pinch of salt, squeeze of lime juice & a shot of Cuervo dumped into my Budweiser 🤣🤣 I've always been a very classy guy 🤷♂ Awesome knives & video, E!! ❤
IMO 440C is very dependent on the maker. With a good heat- treatment, it's a perfectly acceptable mid-range stainless steel. With a bad heat-treat, it's garbage.
Genuine question (not Butt hurt). I know you love your sodbuster jr. Just curious if GEC steel is better in general why not carry one of those instead or put differently, what is case excelling at in the sodbuster jr that isn’t matched in GEC knives (or other traditional manufacturers).
@@ericasedc fair play. Case in point (no pun intended), I don’t have a GEC because I can’t just order it from Amazon like I can with Case knives. I’m annoyed by the GEC dance you have to do to get one of those but perhaps some day I’ll care enough to bust out a jig and get me one.
Love me some 01 n 1095 but rex 45 and m390 from spyderco are soo good...I have a wharny delica in k390 in the mail.. next day the MAgnacut native 5 lw came out might pick up one of those too. Between your testing nd Neeves sharpening my game has stepped right up my knives are look at them cut you sharp haha so thanks guys.
@ericasedc I just could go with a dif color frn scale on the native. I like the yellow non threatening and easy to see when dropped it's also the salt version so that's why. But the maxamet and cruwear went up in price. And I wanted a 15 v shamen but that was almost 300 bucks. So no thanks lol 😆 I'm good with my last knives but I do want a Smock in m4 or Gayle Bradley in k390. I got the stretch 2 lightweight but I kinda like the blade shape on the og stretch. 🤔 they had a cruwear version of the stretch for 250 instead of k390 but I saw the k390 get better reviews. But my spidercos went from 0 to I think 🤔 I got 8 of them now lol.. I even got some 8cr13mov steel ones before I became a steel nerd 🤓 😆
To me, M390 is just kinda boring. It holds up OK, but I do not think it lives up to the hype. Just now getting around to sharpening magnacut. My experience is it sure cleans up nice, even pine resin wipes off, so great camp knife. You told us how S45vn can perform with a toothy edge and I have been leaving it rough and enjoying that performance. I found S45vn makes a great kitchen steel.
I've got a Spyderco Delica in ZDP-189 and I really like it. Good edge retention and toughness, if a little harder to sharpen. I think it's gets unfairly overshadowed by the newer "super steels". I think they made an Endura in the same steel.
Wait they are making scales for the Native LW?!?!?!? Holy crap I feel like my dream knife might be able to improve. Do we know a release date because I just checked the site and they arent there yet.
The knives I use most have Elmax, LC200N, 154CM, M4, S35VN, S90V and 20CV blade steel. My favorite to sharpen is Elmax. Then LC200N, 154CM, and S35VN are all about equal. Then comes M4. And last are S90V and 20CV. Just my untrained observations.
I got my endela in zdp189. Stretch 2 in k390, sharpened i love mt tenacious we got the same one 😆 but i got an m4 delica 8cr13mov resilience and tenacious. I want your s45vn one 🤣 🤣 🔥
D2 is the best EDC steel for me. I have a big collection of EDC blades, s30v, s35vn, m390, s90v and others. And I do use my blades a lot, because I run a flower shop with my wife. And by now my favourite EDC blade is one of my cheapest, the Petrified Fish pf818 in D2 (a very effective design)... Why D2 ? Because it's cheap, holds an edge really well and it's easy to fix. And I'm not afraid to lose it or brake it. To me the EDC knife culture went in two different groups. First group are knives that are meant to be actually used every day. And the second group is the expensive jewellery fancy steel knives that people are afraid to use, and have them just as quality machined mechanism, more like a toy. I never saw hard working men (construction or other job) using a 200$+ knife... And if you look at knives under 70$ (a working knife should not cost more) D2 is king in that range.
I no fav yet but I've dealt with 154cm, d2,vg10,14c27,440,st8,5160, and of course the dreaded unlisted stainless steel stamped duds lol but kizer civivi shrade Kershaw seem to be decent with their steels oh and of course buck and old timer dad had were decent enuff 😂
I have only used S35vn, S30v, 1085, 1095, D2, 440...so far I have found the 1095 on my Ka Bar BK2 by far the best steel I have used. Keeps a very sharp edge with a indestructible edge retention. I truly believe there is no need for all these "super steels" in a pocket knife. I think a lot of it is gimmick to jack up prices. Just my opinion. 1095 will do everything just as good.
For fixed blades, yeah 1095 is fantastic. Ka bar did an especially good job with the way they run their 1095 Cro van. But for pocket knives I think it is just average. I like it, but there are a few steels I would want instead. You should check out SPY27, cts-xhp, and 154cm/cpm154. Not “super steels”, but still excellent blade steels that aren’t absurdly priced. They all have a great balance of properties and work well in a variety of applications. And they are fun to sharpen if you are like me and enjoy the process.
I think the Glock knife in spring steel is better than k bar. As far as pocket knife.. It's a whole different ball game. K390 for the win! Or a Benchmade 970 in s30v for fun.
1095 has low edge retention. most budget stainless steels can outlast 1095 in edge retention. 1095 will also rust if you look at it wrong here in the south. 1095 is fine for fixed blades but it makes almost no sense for a folding knife.
I swear D2 is for folders what 1095 is for fixed blades. You're welcome to follow the rest of us into the 21st century. There's this revolutionary and new (for you) alloy called S30V that was designed just for knives! That's the early 2000s for you, wait till you see what they'll come up with in the 2010s!
Totally agree with you on Spyderco needing to make a K390 Native 5 LW.
Aw man I'd love a Native and a Shaman in K390! Wouldn't mind a pair in CruWear or Magnacut either (I know they did the Native in both but good luck finding one, so a restock + the Shaman would be nice).
The only problem with K390 is all I will EDC is K390 now. It has shelved the rest of my knife collection. But I do miss a few in Cruwear, but not that much ....... 🤓
It’s so good❤
Another steel that I generally like is Elmax, although you don't see it that often anymore compared to other "hot" steels. Would be cool if you came around testing some of those other steels sometime in the future ☺
Maybe some day!!!
Hi Erica, and I thought you needed a beer when you saw the Benchmade retail prices for 2023.
Cru-Wear is my favorite high-alloy steel. It has fantastic edge stability and the corrosion resistance is a bonus. K390 is awesome too!
Cheers to that!
12:12 you are right on the performance of MagnaCut at that Rockwell. I believe the patent holder designed the steel to perform the best at that hardness.
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K390 is amazing. Edge retention for days. Down here in Kaneohe it can rust kinda fast so I just give it a little more love and care it serves me just fine🤙🏼
Atta boi
Just last week got my 15V Shaman. Stropped scary sharp on factory edge. This knife has no right to be this slicey with that thick stock. Greetings from Germany and cheers, Erica! 🍻
One day I’ll try it!
I definitely dig mid-level steels like VG10 and CTS-bd1n decent edge retention and good corrosion resistance
There ya go!
I like a super wide variety but typically its steels under 4% vanadium with under 14% total carbide volume. Rex-45 and cruwear for folders and honestly I would be happy if the only steel I ever had was properly heat treated (61-62 HRC) Aebl/14c28n/nitrov.
Thanks for watching❤
All brillant steels, i will test a stretch 2 in K390 in the future.
Keep up the good work greetings from germany
Cheers!!!
Very cool topic here today, I appreciate your honest opinions based on your personal experiences. 😊I think you made a lot of valid points, well said. 👍Thanks for sharing, take care and Cheers!
Hey ST!!! Thanks for tuning in!❤
Great knife reviews, love your authentic style. Keep up the good work.
I appreciate you!!!
I’ve had other knives in M4, but I recently got an M4 Delica. Id remembered that i liked the wear on your coated Delica, so i went with it. This M4 is killing M4 I’ve had before snd is among the sliciest knives I own.
Yessss
Thanks for this -it looks like S45 is the way forward for me.
Here in UK you cant carry fixed blade folders (draconian knife laws) so they are only good for tasks around the house, garage and back yard.
However, I have family in continental Europe which doesnt have such restrictive laws and they own a farm so I need an EDC for there. I also go hiking around that area. I think S45 is a good way to go. As much as Rex and Maxamet look crazy fun, I think in terms of corrosion, chipping and difficulty of sharpening they are losing out to S45. Cheaper doesnt mean worse :)
I heard an un-intentionally hilarious comment by a German about Maxamet on a forum. He said "I shouldn't have bothered with maxamet. I'm always experimentally poking so I should have known my tip would be in danger" -sorry it's probably my sense of humor 🤣
I was wondering about something you might find interesting: Over in Europe I cleaned up some rusty tools (not knives but like a *really* old hand saw and a few farm tools). I polished the saw with high grit silicum carbide paper. To see what would happen I went through the grits up to 2000 and then polished it with flitz. Anyhow, it was a fairly quick job, so it ended up not mirror polished -but decently close. The net result was that it seems to have become pretty well rustproof. On top of that it cuts better -probably due to reduced drag.
I was wondering... with K390 and the likes of maxamet... what if you mirror polished the heck out of the blade area *inside* the handle. Being that that is where it might start rusting and you might not be able to notice it. Could that be a good preventative measure? And would silicum carbide paper actual be *able* to polish such hard steels?
That could help!
I think you'd like the ukpk. It's a non locking knife like the native but no lock so abides with the law but the choil males it not go down on your finger so your thumb acts as the lock but is still a very nice pen knife. Ukpk is a solid folder that doesn't have a lock.
How does S45VN compare with SPY27 in terms of edge retention, toughness and ease of sharpening? Thanks.
S45VN outperforms SPY27 in all aspects. Cheers!
I’ve been really enjoying SPY27 and cts-xhp recently. Balanced steels that are easy to maintain just make too much sense as far as what to throw in my pocket when I’m not sure what I’ll be doing that day. Even if I end up really pushing the knife at some point, they’re so easy (and so enjoyable) to touch up it’s not an issue.
Love it🎉
Love the couple of your mom jokes you threw in there! 🤣 I still need to try K390!
You sure do!
One of the top on my wishlist is the delica wharnie k390...i want Steel that holds that edge!
I am really liking CPM M4, K390, Maxamet, CPM Magnacut and CPM Cruwate.
Awesome choices Rusty
have you worked with zdp at all? i know it's hard to sharpen but you have max on the list so i figure i would ask...i adore that finish on the rex45 you have...
I have not used that yet!!!!
My latest was a fixed blade in A2.
So many steels, so little time.
Love A2!
Another long day here but I got home and had a craft beer called stone fruit. Basically peach mango and plum. Very tasty. Enjoy that and enjoyed your video even more. You rock.
I have had that!!!! Sooo yummy!!!!
You’ve got a nice collection of knives. I would like to ask a question if you don’t mind. When I apply a compound to a strop. Is that strop only good with that compound? Can I reapply a different compound or use a different strop for different compounds? Thanks I’m learning slowly.
Best not to mix the compounds. One per strop.
Do not mix compounds ever! 😊
I am EXTREMELY butt-hurt that you didn't talk about 440c! My 440c Schatt & Morgans are glorious and deserve more recognition! That beer looks delicious! My 'House Marg' is a pinch of salt, squeeze of lime juice & a shot of Cuervo dumped into my Budweiser 🤣🤣 I've always been a very classy guy 🤷♂ Awesome knives & video, E!! ❤
I haven’t used that yet really!!!
Sure you have...it's that soft stainless garbage that kitchen knives are made out of. Softer than Mac's nether regions🤣
@@floydmorrison2025 JESSE!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
IMO 440C is very dependent on the maker. With a good heat- treatment, it's a perfectly acceptable mid-range stainless steel. With a bad heat-treat, it's garbage.
Genuine question (not Butt hurt). I know you love your sodbuster jr. Just curious if GEC steel is better in general why not carry one of those instead or put differently, what is case excelling at in the sodbuster jr that isn’t matched in GEC knives (or other traditional manufacturers).
I literally just love Soddy’s and they’re cheap. And easy to get.
@@ericasedc fair play. Case in point (no pun intended), I don’t have a GEC because I can’t just order it from Amazon like I can with Case knives. I’m annoyed by the GEC dance you have to do to get one of those but perhaps some day I’ll care enough to bust out a jig and get me one.
Love me some 01 n 1095 but rex 45 and m390 from spyderco are soo good...I have a wharny delica in k390 in the mail.. next day the MAgnacut native 5 lw came out might pick up one of those too. Between your testing nd Neeves sharpening my game has stepped right up my knives are look at them cut you sharp haha so thanks guys.
Love you Don!
Alright you've sold me on K390 lol Ive been thinking about trying it for a while
People are sleeping on the leafjumper in K390 fantastic knife and steel
You won’t regret it!!!❤
I love your video's 🙌 🙌 i just got a manix in spy 27 and a native 5 in magnacut. 😎
I love that for you!!!
@ericasedc I just could go with a dif color frn scale on the native. I like the yellow non threatening and easy to see when dropped it's also the salt version so that's why. But the maxamet and cruwear went up in price. And I wanted a 15 v shamen but that was almost 300 bucks. So no thanks lol 😆 I'm good with my last knives but I do want a Smock in m4 or Gayle Bradley in k390. I got the stretch 2 lightweight but I kinda like the blade shape on the og stretch. 🤔 they had a cruwear version of the stretch for 250 instead of k390 but I saw the k390 get better reviews. But my spidercos went from 0 to I think 🤔 I got 8 of them now lol.. I even got some 8cr13mov steel ones before I became a steel nerd 🤓 😆
Great video. Very informative.
Thanks Dean!
The camera quality is great, good steel choices as well
Thank you🇺🇸
Thank you Erica!
Thank YOU for watching!
Love the video format
Thank you!!!
Absolutely love k390! #tinertown
Wooo🎉
I really need to get my hands on a K390 knife.
Yes you do
Shiiiittt, that lime and salt pil sounds freaking great
So dang good
I'm sorry if I missed the name what model is the second Spyderco I like the all black with those scales
I believe it's a paramilitary 3
@@hayesmuiderman3760sure is!!!
Barking of that dog. For me 100%! Can be in every video!
😂❤
:-)
To me, M390 is just kinda boring. It holds up OK, but I do not think it lives up to the hype. Just now getting around to sharpening magnacut. My experience is it sure cleans up nice, even pine resin wipes off, so great camp knife. You told us how S45vn can perform with a toothy edge and I have been leaving it rough and enjoying that performance. I found S45vn makes a great kitchen steel.
Mhm!!❤
I’ve been looking for some ZDP 189 to try
Nice!❤
I've got a Spyderco Delica in ZDP-189 and I really like it. Good edge retention and toughness, if a little harder to sharpen. I think it's gets unfairly overshadowed by the newer "super steels". I think they made an Endura in the same steel.
you can still buy the caly 3.5 in zdp brand new at almost every dealer
More edc info from the champ son 💪 lol great siping and flipping hun
You might like SK85 from Work Tuff Gear.
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I have several knives in S30V, but none in S35VN or S45VN. How does the latter two compare to each other and are they much better than S30V?
Not much better. Newer versions are easier to sharpen with around the same edge stability
Crafting myself a hourglass today from some hard wood and i pUt a begleri fidget video on my account love your collection
Oh awesome!❤
I think she likes Spyderco
Erica are you gonna get one of those AWT Native 5 LIGHTWEIGHT scales?
Maybe!
Wait they are making scales for the Native LW?!?!?!?
Holy crap I feel like my dream knife might be able to improve. Do we know a release date because I just checked the site and they arent there yet.
@@drunknnirish they’re making them now(: and email will be sent out when they’re released
The knives I use most have Elmax, LC200N, 154CM, M4, S35VN, S90V and 20CV blade steel. My favorite to sharpen is Elmax. Then LC200N, 154CM, and S35VN are all about equal. Then comes M4. And last are S90V and 20CV. Just my untrained observations.
Love that!❤
Awesome video!👍
Thanks D!
I’m in for a k390 Native Lightweight!
Right?!
Do knife nerds recognise you at the store and stuff erica?
I don’t go anywhere really where people would recognize me!🤣
I got my endela in zdp189. Stretch 2 in k390, sharpened i love mt tenacious we got the same one 😆 but i got an m4 delica 8cr13mov resilience and tenacious. I want your s45vn one 🤣 🤣 🔥
Oh and an lc200 salt 2
Nice!!!
Good video. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
D2 is the best EDC steel for me. I have a big collection of EDC blades, s30v, s35vn, m390, s90v and others. And I do use my blades a lot, because I run a flower shop with my wife. And by now my favourite EDC blade is one of my cheapest, the Petrified Fish pf818 in D2 (a very effective design)... Why D2 ? Because it's cheap, holds an edge really well and it's easy to fix. And I'm not afraid to lose it or brake it.
To me the EDC knife culture went in two different groups. First group are knives that are meant to be actually used every day. And the second group is the expensive jewellery fancy steel knives that people are afraid to use, and have them just as quality machined mechanism, more like a toy.
I never saw hard working men (construction or other job) using a 200$+ knife... And if you look at knives under 70$ (a working knife should not cost more) D2 is king in that range.
Thanks for sharing your views and watching!
Funny, Erica's catchphrase is 'use your s#!t' and she definitely uses her knives. So now you can say that you have seen people use their $200 knife.
My ka bar is in 1095 carbon and ive accidentally cut myself looking at it lol 😆
Wow!
Nice choices! 😃
Why thank you!!!!!
I have the delica k390 in my cart now and the warny Erica tell me which one lol
I’m not Erica but definitely go with the Delica Wharnie in k390!
@@clintashmead3558 Coolio thank you sir
Both of course
@@robertj9361 true story 😂
@@robertj9361 or chaperal in hxp
Why use epoxy beads and not ti?
They aren’t epoxy beads so you don’t have to worry! 💕
I no fav yet but I've dealt with 154cm, d2,vg10,14c27,440,st8,5160, and of course the dreaded unlisted stainless steel stamped duds lol but kizer civivi shrade Kershaw seem to be decent with their steels oh and of course buck and old timer dad had were decent enuff 😂
K390 is a *must*
I have only used S35vn, S30v, 1085, 1095, D2, 440...so far I have found the 1095 on my Ka Bar BK2 by far the best steel I have used. Keeps a very sharp edge with a indestructible edge retention. I truly believe there is no need for all these "super steels" in a pocket knife. I think a lot of it is gimmick to jack up prices. Just my opinion. 1095 will do everything just as good.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
For fixed blades, yeah 1095 is fantastic. Ka bar did an especially good job with the way they run their 1095 Cro van. But for pocket knives I think it is just average. I like it, but there are a few steels I would want instead.
You should check out SPY27, cts-xhp, and 154cm/cpm154.
Not “super steels”, but still excellent blade steels that aren’t absurdly priced. They all have a great balance of properties and work well in a variety of applications. And they are fun to sharpen if you are like me and enjoy the process.
I think the Glock knife in spring steel is better than k bar. As far as pocket knife.. It's a whole different ball game. K390 for the win! Or a Benchmade 970 in s30v for fun.
1095 has low edge retention. most budget stainless steels can outlast 1095 in edge retention. 1095 will also rust if you look at it wrong here in the south. 1095 is fine for fixed blades but it makes almost no sense for a folding knife.
One life is not enough for someone who digs knives and G-Ns.
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You seem to like having a lot of carbon in your knives. But why is D2 not on the list then?)
Because it's not a super steel.
@@diezelvh4133there’s also steels that have d2’s edge retention but 10x better toughness and corrosion resistance
I swear D2 is for folders what 1095 is for fixed blades. You're welcome to follow the rest of us into the 21st century. There's this revolutionary and new (for you) alloy called S30V that was designed just for knives! That's the early 2000s for you, wait till you see what they'll come up with in the 2010s!
Interesting choices….
Thanks for watching!
Shnoogle boog D: 🤗❤️🐾
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Lol she said butthurt
Your mom
@@ericasedc Nice
Not a fan of brittle steels.
What is an example of one
@@tizbenMost of the new supersteels are.
Yes. You should be sorry about your white and rigid nails! What a disappointment. I expected more from you
Me too