In swan lake, the actual choreography is opposite between the white and black swans. the white swan's dancing is flowy and soft, while the black swan's dance is sharp, jagged, and quick.
As opposed to in the movie where the white swan is quick and naive while the black swan is slow and seductive, almost teasing while the white swan is like an innocent creature not wanting to be wrapped up with a more intimidating figure (I believe, pls correct me if I’m wrong)
It really really depends on the production & vision of the director. Every version is different. It makes sense that for Thomas (the director in this movie who is sexually predatory) that he would want to emphasise the 'sexuality/sensuality' of Odile. It seems very in-keeping with his character in this film.
Any woman who has used public transport will have a handful of first-hand stories about this type of thing. Trains, buses, hell. Even uber drivers can be creepy af.
One of my favorite little details in this movie is how often Rothbart shows up in Nina's hallucinations as a terrifying vision of danger, but backstage during the first performance, the dancer portraying Rothbart is very nice and courteous to Nina and is one of the first to ask if she's okay after her onstage fall.
Are you implying that the male dancer portraying Rothbart in this scene isn't the actual Rothbart of our story, but is, in fact, the manipulative theater director Thomas? Is this what you're saying since Thomas is otherwise so emphatic that the people he casts in his productions must first embody their characters in their everyday lives in order to gain his approval? Since this male dancer clearly doesn't, it can only mean that Thomas is Rothbart instead?
The dirrecter kissing Nina SHOULD make everybody's skin crawl. Do we need to point that out? There are a lot of industries like this where beautiful young women perform a public facing role and are quite interchangable and disposable, especially when they age out and men,who hold a lot of the decisionmaking power, never expire from their power roles. It's a set-up for abuse, sexual and otherwise. It's about the manipulative power imballance and Nina's persistent feeling that maturation as an artist and a person must happen mostly on someone else's terms, schedule and standard.
I feel like he missed so many themes revolving around girlhood to womenhood and the constant sexual exploitation and harassment of nina… frustrating lol
@@SamMcGee-kv8otappears like a stupid guy (not an intelligent or sensitive one) so of course he’ll miss some of the most fundamental themes… it’s like he’s just researched and regurgitated surface level analyses online.
My sister did ballet and that world is so incredibly toxic sexual harassment, verbal abuse, injury and eating disorders etc are RAMPANT yet they're still paid next to nothing
Many men have the same experience though. Just look at Justin Bieber and him being near now known P-Diddy, Stop pretending that it is a women-only problem or only men abusing their power.
I agree that it does a wonderful job at showing the mirroring between Odette and Odile. Lily wasn't cruel or evil. She was just another woman trying to survive in their world.
The mom is also symbolic of the Queen from the ballet. In the show, she throws a ball for her son the Prince, the day after his birthday to have him settle down before he’s to become king. She pushes him to where he goes hunting in the woods and finds Odette. And Beth is based on The Dying Swan. While not in the ballet, it’s a dance based on the old wives tale of swans singing before they die. Beth is literally dying.
I was shocked to learn that Winona Ryder was Beth in the film. I hadn’t seen her in many movies at the time I saw “Black Swan” and knew of her shoplifting arrest, but she really was great as the aging prima who is pushed out by the younger ingenue; yet look how Winona has rebuilt her own career 😊
Thank you for posting this! I was the Associate Choreographer on the film as well as overseeing Nat & Mila’s training. I look forward to really watching this in the next few hours
You keep saying that Nina throws up because she is sick while I believe it's because she's bulimic, ED in dancers is very common due to the pressure teachers put on the students to be thin, me and my sister did ballet for many years and both of us had body issues due to the toxic dance culture
I was a dancer from 4 to 18. As well as modeling, and pageants. I still suffer from body image issues due to growing up in that environment. There is SO much pressure at such an young age to be perfect, to be thin that sticks with you.
@@nicholas-dv1mgis dealing with the mental defecits that you clearly display hard? I'm guessing it isn't, because you clearly dismiss any kind of scrutiny directed towards you as easily as you dismiss the scrutiny anyone else experiences. Stay blessed in your views and jog on.
@@nicholas-dv1mgwhen ur not naturally thin yes. I know ur comment was meant to be a joke bc 'haha its hard being skinny' but take into account especially as a child many of us are put onto very strict diets ranging between 600-1500cals a day and workout for 12+hrs a day burning almost 3-4000, so we are often extremely tired, unhappy, grumpy, and genuinely very irritable which is where the 'dancers are so rude and stuck up' stigma comes from. Meanwhile other athletes like football/soccer players are allowed and encouraged to eat to match the calories they burn we arent and instead were told eating any more than allowed will immediately ruin our bodies and make us so horribly fat and ugly. Even the men who do ballet are given more leniency in what they eat, what they wear, working out less etc. So yes make all the jokes you want weve heard them all.
It's not just being thin. I grew up with girls who were boney thin and they hated how “fat” they felt. It’s more about negative vs positive body image, not necessarily being thin. Some people also want to fit beauty standards they aspire to have (e.g. flawless skin, bigger muscles, tinier waist, more pronounced cheekbones, longer neck, etc.) Some traits are unattainable due to genetics or age, which is likely why people would spend on medical procedures. There's a thin actress in my country, who got a botched fat reduction in her arms so her skin got burned. She's already thin and beautiful but she felt that she needed a procedure to get "thinner" arms. She didn't even have "bat wings" at all but she was self-conscious about her arms because she always had to go sleeveless at her job.
I did not expect Blackswan to get a video. I LOVE THIS!! ‼️‼️SPOILER‼️‼️ I liked your interpretation and the parallels of The Wrestler and Blackswan. I use to be a WWE fan, and have seen many careers fade over 15 years of viewership where wrestlers tried to claim their former glory but couldn’t. I took Nina’s fade of white as she went out in a blaze of glory while the wrestler’s black out was a star that burned out.
That was actually Aronofsky's original idea. The story of the main protagonists in the wrestler & the black swan were initially written as one long, epic film about the parallels between their worlds, before being convinced that each could be its own film
Thomas is super-predatory, an indication of how damaging the ballet world is, how damaging a lot of super-competitive industries are that trade on the bodies/looks/youth of women. Beth is a cautionary tale, irrevocably damaged emotionally & psychologically from being used & discarded by that world & the men who control it (Thomas etc). Nina's mother Erica, was definitely a dancer in the past & trying to control Nina & live out her unmet expectations vicariously through her, although she also feels unaddressed envy for her daughter & obsession (consider the hundreds of drawings). There's also heavy implication that there may be/have been some maternal sexual abuse going on in the household. Nina's infantalisation, & her regression to babyish behaviour (like eating frosting from her mother's finger) as an attempt to placate her takes on an even darker tone when seen through that interpretation.
Natalie deserved that Oscar given how difficult this role was. I mean she went from an assassin protege at age 12 in “Leon” to playing this mentally tortured prima ballerina. Her dance double, Sarah Lane, does deserve credit for the much more intricate routines but Natalie’s training shouldn’t be understated as she (as well as Mila) put in the work to do enough of her own dancing. I remember this was an awkward movie to watch with my dad in the theatre 😅
Your deep-dives are what makes your movie recaps and explanations so much more gripping than other channels’ I’m kinda blown away you went that deep to even connect it to Perfect Blue, an infamous psychological horror
perfect is addictive. I was working on a project thing and spent almost three days and nights up working, not caring about food or water. Beyond sleep-deprived, I got freaked out and zoned out from tiredness and fell, leaving my side temple with a scar. Always remember your project, instrument, or thing will be there tomorrow and probably be easier with sleep.
Perfection and happiness (two sides of the same coin in my eyes) is horrifyingly addictive. The levels or extremes people are willing to go to get that temporary high can be very disturbing, and this movie is an excellent example of that. And the worst aspect, is the more you chase those temporary highs the thresholds for them shift. Perfecting is raised higher and being happy can go lower (in terms of meeting it or the feeling itself)
All artists I know (no matter the art form) myself included struggle with the obsession with perfection. It can get so intense that it trickles into other aspects of life. The worst part is perfection doesn't exist but we're still chasing it while being fully aware
Black Swan is its own film but if the director was honest about Satoshi Kon being a film inspiration instead of always denying it wouldn't have bothered me so much. Jordan Peele is honest about anime being an inspiration for him, and when I catch a reference it makes me happy. Satoshi is an incredible visionary and Darren acting like he never saw Perfect Blue when we can all tell he has seen Perfect Blue makes me so annoyed for it feels like a showcase of how animation isn't a respected medium.
I'm so mad that I'm finding out right now that Winona Ryder was in this. All I remember is Natalie and Mila but more so Natalie's transformation. They drug that out real bad.
When I first saw this movie, I watched it over and over again. My mom was worried at the time because I was diagnosed with depression and anxiety, and she saw the movie, and throught it would set me back, but it actually helped me alot. I still love this creepy movie. 🎬
Crazy how not a lot of content creators actually bring up Satoshi Kon's work, so I'm glad that in 2024, someone's publishing it through film analysis. Loved your breakdown by the way! Highly recommend Battle Royale if you haven't seen it already.
I can relate to this movie a lot. I took Ballet for 6 years and enjoyed every moment of it. I wanted to make a career but my mom forced me to quit when I turned 18.
@@ar-1632 I can't really say because to this day I honestly don't know. I have my guesses the main one being money. I wasn't driving at the time (and still don't.) And she gave me an ultimatum. Either I learn the bus routes or I can stop going. I didn't know the bus routes that well back then and I didn't have a cell phone either. If I wound up getting lost I'd have no way to call her. There's also the fact she would constantly tell me because I didn't start early enough I could never make it a career. Pointing out all the other people who were far more graceful because they started from like 6 years old. I started when I was 13 because of how interested I was and a friend of hers was a teacher. But no matter how hard I practiced and how much passion I showed for it, she would always say "You didn't start early enough." Every single time. It eventually got to me. And that spring was the last performance I ever did.
I did Ballet until I was around 15 and we did Swan Lake. I was one of the little swans and one of the older dancers was the white and black swans. Though we didn’t talk much, I could definitely see she was struggling. I think she was only 17 and all the pressure of being the main dancer was definitely having a bad toll on her mental health. And after we did the last show, she literally stormed outside and screamed her heart out. So this movie definitely brought back memories.
For people my age, Aranofsky's films are refreshing. Each time there's a paradigm shift in horror, it's great for those of us who love it...that includes all subgenres of it. This was a great breakdown. Some of the analysis was a little obvious, but you broke it down very well. Don't be so hard on yourself ffs. YT is kicking everyone in the nuts rn.
Caylee explained why she was leaving back when she left. I was one of her subscribers at the time. She had explained that it was because the true crime content she had been doing had been taking a major toll on her mental health and she so she was taking a break. Then much later she announced on her socials that she had been offered a very lucrative job opportunity, thanked everyone for the immense support over the years and said goodbye permanently.
I used to watch her all the time. I hope she’s happy and living her best life wherever she is! I remember being a subscriber telling her to check on her mental health because her deep dives were so detailed that being so immersed in her work could be devastating for her.
That is great to hear! I wasn't on any socials back then, so, I had no idea that she was offered a great job, all I knew was that she was searching for one and that one day her channel disapeared off of youtube. Hope she is happy and thriving!
@@ladya3302There's a few pretty visceral scenes lol .. Ninas legs snapping and turning to a swan, murdering Lily was brutal af, the lady stabbing herself in the face etc .. yeah it's psychological but there's definitely scenes that are visibly gory as hell lol
there’s no better example of how humanity sees ourselves in art which will always touch us where we are than youtubers telling us “this is just like youtube actually!” which might seem sort of baffling but the art is just doing its thing of meeting us where we are. kind of adorable really.
To me the reason why denying the inspiration of Perfect Blue looks so much worse is because, in comparison to how vocal they were about the inspiration on the Black Swan ballet, it feels like a slap in the face. I think there are so many similarities that this movie is as much of a retelling of the ballet as it is a retelling of Perfect Blue, even if the story of the Black Swan is part of the movie itself.
It's also a lie, as the director of Black Swan originally wanted to adapt Perfect Blue into live action but after trying to obtain the rights to Perfect Blue fell through, as the creator of PB thought that the movie wouldn't fit into an American setting since a lot of Mima's struggles and nuance come from Japanese culture at the time, the director of Black Swan decided to create Black Swan instead, which is clearly very heavily inspired from Perfect Blue and many scenes and imagery are shot for shot from Perfect Blue.
I find it funny that Perfect blue is regarded as "inspiration" for black swan when black swan is straight up a rip off perfect blue. The director even denied the similarities in interviews at the time even when black swan copied entire scenes down to the camera angles.
@@TheoRae8289 Back in 2011 , the director Aronovsky went on a TV interview in france and was asked if he "knew the japanese movie : Perfect blue" , he refused to answer and left the set. That was embarrassing.
I think it's extremely narrow-minded to call it a "rip-off" of perfect blue. I've seen both movies and yes they share a lot of similarities but I definitely think black swan has an identity of its own.
There is a quote from Dune by Frank Herbert, which really sum up the theme of Nina's pursuit of perfection, it's a very long quote so I will post only two sentences from it: "(...)it is possible to see peril in the finding of ultimate perfection. It is clear that the ultimate pattern contains its own fixity. In such perfection, all things move toward death."
Tbh, this movie has always bothered me for the reason that its basically a narrative copy of Perfect Blue, which doesnt even remotely get enough recognition as an anime from a time where animes were seen different by most people. And it's by far the only example... That will never go away for me.
Same, I still really like it, but it's a shameless copy of Perfect Blue that got more recognition than PB ever did. It also puts a bad taste in my mouth, as the director of Black Swan originally wanted to adapt Perfect Blue into live action but after trying to obtain the rights to Perfect Blue fell through, as the creator of PB thought that the movie wouldn't fit into an American setting since a lot of Mima's struggles and nuance come from Japanese culture, the director of Black Swan then decided to create Black Swan instead, which is clearly very heavily inspired from Perfect Blue and many scenes and imagery are shot for shot from Perfect Blue.
11:09 I can see why she would panic. Even if she is a good dancer, she got the part not because of a technical audition but because of this weird interaction. So, she's kinda right to feel like an imposter, and she would be treated as such by members of the company if she failed.
bro natalie put in the work to lose a crazy amount of weight and learn at least basic ballet, which is something that isnt included in a normal actor's skillset. i dont think anyone would be silly enough to assume she gained in a few months the skillset of a professional ballet dancer, but that shouldn't disregard the crazy amount of work she had to go thru, in ADDITION to a very difficult acting role (her actual job). a stunt double is necessary to preserve the quality and believability of the movie. idk trying to discredit her work and efforts sucks imo
This was one of my favorite movies when it came out. As a writer I definitely struggled with writing my second book until I just embraced the fact that I don’t have to out do myself. Now I’ve written 7 and about to work on my eight and my first screen play. Also I love the hidden last part about another one of my favorite films. Perfect Blue is amazing.
I always liked this movie as part of the psychological aspect of it, especially how early in the movie she sees someone else have her face and also the fact that that whole love scene was completely in her head really shows how far she’s gone. Also, her mother might’ve played a factor in it given the fact that she was put under a lot of pressure her mother.
To be fair, the issues regarding body-image and media go back WAY before online social-media. But yes; I can personally attest to the EXTREME effect it has on young people, especially women, by what I've seen it do to some of my younger friends. I'm personally not on social media that much, but I still wouldn't wish that kind of thing on anyone. =\ Great video! =)
Yeah that was a real L take. There is a massive difference between wanting to be in shape and having body dysmorphia. You can't obtain the kinds of bodies you see idolized in say, balletcore without doing some serious calorie restricting which for a lot of people can easily roll over into a full blown eating disorder. You can't look like, say, the Liver King without steroids. You can't get the full slim-thick flat tummy, big butt, big boobs look without padding, shapewear, and/or plastic surgery. There is a healthy medium between being completely sedentary and being completely obsessive. If you're a normal person who goes to the gym three times a week and eats a lot of fruits and vegetables, you will never look like a movie star, but you will be a lot healthier and feel a lot better than if you didn't.
@@sersergv I have no idea what half those things you mentioned are. And I think you misunderstood the intent of my statement. I don't think you're wrong, but I what I was trying to say, in a more simplified way, was that it's a complex and nuanced issue with many different effects and outcomes on a wide variety of people. And I also wanted to point out that the origins of such issues go back even before social media. And yes, ballet is very demanding. I wasn't disagreeing, just sharing my individual experience. =)
Cayleigh Elise was one of my favorite creators, I used to watch her stuff all the time. The little shout-out sent my mind reeling backwards through time.
Same! I had to replay that part of the video to make sure that I am not making stuff up. So happy she is remembered by today's biggest horror yourubers!
If there’s anyone who can do a fairly complete analysis on the abuse Nina faced from her mother, the ballet world, and especially that predatory ballet director, picking up on all the subtext and the parallels to the darker endings of Swan Lake… it would be CZ.
Ballet pro dancer here, who was trained by her mother who also was a pro ballet dancer. The scariest part of Black Swan is that the lesson you're told since you're very young it's perfectly reflected on the movie mottif: If you can trip the girl next to you, and break her leg, do it because is one less obstacle, it's one less person going for your role, is one more step stone to the top, because at the end, it's all that matters to you. that one minute of applause.
I don't know if this means anything Zac or if you drew your parallel for the video only but, I wanna say that beyond your personality that I enjoy a lot, you put out amazing content, all the effort that you dedicate to your videos it shows and it's been like this since I started watching you (>100k subs).
I adore this movie as well as the original ballet. This was a great choice. Really appreciate the subliminal analysis because I've never spotted them before.
This is the first time I've come across one of your videos and I really enjoyed listening to you. Your analysis was excellent, complete and very relevant. I never had the opportunity to watch this film although I always wanted to see it. After listening to you, I no longer need to see it. Excellent work thank you.
Is anybody checking on cz? You guys are talking about the video and missing Cz making eery parallels.. Hope youre doing good bro. Love the channel. Dont keep trying to out do yourself to the point of doing yourself in
just yours and my comment which i just left even mentioned his notes about how the parallels affect him. hope he is doing well. youtube can be unforgiving, because we are consuming the products of hard work, often without realising the impact and toll it takes on the makers. thanks for caring, brother.
Idk the whole "mima/nina" sounds a lot like "kimba/simba??? Suspicious" bullshit of kimba the white lion vs lion king. I can see the influences but its also doing a disservice to the actual swan lake story. Also the ending of Perfect Blue being the focus on the assistance commiting the murders is less impactful when Black Swan is all about Nina and how far she pushed herself to losing her mind.
I suffer a lot from Imposter Syndrome, especially when I make art that looks stunning but I look at it and think "This wasn't me" when I knew it was me who painted it. It's a horrible feeling and I can see why Black Swan is so loved by many artists for exposing how imposter symdrome can impact someone. Also, I'd like to see you do a video on Perfect Blue, I really love that film!
I always thought this movie was also a good representation of the actors/actresses who go too far into their role, like too far into method acting, and is almost like a cautionary tale of sorts in that aspect too
I've seen Black Swan around fifty times now, and in fact had just put it in the Blu-ray player when your video came out, so I was pretty excited to watch this today. It's a great video, though I'm sorry to say you did flub some of the details: Nina isn't a virgin, and doesn't die at the end (Natalie Portman believes Nina only killed the white swan, so she could move on with her life and mature, which I think better fits the genius of Aronofsky's work; though Barbara Hershey does think she died... but Barbara Hershey also swears up and down that she never had plastic surgery, so I take her opinion with a small Siberian salt mine), Thomas is The Gentleman and not The Prince (and I think it's important to understand that he's not trying to get any kind of sexual gratification from Nina, nor do I think he gave her the role because of anything sexual - those scenes are never about his penis. It took me a lot of viewings to see that - I think he's just very French and is trying to unfreeze Nina in the way his culture provides for), and I'm pretty sure the stills you pulled from the club scene show Nina with Tom, not Andrew... but I do want to thank you for showing me a lot of things in this beloved movie that I haven't noticed in fifty viewings, like the black swan in Nina's stuffed animals, most of the club scene subliminals that I haven't had the wherewithal to frame-by-frame through, and the extent of the black versus white theming that I hadn't fully caught on to, like with the lipstick cases and the decorations in Thomas's condo. Overall, not a perfect video (ironically enough), but absolutely one of value that I appreciate and enjoyed.
I’ve always liked the Black Swan, but I admittedly watched it when I was too young to understand much of what was going on (like 11 or something). This video was such a good analysis now that I’m older.
7:24 I like something Alien Cinema pointed out: her taking Beth's makeup has the same feeling of a little girl sneaking her mom's makeup out of childhood curiosity, which goes along with her being a little girl in the beginning of the film
Caileigh Elise did end her career with a video where she explains that she is prioritising her mental health and she won’t be back on youtube. After that, she deleted her account. Those who weren’t actively following her on every video might have missed it
That was the best black swan deep dive video I’ve seen ! Black swan is in my top 5 movie of all time. You did ur homework good sir ! I’m blown away. That was a great video. Cheers
So, as far as media causing body dysmorphia, I think it can never be said enough. Now you have so many women wanting that ant body so they go under the knife with questionable doctors to get high cheeks, full lips, wide hips and large behinds. These fashionable trends have always been problem but since photography we've been bombarded with the images and social media has made it worse
Oh I LOVE Perfect Blue! I saw it on a date in theaters when i was younger and it's been one of my favorites since. i had no idea that it inspired Black Swan! That's amazing!
As someone who used to do ballet as a kid, using the full wall of mirrors in the studio to improve your skills is very accurate. I’d always look at the mirror to improve my skills. I don’t do ballet anymore due to my leg, but the mirror thing is again, is very accurate. 👍🏻
Goosebumps usually appear on people’s skin in very cool weather or when they get the creeps. That’s why the famous franchise Goosebumps is called that.
Amazing analyze! I’ve watched countless of videos about this but specifically the Black Swan in the room I havent heard of before! And the Club scene!!! Im sure more stuff you mentioned but this specifically stood out. 🙌🏻 hats off
Your tangent about the pressures of beauty standards was not necessary in this commentary and also, as a man, you have zero stance on the issue of the pressures that are placed on women to look a certain way. Its not 2013 anymore, true, but its not like those pressures or stigmas aren’t still prevalent in today’s age.
Yeah that was a real L take. There is a massive difference between wanting to be in shape and having body dysmorphia. You can't obtain the kinds of bodies you see idolized in say, balletcore without doing some serious calorie restricting which for a lot of people can easily roll over into a full blown eating disorder. You can't look like, say, the Liver King without steroids. You can't get the full slim-thick flat tummy, big butt, big boobs look without padding, shapewear, and/or plastic surgery. There is a healthy medium between being completely sedentary and being completely obsessive. If you're a normal person who goes to the gym three times a week and eats a lot of fruits and vegetables, you will never look like a movie star, but you will be a lot healthier and feel a lot better than if you didn't.
I will say I was at one point in my life in a way like Mima/Nina. I was in my early twenties trying so hard to become a professional cosplayer that I was doing a photoshoot every month with whatever money I had in the hopes to grow my content and save up for breast surgery to my boobs as big as Jessica Nigri and Yaya Han. But seeing their images and other famous cosplay influencers on my feed cause me to have server BD and ED that I was realizing after all that, I just wanted to be happy and not care about my feed or how I look in a costume. I still suffer issues with my body, but I’m trying to keep a healthy diet that doesn’t do to much to my body, and surround myself with friends and family who see me for me. I respect your view point on dangers of social media being over used, I still see it as an issue for those with low self esteem.
I just watched The Black Swan Yesterday it was a Really Cool Movie and Natalie Portman was The Sole Reason I gotten into Watching This Film and her Performance was Incredible.
As a dancer, I approve of this Horror History video. And I would like to talk about the whole Nina being dropped on stage a bit. No amount of practice or preparation can prevent anything from happening during a performance, I have fallen a lot on stage and have made it look like a dance move instead. Since Nina and the others were under a lot of pressure to be perfect, she was in shock and so much so that she couldn't make it look like part of the choreography.
I'm actually really mad. I figured she had a body double for most of it....seeing as people train their ENTIRE LIFE for this role....and they legit made it seem as if she did the entire movie. I thought that but was so confused as I am a dancer myself
@@TheAllieBuba Same! I only had some lessons for adults (then it was 2020, and I couldn't go anymore because of the virus), but I was always interested in ballet and dance, so I found it really annoying and unfair that they didn't mention Sarah as her dance double! ❤️ And I think N. Portman's later husband additionally dumped his then- girlfriend, Isabella Boylston, another wonderful balett dancer from ABT, because of N.P. This movie definitely is great, but there are many things connected that are just a mess 🙈...
In swan lake, the actual choreography is opposite between the white and black swans. the white swan's dancing is flowy and soft, while the black swan's dance is sharp, jagged, and quick.
As opposed to in the movie where the white swan is quick and naive while the black swan is slow and seductive, almost teasing while the white swan is like an innocent creature not wanting to be wrapped up with a more intimidating figure (I believe, pls correct me if I’m wrong)
Well in movie it's exactly like swan lake@@nationalinstituteofcheese3012
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It really really depends on the production & vision of the director. Every version is different. It makes sense that for Thomas (the director in this movie who is sexually predatory) that he would want to emphasise the 'sexuality/sensuality' of Odile. It seems very in-keeping with his character in this film.
@aroha9090 this is true as well!
The guy in the subway is definitely not meant as an hallucination. That's just the risk you take riding the subways in NYC.
Yup. Los angeles as well
Every bigger city. Same in different countries, not just the U.S.
Yup, you find freaks like that on the trains in Dallas too.
In Germany as well
Any woman who has used public transport will have a handful of first-hand stories about this type of thing. Trains, buses, hell. Even uber drivers can be creepy af.
One of my favorite little details in this movie is how often Rothbart shows up in Nina's hallucinations as a terrifying vision of danger, but backstage during the first performance, the dancer portraying Rothbart is very nice and courteous to Nina and is one of the first to ask if she's okay after her onstage fall.
Are you implying that the male dancer portraying Rothbart in this scene isn't the actual Rothbart of our story, but is, in fact, the manipulative theater director Thomas? Is this what you're saying since Thomas is otherwise so emphatic that the people he casts in his productions must first embody their characters in their everyday lives in order to gain his approval? Since this male dancer clearly doesn't, it can only mean that Thomas is Rothbart instead?
@@Britton_Thompson Do relax.
Those poor stuffed animals. They didn't do anything to anyone 😔
real
In real life, I feel like that would be an excellent donation to a second-hand shop. It'd absolutely make any little kids' day.
@@hopelessromantic3786 I was thinking the same thing!
For real
So true😢
The dirrecter kissing Nina SHOULD make everybody's skin crawl. Do we need to point that out? There are a lot of industries like this where beautiful young women perform a public facing role and are quite interchangable and disposable, especially when they age out and men,who hold a lot of the decisionmaking power, never expire from their power roles. It's a set-up for abuse, sexual and otherwise. It's about the manipulative power imballance and Nina's persistent feeling that maturation as an artist and a person must happen mostly on someone else's terms, schedule and standard.
I feel like he missed so many themes revolving around girlhood to womenhood and the constant sexual exploitation and harassment of nina… frustrating lol
@@SamMcGee-kv8otappears like a stupid guy (not an intelligent or sensitive one) so of course he’ll miss some of the most fundamental themes… it’s like he’s just researched and regurgitated surface level analyses online.
My sister did ballet and that world is so incredibly toxic sexual harassment, verbal abuse, injury and eating disorders etc are RAMPANT yet they're still paid next to nothing
Many men have the same experience though. Just look at Justin Bieber and him being near now known P-Diddy,
Stop pretending that it is a women-only problem or only men abusing their power.
It's interesting that although Lily tried to sabotage Nina, she wasn't intentionally harming her at all, Odile wanted the Prince, not killing Odette
I agree that it does a wonderful job at showing the mirroring between Odette and Odile.
Lily wasn't cruel or evil. She was just another woman trying to survive in their world.
The mom is also symbolic of the Queen from the ballet. In the show, she throws a ball for her son the Prince, the day after his birthday to have him settle down before he’s to become king. She pushes him to where he goes hunting in the woods and finds Odette. And Beth is based on The Dying Swan. While not in the ballet, it’s a dance based on the old wives tale of swans singing before they die. Beth is literally dying.
I was shocked to learn that Winona Ryder was Beth in the film. I hadn’t seen her in many movies at the time I saw “Black Swan” and knew of her shoplifting arrest, but she really was great as the aging prima who is pushed out by the younger ingenue; yet look how Winona has rebuilt her own career 😊
Thank you for posting this! I was the Associate Choreographer on the film as well as overseeing Nat & Mila’s training. I look forward to really watching this in the next few hours
How was it like to work with Natalie Portman ?
you guys are amazing!!👍
When you watch this video, you'll realize how insane this is. Natalie nor Mila actually did much dancing...
What training...? Mila doesn't dance in the movie and Natalie almost rarely does...
Thank you so much for this movie! It's a masterpiece 🤩
You keep saying that Nina throws up because she is sick while I believe it's because she's bulimic, ED in dancers is very common due to the pressure teachers put on the students to be thin, me and my sister did ballet for many years and both of us had body issues due to the toxic dance culture
and she doesn't eats, or eats very little (a poached egg and half a grapefruit) which are shown in the first scenes of the film.
I went looking for a comment mentioning this. Completely agree.
I was a dancer from 4 to 18. As well as modeling, and pageants. I still suffer from body image issues due to growing up in that environment. There is SO much pressure at such an young age to be perfect, to be thin that sticks with you.
is being thin hard?
@@nicholas-dv1mgis dealing with the mental defecits that you clearly display hard? I'm guessing it isn't, because you clearly dismiss any kind of scrutiny directed towards you as easily as you dismiss the scrutiny anyone else experiences. Stay blessed in your views and jog on.
@@nicholas-dv1mgwhen ur not naturally thin yes. I know ur comment was meant to be a joke bc 'haha its hard being skinny' but take into account especially as a child many of us are put onto very strict diets ranging between 600-1500cals a day and workout for 12+hrs a day burning almost 3-4000, so we are often extremely tired, unhappy, grumpy, and genuinely very irritable which is where the 'dancers are so rude and stuck up' stigma comes from. Meanwhile other athletes like football/soccer players are allowed and encouraged to eat to match the calories they burn we arent and instead were told eating any more than allowed will immediately ruin our bodies and make us so horribly fat and ugly. Even the men who do ballet are given more leniency in what they eat, what they wear, working out less etc. So yes make all the jokes you want weve heard them all.
@@nicholas-dv1mgyes, being thin is hard. Some ppl are naturally thin, most ppl have to work for it. But, it's definitely worth it!
It's not just being thin. I grew up with girls who were boney thin and they hated how “fat” they felt. It’s more about negative vs positive body image, not necessarily being thin. Some people also want to fit beauty standards they aspire to have (e.g. flawless skin, bigger muscles, tinier waist, more pronounced cheekbones, longer neck, etc.) Some traits are unattainable due to genetics or age, which is likely why people would spend on medical procedures. There's a thin actress in my country, who got a botched fat reduction in her arms so her skin got burned. She's already thin and beautiful but she felt that she needed a procedure to get "thinner" arms. She didn't even have "bat wings" at all but she was self-conscious about her arms because she always had to go sleeveless at her job.
Percect Blue!! Such a great anime. Never even really thought about the similarities with Black Swan and Perfect Blue. Black Swan was an amazing film
I did not expect Blackswan to get a video. I LOVE THIS!!
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I liked your interpretation and the parallels of The Wrestler and Blackswan. I use to be a WWE fan, and have seen many careers fade over 15 years of viewership where wrestlers tried to claim their former glory but couldn’t.
I took Nina’s fade of white as she went out in a blaze of glory while the wrestler’s black out was a star that burned out.
Watching Dark Side of the Ring and just how often the real world paralleled that movie fuuuuck
That was actually Aronofsky's original idea. The story of the main protagonists in the wrestler & the black swan were initially written as one long, epic film about the parallels between their worlds, before being convinced that each could be its own film
Thomas is super-predatory, an indication of how damaging the ballet world is, how damaging a lot of super-competitive industries are that trade on the bodies/looks/youth of women. Beth is a cautionary tale, irrevocably damaged emotionally & psychologically from being used & discarded by that world & the men who control it (Thomas etc). Nina's mother Erica, was definitely a dancer in the past & trying to control Nina & live out her unmet expectations vicariously through her, although she also feels unaddressed envy for her daughter & obsession (consider the hundreds of drawings). There's also heavy implication that there may be/have been some maternal sexual abuse going on in the household. Nina's infantalisation, & her regression to babyish behaviour (like eating frosting from her mother's finger) as an attempt to placate her takes on an even darker tone when seen through that interpretation.
the amount of secret imagery in the club scene is crazy I never thought to pause at those quick frames but it shows so much
Hmmm, kissing.
Natalie deserved that Oscar given how difficult this role was. I mean she went from an assassin protege at age 12 in “Leon” to playing this mentally tortured prima ballerina. Her dance double, Sarah Lane, does deserve credit for the much more intricate routines but Natalie’s training shouldn’t be understated as she (as well as Mila) put in the work to do enough of her own dancing. I remember this was an awkward movie to watch with my dad in the theatre 😅
I heard she had to go to therapy after the movie ended. Is that right or...?
Will you ever do a video about Perfect Blue? It's an absolute masterpiece.
Your deep-dives are what makes your movie recaps and explanations so much more gripping than other channels’
I’m kinda blown away you went that deep to even connect it to Perfect Blue, an infamous psychological horror
perfect is addictive. I was working on a project thing and spent almost three days and nights up working, not caring about food or water. Beyond sleep-deprived, I got freaked out and zoned out from tiredness and fell, leaving my side temple with a scar. Always remember your project, instrument, or thing will be there tomorrow and probably be easier with sleep.
Perfection and happiness (two sides of the same coin in my eyes) is horrifyingly addictive. The levels or extremes people are willing to go to get that temporary high can be very disturbing, and this movie is an excellent example of that.
And the worst aspect, is the more you chase those temporary highs the thresholds for them shift. Perfecting is raised higher and being happy can go lower (in terms of meeting it or the feeling itself)
@@ArcaneSorceror exactly. It's like a drug. I'm glad I learned my lesson and I remember it every time I see my scar.
All artists I know (no matter the art form) myself included struggle with the obsession with perfection. It can get so intense that it trickles into other aspects of life. The worst part is perfection doesn't exist but we're still chasing it while being fully aware
Black Swan is its own film but if the director was honest about Satoshi Kon being a film inspiration instead of always denying it wouldn't have bothered me so much.
Jordan Peele is honest about anime being an inspiration for him, and when I catch a reference it makes me happy. Satoshi is an incredible visionary and Darren acting like he never saw Perfect Blue when we can all tell he has seen Perfect Blue makes me so annoyed for it feels like a showcase of how animation isn't a respected medium.
Jordan Peele is a racist and is oddly proud of it. Esp since he has a White wife. Go figure.
I thought that he also stole some part of the story line from the movie "The piano teacher".
I'm so mad that I'm finding out right now that Winona Ryder was in this. All I remember is Natalie and Mila but more so Natalie's transformation. They drug that out real bad.
When I first saw this movie, I watched it over and over again. My mom was worried at the time because I was diagnosed with depression and anxiety, and she saw the movie, and throught it would set me back, but it actually helped me alot. I still love this creepy movie. 🎬
Anyone else think how wild it is that this man just casually glosses over real deaths like it’s just a thing?? Got me dying 😭😭
Time stamp?
@@hawajobe8249 Guess they mean @42:08, but it's just a joke with deadpan delivery.
@@erikah843 ah a “joke.” Right.
I got chills when you said Perfect Blue! I love that hidden gem!
Crazy how not a lot of content creators actually bring up Satoshi Kon's work, so I'm glad that in 2024, someone's publishing it through film analysis. Loved your breakdown by the way!
Highly recommend Battle Royale if you haven't seen it already.
I can relate to this movie a lot. I took Ballet for 6 years and enjoyed every moment of it. I wanted to make a career but my mom forced me to quit when I turned 18.
Part 2 pls
Part 2?
@@Wolfbane382 Why'd she make you quit?
@@ar-1632 I can't really say because to this day I honestly don't know. I have my guesses the main one being money. I wasn't driving at the time (and still don't.) And she gave me an ultimatum. Either I learn the bus routes or I can stop going. I didn't know the bus routes that well back then and I didn't have a cell phone either.
If I wound up getting lost I'd have no way to call her. There's also the fact she would constantly tell me because I didn't start early enough I could never make it a career. Pointing out all the other people who were far more graceful because they started from like 6 years old.
I started when I was 13 because of how interested I was and a friend of hers was a teacher. But no matter how hard I practiced and how much passion I showed for it, she would always say "You didn't start early enough." Every single time. It eventually got to me. And that spring was the last performance I ever did.
You do realize you can make your own decisions once you turn 18 with or without the approval of your parents?
I did Ballet until I was around 15 and we did Swan Lake. I was one of the little swans and one of the older dancers was the white and black swans. Though we didn’t talk much, I could definitely see she was struggling. I think she was only 17 and all the pressure of being the main dancer was definitely having a bad toll on her mental health. And after we did the last show, she literally stormed outside and screamed her heart out. So this movie definitely brought back memories.
For people my age, Aranofsky's films are refreshing. Each time there's a paradigm shift in horror, it's great for those of us who love it...that includes all subgenres of it. This was a great breakdown. Some of the analysis was a little obvious, but you broke it down very well. Don't be so hard on yourself ffs. YT is kicking everyone in the nuts rn.
Caylee explained why she was leaving back when she left. I was one of her subscribers at the time. She had explained that it was because the true crime content she had been doing had been taking a major toll on her mental health and she so she was taking a break. Then much later she announced on her socials that she had been offered a very lucrative job opportunity, thanked everyone for the immense support over the years and said goodbye permanently.
I used to watch her all the time. I hope she’s happy and living her best life wherever she is! I remember being a subscriber telling her to check on her mental health because her deep dives were so detailed that being so immersed in her work could be devastating for her.
That is great to hear! I wasn't on any socials back then, so, I had no idea that she was offered a great job, all I knew was that she was searching for one and that one day her channel disapeared off of youtube. Hope she is happy and thriving!
Thank you for correcting that.
so glad you put in the effort to point perfect blue's influence through out black swan.
you got something wrong in 7:47 . She doesnt throw up from anxiety, Nina is bulimic.
I watch these because I’m a big chicken who’s afraid of horror movies but loves them at the same time 🥰❤️
Try to watch this movie. It isn’t exactly scary…..more psychological. It’s good.
Fallen is great if you like classic 90's horror/thrillers, it stars Denzel Washington.
Same
@@ladya3302There's a few pretty visceral scenes lol .. Ninas legs snapping and turning to a swan, murdering Lily was brutal af, the lady stabbing herself in the face etc .. yeah it's psychological but there's definitely scenes that are visibly gory as hell lol
there’s no better example of how humanity sees ourselves in art which will always touch us where we are than youtubers telling us “this is just like youtube actually!” which might seem sort of baffling but the art is just doing its thing of meeting us where we are. kind of adorable really.
To me the reason why denying the inspiration of Perfect Blue looks so much worse is because, in comparison to how vocal they were about the inspiration on the Black Swan ballet, it feels like a slap in the face. I think there are so many similarities that this movie is as much of a retelling of the ballet as it is a retelling of Perfect Blue, even if the story of the Black Swan is part of the movie itself.
It's also a lie, as the director of Black Swan originally wanted to adapt Perfect Blue into live action but after trying to obtain the rights to Perfect Blue fell through, as the creator of PB thought that the movie wouldn't fit into an American setting since a lot of Mima's struggles and nuance come from Japanese culture at the time, the director of Black Swan decided to create Black Swan instead, which is clearly very heavily inspired from Perfect Blue and many scenes and imagery are shot for shot from Perfect Blue.
One of the scariest horror movies ever made, even as a bloke it gave me the fear. The suffocating pressure of being a perfect woman is terrying.
I find it funny that Perfect blue is regarded as "inspiration" for black swan when black swan is straight up a rip off perfect blue.
The director even denied the similarities in interviews at the time even when black swan copied entire scenes down to the camera angles.
WEEBS ARE DELUSIONAL
I've only seen Perfect Blue once, so I completely missed just how far the copies went.
@@TheoRae8289 Back in 2011 , the director Aronovsky went on a TV interview in france and was asked if he "knew the japanese movie : Perfect blue" , he refused to answer and left the set. That was embarrassing.
@@AdvancedKrizalid what a way to tell on yourself without meaning to 😂
I think it's extremely narrow-minded to call it a "rip-off" of perfect blue. I've seen both movies and yes they share a lot of similarities but I definitely think black swan has an identity of its own.
There is a quote from Dune by Frank Herbert, which really sum up the theme of Nina's pursuit of perfection, it's a very long quote so I will post only two sentences from it:
"(...)it is possible to see peril in the finding of ultimate perfection. It is clear that the ultimate pattern contains its own fixity. In such perfection, all things move toward death."
Tbh, this movie has always bothered me for the reason that its basically a narrative copy of Perfect Blue, which doesnt even remotely get enough recognition as an anime from a time where animes were seen different by most people. And it's by far the only example... That will never go away for me.
Same, I still really like it, but it's a shameless copy of Perfect Blue that got more recognition than PB ever did. It also puts a bad taste in my mouth, as the director of Black Swan originally wanted to adapt Perfect Blue into live action but after trying to obtain the rights to Perfect Blue fell through, as the creator of PB thought that the movie wouldn't fit into an American setting since a lot of Mima's struggles and nuance come from Japanese culture, the director of Black Swan then decided to create Black Swan instead, which is clearly very heavily inspired from Perfect Blue and many scenes and imagery are shot for shot from Perfect Blue.
Love how this guy is also just casually a roller coaster enthusiast
I love perfect blue. I haven’t watched it in years. Rumi as an idol made me laugh when her wig came off
Perfectionism wrecked my self esteem to the point where I’m still trying to build it up, I sympathized with Nina deeply!
11:09 I can see why she would panic. Even if she is a good dancer, she got the part not because of a technical audition but because of this weird interaction. So, she's kinda right to feel like an imposter, and she would be treated as such by members of the company if she failed.
It’s bulimia, not anxiety
Can it be both?
@@sassybdiy7565 I believe so.😩
bro natalie put in the work to lose a crazy amount of weight and learn at least basic ballet, which is something that isnt included in a normal actor's skillset. i dont think anyone would be silly enough to assume she gained in a few months the skillset of a professional ballet dancer, but that shouldn't disregard the crazy amount of work she had to go thru, in ADDITION to a very difficult acting role (her actual job). a stunt double is necessary to preserve the quality and believability of the movie. idk trying to discredit her work and efforts sucks imo
This was one of my favorite movies when it came out. As a writer I definitely struggled with writing my second book until I just embraced the fact that I don’t have to out do myself. Now I’ve written 7 and about to work on my eight and my first screen play. Also I love the hidden last part about another one of my favorite films. Perfect Blue is amazing.
I always liked this movie as part of the psychological aspect of it, especially how early in the movie she sees someone else have her face and also the fact that that whole love scene was completely in her head really shows how far she’s gone. Also, her mother might’ve played a factor in it given the fact that she was put under a lot of pressure her mother.
To be fair, the issues regarding body-image and media go back WAY before online social-media. But yes; I can personally attest to the EXTREME effect it has on young people, especially women, by what I've seen it do to some of my younger friends. I'm personally not on social media that much, but I still wouldn't wish that kind of thing on anyone. =\ Great video! =)
Yeah that was a real L take. There is a massive difference between wanting to be in shape and having body dysmorphia. You can't obtain the kinds of bodies you see idolized in say, balletcore without doing some serious calorie restricting which for a lot of people can easily roll over into a full blown eating disorder. You can't look like, say, the Liver King without steroids. You can't get the full slim-thick flat tummy, big butt, big boobs look without padding, shapewear, and/or plastic surgery. There is a healthy medium between being completely sedentary and being completely obsessive. If you're a normal person who goes to the gym three times a week and eats a lot of fruits and vegetables, you will never look like a movie star, but you will be a lot healthier and feel a lot better than if you didn't.
@@sersergv I have no idea what half those things you mentioned are. And I think you misunderstood the intent of my statement. I don't think you're wrong, but I what I was trying to say, in a more simplified way, was that it's a complex and nuanced issue with many different effects and outcomes on a wide variety of people. And I also wanted to point out that the origins of such issues go back even before social media. And yes, ballet is very demanding. I wasn't disagreeing, just sharing my individual experience. =)
Finally it is posted!! I'v ebeen patiently awaiting this moment. Thank you CZ.
Cayleigh Elise was one of my favorite creators, I used to watch her stuff all the time. The little shout-out sent my mind reeling backwards through time.
Same! I had to replay that part of the video to make sure that I am not making stuff up. So happy she is remembered by today's biggest horror yourubers!
If there’s anyone who can do a fairly complete analysis on the abuse Nina faced from her mother, the ballet world, and especially that predatory ballet director, picking up on all the subtext and the parallels to the darker endings of Swan Lake… it would be CZ.
Yesssss 1 hour video (almost) on a Saturday where I have so much to do! So down. Love ya CZ!!!
I rewatched this recently. I loved it. You should be very proud of yourself. This is a great video.
Ballet pro dancer here, who was trained by her mother who also was a pro ballet dancer. The scariest part of Black Swan is that the lesson you're told since you're very young it's perfectly reflected on the movie mottif: If you can trip the girl next to you, and break her leg, do it because is one less obstacle, it's one less person going for your role, is one more step stone to the top, because at the end, it's all that matters to you. that one minute of applause.
I don't know if this means anything Zac or if you drew your parallel for the video only but, I wanna say that beyond your personality that I enjoy a lot, you put out amazing content, all the effort that you dedicate to your videos it shows and it's been like this since I started watching you (>100k subs).
who else watches these to know the story of a movie before actually watching it?
Me too🤠
Me
It's why I watch reaction compilations, too
Lol I don't even have the intention to watch the movie
Me
The hair you had from the beatle juice video.. BRING IT BACK!😫😫
Thank you! I really wanted a breakdown of the dance floor montage!
I adore this movie as well as the original ballet. This was a great choice. Really appreciate the subliminal analysis because I've never spotted them before.
This is the first time I've come across one of your videos and I really enjoyed listening to you. Your analysis was excellent, complete and very relevant. I never had the opportunity to watch this film although I always wanted to see it. After listening to you, I no longer need to see it. Excellent work thank you.
Black Swan is a masterpiece, a crown jewel among legendary psycho movies. Thank you for giving it the deep dive attention it deserves!
Is anybody checking on cz? You guys are talking about the video and missing Cz making eery parallels..
Hope youre doing good bro. Love the channel. Dont keep trying to out do yourself to the point of doing yourself in
Hard to find high quality videos on horror like he does it!
just yours and my comment which i just left even mentioned his notes about how the parallels affect him. hope he is doing well. youtube can be unforgiving, because we are consuming the products of hard work, often without realising the impact and toll it takes on the makers. thanks for caring, brother.
WOOWWWWW THE CLUB SCENE WAS CRAZYYYY ITS SO CRAZYY HOW U CAUGHT ALL THAT then the way u go into detail LUV U CZSWORLD PROBABLY ONE OF MY FAV VIDS
Idk the whole "mima/nina" sounds a lot like "kimba/simba??? Suspicious" bullshit of kimba the white lion vs lion king. I can see the influences but its also doing a disservice to the actual swan lake story. Also the ending of Perfect Blue being the focus on the assistance commiting the murders is less impactful when Black Swan is all about Nina and how far she pushed herself to losing her mind.
I suffer a lot from Imposter Syndrome, especially when I make art that looks stunning but I look at it and think "This wasn't me" when I knew it was me who painted it.
It's a horrible feeling and I can see why Black Swan is so loved by many artists for exposing how imposter symdrome can impact someone.
Also, I'd like to see you do a video on Perfect Blue, I really love that film!
the chicken leg scene was the one scene that broke my immersion in the movie... i laughed out loud in the theatre when it happened
The fact that you brought up Perfect Blue…chefs kiss
I always thought this movie was also a good representation of the actors/actresses who go too far into their role, like too far into method acting, and is almost like a cautionary tale of sorts in that aspect too
I've seen Black Swan around fifty times now, and in fact had just put it in the Blu-ray player when your video came out, so I was pretty excited to watch this today. It's a great video, though I'm sorry to say you did flub some of the details: Nina isn't a virgin, and doesn't die at the end (Natalie Portman believes Nina only killed the white swan, so she could move on with her life and mature, which I think better fits the genius of Aronofsky's work; though Barbara Hershey does think she died... but Barbara Hershey also swears up and down that she never had plastic surgery, so I take her opinion with a small Siberian salt mine), Thomas is The Gentleman and not The Prince (and I think it's important to understand that he's not trying to get any kind of sexual gratification from Nina, nor do I think he gave her the role because of anything sexual - those scenes are never about his penis. It took me a lot of viewings to see that - I think he's just very French and is trying to unfreeze Nina in the way his culture provides for), and I'm pretty sure the stills you pulled from the club scene show Nina with Tom, not Andrew... but I do want to thank you for showing me a lot of things in this beloved movie that I haven't noticed in fifty viewings, like the black swan in Nina's stuffed animals, most of the club scene subliminals that I haven't had the wherewithal to frame-by-frame through, and the extent of the black versus white theming that I hadn't fully caught on to, like with the lipstick cases and the decorations in Thomas's condo. Overall, not a perfect video (ironically enough), but absolutely one of value that I appreciate and enjoyed.
Excellent work, you are brilliant. Your great attention to detail shows.
I’ve always liked the Black Swan, but I admittedly watched it when I was too young to understand much of what was going on (like 11 or something). This video was such a good analysis now that I’m older.
YOU'RE MY #1 FAVORITE UA-camR CZ!!!
The lipstick color on the mirror is red. Like the one she stole.
7:24
I like something Alien Cinema pointed out: her taking Beth's makeup has the same feeling of a little girl sneaking her mom's makeup out of childhood curiosity, which goes along with her being a little girl in the beginning of the film
Can you do the history of a quiet place?
This whole video is just ... CHILLS.
I cried all over again seeing the final performance in the movie.
Caileigh Elise did end her career with a video where she explains that she is prioritising her mental health and she won’t be back on youtube. After that, she deleted her account. Those who weren’t actively following her on every video might have missed it
That was the best black swan deep dive video I’ve seen ! Black swan is in my top 5 movie of all time. You did ur homework good sir ! I’m blown away.
That was a great video. Cheers
You’ve done an amazing job delivering the eerie and thrilling vibes. Awesome channel! 👏
So, as far as media causing body dysmorphia, I think it can never be said enough. Now you have so many women wanting that ant body so they go under the knife with questionable doctors to get high cheeks, full lips, wide hips and large behinds. These fashionable trends have always been problem but since photography we've been bombarded with the images and social media has made it worse
The saddest part is that as easy it is to look past, it still works- the marketing still works
I was not expecting to see Caylee to pop up! Yeah, she needed a mental health break and I am glad she is doing something that is a benefit to her
Oh I LOVE Perfect Blue! I saw it on a date in theaters when i was younger and it's been one of my favorites since. i had no idea that it inspired Black Swan! That's amazing!
As someone who used to do ballet as a kid, using the full wall of mirrors in the studio to improve your skills is very accurate. I’d always look at the mirror to improve my skills. I don’t do ballet anymore due to my leg, but the mirror thing is again, is very accurate. 👍🏻
Bro. Speaking of perfection? This video (and all your others) are 🔥🔥🔥 incredible work dude
Goosebumps usually appear on people’s skin in very cool weather or when they get the creeps. That’s why the famous franchise Goosebumps is called that.
Probably the first time I ever wanted to cry while watching a CZsWorld video, and I mean that in the best way possible.
Bro, I love your videos also guess who I’m going as for Halloween
Natalie Portman?
You’re right on time. There are so few analysis videos about this film.
Me: *patiently waiting for CZ to talk about The Autopsy of Jane Doe.*
NO WAY HE ACTUALLY MADE A VIDEO ABOUT MY FAVOURITE MOVIE,I LOVE ALL YOUR VIDEOSSS
Amazing analyze! I’ve watched countless of videos about this but specifically the Black Swan in the room I havent heard of before! And the Club scene!!! Im sure more stuff you mentioned but this specifically stood out. 🙌🏻 hats off
This analysis is superb!! Don’t put so much pressure on yourself. You’re amazing at what you do!
Your tangent about the pressures of beauty standards was not necessary in this commentary and also, as a man, you have zero stance on the issue of the pressures that are placed on women to look a certain way. Its not 2013 anymore, true, but its not like those pressures or stigmas aren’t still prevalent in today’s age.
Yeah that was a real L take. There is a massive difference between wanting to be in shape and having body dysmorphia. You can't obtain the kinds of bodies you see idolized in say, balletcore without doing some serious calorie restricting which for a lot of people can easily roll over into a full blown eating disorder. You can't look like, say, the Liver King without steroids. You can't get the full slim-thick flat tummy, big butt, big boobs look without padding, shapewear, and/or plastic surgery. There is a healthy medium between being completely sedentary and being completely obsessive. If you're a normal person who goes to the gym three times a week and eats a lot of fruits and vegetables, you will never look like a movie star, but you will be a lot healthier and feel a lot better than if you didn't.
I appreciate your personal honesty about being a creator in this video. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Love the hour long video, keep it up. 💛
I will say I was at one point in my life in a way like Mima/Nina. I was in my early twenties trying so hard to become a professional cosplayer that I was doing a photoshoot every month with whatever money I had in the hopes to grow my content and save up for breast surgery to my boobs as big as Jessica Nigri and Yaya Han. But seeing their images and other famous cosplay influencers on my feed cause me to have server BD and ED that I was realizing after all that, I just wanted to be happy and not care about my feed or how I look in a costume. I still suffer issues with my body, but I’m trying to keep a healthy diet that doesn’t do to much to my body, and surround myself with friends and family who see me for me. I respect your view point on dangers of social media being over used, I still see it as an issue for those with low self esteem.
I just watched The Black Swan Yesterday it was a Really Cool Movie and Natalie Portman was The Sole Reason I gotten into Watching This Film and her Performance was Incredible.
As a dancer, I approve of this Horror History video.
And I would like to talk about the whole Nina being dropped on stage a bit. No amount of practice or preparation can prevent anything from happening during a performance, I have fallen a lot on stage and have made it look like a dance move instead. Since Nina and the others were under a lot of pressure to be perfect, she was in shock and so much so that she couldn't make it look like part of the choreography.
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Man now I have to watch Perfect Blue after this video is finished. I haven’t seen it in years.
You are absolutely amazing, I LOVE your work ❤ I also love your sense of humor 😂
Good movie but now I wanna see Perfect Blue again.
I'm actually really mad. I figured she had a body double for most of it....seeing as people train their ENTIRE LIFE for this role....and they legit made it seem as if she did the entire movie. I thought that but was so confused as I am a dancer myself
Yes, Sarah Lane was the dancer which did most of the dancing. Especially the fouettées, of course ❤!
@@thalia7104 of course!!! I was so annoyed they made it seem it was her 😆 like no love...that took me f ING years, on LEFT?! Lol
@@TheAllieBuba Same! I only had some lessons for adults (then it was 2020, and I couldn't go anymore because of the virus), but I was always interested in ballet and dance, so I found it really annoying and unfair that they didn't mention Sarah as her dance double! ❤️
And I think N. Portman's later husband additionally dumped his then- girlfriend, Isabella Boylston, another wonderful balett dancer from ABT, because of N.P.
This movie definitely is great, but there are many things connected that are just a mess 🙈...