yesss i already know this is gonna be a banger love ur vids also can u try what if goku was half angel idk if it will be a good one but i thought about it cuz the whole series led up to goku reaching ultra instict and having angle genetic might change the story up a bit
Another awesome video! -I have an Idea what if Granolah was in Resurrection F? (basically Granolah would find out that freiza was revived early and would go to earth to get revenge on the saiyans and Frieza)
Nah man I think you're wrong to say Zamasu would die from soul punisher. Literally the only reason he became infinite was because he was immortal and unable to be killed. Without a body and his inability to die he just started merging with existence. The only thing that could kill him was a power beyond super shenron like Zeno. I don't believe for a second that Gogeta would just override his immortality.
I saw somewhere that said zamasu wouldn't be affected by the spirit bomb cause it targets the evil in someone and kills them and zamasu was pure of heart cause he genuinely believed he was doing the right thing so I don't think soul punisher would work
Cool video , btw , It was mentioned that Vegito is unable to power down to stay longer , it one of the downsides of mortals using the Potara , no powering down
There’s only one problem: Vegito and Gogeta are just Goku and Vegeta fused in different ways. They can do the same attacks. That means if Vegito can do the Star Breaker like Gogeta, the result would be the same regardless of which fusion they use.
unfortunately we just haven’t seen that, the logic makes sense but we have seen both fusions use unique moves which the other hasn’t, even in games they have different move sets because you have to remember, gogeta and vegito are different people, that’s why they say they are neither goku nor vegeta, they are new identities entirely and have different variations of moves, hope this helps!
@@SacredSaiyan Yes, both fusions are different. I know they are new beings but both Vegito and Gogeta can perform the same attacks, like the Kamehameha. So if they can do the same attacks, their final moves like Final Kamehameha and Stardust Breaker are essentially the same thing.
I had a cool Idea, what if goku was raised by fortune teller baba. Magic has been left relatively unexplored in dragon ball, so you would have a lot of creative freedom with what you could do. For example, goku could be a standard elementalist, or an oracle like bardock, or if you eanted to be more in line with babas connection to otherworld a necromancer who contracts the many martial artists of the other world to fight alongside him.
@SacredSaiyan the whole point of the arc that he hates evil. He is not evil, but PURE. he despises evil, thats why he wants to annihilate evil, and hes together with himself for *-JUSTICE-*.
@@CallMeIAN1 he believes all mortals are 3vil (they aren’t) and that he isn’t evil (he is), he can be pure of heart and still evil, he believes his actions are justified but they aren’t, they are evil, the soul punisher doesn’t care what they believe, it erases all evil even if it isn’t believed to be there, if frieza didn’t believe he was evil, it would still affect him because he is
@SacredSaiyan his soul is still pure, his actions are for a -CAUSE- and that cause is his own doing of -JUSTICE-. think of it as if u think u hate someone, which mrans ur heart hates them like hell. Same thing w zamasu.
@SacredSaiyan just for funsies I'd like to see a what if where the android, buu saga and super happens but frieza trains like goku. Maybe some bs where on namek they wish themselves back to earth and survive that way or smth.🤣
I'm going to answer you with the Dragon Ball canon when zamasu makes a tea for his master it comes out black instead of coming out normal that means he has hate in his heart and if you really believe that killing a race because it is inferior to you is not evil I don't know what it is because if I go around killing dogs because I am superior to them and you tell me that doesn't make me evil I don't know what your logic is like saying that a murderer is not evil or has a heart pure because he says that all humans are trash and that is why we deserve to die and you tell me that he still has a pure heart then idk
I would argue that even if zamasu became infinite with the universe I honestly believe the soul punisher would override the evil making him a benevolent and just infinite God post attack
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The funny thing about the about the fusions that goku could have done in the buu saga against buuhan and since gokule worked as a fusion to beat buuhan in a hypothetical sense I believe a fusion between tien and goku or goku & pikkon work as well.
looked better in the thumbnail, also the thumbnail literally shows the 4 different opponents in the video 😂, would also make it an uneven number of fights
I don't agree with the Oni being killed by Vegito. It is minor though, so that's fine, but I feel like Vegito would have just done the same thing as Gogeta, staring him down. More importantly though, even the Hakai can't erase immortals. I'm not sure what gives you the impression that the Soul Punisher can, but I do also think another possibility is available: an immortal could continuously end up getting tortured by the energy of the Breaker until all of their evil within is gone, essentially reforming them. For Zamasu, well, he's too far gone, and he'd just be erased over and over. The only other thing is that I'm pretty sure you misworded something, but I wanna make sure. Around 11:02, you say that Vegito would know from the Zamasu fight to not waste his energy, although the whole scenario has Gogeta fighting Zamasu here.
it’s because he wasn’t entirely immortal once merged, future trunks could even destroy the body, gogeta could do the same and prevent infinite zamasu from taking place as the soul is destroyed, all these scenarios wouldn’t be in the same continuity, it’s more like 4 mini scenarios so i didn’t misword it, hope this helps!
@@SacredSaiyan I get what you’re saying, I’m just saying I disagree and more think that the Soul Punisher wouldn’t exclusively finish it, leaving the immortal parts of the Soul in disarray. Thanks for explaining that last bit though, makes ten times more sense knowing they’re separate scenarios instead of singular.
For the Gogeta fight, you missed the core ingredient Sacred Saiyan, and that's Zamasu becoming good. All evil thoughts of killing mortals would be whisked away, and will more than likely purify Zamasu. Not killing him, but at the same time, winning as Zamasu will stop his own rampage. All because Gogeta threw an entire brick wall called guilt and remorse.
that’s an interesting interpretation but i would care to disagree, since for instance in the janemba fight, by that logic janemba as a whole should of turned good rather than being destroyed and the kid coming out alive, but that is an interesting thought
@@SacredSaiyan Well the difference with Janemba and Zamasu is that Janemba is the culmination of the evil energy in HFIL, that is the evil that was extinguished, not the boy. Like a pearl in a mud ball. Zamasu on the other hand, believes that killing mortals is fine, finding *_satisfaction in killing his victims._* Tainting his soul. Like a Pearl covered in dirt. Soul Punisher didn't change Broly because he was just grieving out of madness. A shiny pearl. But I digress as it is just my own opinion. Although it is quite interesting to speculate on what might happen to Zamasu if he gets hit. Will he be a good boi like the king of demons that got sent to heaven just because he would enjoy HFIL? Will Zamasu be purified out of existence? Or will it not affect Zamasu?
I personally think the soul punisher wouldn’t work on Zamasu, so it seems like things like if you know your actions are evil, only then will something like the spirit bomb or soul punisher would work. Such as the devilmite beam not working on Zamasu. However you could say because goku black maybe evil, as they are in a mortal and even confirm he has mortal desires.
it’s never stated the attacks are based on belief, kid buu doesn’t believe he’s evil, he doesn’t believe anything, he just is evil so the spirit bomb worked on him, janemba didn’t think he was evil, he didn’t think anything, he just was and the soul punisher worked on him, so i would disagree, and the devilmite beam would be the same, many people can be evil without believing it
I'm going to answer you with the Dragon Ball canon when zamasu makes a tea for his master it comes out black instead of coming out normal that means he has hate in his heart and if you really believe that killing a race because it is inferior to you is not evil I don't know what it is because if I go around killing dogs because I am superior to them and you tell me that doesn't make me evil I don't know what your logic is like saying that a murderer is not evil or has a heart pure because he says that all humans are trash and that is why we deserve to die and you tell me that he still has a pure heart then idk
You’re actually wrong about the soul punisher. it can kill anyone even if the enemy is pure of heart. He would kill Gohan Goten trunks and piccolo completely by accident
The soul punisher always confused me, seeing as it not only spared the demon kid in Fusion Reborn but it didn’t KILL Broly upon impact in the Broly Movie. . Assuming that it was the same concept. I’m not sure how it works, would it target the ‘evil,’ within Zamasu? Zamasu was pure of heart, not in the good sense but he believed his intentions were so pure his heart became pure. Does the soul punisher target the evil or the sins a person had committed? Good video doe, liked itz
Simple answer is that the soul punisher is just an energy attack in canon. It only purifies people and destroys evil in none canon material. Otherwise it would have done more to Broly than what it did.
@@SacredSaiyan I don't think people make enough comedy fanfiction imagine Goku with Looney tunes powers or is a comic gag or even better takes arale as a z fighter or teacher.
Okay so just some constructive criticism. Gogeta’s Soul Punisher in canon does not do what it did in Fusion Reborn. We see this in the Broly movie. So Gogeta would have had to do what Vegito did against Buuhan but would have lost because he had less time. If he just killed Buuhan, he would have killed his kids too. Vegito clearly didn’t do it for that reason, Gogeta also wouldn’t. And in the Fusion Zamasu fight. Gogeta Blue would not be able to kill Infinite Zamasu. So either he tries to stall to figure out a way like Vegito did and then his fusion runs out. Or he kills Zamasu and loses to Infinite Zamasu.
I appreciate you voicing your opinion respectfully and i understand why you believe that but i do disagree with you, the reason the soul punisher works different on broly than it does on janemba is because broly simply isn’t evil, therefore it couldn’t have the same effect of erasing the evil within someone if there isn’t the evil to erase, like how the spirit bomb doesn’t work on good people (at least in z) so gohan and krillin could bounce it off of themselves, the spirit bomb not acting on them like it would with someone evil, i hope this helps
Yeah i would agree that gogeta would do better than vegito due to that move. However, think it would end the same like in the anime but faster. As we can see soul punisher has similar properties to spirt bomb which where i think the move came from. As fusion creates the perfect figher from both beings. And what we see how trunks "beat" zamasu through the sword of hope was similar to how spirt bomb is made thus having removing evil property like soul punisher which like a better version of it. So i believe gogeta would make infinite zamasu come faster. Due the zamsu being immortal/invincible from super shenron. Should be better than immortality from normal shenron. Thats what i believe. Oh i'd also like to add that thw vegito broly fight should be fine without worries. As in the first place in black arc that was the first time the fused using blue. And they still had problems with ssjb energy consumption as not long agobthe reason Vegeta lost to hit was that exact reason as he was using blue to prior. And as we know the fusion technique can be defused due to a shorting of the time limi as we have 2 examples of gt and buu arc Gotenks who used transforms that they had not mastered completely and the fusion used it and ton much power in gt gogeta caused him to defuse prematurely and gotenks somehow could use ssj3 but due to its power consumption also casued them to defuse. But luckily hasn't happened to gegeta as in fusion reborn since it should be after cell but before buu( i think) goku has perfect control of ssj to where its basically his base and Vegeta should have proper training with ssj as well tj where it should not drain him. So the fusion had perfect use of ssj and could end it. Broly movie gogeta had better use of blue that than vegito as unlike them goku/Vegeta had more time to train blue to reduxe the energy consumption. And also due to the fact that this is after perfected blue and evolution blue there would be no issues so the same thing should apply here. However, you could say it was due to the earrings. But like the time chamber they fixed that so vegeta doesn't blow it up each time he goes blue sk the same can apply in this made up instance. 😊
@@SacredSaiyando higher forms actually draing gogeta? In the Morden era specifically cause gogeta blue dosent seem to be worried about any time being drained
I think gogeta barly win cause he kill that kid that make a mid ending but may be chance uub not born in buu saga if gogeta did not say anything or goku if did we good if not moro wins (or beerus do job fix timeline)
Soul punisher can’t work on zamasu if he’s pure of heart, not because he’s good but because he is genuinely trying to do something good even though it looked evil
it’s not about what zamasu believes, zamasu believes he is in the right but he isn’t, he is evil, many evil men believe they are justified but they aren’t, the soul punisher doesn’t care what you believe it cares about the evil within someone which zamasu is filled to the brim with
@@SacredSaiyanNope. Vegito is never overconfident. If you are actually better than your opponent and prove it, then you’re not overconfident. You’re right. That’s exactly what Vegito did. He never even played around. He tricked Buuhan into absorbing him and pretty much did all he could against Zamasu. Also Gogeta was stalling to convert evil energy into good. That’s why he didn’t just kill Omega. Also Gogeta was playing around in the Broly movie more than Vegito ever has funnily enough.
@@shadowsansvii8715 vegito was literally mocking zamasu and playing with him, there’s multiple memes of it like “are you really crying” etc, and gogeta didn’t play with broly, he simply didn’t go all out straight away in order to conserve his energy
Hope you guys enjoy this different style of video! Would you want to see more like it?
yesss i already know this is gonna be a banger love ur vids
also can u try what if goku was half angel idk if it will be a good one but i thought about it cuz the whole series led up to goku reaching ultra instict and having angle genetic might change the story up a bit
@@Divine_215 thank you!
You forgot about omega shenron
Do you have a Discord server?
@@SacredSaiyan bring back what if Goku joints raditz
Gogeta: deletes the evil in peoples hearts
Vegito: kills children
😭😭
That's why Vegitos the goat
Nah,the point is gogeta is better
@poppeyboy9714 frrr
Gogeta only does that in none canon material. And Vegito never kills kids. That’s why he didn’t just kill Buuhan. Did you even watch the show? Lmao.
Let’s get him to 50k subs he committed to all of us I never seen a UA-camr do that before ❤
@@MichaelPhelps-x4i won’t happen for a while haha
Another awesome video!
-I have an Idea what if Granolah was in Resurrection F? (basically Granolah would find out that freiza was revived early and would go to earth to get revenge on the saiyans and Frieza)
thank you!
Not much happens. After al granolah was only strong because a dragon. If you want to say he makes the "become the strongest" wish early. Then ok
It futile
Legends players: pstd returns and shaft music starts playing
🤣🤣
@@SacredSaiyan it’s lucky for a got him
Ik
Nah man I think you're wrong to say Zamasu would die from soul punisher. Literally the only reason he became infinite was because he was immortal and unable to be killed. Without a body and his inability to die he just started merging with existence. The only thing that could kill him was a power beyond super shenron like Zeno. I don't believe for a second that Gogeta would just override his immortality.
like i said that can be certainly argued so i respect your opinion 👊🏻
I saw somewhere that said zamasu wouldn't be affected by the spirit bomb cause it targets the evil in someone and kills them and zamasu was pure of heart cause he genuinely believed he was doing the right thing so I don't think soul punisher would work
But he didn’t die he got erase
@@MrRamenNoodles69420 Zamasu believing himself to be pure of heart is nothing more than a God's delusion. He is NOT pure of heart.
@@_WiZ420but he is pure heart because he believes what he's doing is right, Zamasu's belief that mortals are evil and his actions are justified
8:02 IT'S FUTILE!!!! 🔥🔥🦅🦅🦅
lol
glad to see the different out comes of the fights with different fusions.
mhmmm
Cool video , btw , It was mentioned that Vegito is unable to power down to stay longer , it one of the downsides of mortals using the Potara , no powering down
i dont think that was ever stated, like literally ever XD
This was neat! For people who say Zamasu is pure hearted, he was literally killed by a Spirit Bomv in Xenoverse 2 which implies otherwise heavily.
Was about to comment this exact thing. His body is immortal, his soul is not. Idk how people miss that
and even if he is pure of heart, like i said in the video even if pure of heart, he can still be evil which he is
@@SacredSaiyan exactly. I mean Vegeta became Pure of Heart in the Granolah Arc but he was still a cruel fighter.
@@SonZackSSJ9k , the anime and manga say otherwise screw your stupid game.
The spirit bomb affects people who are pure of heart. For example on Pure Buu, and Goku himself in the ToP.
Ive been subbed since the first episode of what if goku was in my hero and ive had a real nice time watching all your what ifs
nice man!
Made this exact video awhile back, swapped ones are always fun. Good vid cheers 💯
oh did you i didnt even know 😂 did yours turn out around the same?
@@SacredSaiyan wont know till more time passes, im confident this one will do good regardless 😎
@@SaiyanPodcast i meant as in the scenarios since you said you did the same idea of them swapping fights XD
Another awesome what if wow you should have more subscribers than you already have rn
Wow, thank you!
Awesome video. I can't wait see more
thank you!
There’s only one problem: Vegito and Gogeta are just Goku and Vegeta fused in different ways. They can do the same attacks. That means if Vegito can do the Star Breaker like Gogeta, the result would be the same regardless of which fusion they use.
unfortunately we just haven’t seen that, the logic makes sense but we have seen both fusions use unique moves which the other hasn’t, even in games they have different move sets because you have to remember, gogeta and vegito are different people, that’s why they say they are neither goku nor vegeta, they are new identities entirely and have different variations of moves, hope this helps!
@@SacredSaiyan Yes, both fusions are different. I know they are new beings but both Vegito and Gogeta can perform the same attacks, like the Kamehameha. So if they can do the same attacks, their final moves like Final Kamehameha and Stardust Breaker are essentially the same thing.
@@moef8971 until we see gogeta do final kamehameha or the other way around, that is headcannon but understandable logic like i said
@@SacredSaiyan Thanks it funny to thing which one this strong but both are strong
i love all your videos
thanks!
I had a cool Idea, what if goku was raised by fortune teller baba. Magic has been left relatively unexplored in dragon ball, so you would have a lot of creative freedom with what you could do. For example, goku could be a standard elementalist, or an oracle like bardock, or if you eanted to be more in line with babas connection to otherworld a necromancer who contracts the many martial artists of the other world to fight alongside him.
hmm
This prob gonna be a banger like all of his videos.
hope it was!
@@SacredSaiyan it is a banger ngl
Check the description for an Easter egg
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Two months no video??
correct
@@SacredSaiyan My goat hasn't posted in so long
Could you do a continuation of your video of superman was in dragon ball?
not sure
Great video and i just joined ur discord
thank you and welcome!
Zamasu is literally pure of heart. My man works for only justice.
still evil
@SacredSaiyan the whole point of the arc that he hates evil. He is not evil, but PURE. he despises evil, thats why he wants to annihilate evil, and hes together with himself for *-JUSTICE-*.
@@CallMeIAN1 he believes all mortals are 3vil (they aren’t) and that he isn’t evil (he is), he can be pure of heart and still evil, he believes his actions are justified but they aren’t, they are evil, the soul punisher doesn’t care what they believe, it erases all evil even if it isn’t believed to be there, if frieza didn’t believe he was evil, it would still affect him because he is
@SacredSaiyan his soul is still pure, his actions are for a -CAUSE- and that cause is his own doing of -JUSTICE-. think of it as if u think u hate someone, which mrans ur heart hates them like hell. Same thing w zamasu.
@@CallMeIAN1 you do realize even if he’s pure, his actions doesn’t make up for his soul.
10:31 i heard you wanted Vegito
huh
@@SacredSaiyan i heard you wanted Vegito
@@maybe339 alr
Ok i got a what if that may be short but what if frieza trained like goku?
he solos in a week 🤣
@SacredSaiyan just for funsies I'd like to see a what if where the android, buu saga and super happens but frieza trains like goku. Maybe some bs where on namek they wish themselves back to earth and survive that way or smth.🤣
discord invite doesn't work :/
@@elluhdi just edited it, try again now
"I'm neither Goku nor Vegeta... I AM THE ONE WHO WILL DESTROY YOU!!!"
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ITS FUTILE 🦅 8:02
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discord invite doesnt work
@@alex-qz4wu not sure why that would be
Should do a what if vegito gt vs omega shenron
maybe
I came back after a month not dissapointed
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Yo! Enjoyed!
good!
What happened to the discord?
a previous mod got some friends and nuked it unfortunately, if you got banned tell me your user and i can solve it
skib skib
I personally think the soul punisher wouldnt hurt Zamasu as he was still pure. As we can see from when Zamasu made Gowashu tea
i understand your opinion but like i said, you can be pure of heart while also being evil, pure intentions but evil actions
@@SacredSaiyani agree with you on that!
I'm going to answer you with the Dragon Ball canon when zamasu makes a tea for his master it comes out black instead of coming out normal that means he has hate in his heart and if you really believe that killing a race because it is inferior to you is not evil I don't know what it is because if I go around killing dogs because I am superior to them and you tell me that doesn't make me evil I don't know what your logic is like saying that a murderer is not evil or has a heart pure because he says that all humans are trash and that is why we deserve to die and you tell me that he still has a pure heart then idk
I would argue that even if zamasu became infinite with the universe I honestly believe the soul punisher would override the evil making him a benevolent and just infinite God post attack
fair enough
Im a new fan :D
nice!
Hello. I am here to exist for the first time. Also this is your latest video on the channel at the time i comment this and it was a month ago. My guy what have you been doing. 💀
not uploading lol
@@SacredSaiyan Lol.
The funny thing about the about the fusions that goku could have done in the buu saga against buuhan and since gokule worked as a fusion to beat buuhan in a hypothetical sense I believe a fusion between tien and goku or goku & pikkon work as well.
hmm
Tien is too weak for Metamoran Fusion, he'll pull Goku back too much.
What if Goku turned super saiyan in the Saiyan Saga
might do at some point
What ahout SS4 gogeta you even had in the thumbnail
looked better in the thumbnail, also the thumbnail literally shows the 4 different opponents in the video 😂, would also make it an uneven number of fights
I don't agree with the Oni being killed by Vegito. It is minor though, so that's fine, but I feel like Vegito would have just done the same thing as Gogeta, staring him down. More importantly though, even the Hakai can't erase immortals. I'm not sure what gives you the impression that the Soul Punisher can, but I do also think another possibility is available: an immortal could continuously end up getting tortured by the energy of the Breaker until all of their evil within is gone, essentially reforming them. For Zamasu, well, he's too far gone, and he'd just be erased over and over.
The only other thing is that I'm pretty sure you misworded something, but I wanna make sure. Around 11:02, you say that Vegito would know from the Zamasu fight to not waste his energy, although the whole scenario has Gogeta fighting Zamasu here.
it’s because he wasn’t entirely immortal once merged, future trunks could even destroy the body, gogeta could do the same and prevent infinite zamasu from taking place as the soul is destroyed, all these scenarios wouldn’t be in the same continuity, it’s more like 4 mini scenarios so i didn’t misword it, hope this helps!
@@SacredSaiyan I get what you’re saying, I’m just saying I disagree and more think that the Soul Punisher wouldn’t exclusively finish it, leaving the immortal parts of the Soul in disarray.
Thanks for explaining that last bit though, makes ten times more sense knowing they’re separate scenarios instead of singular.
What if goku had the solo levelling system?
hmm
So what do you think @@SacredSaiyan
Hey I got banned from your discord server for no reason? What happened?
@@57manalex a former mod nuked it, you should be able to join back
@@SacredSaiyan Whenever I use the invite link it says "Unable to accept invite"
You missed SSJ4 Vegito VS Omega Shenron.
yeah i was only covering z and super, maybe ill do that as a short at some point
The fact that super Saiyan 4 gogeta was on the thumbnail but not in the video it's a bit clickbaiting
i just couldn’t find a better posed gogeta and i literally show all 4 fights that will happen in the thumbnail
If you can make this what if ultra vegito was sent to mha
one shots the verse lol
For the Gogeta fight, you missed the core ingredient Sacred Saiyan, and that's Zamasu becoming good. All evil thoughts of killing mortals would be whisked away, and will more than likely purify Zamasu. Not killing him, but at the same time, winning as Zamasu will stop his own rampage.
All because Gogeta threw an entire brick wall called guilt and remorse.
that’s an interesting interpretation but i would care to disagree, since for instance in the janemba fight, by that logic janemba as a whole should of turned good rather than being destroyed and the kid coming out alive, but that is an interesting thought
@@SacredSaiyan Well the difference with Janemba and Zamasu is that Janemba is the culmination of the evil energy in HFIL, that is the evil that was extinguished, not the boy.
Like a pearl in a mud ball.
Zamasu on the other hand, believes that killing mortals is fine, finding *_satisfaction in killing his victims._* Tainting his soul.
Like a Pearl covered in dirt.
Soul Punisher didn't change Broly because he was just grieving out of madness.
A shiny pearl.
But I digress as it is just my own opinion. Although it is quite interesting to speculate on what might happen to Zamasu if he gets hit. Will he be a good boi like the king of demons that got sent to heaven just because he would enjoy HFIL? Will Zamasu be purified out of existence? Or will it not affect Zamasu?
what if ex fusion was cannon? its a really good idea that you should do!
hmm
Ohhh I like it!
thank you!
@@SacredSaiyan your welcome! I need to watch rest of your video! 😄✨
What if the earthlings had yadrat techniques
hmm
I personally think the soul punisher wouldn’t work on Zamasu, so it seems like things like if you know your actions are evil, only then will something like the spirit bomb or soul punisher would work. Such as the devilmite beam not working on Zamasu.
However you could say because goku black maybe evil, as they are in a mortal and even confirm he has mortal desires.
it’s never stated the attacks are based on belief, kid buu doesn’t believe he’s evil, he doesn’t believe anything, he just is evil so the spirit bomb worked on him, janemba didn’t think he was evil, he didn’t think anything, he just was and the soul punisher worked on him, so i would disagree, and the devilmite beam would be the same, many people can be evil without believing it
I'm going to answer you with the Dragon Ball canon when zamasu makes a tea for his master it comes out black instead of coming out normal that means he has hate in his heart and if you really believe that killing a race because it is inferior to you is not evil I don't know what it is because if I go around killing dogs because I am superior to them and you tell me that doesn't make me evil I don't know what your logic is like saying that a murderer is not evil or has a heart pure because he says that all humans are trash and that is why we deserve to die and you tell me that he still has a pure heart then idk
This is interesting
thank you!
(What if Hercule ate the good buu candy after evil buu turned him to candy)
hmm
@@SacredSaiyan I had this idea and went to every what if channel I watched and sent it lol idk if it's been done but it sounds cool to me
Superbuu hercule
You’re actually wrong about the soul punisher. it can kill anyone even if the enemy is pure of heart. He would kill Gohan Goten trunks and piccolo completely by accident
so why’d the kid in janemba survive?
What if goku could take people's abilities and dna
hmm
@@SacredSaiyan like cell
Goku borrows friezas potential and trains for 1 hour and becomes omni king
What if Future Trunks stayed in the past
hmm
The soul punisher always confused me, seeing as it not only spared the demon kid in Fusion Reborn but it didn’t KILL Broly upon impact in the Broly Movie. . Assuming that it was the same concept. I’m not sure how it works, would it target the ‘evil,’ within Zamasu? Zamasu was pure of heart, not in the good sense but he believed his intentions were so pure his heart became pure. Does the soul punisher target the evil or the sins a person had committed? Good video doe, liked itz
it’s certainly an intricate technique for sure, and thank you
Pretty sure it's just the evil or negative energy
Simple answer is that the soul punisher is just an energy attack in canon. It only purifies people and destroys evil in none canon material. Otherwise it would have done more to Broly than what it did.
@@shadowsansvii8715 except broly isn’t evil so wouldn’t work on him the same way like how the spirit bomb doesn’t work the same way on good people
where is scared he disapread
@@percocetxd i’m not 🤣
No Vegito vs Omega Shenron……that’s unfortunate
maybe for a youtube short
What if bulma made her own cell
hmm
What if Goku went beast on namek
hmm
Bruh the whole series is gonna be done, as soon as the villain breathes
@@Blackatar_the_last_Backbender 🤣🤣
@@Blackatar_the_last_Backbender yes but it wouldn't be too bad to have it comedic or short story.
@@SacredSaiyan I don't think people make enough comedy fanfiction imagine Goku with Looney tunes powers or is a comic gag or even better takes arale as a z fighter or teacher.
Okay so just some constructive criticism. Gogeta’s Soul Punisher in canon does not do what it did in Fusion Reborn. We see this in the Broly movie. So Gogeta would have had to do what Vegito did against Buuhan but would have lost because he had less time. If he just killed Buuhan, he would have killed his kids too. Vegito clearly didn’t do it for that reason, Gogeta also wouldn’t. And in the Fusion Zamasu fight. Gogeta Blue would not be able to kill Infinite Zamasu. So either he tries to stall to figure out a way like Vegito did and then his fusion runs out. Or he kills Zamasu and loses to Infinite Zamasu.
I appreciate you voicing your opinion respectfully and i understand why you believe that but i do disagree with you, the reason the soul punisher works different on broly than it does on janemba is because broly simply isn’t evil, therefore it couldn’t have the same effect of erasing the evil within someone if there isn’t the evil to erase, like how the spirit bomb doesn’t work on good people (at least in z) so gohan and krillin could bounce it off of themselves, the spirit bomb not acting on them like it would with someone evil, i hope this helps
What if Bardock was born with god ki
hmm
@@SacredSaiyan um guessing hmmm mean no
@@TheBlackOtaku hmm means uncertain, not a yes or no
@@SacredSaiyan ohh I see
Tldr: Fusion is busted
lol
smmappy the hedgcog is not here
what
Yeah i would agree that gogeta would do better than vegito due to that move. However, think it would end the same like in the anime but faster. As we can see soul punisher has similar properties to spirt bomb which where i think the move came from. As fusion creates the perfect figher from both beings. And what we see how trunks "beat" zamasu through the sword of hope was similar to how spirt bomb is made thus having removing evil property like soul punisher which like a better version of it. So i believe gogeta would make infinite zamasu come faster. Due the zamsu being immortal/invincible from super shenron. Should be better than immortality from normal shenron. Thats what i believe. Oh i'd also like to add that thw vegito broly fight should be fine without worries. As in the first place in black arc that was the first time the fused using blue. And they still had problems with ssjb energy consumption as not long agobthe reason Vegeta lost to hit was that exact reason as he was using blue to prior. And as we know the fusion technique can be defused due to a shorting of the time limi as we have 2 examples of gt and buu arc Gotenks who used transforms that they had not mastered completely and the fusion used it and ton much power in gt gogeta caused him to defuse prematurely and gotenks somehow could use ssj3 but due to its power consumption also casued them to defuse. But luckily hasn't happened to gegeta as in fusion reborn since it should be after cell but before buu( i think) goku has perfect control of ssj to where its basically his base and Vegeta should have proper training with ssj as well tj where it should not drain him. So the fusion had perfect use of ssj and could end it. Broly movie gogeta had better use of blue that than vegito as unlike them goku/Vegeta had more time to train blue to reduxe the energy consumption. And also due to the fact that this is after perfected blue and evolution blue there would be no issues so the same thing should apply here. However, you could say it was due to the earrings. But like the time chamber they fixed that so vegeta doesn't blow it up each time he goes blue sk the same can apply in this made up instance. 😊
fairs
Read it again i added something for the vegito against broly. Not sure if you did already@@SacredSaiyan
Bruh Infintie Zamasu still happens. Sorry bro. No meat riding.😊
respect your opinion
Gogeta State like this for 30 minutes
But not vegito we can use his power more one more stay like this 1 hours
higher forms drain vegito faster than they do gogeta
@@SacredSaiyando higher forms actually draing gogeta? In the Morden era specifically cause gogeta blue dosent seem to be worried about any time being drained
Ss4 gogeta would be close to ssb goku he's getting whooped
@@valtyt2670 lol
I think gogeta barly win cause he kill that kid that make a mid ending but may be chance uub not born in buu saga if gogeta did not say anything or goku if did we good if not moro wins (or beerus do job fix timeline)
fair enough
tie breaker would veigto ssj4 win where ssj4 gogeta didnt
might do that for a youtube short
No Vegito would've done the same thing SSJ4 Gogeta did against Omega Nigron.
@@Blackatar_the_last_Backbenderno this is when Vegito was permanent still so there would be no need for the universal spirit bomb
@@Blackatar_the_last_Backbender gogeta was absurdly cocky vegito goes for the kill
@@SacredSaiyan surprised u didnt do it the movies arent canon yet you did the fusion reborn movie so why not gt
Soul punisher can’t work on zamasu if he’s pure of heart, not because he’s good but because he is genuinely trying to do something good even though it looked evil
it’s not about what zamasu believes, zamasu believes he is in the right but he isn’t, he is evil, many evil men believe they are justified but they aren’t, the soul punisher doesn’t care what you believe it cares about the evil within someone which zamasu is filled to the brim with
Are you dead
yes (no)
In GT they made Gogeta overconfident
which is more of a vegito trait in cannon
@@SacredSaiyanNope. Vegito is never overconfident. If you are actually better than your opponent and prove it, then you’re not overconfident. You’re right. That’s exactly what Vegito did. He never even played around. He tricked Buuhan into absorbing him and pretty much did all he could against Zamasu. Also Gogeta was stalling to convert evil energy into good. That’s why he didn’t just kill Omega. Also Gogeta was playing around in the Broly movie more than Vegito ever has funnily enough.
@@shadowsansvii8715 vegito was literally mocking zamasu and playing with him, there’s multiple memes of it like “are you really crying” etc, and gogeta didn’t play with broly, he simply didn’t go all out straight away in order to conserve his energy
I had no idea that this comment would start a argument😅
Soul punisher is op
fr
Only when it’s not canon.
60th view lol
nice lol
Gogeta would've solo'd the Vegetto fights (I didn't start the video yet)
😂
Gogeta loses to Zamasu
@@NobodysCivilAnymoreand Buuhan
what if king vegeta was a super saiyan
hmm