Can Gravel Bikes Really Do It All?
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2019
- The rise of competent do-it-all gravel bikes has raised the question, can one bike be your only bike? With two wheelsets, different tyres and a modern clutch derailleur groupset with disc brakes, on paper it seems more than capable of mountain biking, gravel riding and road racing.
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Do you have one bike to do it all?
Yes, for two days now (Focus Mares 9.8), and I couldn't be happier!
As a triathlete I really need my TT bike. But my other bike is a do-it-all Ritchey cross bike that I use for everything else --- group rides, touring, commuting, gravel, etc.
I consider getting a 700c wheelset for my 650b gravel racer. This way I can change the wheelsets between "off and on road" while keeping the same geometry, handling, everything I am used to on this bike.
Specialized Diverge
Specialized Diverge
The looks my wife is giving me at the end of this video are amazing. I can feel the hostility towards si emanating from her eyes. "No more bikes!"
Hhahaha!
Yeah, wives just don't seem to understand men. The look we give them when they have 50 pairs of shoes with 50 purses to match them. And let's not even count the dresses to match them.
@@montiraruba2831 but shoes are cheaper :) even if you have a lot it's still less than one good bike.
Welcome to the club:-)
Anja O bless you 🙏🏼
Really enjoyed this. The actual topic was interesting but the highlight was Si's ear to ear grin after both races.
Just joined my first race today Si. I finished last but I enjoyed every minute of it
You can only get better, mate.
I didn’t finish my first race, by the time of my fourth race I got in the extended podium 5th place
Having fun is a win!
@@rodneysmart9774 indeed
Clint Nieves Good Job. Only one way to go but up!
GCN is usually good, sometimes very good and occasionally excellent. Excellent video!
Cheers John!
Agreed...I was cheering during the rAce....16 not too shabby for the off road race...
I'm literally horrible at racing - but I race all the time. Toeing the line is intimidating, but you give it all you've got and the cycling community will celebrate your finish like you just won the Giro. That's the best feeling! Just sign up, show up, and race like nobody's watching. You'll be so glad you did it!
Good decision on keeping the pedals the same. Mountainbike shoes and pedals are the epitome of do-it-all gear IMO. Also I loved how much fun you had in both events. True passion.
Cheers Daniel, some great days out!
Profiled mountain bike shoes are considerably heavier than road shoes.
@@GerardvanReekum but 200g don't matter so much if the rider weighs 70kg.
And if you don't race, it's totally fine.
@@sebastianjost Be my scientific guest, it's a free world. But to me, the rider's weight seems of little importance for comparing the weight you want to pedal around the bracket with both your leg musles (i.e. approximately 11,500 times per hour ridden).
@@GerardvanReekum your legs and feet have weight too. 100g more on each foot doesn't matter that much.
Also I don't think lifting your feet is what wears you out the most while riding, it's pushing down on the pedals, when you transfer the most amount of force to keep moving.
For hill-climbs, the rider weight is even more directly related as you have to move every gram you carry up that mountain. But 200g more or less are for most riders probably about 0.25% difference.
Therefor I think for the vast majority of cyclists, 200g heavier shoes are not a big deal and certainly not enough reason to loose the ability to walk normally in your cycling shoes.
Can't explain how much I love these kinds of videos from GCN. Also, Si's joy after the race is contagious =)
Aww cheers Welves
Aww cheers Welves
Would love to see GCN review lower-end bikes. Not everyone has a bottomless wallet. I have a Triban RC520 (shimano 105s, hydraulic assisted discs) - I find it a brilliant commuter and very comfortable on trails, but too heavy to be a good road bike. It'd be nice to see what you guys think of these compromise bikes.
I love this kind of bike, got a format 5551 which is alike yours. Gotta say, love it more than my giant tcr.
Format 5221, sorry
I've mentioned this before, but no answer. £500 is more than enough for me, not £2000!
Geoff Taylor I have a feeling they do these high end bikes because the companies either give them for free or loan them for free. So I imagine it’s just a tad easier for them to get them done. I wish they would do some lower end bikes as well though. It’s always nice to see, not everyone has deep pockets.
Bike media is generally paid by the industry to survive (factually, not saying it's good or bad). So there is really no incentive to get people to buy cheaper bikes. What really happens is many regular casual cyclists will end up getting $3000-$5000 even though they can be well served on $1000 bikes.
This video was perfect timing. I bought a MTB and for pass 2 days I have been looking at both road and gravel bikes. I was thinking of buying a do it all bike and it made sense, but at the end of your video you made more sense why I shouldn't get a do it all bike. Also I bought a t-shirt from your shop yesterday! Go GCN!
If not for the two critical mistakes (calling Dan instead of Emma and drenching the bike in WD-40), you would have won that race for sure!
Absolutely smashing video. Well done si and crew.
Understand that if the Sunday feature was am hour long we'll still watch every single second of every single one.
watched 100's of GCN's vids but this is up there with the most balanced and informative.
I was more excited to see Si have so much fun than I was about gravel bikes.
And, really, that's all that matters. Can I have tons of fun with one bike? Yes.
Hell yeah, Si! Honestly it's so awesome that you were willing to come out of retirement to do these events and make these videos. I personally appreciated the time you spent exploring the way signing up and doing these events made you feel because honestly I can imagine it isn't easy to go back and actually race after competing on such a high level as you have in pro racing. Keep up the awesome work !
Cheers, really appreciate the support!
Great video, Si.
I love those longer videoes, where you (guys) tune down the GCN humour quite a bit, and get more into telling and showing the story - from a more serious point of view.
Great work 👌
Cheers from Denmark
Once again a smashing show! Really so much relevant and helpfull content. I made the switch to a gravel bike (Specialised Diverge) and I've never looked back. Steady on gravel and fast enough on road races for me, best move ever. Awesome show guys! 👍👍
Thanks for the Si-washing-a-bike montage. It's been a while 🤣
WD-40 and the cap on backwards...
Where's my Popcorn? 🍿
It was not on backwards.
17:36, there's definitely a peak at the back. That's not a skull cap. 😋
@@Malesoun Haha indeed. I wonder if it was casting a shadow so for filming they reversed it.
And putting some WD-40 mist on his brake rotor in the process...
Who eats popcorn with porn?
best GCN video so far. Thank you guys!
Another interesting and well thought out film, well done GCN team.
About twenty years ago I had a go at designing a custom frame, the perfect do it all bike, a fast touring road bike that used an MTB groupset, with narrow tyres. I crashed it on a curb on the second ride which dented the top tube, because of strange handling, but that frame was awesome fun. I never quite figured out how to make it work though, it was harsh off road, slow on road and the narrow tyres kept pinching at anything less than 50PSI, making off road grip frightening... Which is probably why I loved it. These days it is wall art in my office, another inspired but ultimately bad idea. I often dream of building it up again, but there is only so much room in the fleet and I just cannot bring myself to get rid of it, it might be next to useless, but I loved it.
Great timing GCN am just looking at the best bike for a 12 mile commute on road and on gravel tracks. Good to see Si checking in his encyclopedia Britannica of excuses before each race. This was ace ♠️👍
Si and CGN should definitely do more racing events. Especially these weird and fun races.
Thanks for the video. I will look for a gravel bike now, just because I don't want to swap bikes everytime.
Si is just the best gcn presenter. Great video
Been a while since a gcn presenter took part in an actual race. Love those episodes.
Literally built up a Gravel/Road all in one last month.
1xDi2, road shifters with MTB derailleur & Cassete (44t +11-46t).
1 pair of Token roubx prime carbon wheels with GP 5000TL 32c (road)
1 pair with hunt gravel 35 carbon wheels with WTB Resolute 42c (Gravel).
Still need a full-sus. But now I can cover [full-sus, hard tail], [CX, gravel, touring & road] with just 2 bikes.
GCN conclusion is spot on IMHO & respect for the great results :)
omg that go pro footage and editing has me drooling. looks like a type of ride i would want to do.
So glad you brought up that last point actually, it's something most people don't think about. Also I'm so gutted to have missed you at Castle Combe! Been going there almost every week but had other commitments on the week you were there!
Nice video Si! Adding some competitive stuff to the channel is a great idea!
Well done, I really enjoyed this one, makes me wanna get out and ride right now, but I can't, I'm at work.... Will do afterwards though!✌🏼
Great video mate. Loved the story telling and style of it. Cheers
Great video, especially the part at the end about the mental aspect of how a bike feels. I did a very short/intense Hill Climb yesterday. 24 hours before the race, while out on a short “opener” ride, I broke the spindle in half (installation error) on my lightweight carbon bike. It wasn’t fixable in time, so I had to do the race on my aluminum endurance road bike with heavier wheels and 28mm tires. In other words, on my do it all bike for road, gravel, dirt roads. Although the bike calculator said the weight penalties should only be 30 to 40 seconds (on the 23 minute race), it felt like double that.
For the average person and normal use, yes, one bike is enough. If you’re tearing up single tracks or racing up hills or crits, you will be at a disadvantage without the proper bike. Most people won’t care or notice or need anything more than one bike though.
I like that Sy did the road race with MTB pedals. I have now MTB pedals in both my bikes (city/trek and road), so I can use both pair of bike shoes with both bikes. Also I like MTB pedals and I can't see that I would never need road pedals anymore. For city riding MTB pedals are great, because they make the bike more thief proof (mine are extremely difficult to ride with normal shoes).
6 and a half, then 7 years since his last road race, I was just waiting for 10 years since and further excuses 🤣
Fair play Si, great results and entertaining video mate.
Very convincing! No one sells the concept of the benefit of gravel bikes better than you! And you just proved it in this video and all the other gravel bike videos. Thanks! Very interesting!
awesome video to watch while also very relevant and informative, great work!
Great video. For a 1 bike garage, the do-it-all bike is a great choice.
Si, at 10:17, when you needed a pro pep talk, I thought you were gonna say:
"Hi Dan, you alright mate? Is Oli there?"
;-)
PS. Like the bog roll touch - classy!
I half expected Dan to show up in the race.
Seems like you have forgotten Dan used to ride for the Cervelo test team. Havent seen Oli pulling that off.
@@michiel831 if they want real pro advice then they should ask Emma, she has Olympic level experience among other things.
@@Maxwaehrens Emma is gone Max. The is in GCN heaven chilling with Matt.
Was expecting Lasty to answer the phone,...
this was such a useful video!! thx gcn :)
Great video,
I have a KONA cyclocross bike and have toyed with the idea of a second set of wheels for strictly road. Great information in this video.
Well, I think that you need at least 2 bikes. For me, my road bike is for performance and fun while my gravel bike is for fun and performance!
2 wheelsets is enought if you have a frame that fits both categories. I only need one bike for gravel and road and one track bike for fun
I would say one full suspension fatbike and one gravel bike
Lightweight F/S mountain bike all the way.
Mmm, I’m not sure. I’ve already told my wife that 5 bikes just doesn’t cut it nowadays!!! Can I buy this new one because it has........?
A MTB would be more fun than both ;)
Great video Si. have GCN thought about a club series in Bath?
Awesome video Si! Love it!👏🏻💪🏻👍🏻👊🏻
im not really into racing and i was looking for a bike that can do all and this video was given me a piece of advice that gravel aren't really at disadvantage at all thank you for that and i love it how you enjoy the race :))
Si is the perfect GCN rider for that type of event! Dan is that cool only a "boss" can be and GCN made my day again :)).
BIG BIG THUMBS UP!
OMGG the contents are coming in
Send more presenters to race GCN!
Damn it hyped me up to sign up for a race as well..
Excellent video again from GCN! Thumbs up!
Awesome video. This proofs my point I have made as well with my Momsen GP300 Gravel Bike here in South Africa. I have on more than one occasion, proofed and impressed some of my friends that you can have a do it all bike. I won't get rid of my MTB just yet, for the days you need to encounter big mountains and scary rocks. But to be honest, my MTB is about 6 years older than my Gravel bike and according to Strava, I've done more miles on my Gravel bike already.
si is the man. i'd watch him do a video on racing chickens. he's the steph curry of cycling - the joy he brings is unmatched. thanks guys.
I run SPD's on all my bikes (MTB, Gravel and Carbon race bike). Nothing wrong with that, at least you can still walk with them on. ;)
BTW, Gravel is my gravel, commute, pubride and sometimes my singletrack bike.
Just made the switch to spd-l since my trusty cx shoes gave up. Honestly I feel zero difference through the pedal stroke and much prefer the comfort my s works cx shoes gave vs their road shoe.
NIce riding, Si! Great video and exciting racing!
great looking footage, excellent presentation, some cinematic drama choir music --> super entertaining video, on one of the most interesting topics at the moment (for me). Thanks again GCN :-)
My new Merlin GX-01 will be shipped very soon, so I start my own Do-it-all bike experiment ...but I already feel the hesitation to sell my proper carbon roadbike (even though it's pretty old :)
Got my gravel bike and love it. Just saving up for a road specific wheel set (and cassette and disc rotors) and then I’ll be set. It really will be a Swiss Army Bike.
Andrew Kirk and you will never use it because of the fucking about to switch everything around will kill the joy of it
17:22 "you can only ever ride one bike at once" Challenge accepted!
Wonderful production once again GCN, great vid. I have a Cannondale Slate which is a weird, heavy gravel bike. I'm getting a new Argon 18 Krypton GF these days. With 32 mm tires, this will be my goto bikes for packed gravel and road. So, my all around bike will have an endurance frame. I'll send a pic in a few days, should be inspirational.
Really enjoyed watching Si really enjoy riding...and now I'll have MY well-earned beer. Cheers!
Company: spends hundreds of thousands of dollars on aerodynamic research and engineering
Racers: stick big flat pieces of cardboard on the front
Well this is usually only for MTBs which are not very aero anyway
Well, at least everyone has the same disadvantage.
Nopinz spend loads on good fit for aerodynamics then we have to attach a parachute to our backs😂
Matt Parsons I don’t, I use velcro race numbers for my road race skin suits
Well Si, I own a road bike Cervelo R3 and a specialized diverge and I switched tires to Roubaix pro 28’s and it does fantastic on road and trails. The Diverge is heavier than my R3 at 21 lbs but I take shorter rides on it.
Whats the model of your Diverge, rudy? Im starting to get real about biking. I have a rockhopper but since i ride mostly tarmac or not-so-loose-stuff pavements, im thinking in getting a single bike and swapping just tires/wheels. Is the Diverge entrance model enough to get me started in more serious biking?
Great video as always! Thanks
Since i bought a new gravel bike (Norco Search XR) in December 2018 I've pretty much used it for everything. Its great for commuting, weekend road rides up to 120kms, gravel rides, and a 400km multi-day off road ride on the Mawson Trail. I still have my other bikes for now but they've pretty much sat in the shed since December. Looking at getting a 650b wheelset to open up even more options in the future.
The guy at 4:12 can't believe he's witnessing a drop bar bike go past him.
That happened to me at the Three Ring Circus in 2012, a 15 y.o wearing a Tutu overtook me on my big 150mm all-mountain rig, riding a CX bike.
We were climbing at the time, I will point out.
Pete McKinlay Thats so mee😂😂 dressing up in my enduro kit riding a road bike🤣
I think u should enter a gcn team into the road race for a season see how you do and document it all
Great video, really enjoyed that one. :-)
Fantastic video! About two years ago I decided at the prompting of a neighbour to take up cycling again to help me rebuild muscle tone and have the pleasure of riding once more following a decade of chronic neurological illness (= lots of pain). International move later, and six months ago I earned myself a very nasty disc hernia at L4 which all but paralysed my left leg and left me in excruciating pain. Luckily, my operation was cancelled on March 17th, which was the day the lockdown was announced in France! So I've had to learn to live with the pain, work with a physio, slowly come off morphine, and can walk again with probably no need for surgery any time soon.
Anyway, the reason for that background is that I'd already decided that a gravel bike would probably be my ideal riding machine as there are a lot of non-paved tracks and roads around where I live. Now if I understand spine mechanics enough, the riding position for a road or gravel bike would be incredibly detrimental to my back injury as it would continually compress the remains of the disc. Therefore, I suspect that a mountain bike with road tyres, raised handlebars, and a suspended seat post might be the way to ease back into riding. I think that you could do a great service to many riders or would-be riders (especially the not-so-young folks like me -- I'm 62) if you could film a video on these kind of issues. Thanks a bunch and stay safe and healthy!
One bike to rule them all..my precious. 💍
Si, did you know your DS for this race used to ride for the Cervelo Test Team?
Really? if that's true He's really quiet about it ;-)
It feels almost as good as riding for Cervelo Test Team yourself!
Absolutly awseome vid!
Would love to see more of these vid.
This is the vid I have been wating.
I have 10 bikes, a bike for every occasion, I would love a bike that was built to do it all.
a masterclass in pre-race excuse making
You're supposed to actually open the beer to enjoy it 😂
Great video and well done Simon! 👍🏻
this was awesome...I just booked the Merida Gravel Silex 400 series bike, and cant wait to use it on the road and off the road :)
Great video! Think I would rather have two cheaper, lower spec bikes than the one gravel bike in practice
same here mate now I don't feel pressure to buy a expensive gravel bike and get two good bikes with great gear and less wear and tear when have two bikes
I went for the cheaper, lower spec gravel bike. Reduce to the max. ;)
Like the saying goes, jack of all trades but master of none. I have a gravel bike currently and will be upgrading to a proper road bike for my weekend expeditions! The gravel bike while great for commuting and a backup option, I just won’t be able to go fast enough.
Great to watch, and glad to see you enjoying yourself, Si. Excellent soundtrack choice too.
I keep eyeballing that Orbea at my LBS--can't get it, but I can dream!
As for "Can one bike do it all?"....only if you live in a climate without much snow; I won't be riding my road bike much come winter, even if I can fit wider tires on it. Fatbike all the way for winter.
I love how on the battle on the beach intro to the bike, it turns from clean to muddy then back again
A do it al bike is great when you don’t have the money for more than one bike. Or the space. I have one bike and 2 different tyerssets it is for me the best option with te money i have. Ofcourse i want 2 or 3 different types of bikes but i need to pay my bills also.
Great video and good to see you back Si.
I imagine the bike that he is riding in this video costs as much, or more, than two ride specific bikes.
Daniel MacDonald my bike was not zo expensive idd. And Yes i don’t have the best bike or group set on te market but i can ride. I think thats the most importend thing
I just put money down on a trek check point sl6. I can’t wait
Or if you go on a trip where conditions vary - you always have only 1 bike available during a trip, that's why an all-rounder like gravel-bike comes into play.
Of the Castle Combe race track came to mind an idea for CGN challenge: 24-hour race. That came to mind because I have wanted to do Le Mans 24-hour cyclosportive for years, but I haven't managed to find enough fools to do with me.
Rad am Ring comes to my mind right now
2nd favorite GCN video other than the bike packing trip. So engaging
Cheers Matt, thanks for the support!
Agree @mattG-P GCN's bike packing vids have become my favorite as well! 👍❤️😎💯
Thanks for this. It is odd as I got a gravel bike after my 29er mtb was stolen. Originally as a commuter bike but as I started to use it I realised just how fantastic it was at just a out anything. I use it year round in Ottawa, Canada, so it gets lots of rough stuff thrown at it in terms of weather and wear. But it gravels, forest tracks, roadies and icies like a pro. I can't afford your kind of kit, but I appreciate seeing that s real pro can use a gravel bike in pro settings and really do it all. My regret this year is living so far from some serious gravel rides in Europe. Cheers.
You won the Rás. You don’t ever need to worry about racing again¡
Apart from spreading enthusiasm and fun for bike riding. I just love the moment you get the wd40 out. I bet that had a lot of the chain lube police out in force!!
The eye contact was the best part
Great article. Thanks GCN.
I use my cyclocross bike for everything! I love it! :) nice video too guys!
I wanna see GCN presenters enter a race as a team
you forgot to mention that gravel bikes make excellent winter bikes with great clearance for mudguards and excellent brakes for wet weather.
Only thing is that 3T doesn't have mudguard/fender mounts (way to go Vroomen & 3T! Makes perfect sense....)
Thanks for the informative video. I currently have one bike for commuting, recreation, training and sportives, a Genesis Datum 20 (105 disc group set). I feel exposed by only having one functioning solo bike, and at times stressed and frustrated when parts brake, which can take several days to arrive on my door step. My adventure bike is the most versatile that I have owned. I think I will be investing in a second sportive aero bike, at the very least to provide me a contingency. I have used the bike for 20 months, mainly with 32mm tyres, which have probably allowed me to take some KOM's as I have been able to rattle my way through rougher terrain with ease, but now that I have moved to 28mm tyres my average speed has risen by 2mph. Choices......
fun, informative, helpful vid. thanks. I am about to the pull the trigger on a Diverge.
Specialized Diverge, I just change tires depending on road or gravel.
Whats the model of your Diverge, David? Im starting to get real about biking. I have a rockhopper but since i ride mostly tarmac or not-so-loose-stuff pavements, im thinking in getting a single bike and swapping just tires/wheels. Is the Diverge entrance model enough to get me started in more serious biking?
Is there any alloy version of the 3T Exploro or something like it from other brands that is made on alloy? 😍
Bombtrack audax maybe?
Trek Crockett
Excellent video! Totally agree.
Finally... I was waiting for this great video, just to get your opinion on the question "Can one bike do it all",
because I have 4 bikes and one of them is the 3T Exploro and in my opinion the Exploro can do it all... but every dedicated bike is more fun in it's domain.
A light race bike is more fun to ride fast whereas the Exploro demands more effort to ride the same speed. Especially climbing Tour de France cols is so much easier on a race bike compared to an Exploro.
A mountain bike is more fun on technical mountain trails, whereas a gravel bike will be nicer on gravel roads.
Like so many times, it's all about priorities, possibilities, comprimises, etc.
But at least I have an answer to the question.
Keep up the good work!
A big fan.
Danggg. Hanging with cat 1/2 without training really. Impressive
But those base miles.....
My Open U.P. does it all, and my Pegoretti stays safely in the garage
Heart pounding stuff, I thought I was watching an epic cycle movie! Good job GCN!
Cheers!
My Brodie Romax does it all. It is a cross bike - I've bike-packed with it, cyclocross, a couple of loops in a mountain bike race, I commute on it, and in a month 's time I'll do an IRONMAN 70.3 on it. I love this bike!
The issue is that for the same price as a 3T Exploro and two sets of Zipp wheels you can buy a great road bike such as a Giant TCR and also a great mountain bike. Both the Road bike and the Mountain bike will be better for their intended purpose than a Gravel bike.
you dont need the most expensive frame or wheels . i've got a set up with a super x apex1 and 2 wheels tune and crossmax cost me 2000 euro all brought used.
@@sexyhemch , The Super X is a great bike but 2000 Euros in the used market will get you both a good road bike as well as a good mountain bike.
@@s.9075and bikepacking
@@tomaldous5641 I'd say with the tune wheels it's as fast as any roadbike in the 1000 euro bracket. And for 1000 euro its hard to find a decent mtb + you can do Cx , bikepacking and other thing that a roadbike or a mtb can't do as well.
why not go even cheaper and get a cheap aero, cheap climbing, cheap downhill, cheap xc, and cheap commuter instead of just a gravel bike. they'll all be even better at their respective jobs than one or two bikes will. if you choose to only ever have one is it enough or do you actually need more is the discussion. most of us never even ride competitively so it's a personal line that's more about what people want rather than what they need, which is fine by me. and as someone has mentioned there's plenty of cheaper gravel options as well.
Drink every time you hear "6.5 years". ☺️ JK, good job Si!
you guys are poppin' out some fantastic content! great vid!
Cheers Ben! Glad you liked it.
That was some sick half wheeling Si. Nice work.
Sheesh, when you spray WD40 this casually around the cassette, I'm worried for the disc brake rotor just looking at this in the future and from 1000km away.
I realize he probably cleans and rebuilds his bike 3 times a day but I agree directly spraying the cassette still makes me cringe!
oh man, you do realize he is doing that to provoke people like you, right?