In DCS I used AWACS calls from me instead of bullseye as a crutch, thank to your video, I get it all now, especially in Falcon BMS with the information on screen from where one is from bullseye.
Fluffer, I noticed a small mistake at 5:42. Due west on a numerical compass is actually 270, not 290. A little nitpicky, but good to know for the beginners. :) A great highly informative tutorial, as always.
"Bullseye" is the vector and distance of any aircraft from a fixed point on the map. Usually it is assigned to the Airbase you T/O from I think, though you can set it anywhere you want in the mission planner by rightclicking and selecting it.
Figure out the bearing/distance range of your area of responsibility in the mission planner. Do this with the ruler tool, and center it on the bullseye. Write the ranges down. When you hear a bullseye callout, check your list. If it is inside your AOR or close start hunting it out with your FCR. Trying to figure out a bearing would just lead to ending up task saturated.
I would love to see a video on how bullseye is employed. I get the theory, but I need to pull out my graph paper and protractor every time to decipher it. In the thick of things how do you keep up your SA and relate a bullseye position to that of your own?
Yep Starprogrammierer says it all, practice and then it gets easier. A quick tip that might help you knowing where your current position is looking at your current bullseye on your FCR or HSD if you have it displayed. So it displays a blue circle with your bullseye. If you didn't know this already the circle has an very small arrow protruding from it. That is pointing to the bullseye. So when u get a bulls call, look at where you are first, then check out your HSI and plot the calls position. If I confused you it was not my intention. I know this method helped me.
It can change between missions. They are changed regularly during combat operations to prevent the enemy from being able to figure out and locate the bullseye location.
Yeah, BRAA (bearing, range, altitude, and aspect) can be helpful, but if you have to communicate over unsecured channels, the enemy can also suss out your position as well. Bullseye is a little harder to crack, and it can also be used for a whole operating theater, instead of just a subsection.
+Jellybeantiger Bulls eye sucks.I have the bulls eye trainer and what I'm guessing is totally wrong.Only for Veruca Salts who were very lucky to be born smart.
U draw on map bogey position and his waiting for U till U intercept him? Get real. Poniter on MFD is all the time showig boogey's position?!?!! Basic explanation (map) is OK but other stuff (most important ones-MFD, how to intercept etc...) totaly wrong.
MFD is showing U U're bull position and U're angle on it. And one look on that shows U where to turn (or not) to intercept (even if U don't have perception in U're head where approximately U are and U're direction.
So in reality when calling bullseye, you have to actually say bullseye. E.g. "Bullseye 040/87 12k" Also, the radial part of the number is said in individual digits, and the range is said as a full number, "bullseye zero four zero, eighty-seven, 12 thousand."
afstealth Depends on the situation. In certain contexts, bullseye can just be assumed, and you call BRA (bearing, range, altitude) when giving a position relative to your own vehicle instead of the bullseye. It depends on what's good radio etiquette for the environment you're in-AWACS would give you a bullseye to simplify directing aircraft from their end (and you would back when declaring targets for engagement), but you might use BRA when relaying RADAR contacts to ships in your own formation or element. And technically speaking, individual digits for range and bearing is preferred.
I'll speak to it from real world experience , declare calls are never done in BRAA if it can be done in BE. The reason is if I say "Group BRAA 250.12. 12k Drag Hostile". I help one pilot or formation. If I say "Group Bullseye 214/35 12,000 Drag West, Hostile" Everyone in the theater on the TAC Frequency knows exactly where the Hostile is , regardless of their position. As far as AWACS our radar had a pretty lengthy delay. Over 10seconds so a BRAA call is a little bit of a guess anyway. I might say Threat SE 12 versus , Threat BRAA 125, 12. Threat calls are always aircraft/ formation specific. It is BRAA btw not BRA. it is BEARING RANG ALTITUDE and ASPECT. Hot ASPECT is always assumed but any other ASPECT must be called. IE Group Bullseye 216, 15, 12,000 flank Southeast , hostile.
In DCS I used AWACS calls from me instead of bullseye as a crutch, thank to your video, I get it all now, especially in Falcon BMS with the information on screen from where one is from bullseye.
good presentation very clear!
This helped me a lot.. Thanks..
You saved my life. Thanks!
Fluffer, I noticed a small mistake at 5:42. Due west on a numerical compass is actually 270, not 290. A little nitpicky, but good to know for the beginners. :) A great highly informative tutorial, as always.
Yeah, I noticed that in post processing and I'm what you would call us Americans... LAZZZZY :)
Tried the bulls eye trainer again.Have no idea.
This you tube still doesn't make any sense.
Someone should make a BMS mode for bullseye, and include some helping tools.
Hi,
Small question: Does "Your bullseye" mean your vector, distance from the "Mission Bullseye"?
Many thanks
TerryW
"Bullseye" is the vector and distance of any aircraft from a fixed point on the map. Usually it is assigned to the Airbase you T/O from I think, though you can set it anywhere you want in the mission planner by rightclicking and selecting it.
OK so now understanding this information it would be nice to know HOW to actually use that information to determine BRA to the target
Figure out the bearing/distance range of your area of responsibility in the mission planner. Do this with the ruler tool, and center it on the bullseye. Write the ranges down. When you hear a bullseye callout, check your list. If it is inside your AOR or close start hunting it out with your FCR. Trying to figure out a bearing would just lead to ending up task saturated.
For extra awareness, you could also figure out bullseye of all your steerpoints to have a better idea of where a callout in your AOR is.
I would love to see a video on how bullseye is employed. I get the theory, but I need to pull out my graph paper and protractor every time to decipher it. In the thick of things how do you keep up your SA and relate a bullseye position to that of your own?
Yep Starprogrammierer says it all, practice and then it gets easier. A quick tip that might help you knowing where your current position is looking at your current bullseye on your FCR or HSD if you have it displayed. So it displays a blue circle with your bullseye. If you didn't know this already the circle has an very small arrow protruding from it. That is pointing to the bullseye. So when u get a bulls call, look at where you are first, then check out your HSI and plot the calls position. If I confused you it was not my intention. I know this method helped me.
Been scouring the net but most tutorials are too technical.
My brain only goes to two lol.
Tried the Bulls eye trainer didn't get any of it.
Mind in a spin like a washing machine.
Over my head sorry.
Is there only one bullseye or is it changed between missions?
It can change between missions. They are changed regularly during combat operations to prevent the enemy from being able to figure out and locate the bullseye location.
Kirk Fickert Thank you!
Any other tutorials that explain it easier?
Reciprocal of 090 is 270. 😬
How to join your Virtual Squadron?
I have severe depression now thanks for making me feel really low by not understanding this.
Still don’t understand it.
And not one reply to help me,falcon 4 ,flown by short men with huge egos.
How can it enhance situational awareness?
Wouldnt someone saying exactly where they are do this instead of doing a rubix cube puzzle in your mind?
Jellybeantiger Well, how would you go about doing that?
Couldn't give a distance then. So you could figure out there heading and altitude but wouldn't know if they're behind or in front of you.
Yeah, BRAA (bearing, range, altitude, and aspect) can be helpful, but if you have to communicate over unsecured channels, the enemy can also suss out your position as well. Bullseye is a little harder to crack, and it can also be used for a whole operating theater, instead of just a subsection.
+Jellybeantiger Bulls eye sucks.I have the bulls eye trainer and what I'm guessing is totally wrong.Only for Veruca Salts who were very lucky to be born smart.
+Kyle Tekaucic Look on a map? Bullseye is BS.I don't understand it.
Still confused.
I tried the Bulls eye trainer program and it is garbage.Doesn't explain anything.Another Falcon 4 narcissist tool.
U draw on map bogey position and his waiting for U till U intercept him? Get real. Poniter on MFD is all the time showig boogey's position?!?!! Basic explanation (map) is OK but other stuff (most important ones-MFD, how to intercept etc...) totaly wrong.
MFD is showing U U're bull position and U're angle on it. And one look on that shows U where to turn (or not) to intercept (even if U don't have perception in U're head where approximately U are and U're direction.
So in reality when calling bullseye, you have to actually say bullseye. E.g. "Bullseye 040/87 12k" Also, the radial part of the number is said in individual digits, and the range is said as a full number, "bullseye zero four zero, eighty-seven, 12 thousand."
afstealth Depends on the situation. In certain contexts, bullseye can just be assumed, and you call BRA (bearing, range, altitude) when giving a position relative to your own vehicle instead of the bullseye. It depends on what's good radio etiquette for the environment you're in-AWACS would give you a bullseye to simplify directing aircraft from their end (and you would back when declaring targets for engagement), but you might use BRA when relaying RADAR contacts to ships in your own formation or element.
And technically speaking, individual digits for range and bearing is preferred.
Kyle Tekaucic I'm talking about real world operations in the USAF....
Oh, you're speaking from IRL experience?
I'll speak to it from real world experience , declare calls are never done in BRAA if it can be done in BE. The reason is if I say "Group BRAA 250.12. 12k Drag Hostile". I help one pilot or formation. If I say "Group Bullseye 214/35 12,000 Drag West, Hostile" Everyone in the theater on the TAC Frequency knows exactly where the Hostile is , regardless of their position. As far as AWACS our radar had a pretty lengthy delay. Over 10seconds so a BRAA call is a little bit of a guess anyway. I might say Threat SE 12 versus , Threat BRAA 125, 12. Threat calls are always aircraft/ formation specific.
It is BRAA btw not BRA. it is BEARING RANG ALTITUDE and ASPECT. Hot ASPECT is always assumed but any other ASPECT must be called. IE Group Bullseye 216, 15, 12,000 flank Southeast , hostile.