the eldest of the group is basically emotional support for the group and someone who the leader can rely on. this way, chaewon doesn't need to take all the weight on her shoulders
Exactly. Coz then even the leader has someone to go to when they are stressed. Oldest member being the leader might not be able to express their stress and other things to their members
I also think another reason she choose this role is due her experience as Idol, as she is the one with the most experience ones. She know how hard is become public figures, and it will become even harder for younger people like Eunchae & Kazuha. This decision make her automatically become the mother & mentor for other members, which she also did in IZ*ONE. it's easing Chaewon to become leader, easing other member to be open each other, easing Kazuha to learn korea, easing Eunchae to still able enjoy her teenager life, and most importantly, allow member to be themself. That is very wise decision for her, and also very wise for HYBE & Source Music to accept it.
Chaewon as the leader can depend on the oldest which is sakura, and sakura can depend on chaewon as she is the leader, if sakura is the leader, knowing sakura who is someone who would keep everything to herself, she will have no one to depend on
honestly true, sakura would build all her emotions to herself until she breaks :((( she always tries her best not to cry and be strong for her members.
Yeah exactly. Many groups have leaders who are the oldest which is so hard on them. Others switch leaders between members. So i think its best to have each other to rely on and they were in CLC together so they know how to work well w each other.
It makes sense, especially after her experience with the 48 groups. The leaders there are completely in the trenches running everything in the way a Kpop manager usually does. In fact there was one girl who was the leader of AKB 48 (the first group to be formed) and, because she was good at it, she ended up acting as the manager for every group that was formed afterwards until she was promoting as an idol while holding the title of 'general manager', in charge of like 1000 idols from all of the different 48 and 46 groups. So, even though leaders are different in Kpop groups, I could see that experience completely crushing any desire she might have had to be the leader.
@@miadavis4837She was close to Sashihara who was the leader and theater manager of her group HKT48, and I'm guessing she probably saw how tough it was to be a manager and an idol from there as well.
It’s cuz she thinks she fails as a leader she doesn’t believe in herself. It’s really sad but I also understand having all that pressure to be the best I just wish she had more faith in herself
The more I listen to Sakura, the more I like her. The girl knows her strengths and weaknesses, and with the amount of power the experience gives her, she can openly discuss these things with management. For real I think she is an amazing role model
I think it's good that Chaewon is the leader while Sakura is the nurturer. Sometimes the leader must impose a bit of order, and you can see that brings stress to someone like Sakura. She seems more comfortable being the mom.
True its hard being the mom and the dad at the same time, the leader will impose the rules to maintain their group as a whole while the oldest will nurture each member when they have personal concerns that they can handle 😊
Sakura is an observer person. And she act faster than words. She's the best at giving emotional support and physical care. No wonder fimmies call her "mom"
First of all, Sakura hate the leader position and you can see this in Produce 48. Also, Hybe from BTS to new jeans, when they form a group they don't give the leader position to the oldest they give it to the middle member or the second. TXT when they appeared in weekly idol they asked them the same question.
@@jeonghanlovesjoshua New jeans doesn't officially have a leader, it was part of Min heejin to make NJs different / standout as a kpop group (they also reiterated it on their phoning app). But just based on their interactions, it does seem like minji does take on the responsibility unofficially as she's the unnie/oldest along with Hanni.
It’s best when the oldest isn’t the leader as that can create a barrier between them and the rest of the members (they are already the oldest and now they have to lead too). Having someone else (obviously not the younger members so usually second oldest) be the leader creates a balance in power and relationship that is best for a group success rate.
I think that's basically how HYBE works as well, a leader who leads the group for professional work, and the oldest member who take care of the group outside their work so that the leader is not being burden after work hours
Not surprised. 48/46centers usually had too much pressure so it's always a bittersweet experience every announcement. She probably doesnt want the extra baggage and have had enough of the anxiety
I remember that there's a reason why they don't make the oldest/youngest a leader and it's to avoid conflict because when the youngest is the leader the others sometimes won't listen to them and when the oldest is the leader the others would be afraid to confront them. That's why they always make someone on the middle a leader so the younger ones can confront them leader through the oldest
Y’all need to stop pushing the mom role on Sakura. She isn’t just a mom, it’s getting annoying. Y’all only care about her popularity and how it gives advantages to the group but never speak on how Sakura never gets good lines, screentime or killing parts in their songs and is always treated like a backup dancer
Knowing Sakura from Produce and Iz*One, she would definitely stressed out if she's taking leader position since she puts her heart on her sleeve. Worst case, she's keeping the pain to herself until she's burning out. It's wise of her to acknowledge her limitations ❤
It's because she already expected the possibility of her being designated as a leader because her age 🩵 even if it's just days apart, it's great to have the second oldest or someone middle in age members to be the leader because they could get the support that they need from their older members as long as there is balance and respect between the members just like in gidle. sometimes it's also good to have the most experienced member/seniority or the 'oldest sibling in their family' member to be the leader 💛
HYBE has a pretty consistent pattern of not having the eldest be the leader, when it comes to their original groups. BTS-Namjoon, 4th eldest. TXT-Soobin, 2nd eldest. Enhypen-Jungwon, 2nd youngest. NewJeans-No official leader. &Team-EJ, 4th eldest, with co-leader Fuma, 2nd eldest. I think it’s a good model to follow. Dividing that responsibility and giving the leader someone older than them to lean on is really important. I’m glad they followed this model with Le Sserafim & respected Sakura’s decision!
Sakura seems like a really selfless person ❤️ She even said that when Le Sserafim was formed she didn't want to take many lines because she didn't feel like her singing was good enough. Most people are not so self aware and even if they are, they are still so hungry to be the center of attention even if that means bringing down the quality of the whole group. She knows her strengths and weaknesses. She's been doing this for 10 years now, I hope she still enjoys it. I hope she is genuinely having fun.
@@honeypran in the documentary, she said she wanted less lines until her vocal improved due to hate comments, so she said something along the lines of that but not exactly
Sakura never asked for less lines though. Company stans spread that misinformation of what she said in the documentary and started twisting her words. If you guys truly knew Sakura, she is the type to thirst for challenges, the whole point of her wanting to re-debut was to improve her skills. How is she going to ever improve her singing skills if she “””””””requests less lines”””””. In the documentary, she said “There was a point where I didn’t want many lines in the song”… but after that, she said “But now, I don’t want to run away anymore. I want to challenge myself.” Y’all need to stop spreading this fucking misinformation, cause it’s aggregating when people bring this misinformation up to push Sakura stans’ valid reasons for wanting to see their bias more in their songs. She never asked for less lines, now she wants to do better and challenge herself, please understand this
HYBE don't assign the eldest as leaders.. I think that's what always happens with all the group that they hold except for the groups that debuted even before being under them like seventeen
Sakura is my bias in LS, but with her and Chaewon's personailties, I think Chaewon is deserving of that role as well. I just see Sakura as someone who can lead people if she needs to, but doesn't personally seek that responsibility. You can see Chaewon is truly a leader type from the get go. It's like Sakura is the Sigma and Chaewon is an Alpha. Something like that. It's very evident in their videos together with the group.
Even if Sakura don't want to be leader I don't think SouMu or Hybe will ever considered her the leader despite her being the eldest or most experienced because she is a foreign member and company tends to made the Korean members leader even if the foreign member is the oldest
but the probability that she being selected as a leader is high, she been in this kind of industry since 2011, her experience is vast especially she coming from a group that having large number of group members..Yunjin n Eunchae expressed her admired towards Sakura who likely would pick Sakura as their leader as well, then Chaewon too i think would select Sakura as well
bc of iz*one what Sakura saw of Eunbi pressure, Kpop hidden rules no foreigner leader , no foreigner to be competition winner PD48 , she was 2nd , WY 1st
Her not wanting to be leader came way before PD48 or any of her disappointment after. Sakura already had to manage HKT as the vice-captain for 4+ years (she was the leader to dozens of girls since she was 16yrs). She didn't ask for that position either... She even said before she wanted to focus on herself/training her skills (dance & singing) without having to worry about other members as much as before.
btw boys planet has a foreigner winner. some groups has a foreigner leader, most of them are from nugu already disbanded groups and the one who's prolly familiar to all of you is victoria from f(x).
To be a leader, someone has to have the qualifications, not always the eldest. Eldest should just guide as they have experience, not only just using sunbae/senpai card on
I'm loving this trend honestly. Back in 1st gen & 2nd gen, the eldest almost always automatically become the leader and it's not always the right choice. i feel like a lot of ppl in this position had to bear a higher burden cuz they have no one to be their support. the newer gens now seem to adapt with having an official leader + reliable hyung/unnie that can establish a better support system for their fellow members.
I notice in most groups there are 2 types of being a leader. One that actually leads he group through dance practices, promotions, and etc. Theyre normally the most talented/all-rounder member. The other one having a mother like authority. Giving advice, being a shoulder to cry on, emotional support, and accompaniment.
Eldest are the one to be there as a support to the leader. Leader needs someone whom he/she can go to like a shoulder to cry on and ask for assistance for the members.
You don't become a leader just for being the oldest. You have to be a person who is talented enough to help the others in singing and in dance practice, whick sakura is clearly not.
It’s another reason is that if the oldest is not Korean then the leader position is given to the second oldest member coz thy know more about the culture of Korea and if the oldest is the leader the other members can’t say their views on stuff coz they have to respect the elders decision
Tbh, it always made sense to me that Chaewon was the leader even if Sakura had more experience. I think having someone who's knowledgeable of the Korean culture and language and well-rounded is super important. I'm sure it would've been hard for Sakura to lead when she's still trying to adjust to Korea
i think hybe is doing a great job picking the leader in every group,the oldest is responsible for the emotion of the group and the leader leads the group you can see how genuin and how close the members are
Well yeah, leaders are often liaise with the company, make final decisions for the group, monitor everything the group does, etc. Just do what leading a team means. Imagine is there are problems with the company, it’s practical having someone to take responsibility instead of involving all members. If the younger members have a problem it’s easier for them to come to the leader rather than talk with the company directly. The staff is not always behind every member so leaders are the one that monitoring everything or make sure the schedules are followed.
it’s better for both the oldest member & the one appointed leader that the oldest isn’t the leader because then they can rely on each other when times are hard.
Chaewon is a native Korean speaker and has also been in the industry for a while. In BP, the oldest member, Jisoo, is a default leader d/t spending entire life in SK. Shownu, LeeTeuk, Yeji, S Coups, Bang Chan, Solar, Serim and Irene are the eldest and leader of the group.
It understandable why she doesn’t feel fit to lead the group. Group leaders honestly don’t have “serious” responsibilities, but they definitely are an emotional & guiding “pillar” for the other members. The leader is also someone who’s usually given a more mature image & sometimes becomes the face of the group. Many leaders also lead the speeches in awards shows, lead the conversations in variety shows,& much more of the communicator than the other members. Kkura is a great idol & she’s definitely experienced but that doesn’t mean she’s ready to lead yet. Kkura is still foreign and it means that she hasn’t learn sooo much KOREAN to the point where your basically fluent just yet. Th e amount of pressure is is to keep a mature image is also a factor too…just because she’s older than the others doesn’t mean she’s ready 🤷🏻♀️
I think they have more serious responsibilities, they are often liaise with the company, make final decisions for the group, monitor the schedules of everyone. Chaewon, specially been one of the best vocals and dancers in the group, is also capable of guiding the members with the performances. Apart from the more technical aspects, Chaewon as a leader also give the emocional support but I think it’s Sakura the one that leads more in that part. The members have mentioned in many occasions, Sakura is the one that holds the group together. As the more experience and older member, they go to her for advices and support. So Sakura is definitely the emocional pillar but I think she just doesn’t want the pressure of being in charge of the most technical parts and she still have to improve in her skills. And she is fluent in Korean tho
@@Mm29051 I mean sure but it really depends on what company your from 🤷🏻♀️ crap companies will give an idol a leader role just cuz every other group has a leader but theirs won’t a any real responsibilities. I get where your coming from but I don’t think experience equal good leadership. For a place like HYPE I think most of the leader’s job is to be the face of the group and be the leading speaker. Of course there are extra details but like that’s the main part it seems. For Sakura she just doesn’t seem to fit the leader role that much. She’s obviously mature & well-experienced in the idol industry but it doesn’t mean she herself could lead it alone while thinking for the other members. I feel like she can’t be under pressure much because she still needs to hown her skills more as being a J-Pop Idol is VERY different a K-pop one. Chaewon on the other hand has shown to be a pretty good leader and I think with more experience with such a role she may become more pivotal.
@@lilithyolanda9851 i think leading a team still have some technical parts even in companies like Hybe. Just by logistics, if there are issues, someone have to be in charge, they can’t have the five members intervening. Plus Chaewon is always looking and monitoring the members performances or recording sessions. I mean being the face of the group in public is probably the most important part, which is something I think Chaewon is perfect for but it’s also what it’s easier for us to see. I still think Sakura leads the group in a more emocional way, just because is what the members have mention. When they talk about Sakura is always about her being the pillar of the group, the one that leads and take care of them, and they definitely have in mind her experience
@@Mm29051 yeah I think Sakura does play a more emotional supportive role for the members. I just don’t think that’s a “leader” quality. I think it feels more like Sakura being an older sister to them.
If we talk about the older one, the leader like Sakura of LESSERAFIM will be followed and they are the oldest but not all the eldest in the Group is the leader and the others are the youngest leader or second to the youngest so the leader is different in the group like BINI PH embis that Aiah who is older than them became their leader the second to the youngest Jhoanna but they are eight... ❤❤❤
Just because Kkura would be an awesome leader doesn't mean she should be if she doesn't want to. I think Chaewon does great in the role and Kkura is great support for her.
Her formative years were spent in HKT48. I doubt that she was blind to the immense pressure Sashihara Rino was under as their leader. A lot of weight also rested on Kwon Eunbi's shoulders in IZ*One. If that's not something she wants for herself, then who can blame her?
HYBE have set a new tradition where the leader is never the oldest. All of their own groups - BTS, TXT, Enhypen and Le Sserafim follow this tradition, and NewJeans have no leader at all
it's easy to manage the second oldest than all of them. so if sakura wants the group to follow something she'll ask the leader to convince the rest why it's the best choice. hahahahaha
Yeah like in anime chaewon Is the protagonist while Sakura Is the voice of reason AND as they said the shoulder to lean on when she Is stressed or simply having It hard
I think it is really reasonable for groups to not make eldest member as the leader since seniority in many asian cultures are quite heavy, if the eldest member is the leader of the group then jt can be hard for younger members to suggest stuff
I agree with her decision, it's not that she can't be a leader because she can but she don't want to become one for some reasons and i think one of the reason is because she knows that it will be hard for her to lead the group without someone in the members that she can lean on and can understand her fully about high responsibility of being their senior or their oldest like unnie of her who she can tell and she can talk to when things gets hard for having that high responsibility and some pressure in that position in their group. If i was Sakura, i will do the same thing she did because being a leader is a great responsibility and not only the oldest one can handle and can take that responsibility because sometimes younger ones can take it and the oldest can help them to become a great leader because they can teach the younger on how to handle high responsibility as the leader just like the oldest being the oldest in the group and had a quite high authority among the youngest members. ❤ I admire Sakura for choosing what she think is better and it becames a best decision because chaewon is really a good leader and Sakura helps her to become one of the great leader in kpop industry.❤
It's better this way because Sakura is really emotional. In their debut, she couldn't stand her group without crying. Chae is stronger and more assertive while talking infront of others.
The model of not having the oldest member be the leader does have a lot of merit to it. Nice to see that HYBE took her seriously when she laid out that condition upfront.
the eldest of the group is basically emotional support for the group and someone who the leader can rely on. this way, chaewon doesn't need to take all the weight on her shoulders
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Exactly. Coz then even the leader has someone to go to when they are stressed. Oldest member being the leader might not be able to express their stress and other things to their members
I also think another reason she choose this role is due her experience as Idol, as she is the one with the most experience ones. She know how hard is become public figures, and it will become even harder for younger people like Eunchae & Kazuha. This decision make her automatically become the mother & mentor for other members, which she also did in IZ*ONE.
it's easing Chaewon to become leader, easing other member to be open each other, easing Kazuha to learn korea, easing Eunchae to still able enjoy her teenager life, and most importantly, allow member to be themself. That is very wise decision for her, and also very wise for HYBE & Source Music to accept it.
Omg, you couldn't have said it better🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Ur right
Chaewon as the leader can depend on the oldest which is sakura, and sakura can depend on chaewon as she is the leader, if sakura is the leader, knowing sakura who is someone who would keep everything to herself, she will have no one to depend on
A group where everyone can depend on each other is the best for the members
Sakura stepped behind Chaewon & showed support especially during 6 members just debut period.
honestly true, sakura would build all her emotions to herself until she breaks :((( she always tries her best not to cry and be strong for her members.
Yeah exactly. Many groups have leaders who are the oldest which is so hard on them. Others switch leaders between members. So i think its best to have each other to rely on and they were in CLC together so they know how to work well w each other.
you all forgetting that kkura had said before countless of times that she doesn’t like been the leader, even during produce era
i've notice that too, she just wanna make sure they do best as a group
yea it’s a lot of responsibility
It makes sense, especially after her experience with the 48 groups. The leaders there are completely in the trenches running everything in the way a Kpop manager usually does. In fact there was one girl who was the leader of AKB 48 (the first group to be formed) and, because she was good at it, she ended up acting as the manager for every group that was formed afterwards until she was promoting as an idol while holding the title of 'general manager', in charge of like 1000 idols from all of the different 48 and 46 groups. So, even though leaders are different in Kpop groups, I could see that experience completely crushing any desire she might have had to be the leader.
@@miadavis4837She was close to Sashihara who was the leader and theater manager of her group HKT48, and I'm guessing she probably saw how tough it was to be a manager and an idol from there as well.
It’s cuz she thinks she fails as a leader she doesn’t believe in herself. It’s really sad but I also understand having all that pressure to be the best I just wish she had more faith in herself
The more I listen to Sakura, the more I like her.
The girl knows her strengths and weaknesses, and with the amount of power the experience gives her, she can openly discuss these things with management.
For real I think she is an amazing role model
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I think it's good that Chaewon is the leader while Sakura is the nurturer. Sometimes the leader must impose a bit of order, and you can see that brings stress to someone like Sakura. She seems more comfortable being the mom.
True its hard being the mom and the dad at the same time, the leader will impose the rules to maintain their group as a whole while the oldest will nurture each member when they have personal concerns that they can handle 😊
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Sakura is an observer person. And she act faster than words. She's the best at giving emotional support and physical care. No wonder fimmies call her "mom"
First of all, Sakura hate the leader position and you can see this in Produce 48. Also, Hybe from BTS to new jeans, when they form a group they don't give the leader position to the oldest they give it to the middle member or the second. TXT when they appeared in weekly idol they asked them the same question.
Wait, isnt nj's oldest minji the leader?
@@jeonghanlovesjoshua .....what? I don't understand @@..
@@mirochan8588 who is nj's leader? Minji right? But isnt she the oldest too? Or am i wrong, cuz i dont stan nj 😅
@@jeonghanlovesjoshua yes, you are right. I'm not a stan to. But between minji and hanni 4 months.
@@jeonghanlovesjoshua New jeans doesn't officially have a leader, it was part of Min heejin to make NJs different / standout as a kpop group (they also reiterated it on their phoning app). But just based on their interactions, it does seem like minji does take on the responsibility unofficially as she's the unnie/oldest along with Hanni.
And Sakura taking care of the others member like a mom
Yup and we can tell the love and pampered she shows towards members
It’s best when the oldest isn’t the leader as that can create a barrier between them and the rest of the members (they are already the oldest and now they have to lead too). Having someone else (obviously not the younger members so usually second oldest) be the leader creates a balance in power and relationship that is best for a group success rate.
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I think that's basically how HYBE works as well, a leader who leads the group for professional work, and the oldest member who take care of the group outside their work so that the leader is not being burden after work hours
Not surprised. 48/46centers usually had too much pressure so it's always a bittersweet experience every announcement. She probably doesnt want the extra baggage and have had enough of the anxiety
in 48G though "Center" and "leader" are often different people with different roles. Leader is like the "team captain" and "center" is your "ace".
@@kabedondon あっぷ
Sakura supports everyone, pillar of the group
I remember that there's a reason why they don't make the oldest/youngest a leader and it's to avoid conflict
because when the youngest is the leader the others sometimes won't listen to them and when the oldest is the leader the others would be afraid to confront them. That's why they always make someone on the middle a leader so the younger ones can confront them leader through the oldest
Sakura didn’t wanted the leader position. She wanted the ✨mom of lesserafim✨ position
Well she definitely got it 🌸
Y’all need to stop pushing the mom role on Sakura. She isn’t just a mom, it’s getting annoying. Y’all only care about her popularity and how it gives advantages to the group but never speak on how Sakura never gets good lines, screentime or killing parts in their songs and is always treated like a backup dancer
Knowing Sakura from Produce and Iz*One, she would definitely stressed out if she's taking leader position since she puts her heart on her sleeve. Worst case, she's keeping the pain to herself until she's burning out. It's wise of her to acknowledge her limitations ❤
People need to realize that its not because you’re the oldest that you should be the leader. Not everyone can handle that pressure and responsibility.
Tbh, that "oldest member is the leader" was a 2nd gen thing (and I guess 1st).
It's because she already expected the possibility of her being designated as a leader because her age 🩵 even if it's just days apart, it's great to have the second oldest or someone middle in age members to be the leader because they could get the support that they need from their older members as long as there is balance and respect between the members just like in gidle.
sometimes it's also good to have the most experienced member/seniority or the 'oldest sibling in their family' member to be the leader 💛
Sakura is the best supporter for her member she is adorable , kind , craing , preety ❤ i love sakura my bias ❤❤❤ stay strong
Fighting !
Smart kkura
Well,oldest is respected always,so leader and oldest will mean that she is to much highlighted
I really like your way of pronunciation 💗
Sakura is soo real and down to earth love her soo much 🌸❤️
HYBE has a pretty consistent pattern of not having the eldest be the leader, when it comes to their original groups. BTS-Namjoon, 4th eldest. TXT-Soobin, 2nd eldest. Enhypen-Jungwon, 2nd youngest. NewJeans-No official leader. &Team-EJ, 4th eldest, with co-leader Fuma, 2nd eldest.
I think it’s a good model to follow. Dividing that responsibility and giving the leader someone older than them to lean on is really important. I’m glad they followed this model with Le Sserafim & respected Sakura’s decision!
Sakura seems like a really selfless person ❤️ She even said that when Le Sserafim was formed she didn't want to take many lines because she didn't feel like her singing was good enough. Most people are not so self aware and even if they are, they are still so hungry to be the center of attention even if that means bringing down the quality of the whole group. She knows her strengths and weaknesses. She's been doing this for 10 years now, I hope she still enjoys it. I hope she is genuinely having fun.
She never said she is not good enough
@@honeypran in the documentary, she said she wanted less lines until her vocal improved due to hate comments, so she said something along the lines of that but not exactly
Sakura never asked for less lines though. Company stans spread that misinformation of what she said in the documentary and started twisting her words. If you guys truly knew Sakura, she is the type to thirst for challenges, the whole point of her wanting to re-debut was to improve her skills. How is she going to ever improve her singing skills if she “””””””requests less lines”””””.
In the documentary, she said “There was a point where I didn’t want many lines in the song”… but after that, she said “But now, I don’t want to run away anymore. I want to challenge myself.” Y’all need to stop spreading this fucking misinformation, cause it’s aggregating when people bring this misinformation up to push Sakura stans’ valid reasons for wanting to see their bias more in their songs. She never asked for less lines, now she wants to do better and challenge herself, please understand this
HYBE don't assign the eldest as leaders.. I think that's what always happens with all the group that they hold except for the groups that debuted even before being under them like seventeen
Sakura is my bias in LS, but with her and Chaewon's personailties, I think Chaewon is deserving of that role as well. I just see Sakura as someone who can lead people if she needs to, but doesn't personally seek that responsibility. You can see Chaewon is truly a leader type from the get go. It's like Sakura is the Sigma and Chaewon is an Alpha. Something like that. It's very evident in their videos together with the group.
I agree with you 💯. Sakura is my Bias as well.
this exactly! let sakura crotchet in peace she's not the leader type and never wanted to be
SAKURA I LOVE YOU MY LITLLE BABE..💘💘💘💞💞💞
She so proffesional, and know about that
Even if Sakura don't want to be leader I don't think SouMu or Hybe will ever considered her the leader despite her being the eldest or most experienced because she is a foreign member and company tends to made the Korean members leader even if the foreign member is the oldest
but the probability that she being selected as a leader is high, she been in this kind of industry since 2011, her experience is vast especially she coming from a group that having large number of group members..Yunjin n Eunchae expressed her admired towards Sakura who likely would pick Sakura as their leader as well, then Chaewon too i think would select Sakura as well
bc of iz*one what Sakura saw of Eunbi pressure,
Kpop hidden rules
no foreigner leader ,
no foreigner to be competition winner PD48 ,
she was 2nd , WY 1st
Her not wanting to be leader came way before PD48 or any of her disappointment after.
Sakura already had to manage HKT as the vice-captain for 4+ years (she was the leader to dozens of girls since she was 16yrs). She didn't ask for that position either... She even said before she wanted to focus on herself/training her skills (dance & singing) without having to worry about other members as much as before.
btw boys planet has a foreigner winner. some groups has a foreigner leader, most of them are from nugu already disbanded groups and the one who's prolly familiar to all of you is victoria from f(x).
Sakura is really talented I hope she starts releasing singles soon
Ok now l rlly wanted Yunjin to be in that place tho..😭😭
yunjin doesn't have the experience to be a leader, you can't expect 2 industry veterans to listen to a rookie also
@@trueblue5162ok, I get it
She’s straight forward and responsible. I’m sure she would’ve been a great leader as well
I love sakura💖💗💜💗💖💅🏻💅🏻💅🏻✨✨✨✨
To be a leader, someone has to have the qualifications, not always the eldest. Eldest should just guide as they have experience, not only just using sunbae/senpai card on
I'm loving this trend honestly. Back in 1st gen & 2nd gen, the eldest almost always automatically become the leader and it's not always the right choice. i feel like a lot of ppl in this position had to bear a higher burden cuz they have no one to be their support. the newer gens now seem to adapt with having an official leader + reliable hyung/unnie that can establish a better support system for their fellow members.
Just because you're the oldest, doesn't mean you'll be a good leader. You have to have a certain mindset and qualities.
My forever orig center and my ultimate bias..saranghae kura chan
I notice in most groups there are 2 types of being a leader. One that actually leads he group through dance practices, promotions, and etc. Theyre normally the most talented/all-rounder member. The other one having a mother like authority. Giving advice, being a shoulder to cry on, emotional support, and accompaniment.
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Eldest are the one to be there as a support to the leader. Leader needs someone whom he/she can go to like a shoulder to cry on and ask for assistance for the members.
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You don't become a leader just for being the oldest. You have to be a person who is talented enough to help the others in singing and in dance practice, whick sakura is clearly not.
No worries chaewon, sakura is your assistant. Hehe. Btw, love all 5 memberz
It’s another reason is that if the oldest is not Korean then the leader position is given to the second oldest member coz thy know more about the culture of Korea and if the oldest is the leader the other members can’t say their views on stuff coz they have to respect the elders decision
Same as Soobin and Yeonjun from TXT
i think to be a leader you have to have certain personality its not who is older
me personally hate to be leader in any thing it's make me freak out 😂
doesn't matter she's still MOTHER
She had first hand experience seeing how chaotic iz*one was. She knew what Eunbi went thru with 11 crazy members. She didn’t want that😂✌🏻😅
Tbh, it always made sense to me that Chaewon was the leader even if Sakura had more experience. I think having someone who's knowledgeable of the Korean culture and language and well-rounded is super important. I'm sure it would've been hard for Sakura to lead when she's still trying to adjust to Korea
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Chaewon can lean and depend on Sakura❤
i think hybe is doing a great job picking the leader in every group,the oldest is responsible for the emotion of the group and the leader leads the group you can see how genuin and how close the members are
Love this!!! ❤
They just keep surprising me. Also, I need to sit down and watch these recent variety shows they've been on.
Do these groups really need leaders! It really doesn't mean anything anyway.
Well yeah, leaders are often liaise with the company, make final decisions for the group, monitor everything the group does, etc. Just do what leading a team means.
Imagine is there are problems with the company, it’s practical having someone to take responsibility instead of involving all members. If the younger members have a problem it’s easier for them to come to the leader rather than talk with the company directly. The staff is not always behind every member so leaders are the one that monitoring everything or make sure the schedules are followed.
Ofc, we just don’t get to see most of the leader work. We all know what happened with Blackpink.
it’s better for both the oldest member & the one appointed leader that the oldest isn’t the leader because then they can rely on each other when times are hard.
I think when you manage by bang pd when it comes to be leader the second oldest or most mature member to be a leader
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I love the way you add "the shoulder to lean on"
Chaewon is a native Korean speaker and has also been in the industry for a while. In BP, the oldest member, Jisoo, is a default leader d/t spending entire life in SK. Shownu, LeeTeuk, Yeji, S Coups, Bang Chan, Solar, Serim and Irene are the eldest and leader of the group.
It understandable why she doesn’t feel fit to lead the group.
Group leaders honestly don’t have “serious” responsibilities, but they definitely are an emotional & guiding “pillar” for the other members. The leader is also someone who’s usually given a more mature image & sometimes becomes the face of the group.
Many leaders also lead the speeches in awards shows, lead the conversations in variety shows,& much more of the communicator than the other members.
Kkura is a great idol & she’s definitely experienced but that doesn’t mean she’s ready to lead yet. Kkura is still foreign and it means that she hasn’t learn sooo much KOREAN to the point where your basically fluent just yet. Th e amount of pressure is is to keep a mature image is also a factor too…just because she’s older than the others doesn’t mean she’s ready 🤷🏻♀️
I think they have more serious responsibilities, they are often liaise with the company, make final decisions for the group, monitor the schedules of everyone. Chaewon, specially been one of the best vocals and dancers in the group, is also capable of guiding the members with the performances.
Apart from the more technical aspects, Chaewon as a leader also give the emocional support but I think it’s Sakura the one that leads more in that part.
The members have mentioned in many occasions, Sakura is the one that holds the group together. As the more experience and older member, they go to her for advices and support. So Sakura is definitely the emocional pillar but I think she just doesn’t want the pressure of being in charge of the most technical parts and she still have to improve in her skills. And she is fluent in Korean tho
@@Mm29051 I mean sure but it really depends on what company your from 🤷🏻♀️ crap companies will give an idol a leader role just cuz every other group has a leader but theirs won’t a any real responsibilities.
I get where your coming from but I don’t think experience equal good leadership. For a place like HYPE I think most of the leader’s job is to be the face of the group and be the leading speaker. Of course there are extra details but like that’s the main part it seems.
For Sakura she just doesn’t seem to fit the leader role that much. She’s obviously mature & well-experienced in the idol industry but it doesn’t mean she herself could lead it alone while thinking for the other members. I feel like she can’t be under pressure much because she still needs to hown her skills more as being a J-Pop Idol is VERY different a K-pop one.
Chaewon on the other hand has shown to be a pretty good leader and I think with more experience with such a role she may become more pivotal.
@@lilithyolanda9851 i think leading a team still have some technical parts even in companies like Hybe. Just by logistics, if there are issues, someone have to be in charge, they can’t have the five members intervening. Plus Chaewon is always looking and monitoring the members performances or recording sessions.
I mean being the face of the group in public is probably the most important part, which is something I think Chaewon is perfect for but it’s also what it’s easier for us to see.
I still think Sakura leads the group in a more emocional way, just because is what the members have mention. When they talk about Sakura is always about her being the pillar of the group, the one that leads and take care of them, and they definitely have in mind her experience
@@Mm29051 yeah I think Sakura does play a more emotional supportive role for the members. I just don’t think that’s a “leader” quality. I think it feels more like Sakura being an older sister to them.
But she is the warmest and most reliable for the other members imo. Just look at how she takes such good care for eunchae
If we talk about the older one, the leader like Sakura of LESSERAFIM will be followed and they are the oldest but not all the eldest in the Group is the leader and the others are the youngest leader or second to the youngest so the leader is different in the group like BINI PH embis that Aiah who is older than them became their leader the second to the youngest Jhoanna but they are eight... ❤❤❤
Its not really surprising though cuz many groups have a leader that is the second oldest so yeah ❤
Also I've never seen a foreigner being a leader
Victoria is f(x) leader ❤
Sakura is an introvert who loves playing games and staying in her room. Of course she declined the offer before even getting one😄
she so humble
I like this group a lot
Just because Kkura would be an awesome leader doesn't mean she should be if she doesn't want to. I think Chaewon does great in the role and Kkura is great support for her.
Damn i never knew that
it's good when you understand and want this responsibility
A great man doesn’t seek to lead, He’s called to it. -Duke Leto Atreides
I knew that chaewon would be the leader before their debut but i don’t know why people thought it would be sakura
wow i see now why people love her id never seen her the way i did before perfect night. like, a whole nation loved her and shared her with the world.
Mesmo que ela não seja líder, ela tem uma escuta ativa e da um grande suporte ao grupo emocional.. Assim como é no twice
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Her formative years were spent in HKT48. I doubt that she was blind to the immense pressure Sashihara Rino was under as their leader. A lot of weight also rested on Kwon Eunbi's shoulders in IZ*One. If that's not something she wants for herself, then who can blame her?
I honestly don't blame her for not wanting to be the leader, especially if the pay is the same.
HYBE have set a new tradition where the leader is never the oldest. All of their own groups - BTS, TXT, Enhypen and Le Sserafim follow this tradition, and NewJeans have no leader at all
Not everyone wants to be the leader. It’s a lot of responsibility. Not everyone is a natural leader and that’s absolutely fine!
it's easy to manage the second oldest than all of them. so if sakura wants the group to follow something she'll ask the leader to convince the rest why it's the best choice. hahahahaha
fave yunjin song! this gives recent utada hikaru vibes. :) great song
Yeah like in anime chaewon Is the protagonist while Sakura Is the voice of reason AND as they said the shoulder to lean on when she Is stressed or simply having It hard
She's like the Sasuke to Chaewon's Naruto ❤😊
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because she was born flower.. means beautiful cute happy calm. thnks
I think it is really reasonable for groups to not make eldest member as the leader since seniority in many asian cultures are quite heavy, if the eldest member is the leader of the group then jt can be hard for younger members to suggest stuff
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I agree with her decision, it's not that she can't be a leader because she can but she don't want to become one for some reasons and i think one of the reason is because she knows that it will be hard for her to lead the group without someone in the members that she can lean on and can understand her fully about high responsibility of being their senior or their oldest like unnie of her who she can tell and she can talk to when things gets hard for having that high responsibility and some pressure in that position in their group. If i was Sakura, i will do the same thing she did because being a leader is a great responsibility and not only the oldest one can handle and can take that responsibility because sometimes younger ones can take it and the oldest can help them to become a great leader because they can teach the younger on how to handle high responsibility as the leader just like the oldest being the oldest in the group and had a quite high authority among the youngest members. ❤ I admire Sakura for choosing what she think is better and it becames a best decision because chaewon is really a good leader and Sakura helps her to become one of the great leader in kpop industry.❤
It works so well for them
Older? Thats beauty is more deserve. I will agree...
Actually she's tiger, she born to lead. But there is dragon so that was wise decision. She can lead without being leader.
It's better this way because Sakura is really emotional. In their debut, she couldn't stand her group without crying. Chae is stronger and more assertive while talking infront of others.
사꾸라는 아이즈원 시절이 외모가 예뻤는데.. 세월을 못 비켜가고 있다ㅜㅜ 그 와중에 나의 여신 즈하는 매일매일 미모 리즈 갱신이네..
Sometime I don't understand how they choose leaders like all of them gives that alpha energy uk like they know what they are doing hats off
The model of not having the oldest member be the leader does have a lot of merit to it. Nice to see that HYBE took her seriously when she laid out that condition upfront.
Sakura loves eunchae like her own❤❤❤
Walaupun dia tidak jadi leader karna kemauannya tetapi dia selalu bisa memimpin member tanpa dia sadari❤❤❤
And chaewon once said that sakuras has helped her a lot after her became leader. The oldest becomes the leader's leaning place❤😊
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