Steve Jobs Apple Inc First Investment Ashton Kutcher
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Steve Jobs Apples First Investment played by Ashton Kutcher
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I know this isn't Shark Tank...but Barbara is out.
moderndaymidas 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@realkaygrand Steve Jobs was reverse shark tank. "You offered me too less and for that reason, I am out."
Kevin offers $50 a bag of chips and handful of dirt for 80% of the company
@@KingBobIsHere lmfao bro awesome.
ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLL
- "IM SO OUTTTTT"
Thats still a deal of the century
No its not
Yeah, but none of you know s••• about computers nor investments.
I appreciate Ashton’s performance in this movie I feel like he’s taking it a lot seriously than other roles but it wasn’t enough or at least passionate enough to fully project this role.
I personally don't despise his acting skills. But most people really struck their head on the Steve Jobs persona Ashton projected. Steve was very confident when he talk and lots of times very rude to his colleagues due to the vision he really believed in to Apple. Ashton Kutcher demeanor was too plain, too simple. You can't see the fire in his eyes when he was arguing about Lisa project. It needs a charismatic person to impersonate a charismatic person, and I think Fassbender did not incredible but fairly great performance on those things.
This scene was played out as if Steve Jobs was countering and laying down the strong arm for more money, but really a $90k investment at a $300k valuation and a $250k loan at 10% interest is a no brainer for Mike Markkula.
My perspective was that the scene was played out to add business flavor to Steve's character. He wasn't laying down the strong arm for more money, he was laying down the strong arm to run the business. Either way, it doesn't represent what actually happened - at it was Mike who laid down the strong arm in real life.
Yeah an LOC at 10% is insane in todays market. Most LOC's and RLOC's I see are 3.5-5.75% interest rates. Not to mention an LTV of just 30% on the loan alone.
This never happend
Ya, but that’s in today’s post iPhone tech bubble where VCs are desperate to catch the next Uber. Not back then. 300k valuation for an unregistered company that makes hobby boards for geeks would have been a stretch at that time. 99.9999% of the population would not remotely understand what the product was.
What does it mean investment at 300,000?
Very good and underrated movie.
And yes - Ashton Kutcher was actually terrific as Steve Jobs in it!
He sure has the look for it.
Nobody ever talks about the Woz actor. He wasn't like Woz.
1:09 Anytime I see Ashton smile, I think he is pulling a prank on Hyde! Can't take him seriously
I didn't watch the 70's show that much so I didn't get that knee jerk reaction when I saw Ashton as Steve Jobs that others did. He came across as a young Steve Jobs to me. I think the 70s show ruined the movie for many people with that character stereo type of playing dumb kid and that Dude where is my car movie.
@@dbloyd2 nah I never watched the 70s show, Ashton Kutcher is just a bad dramatic actor
nigga thought it was shark tank for a minute there
“Dude where’s my car” ....and then....... no and then!! Hahaha
the music so melodramatic it looks and sounds like an snl spoof
🍷Loved Ashtons performance. I can care less for any fine inaccuracies in the script. I was entertained, and the movie Jobs gave the viewer back something special a gravitas, an inspiration that satisfies the Apple fanboy in most young people.. Those that actually think they could maybe CHANGE THE WORLD! 🕶👍
* Couldn't care less.
This was the best part of the movie.
Big Shaq I agree! I got the goosebumps.
was just about to enjoy it but now , not really feeling it
Ashton Kutcher would have made a decent L in a Death Note movie adaption
This has the feeling on a bad SNL skit.
Yea, like Jobs learned this business lingo studying fonts at community college, please.
At no point in the film, did i forget that This wS Ashton Kutcher lol
reminds me of "Dude!, you're getting a Dell."
now if only i had done this in my salary negotiation
Capitalism at its finest. This is how people get rich, through consensual transactions that benefit both sides.
Higher the risk higher the reward.
You need to have the high ground.
@@amateruss Thats outrageous. That’s unfair! How can I be on the council, and not have the high ground!
i thought capitalism was when your a bank you get in trouble for taking ultra stupid bets and cry wolf to the goverment and get instant stimlous from the fedral reserve? isnt that pure captialism?
@@adiintel1 Nothing about the federal reserve is "capitalistic", it's the opposite.
Capitalism is the best system we have but it's not perfect, nothing wrong with creating safety nets.
Imagine complaining about social programs and conflating that as capitalism.
I'm not even a neo liberal lol! I just hate wrong information.
"no, it's not steve jobs, it's Ashton Kutcher. equally smart....equally handsome"
No bro asthon is good but steve job was legend
It’s Ashton Kootcher
i liked this movie, i liked the other one too!
Pirates of Silicon Valley is the best telling of this story.
True.
Kelso grew up well
Ashton Kutcher is such a Steve Job fanboy.
Can't believe Kelso got serious in life
This is funny and genius at the same time.
I always thought that Kutcher looked like a young Steve jobs
It is nice to see Kevin Malone negotiate like this
Not a lot of people probably realize that Ashton Kutcher by appearance and biologically the most similar actor to play Steve Jobs. His face is similar, his height is the same with 1 cm difference with Steve. But the most important thing is both has very high intelligent and i mean IQ. Ashton Kutcher himself was reported to has an IQ of 160. Steve was also the same class intelligent. Wow
Ashton is american for sure. If he had more arab face to him. Edit : woops just did my research, ashton is actually german and czech descent.
I have 175 IQ and it gets higher and higher with each Rick and Morty episode that I watch.
Damn that makes me want to watch Rick and Morty for sure
Problem is Ashton has made a name for himself as the goofball/idiot character in almost every TV appearance made. He might have some real life similarities to Jobs but its not enough to erase the viewers' memories of him being Kelso or Jesse from Dude where's my car. Psychological conditioning is a nasty thing.
Ashton having an IQ 160? nah
I liked this movie.... i didn't think much of the new one with the chick from Titanic
THINK DIFFERENT!!!
Really cool but never happened. It was Mike who made that offer, not Steve. I guess theyre trying to show how Steve Jobs began to think after a while.
“250,000 credit line with 10% interest to be paid full when net revenue turn positive.” What does this mean?
Calvin Lo, I believe it means that Steve also wanted a loan of 250,000 as credit and he’d pay a 10% interest on it until net revenue (most likely equivalent to profit: revenue-cost) turned positive, so when they made a profit he would pay him back fully
Calvin Lo It's called bad script writing by Hollywood writers that don't understand business. Net Revenue means Gross Revenue minus Sales discounts, allowances, etc. It's the first line of an income statement. There is no such thing as negative revenues. If you sell one computer for fifty dollars and give a mail in rebate of ten dollars... your net revenue will by forty dollars. All other business expenses are deducted from net revenues to arrive at profit or loss. The line doesn't make sense, unless he stated when the "Company generates profit"
greg goodale true.
Net Revenue is basically Gross Profit. Sales minus cost of goods. So Jobs is basically saying he is selling all his computers in a loss, meaning underselling it and when he reaches a point where his company brand gets big enough and can get the cost of goods low enough to make a gross profit, that he will pay back the debt in full. Note that the line of credit is not to be taken for long term debt, it is usually used for business cash rotation purposes because many payments in business is delayed and they will need cash immediately whenever they want to full fill new orders.
It means not only does he want the $90,000 loan he also wants a credit line of $250,000 that the company could use for anything they may need. Anything borrowed would carry a 10% interest rate but Steve is saying he will pay it in full once the products he makes with the $90,000 loan goes positive meaning he’s made enough to pay back the loan and start profiting. Though the way the script was written worded the sentence weird. Probably to make it seem more technical.
90k investment into Apple at 300k valuation today would have 8,166,666.6x to be worth 735 billion dollars. nuts
Jobs speaks to the young people today, to the misfits, to the people who question the status quo. To the people who’d have a calling to do something, don’t give up, believe in your vision, it doesn’t matter ur age, background, gender, do it, take action, life will not betray u, doors will open up for u,
Devi Ma apple became the big brother they hated. Every new generation wants the power that the elder generation has and then they end up becoming the elder generation with the power they don't want to lose and the next generation wants to take from them. This cycle is as old as baby scorpion's eating their mothers corpse.
Fine, I'll watch this movie!
Just lol @ Ashton Kutcher trying to use big boy words. How high was the casting director when this decision was made? LMAOOOO
even i've watch the movie, i don't know whats jobs talking about
i was there, i told Steve its $90,000! take the money! Then i whispered to Woz right after we should go public. How wild is that!- gianni russo
Ok kids, it's a movie. NEVER EVER do that in real life... trust me
I did that and i lost my solar power business biggest iterested investor. I wish I be more realistic and straight.
Ashton kutcher genuinely looks like a younger Steve Jobs. Only thing is his jaw is too masculine. Rid him of that, and they’re spitting images of eachother.
hahaha Kutcher as Jobs?! WTAF?! Is this SNL?!
Everyone in these comments are so douchey. I enjoyed this movie
Ashton and the Woz-actor were spot on- best portrayal I've seen of the 2,, the rest is not as great
Why doesnt this movie get anymore notice
The actor did a TV show and played a dummy character. It would be like if Adam West from Batman from the 1960s played as James Bond or Rambo. It was a type casting that prevented people from seeing the actor as Steve Jobs. It is really sad. People hated it before even watching it.
If you build it.
My first investment was GME at 420$ lol
Dude, where’s my car? 🚙
Love this movie just hard to take Ashton seriously. Something just goofy about him
movie name?
Man, Ashton Kutcher was terrible in this!
Side note: Your life is miserable
@@verycoldice4 Awful acting
@@cainesy7913 wasn't that bad...lol
@@verycoldice4
It really was. But these things are all a matter of opinion, obviously we disagree but it is not worth personally insulting someone over now is it.
I dont understand a word. Can someone explain?
You can feel him acting here, too heavy handed; ‘look i’m being serious and intense!’ I like the guy but wish this was better. The score isn’t helping
What's the movie?
Did you know his middle name was blow ?
Steve was a computer guy, but not a accounting guy.
Seen better dialogue with Ren and Stimpy.
you've just been punk'd
Kelso is steve jobs.ha
Guy didn't shower and didn't believe in medicine. Bizarre
what movie is this please
Michael Fassbender is terrible in this, he's usually amazing. LOL
This is bad it's funny.
Any movie with josh gadd sucks
lol,,, im guna give you a rebuttal that will require no counter offer.... none of this happened so gayly
Kutcher is so cringe
This is a masterclass in how to not write a movie.
Why is this actor so bad?
This seems like a corny film lol
Wow this movie sucked right?
They couldn't cast a good actor?
I thought Woz was the train wreck in this movie. It wasn't the actor for Steve Jobs.
steve jobs literally didnt do shit.
None of these actors fit in my opinion
No wonder this film had such a terrible reception. This writing is terrible and Ashton really does not help
The script writer sucks. I cringe as a business student.
Worst actor ever.
horrible movie.....
Jobs was a horrible person.
no sound wtf?
WHAT?
Nah just having pc audio issues for no good reason :)
I watch my hardcore at full bore my friend :) lol
@Al Barleta *maybe you're deaf*
@@hudcofudco *WHAT?*
😂
@@albarleta2511 HAHAHA
The music, the camera work, the acting. All fucking god awful
You're right about all, except one thing...
Dermot Mulroney, hits all his marks, as usual!
This was the worst movie ive ever seen in my life
"Net revenue positive"
Thyat just means that they are earning more then they are spending
"Paid in full ?? Nah sorry "
I think it means they have to pay the loan off before showing profits. If they are earning more than they are spending, then the excess needs to pay down the principal of the loan until its gone.
The phrasing is a bit awkward here (it is a movie after all) but I think the concept is sound. They don't get to do things like issue dividends or build capital from profits until the loan is paid off. I bought the scene as being "good enough" in terms of demonstrating Jobs knew enough about finance to impress Markula (which probably wasn't even true anyway, but again, it's a movie).
Can’t take Ashton serious.
I KNOW RIGHT!
Just keeps reminding me of Kelso
He keeps reminding me of Walden
-ly
Tommy Owen YOU’VE BEEN PUNK’D!!!!!
Sounds like shark tank. The funnier thing is that Aston was actually on shark tank 😂
"And then" said Steve Jobs, "I'm going to drink juice to cure my cancer."
@Creepy Lobster yea but he did some silliness
Low blow.
I laughed so hard when I read this HAHAHAAHAHAHA.
I mean it’s gallows humor but there are plenty of people on UA-cam that tell you juice or veganism will cure you and that’s the sad part
@Creepy Lobster he waited too late to have conventional treatment. Juice doesn’t cure cancer
Insanely overglorified
Beekibye jealousy sucks
Brent Taylor Actually you know what? I think he was a dick and an asshole as a person, but I admire him at the same time, he was a visionary and believe it or not he has taught me a lot.
I'm just stating that the movie overglorified him.
everything about him is overglorified. And you arent wrong. He was an asshole as a person but one of the greatest saleman. Though, I would say he got nothing on Elon Musk.
Youre right man, he was a cut throat. Totally wouldn't have a beer with him.
I never saw this movie, but just from this scene I can tell the other one is better XD
Should watch it, showed more depth into where they came from and where they ended up. Talks much more about the company in this movie than the other in my opinion.
This one is way better. You just haven't watched this.
This one is the best!
@@drchandreshdixit708 i have seen both, also wozniak said that this movie was very inaccurate
@@mercxi Wozniak... hmmm
10% interest was good back then. Mortgages were running at 18%. Plus as pointed out below, 90K/300K = 30% of the company. The credit line if anything is a money maker. Its a great investment (assuming computers take off) and not good for apple/jobs
Most people had no clue what a computer was. They didn't know what it did or what it would come to do. He made a fantastic investment into a garage filled with tech savvy geeks, plastic, glue and metal wire. Not exactly protocol. In hindsight a great investment, but at the time... I wouldn't have done it atleast
I'm a bit ignorant with finances. Is that 10% per year? Are loans always denominated like that - interest per year?
they made the guy like an iluminated genius 🤣 looks ridiculous
If this is true, the initial investors came up with 30% stake in Apple
Yes but they sold their stakes. For a profit yes, but tragically way too early.
Horrible acting. Really embarrassing. To think that not long ago the US favored actors like Hoffman, Newman, Pacino, Hackman and Eastwood.
Gosh, this Woz actor was so friggin bad. lol. Looks like they went to their local comic book store and picked some guy from inside there.
BUUUURNNNNNNNNN
Have a beer Kelso!
feels weird seeing ashton kutcher as the smart guy after watching him as michael kelso in that 70s show lmao
@@SeanChandlerSF
My first thought was The Butterfly Effect.
After being blown away by Sorkin’s writing and Fassbender’s acting, this is just....awful. Lol
Fassbender looked, acted and sounded nothing like Steve. I spent most of the film thinking who the fuck is this? It’s not Steve Jobs because Steve looks nothing like that
This is the best interpretation of steve
🍷Like to agree to disagree there. This version of Jobs remains forever most entertaining and satisfying as a movie. 🍿🎥
The Fassbender movie was a complete fabrication. It was more of a psychological study than a biography. They twisted actual events beyond recognition, despite the claim that it was based on Walter Isaacson's biography.
Cringe
I love this Film i love this company the Philosophie, everything was great, thanks Steve!!
Philosophie is gewd
🍷yup same here! Loved Ashton.
Gosh this sucks so much.
I glad to see that Kevin has landed on his feet after getting sacked by Dwight
Badly edited
An hour later Alan Harper showed up and moved into the garage
Ive always thought young steve jobs looked like Ashten kutcher
kutcher looked like Jobs.