Robin DiAngelo on "White Fragility" | Amanpour and Company
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- Michel Martin interviews Robin DiAngelo, author of “White Fragility,” to talk about what she recognized as her own unconscious bias.
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Originally aired on September 21, 2018.
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I don’t think anybody likes to be generalized. No matter what color they are
Identity politics is a way of keeping us from uniting against the corruption in corporate sponsored government.
Abraham Lincoln, Charleston, Il. Sept. 18, 1858: "I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races.
It’s not fun to be generalized about
@@leapfrog4561 The power comes from having exclusive identities. There is no power in identifying as human.
@Reluctant Human Do you honestly believe that we are all 100% special and that our society has absolutely no impact on our way of thinking.
What is this propaganda and why is it in my recommended feed?
Because the agenda is to move the propaganda of hating white people from its base of black folks over to whites. DiAngelo is a classic self loather and wants others to join her cult.
@Clouded Jay xD no black huh? You know who Barack Obama is? Clarence Thomas? Oprah? Do u not know how to use google, or are you only stupid when it gets you some political advantage?
Oh it happens every 4 years before an election. ....
I could barely get to 6 minutes of her bullshit.
Bill Patterson agreed
I am a black man. I find the writings of this woman insulting, patronizing, and repulsive. I do not appreciate her attempt to "repent" while simultaneously exalting herself as my savior and stripping me of both my agency and individualism. I have a PhD in electrical engineering from a top 10 university. By and large, I did not accomplish that despite white people, but with the support and mentorship of white people. Some got in my way, and were even racist to me, but I overcame them. They don't define me.
I define me.
So I implore anyone watching this. Please don't internalize what Robin DeAngelo is trying to tell you. She is wrong. She will not uplift blacks. She will not "save" whites from themselves. She will only widen racial gaps, poison racial discourse, and create a paradox of white cultural subservience to blacks while simultaneously crushing them under the boot of her white savior messianic complex. You've been warned.
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Beautifully said
Thank you for your comment, you expressed it so well.
Hear! Hear!
We need to be friends based on this comment. Well said!
Robin: You’re a racist.
Vast majority of white people in 2020: No I’m not.
Robin: That’s exactly what a racist would say.
Vast majority of White people in 2020: Huh?
And then Robin starts gaslighting people and making them think they're somehow racist even though they weren't racist to start with.
That is the current social climate in a nushell
Lmao
It a slightly more complex "I know you are, but what am I?"
If that’s not your bag, then read „White Rage“ by Dr Carol Anderson, who is a historian and deals in facts.
Another genius who thinks they know what I think.
HA! either meaning is funny.
can you just listen and let it settle for a minute before becoming so defensive?
@@vmartin65 but why should there be this precursor judgment? Shouldn't we just judge individuals based on their own merit? What gives her the right to assume she know what someone is thinking bc their white? If the same statement was said about black ppl that would be racist. So what makes her saying this any about white ppl any less racist?
@@vmartin65 You don't need to let anything settle to be able to tell that this is absolute bullcrap.
@Kryptk Leo an expert in Scientology is still an expert in bullshit 👀👀👀
"As a 'white person'..."
Every. Time.
I know what you are getting at. I looked for info, but couldn't find any. Got any links? Her wiki bio is strangely very short.
Pretty sure she is not a fellow white.
What is white? what is black ?
Where's your source? I assumed the same but I haven't found confirmation.
It's intentionally short.
The way she speaks about her 'fellow whites', her tone, her gestures and mannerisms, even just her general attitude, talking about us like she's describing some animal.
Maybe I'm wrong, but given the current times and the volume of which this exact set of circumstances has occurred, I'm probably not.
Who does she surround herself with? I do not know a single white person like this...
Visit Fairfield County CT they exist... Not all white people, and much of it comes to a class aspect. That is odd how that isn't mentioned much even though MLK himself saw this as the next big hurdle to overcome. Classism and Racism are intricately linked, but we seem to have forgotten why this is so... MLK considered poverty one of the "three evils", yet we fail to make a connection too often today on how class affects our perception of race.
www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/02/martin-luther-king-hungry-club-forum/552533/
@@kjellvb1979 buddy white theres white rich millionaires just just like there rich black ones, racism has nothing to do with classism, if that were true every white person would be rich and every black person poor.
@@johnnyjohnson5344 the way this woman is talking has EVERYTHING to do with her class. She doesn't encounter a lot of black people growing up I wonder why? She lacks the ability to speak to people without insulting them I wonder why?
She says she was raised to believe she could do whatever she wants I wonder why?
As MLK said, the white liberal is the biggest hurdle.
She has lived a pampered existence and writes a book with an adolescent's understanding of the topic. It's because she's an upperclass white liberal.
You missed the point here
You've never met a defensive white person?
Probably the overpriced salad for lunch Karen crowd, I imagine.
Imagine calling someone "fragile" because they got defensive after being negatively generalized based purely on their skin color. I've never, ever used this word before, because I think it is overused, but this is gaslighting on a worldwide scale.
I think she meant when I say "white people dont like spice" and my mother calls me anti- white racist. That doesn't exist.
@@evan10307 Uh, yeah it does. You just said a stereotype. It's a generalization. That's racist. It's literally the exact same as someone saying "Black people don't like mayonnaise." or "Black guys don't like being fathers."
This was common sense to my generation. It's fucked up this has to be explained to people like you; and it never sticks.
These critical race theorists are taking advantage of the fact that most people today aren’t racist. They know people don’t want to be called racist and will be too afraid to speak up against their racial Marxist BS.
@@Supermanfan99 yes and they're creating actual racism where there wasn't. When the pendulum swings the other way, it won't be pretty.
In psychology, it's recognized as one part of the narcisistic process.
yeah this woman looks exactly how i thought she would.
She's beautiful sooo I guess you thought she'd be beautiful
Yea. Karen wrote a book.
@@Locopueblo AHAHAHA...wait are u serious let me laugh harder and also throw up a little
@Homo Sapien LOL
Zirus Edge she sexy as hell
"White people like to identify as individuals and don't like to be generalized."
Have you met many individuals of color who love being generalized and only treated as a group of persons? I feel like that is a universal feeling.
This woman is a con artist who makes assumptions and presents no facts. Read John Mcwhorter instead of this lunatic medium.com/@annekathrynbailey/5-reasons-the-book-white-fragility-is-shallow-and-destructive-7d8512616aab
Exactly what I was thinking.
Not even a minute in and she’s made a glaring mistake in her logic.
@@John.T. she talks about white people, like the germans did in their "rassenkunde". Books talking about the psychology and biology of juice. So ironic haha.
(Juice obviously means something else. YT won't let me post my comment otherwise smh)
She's just taking advantage of the moment to sell her book🙄🙄
GiGi
And we’re just calling her out on it
"When Did You Last Beat Your Wife?" the psychoanalysis.
Trick question with a trick answer implied: "You will always be beating your wife and I will always ask you why you are doing it."
'You're a racist, and if you deny it, you're a racist.
- Kafka Trapping
Does anyone like being generalized?
Rob yN: No, and it has nothing to do with racism. She is overextending her own experiences and implying them to other people...a kind of internal stereotyping. Maybe I am aware of this because my husband is Mexican-American, and this kind of thing makes him furious. Oh - has someone not told her - that even being able to discuss racism is a form of privilege?
memorykeeper I’m Mexican-American too and this makes me mad too. I’m careful to even mention where In Mexico I’m from because I don’t want the sombrero stereotypes or jokes. (Although that might be all Latin America when it comes to ignorant people)
From what I understand, of course nobody likes being generalized. But the the thing with white people is they're not used it whereas Black people and other POC have always been, especially in America.
@@MemoryCircle Please, explain because I do not understand what you mean. You do not have to be a minority to understand her rhetoric. ALOT of people gaslight the struggle of minorities, if it does not apply to you, What's wrong?
Catlynn Nounoute ...what a ridiculous comment. You’re doing it now, hahaha!
"Being an Individual is very precious to white people"
So that's a bad thing? R you saying other ppl don't see themselves as individuals?
Individualism is a precious ideology for ANYONE with a brain. These GD Marxists are the biggest threat to mankind, not racism or "climate change" or any of the rest of the horseshit they peddle.
Straight out of Marxism. It isn't about individual rights, it's all about groups. It is fundamentally un american!!!
Individualism vs collectivism.
@@MatthewC137 She apparently thinks only white people value individualism. Seems like a racist concept. She DOES seem quite fragile...
there is a difference in comparing individualism with white people and with black people. Think of the differences in history and experience! You don't think that matters?
When her theories are put into practice, it gives the "Evergreen State College" fiasco.
I think she may have spoken there I seem to remember in a doco about that.
@@markeggins890 Yeah she did speak there. A ex student has a whole series of vids on the topic. His name is Benjamin Boyce. Check him out.
Watching Mike Nayna’s documentary I felt really uneasy. it reminded me of the sort of grip totalitarian governments have over their populations. Evergreen should have been the wake up call and not the the awful BLM movement.
Original sin, redemption, and everyone are guilty. Sounds like a CULT and witch hunt. This is going to work out (sarcasm)
Exactly! Wokeness really is a cult
At least you can be forgiven for original sin.... This you can't.
It’s called leftism
@@carairven4152 it is not leftism anymore. It's fascism.
I just imagine this woman hiding behind fake plants at Starbucks, Bass Pro Shops, and Pottery Barns wearing khakis and writing in a notepad like Jane Goodall or Dian Fossey...but instead studying white people.
Thumbed up while cringing.
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The orangutan researcher Birute Galdikas once related a story about how an orangutan once forcibly copulated with her female cook. I wonder if Goodall or Fossey ever witnessed such an event.
Haha 😂
Just I imagine make these arguments with any other race I think people called that racist ....mmmmm
So I take it, she like a white Candice Owens
@@thefallofthewicked5865 She's the polar opposite of Candace Owens. A white Candace Owens would be like Heather MacDonald. Di Angelo thinks very lowly of black people. She goes around to corporations and begs them to hire black people, because she doesn't think blacks can make it on merit.
Dr DiAngelo would have made a good prosecutor during the Salem Witch Trials. She uses Kafka traps.
this is a perfect example of unfalsifiability.
People in the comments are calling out the bs but their are still far more likes than dislikes suspicion 100
A million flies eat shit, doesn't mean its good for everyone else. The Author of the book has produced nothing in life but wants to vomit up, a compassion for you excuse. If everyone contributed as little as she has, this world would be dead.
@@WayneDome-dm8iu holy shit ya brutalized op damn
PBS to Staff: Okay so this morning, you all need to go give this video a like [insert link here].
It’s probably because the useful idiots who believe this nonsense can’t actually form any rational arguments to defend it
They’re proving her point. The defensiveness is always an issue in these conversations
This is what's known as a Kafka Trap.
Great article
Cute, ain't it?
That's why the most important idea in our law ( which is not always practiced because some people are evil) is innocent until proven guilty. If you presuppose someone is guilty and tell them they have to prove their innocence, there is basically nothing they can do. Any attempt to prove innocence will be met with the statement " Well that's exactly what a guilty person would say to try and get out of punishment". The bottom line is if you accuse anyone of anything the burden of proof is on the you. But postmodernists dont like logic and statistics they see it as a tool of control.
Believe Women! Believe Science!
Ohhh nice one
A fool thinks he knows everything, a wise man thinks he knows nothing.
"Better a witty fool than a foolish wit!" Feste, Twelfth Night....By William Shakespeare
REALtigermantis , I, sooo agree!
you are exactly that..........you put up a quote and never followed up............of course because who needs to think about your greats words..................it should be self evident.
and you even fucked up the quote ............A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool.
William Shakespeare
REALtigermantis ...it’s a little harsh calling her a fool...but, I guess you’re right.
Abraham Lincoln, Charleston, Il. Sept. 18, 1858: "I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races.
Every single minute that passes I think "she can't possible say anything that's more ridiculous than the words that just came out of her mouth", but she just proves me wrong again and again.
Lol true very based take
Awww someone popped your comfy ignorance bubble 😂 poor baby lol
Random white person who's just walking: "Hi 😊"
Robin and her supporters: "Racist!"
She’s speaking for white people? I can’t even speak for my brother.
Mrs Robin Diangelo is projecting in the same way that Freud projected. Freud thought that "every young man had wanted to have sex with their own mother at some point". NO. That was him, that was a Freud problem. He was projecting. In the same manner, DiAngelo is projecting. She is a racist lady who thinks everyone is like her. In fact, I truly believe her motive is indeed to revive racism. The USA was running out of racism, and racism is the bread and butter for some people, so here they are reviving it, trying to resuscitate it. I must say, DiAngelo is very good at pretending she is trying "to help". The lady is smart and knows what she is doing. She knows she is injecting racism back into American society. She is quite aware of it. This lady shows some sociopathic tendencies such as manipulation excellence. Watch out!
Just like she said " Individualism is very important for white people " - we think we are unique and one of a kind and social norms dont affect us but they do and she's a sociologist
Gene, that was Freud’s theory. Nietzsche said, “There are no facts, only interpretations.”
@@christinelaframboises3705 thats nonsense . Today is Monday , that is a fact - you can have an opinion that it's Friday but you'd be wrong . Racism in society is an historical undeniable fact of life
@@jonstewartsuperfan2988you misunderstood my comment. That is not what I said. I am Indigenous and am fully aware that racism is a fact. I was simply pointing out that a quote was being attributed to the wrong person.
Thinking about the following quote encourages me to treat people better: "If you have come here to help me you are wasting your time, but if you have come here because your liberation is bound up with mine, then let us work together." Lilla Watson, Aboriginal educator, Brisbane, Australia
Great quote, thank you.
brilliant
❤️🖖
I'm copying this quote. Thank you.
from a Canadian, this is exactly how it is. This is why indigenous groups often block environmentalists from participating in actions. They're only there to "help"...it's completely disrespectful to assume that people who have lived on this land don't know much about taking care of it. personally I think they come just because the cameras are there.
"You didn't choose your socialisation." *This* is, for me, the way in, past defensiveness, because it applies to everyone, black, white, and every shade between. The thinking is flawed, not the human being.
This woman is a con artist who makes assumptions and presents no facts. Read John Mcwhorter instead of this lunatic medium.com/@annekathrynbailey/5-reasons-the-book-white-fragility-is-shallow-and-destructive-7d8512616aab
T Clark ignorance
But where does human thinking come from? I would say flawed thinking comes from a flawed being. If we were all androgynous, homogeneous angels, maybe there'd be hope for peace. But as biological beings, born with difference and instinct for that difference, what hope is there?
@@luckduck5961 Read it and did not see anything of substance.
Not sure why you recommended this?
@@RK-um9tu cuz he's conservative and butthurt that a white woman is actually trying dismantle racism
What comment could possibly address the ridiculousness of this?!
I read this book, and I really find it reprehensible.
The entire book could be summarized as such:
"White people, when told they engaged in racist behavior, exhibit responses typical of defensiveness".
Which is trivial. The rest of the book is a mix of her repeating this about 100 times but by naming a variety of defensive responses.
To be fair, there are some accurate points made. Like when she describes how racism is perceived as a good people / bad people issue, and how this makes discussion about racism impossible because most people, who identify as "good people", have it ingrained into their mind that racists are bad people, and that therefore they cannot be racist. That people have these horrific examples of sadistic slavers and extreme racist violence in mind as what "real" racism is, and that this makes them blind to more subtle yet potent forms of racism. She basically does the same trick with "white supremacy".
Note that she spends a few pages explaining how her definition of racism is very different from the colloquial definition of racism or white supremacy as understood by the vast majority of people. She uses a stipulative academic definition of racism as prejudice + power, framing white people not only as the sole possible perpetrator of racism, but also, as racist as a whole. White people, according to her definition, are racist by default. Racism, here, is a system to which all white people belong, not an individual characteristic. But then of course, will waltz between her stipulative definition and the more colloquial definition of racism depending on what example of a "racist" incident she wants to describe.
This begs the question, why exactly do these activists insist on using a word that, they know, is loaded, and will be perceived as an attack on the people being addressed with it, instead of coming up with a totally new word with its own definition?
What's most reprehensible, I think, is how she routinely exhibits her own racism (in the actual colloquial sense) throughout the book all while being seemingly unaware of it. Countless times she talks about how "we", white people, consider "ourselves" superior to black people. How this superiority complex is impossible to shake from us.
I'm a white guy, and I have never felt inherently superior to black people. This woman can repeat it as many times as she wants, I don't relate to that claim at all. Of course, the book also repeats ad nauseam that basically, any white person who isn't on board with her claims is either lying, or simply lacking in introspection too much to realize that she's right. Which is a really dishonest and cowardly way of just shielding an argument from any criticism or challenge at all. I know I don't feel superior to black people because I do know that I feel superior (erroneously, of course) to many other people in society. But I never had this feeling towards a racial group at all.
So really, she basically spends an entire book repeating she personally feels undeniably superior to black people, but please don't fault her, because hey, we white people are all like that and she's a good one working hard to fix it.
Other example, she points out how everytime she got interviewed for a new position, the people doing the interview were all white, "except for some token people of color". Let's take a second to ask ourselves who here, is making the judgement that when she was interviewed by people of color, these people were in fact only token, selected because of their skin color. Who here, is making the judgement that these people did not deserve their position but got it only to fill diversity quotas?
This type of slips happen repeatedly in the book. Once she tells an anecdote about going to meet a friend at a party, and upon arriving, noticing that there were two groups partying, one all black, the other all white, and she wasn't sure on the spot which group she had go join, and basically felt terrified at the idea of going with the group of black people. Again, speaking to her own racism and prejudice. I've never experienced such discomfort because I was the only white person in the room. But she keeps retreating to this "we're all like that" mantra.
She constantly laments that white progressives often cannot improve on their own unseen racism because they feel like they have already learned all that there is to learn and that they are over racism. That these people are hard to connect with because they are too certain of themselves. Yet she spends the book framing any attempt of any individual at pointing out that some of her accusations towards them might be misguided as just petty people not wanting to see the one truth that she's come to know from her experience.
I’m glad you actually read the book unlike most of the people who commented on here. I’m just starting it and will keep your thoughts in mind
Mrs Robin Diangelo is projecting in the same way that Freud projected. Freud thought that "every young man had wanted to have sex with their own mother at some point". NO. That was him, that was a Freud problem. He was projecting. In the same manner, DiAngelo is projecting. She is a racist lady who thinks everyone is like her. In fact, I truly believe her motive is indeed to revive racism. The USA was running out of racism, and racism is the bread and butter for some people, so here they are reviving it, trying to resuscitate it. I must say, DiAngelo is very good at pretending she is trying "to help". The lady is smart and knows what she is doing. She knows she is injecting racism back into American society. She is quite aware of it. This lady shows some sociopathic tendencies such as manipulation excellence. Watch out!
@@dukheelee7904 I agree. I’m on page 60 and she just acts like every white person is part of a hive mind and because she thinks a certain way, the rest of us do too. The other problem I have with the book is that she keeps redefining words that already have super negative societal context and trying to get white people to agree that they are the bearers of these words. If I said I was racist or a white supremacist in public, nobody would think about it in terms of the way that the author does. Everyone would hate me for saying stuff like that.
I think the moment people say "white people" "black people" you are creating division over colour, which feeds racism. I, like you, have NEVER ever felt superior to "black people." People are just people ffs, and until we see everyone as people and not just colours racism will exist. I honestly dont like it when im called "white girl." Wtf does my colour have to do with anything 🤦♀️
@@kenangedik3678 brace yourself. You're still in the part that makes some reasonable points. Come back here and tell me what you think once you're weeding through the last 30 pages.
What you're noticing about how she redefines words is very important in my opinion. Because it's definitely a tactic that is being used right now in the mainstream media by woke journalists and activists.
In my estimation, they're deliberately reusing words that have an extreme, hateful meaning, because they want to use the punch that is packed by these terms in the minds of the global audience, but the criteria they implicitly apply to determine whether the term applies to someone is totally different from what this global audience understands.
So they'll say that someone in particular is a rabid "white supremacist". And most people who trust the media, don't dig further, and don't particularly know the person being labeled, will just associate the name to what they understand "white supremacist" means. That is, some explicit KKK guy, someone who actively promotes the idea that white people are inherently, by nature, somehow, superior to people of other races, or at least expresses some clear sentiment of racial solidarity (and exclusivity). As they hear that more and more, the name becomes familiar to them and all they know is that this person is not to be bothered with or listened to. Whatever he says, don't pay attention to it.
What they don't know is that what got that person labeled as such is very likely a completely mild comment about a particular policy regarding immigration, law enforcement, or the methods of demonstration of BLM, or maybe an opposition to a quotas policy. The comment may have been ill informed, but overall, chances are that the position expressed by that person was something that most people (or at least a really significant part of the people hearing the labeling) would actually have agreed with, and would've never considered as a sign that someone is a white supremacist.
And people like Di Angelo know that. They know they're manipulating the language to obfuscate the fact that they're just weaponizing this type of accusations against their political adversaries.
Reminds me of a witch hunt. When you finally catch the witch and she denies being a witch, well that must mean she is a witch. This is very sound logic.
That's when I learned some postmodernists philosophy. It actually says that logic and reason are tools of the white hetero patriarchy for control of everyone else. They deny the value of logic and they state it openly in their literature. I implore you to look it up. I didn't believe it until I saw w my own eyes
Metacortex Vortex what do i look up bruh,
RACISIM: BEING PATRIOTIC TO YOUR ANCESTRY and HERITAGE!!!!
"Black Pride"-- racism at its finest!!
@@charliemuhammadhebdo8907 check out some Jordan Peterson on UA-cam. Hes a philosophy professor. He talks about modern philosophy and how it shaped western thought during the enlightenment era and how that basically started science. Also check out Stephen Hicks he has some good lectures on philosophy. They do a good job of teaching how postmodernists philosophy is not scientific really and it's more like a tool to indoctrinate people. But check it out for yourself and see what you think about it. ✌
we're pretty much reinventing witch hunts for the modern age and sadly, it seems like no one even recognizes it
she made a point in the 'dr robin diangelo discusses white fragility' video that i absolutely felt so relieved to hear a white person acknowledge which was the white underlying assumption that 'as a white person, i am the judge of whether racism occurred.'
i was that at a gathering, this guy i knew waved me down as soon as i came in the door, and said 'i need you for something. i'm making the poster for this guy running for office and we just have a bunch of white people on the poster. i need to take some pictures with you. if you bring a few people and you (pointing to the black guy next to me) bring some people, then that would be perfect!' i was so taken aback, all i did was smile nervously. i actually had been working on a campaign myself and i asked if he was willing to help me on that. he immediately looked away and gave a platitude dismissal. i left the gathering and became increasingly upset about it.
now, i am repeating this story to a white friend, who also works in politics, and she begins to defend the action of putting people of color on the poster even if those people don't even know/support that politician....on the premise that the politician is a democrat, of course. it's the ridiculous notion of wanting us to be seen but not actually heard. luckily the other POC woman in the room defended me and said 'BUT SHE DOESNT KNOW THE GUY.' i just watched an hour and half video on 'white fragility' to try to understand that white friend. i doubt she has ever watched a video that long to try to understand my racial experience in america. THAT is the problem. if white liberals want change and truly stand in solidarity, START WITH YOURSELF.
You are heard. I am working to learn how I can change and do better. This interview and your comment help me understand that it's okay to screw up, but to own it and actually listen is what's most important. In fact, screwing up seems to be a necessary part of the work/growth process. Thank you for sharing your experience.
sydandtaytum What?? Hey I suggest remedial English and writing courses asap!! And talk about being Fragile?? D'Angelo is a joke...no one takes her seriously!!
@@bradhamilton9038 you are the proof she is right
The inverse of your arguement is also true. The color of your skin doesnt determine whether or not you think you just witnessed something racist occurred, but rather your own sense of morality and ability of determining the intent of the perpetrating individual.
These two factors will vary from person to person, depending on their individual past experiences and moral alignment (which can be impacted by a myriad of social and psychological factors).
It seems, like the dr, you have a bad habit of generalizing people's past experiences based on the color of their skin (FYI, that is in itself is racist).
I can see this in the first and last paragraph of your post, where you assume that all white people think they are the judges of whether or not a set action is racist, and I see it again in your last post where you assume your "friend" has never research the expriences of people of a similar racial background as yourself.
I would give you the same advise I would give everyone at this current moment in time, and that is to listen to what is being said from all sides, think about it, consider it and ask questions and find out more! If we all did this, the world would be such a better place because would would enact the change we want to see instead of enciting more toxic rhetoric
I also watched that video it was enlightening as an Asian woman to understand better wtf fragile white people think
Sociology major.... now, I know why the logic doesn't make sense.
Mrs Robin Diangelo is projecting in the same way that Nietzsche projected. Nietzsche thought that "every young man had wanted to have sex with their own mother at some point". NO. That was him, that was a Nietzsche problem. He was projecting. In the same manner, DiAngelo is projecting. She is a racist lady who thinks everyone is like her. In fact, I truly believe her motive is indeed to revive racism. The USA was running out of racism, and racism is the bread and butter for some people, so here they are reviving it, trying to resuscitate it. I must say, DiAngelo is very good at pretending she is trying "to help". The lady is smart and knows what she is doing. She knows she is injecting racism back into American society. She is quite aware of it. This lady shows some sociopathic tendencies such as manipulation excellence. Watch out!
Narcissists always project their insecurities and failings on others-it helps ease the guilt.
She is pretty much saying that you have to more than just “not racist” you must ACTIVELY participate in ANTI-racism. Not just in the presence of Black people, but best practices in everyday life. White liberals absolutely need to reflect on their belief system and eliminate some the mircroagressions and passive racism from their behavior. Malcom X and MLK talked about “complacent white liberals”. The movie “Get Out” highlighter this.
She is saying that, and she's right, but my respect goes to the woman who asked, "when you do it again...do you want your correction publicly, or privately?" because it's a fact of life that we ARE going to do it again; not just because of how we were socialized, but also because, as a result of being "just a person," we don't hear how heavy footed and...Karen...we sound. I'm sure that when she mentioned her colleague's hair, she thought she was making an insider reference because she saw herself as being "one of us" in that context. It's hard for a liberal white person to understand that we will never be "one of us" in that way. We *want* to be.... We depend on the generosity of people who are willing to take us aside and explain, and give us second, and third, and five hundredth chances, even though you shouldn't have to and we know you shouldn't have to. We don't have one lifetime of ignorance to unlearn. We have a hundreds of years old culture to unlearn.
And some of us are actually grateful for your latitude.
I need to see that film. This is a wonderful piece.
melissa thompson Yes, we have been very patient about it, but it seems like it’s falling on deaf ears. 53% of white women voted for trump. What does that say? After all of the hate speech, misygony, calls for violence and racism...they STILL overwhelmingly voted for him. I completely understand what you’re taking about when you say “one of us”. There is a craving for Karen to be apart of the Black sisterhood. I have witnessed it with my own eyes. The inappropriate comments, followed by faux confusion when confronted about them. Then come the “weaponized white woman tears” to management. The sisterhood Black women created was BECAUSE we were excluded from white sisterhood. We had to create our own spaces, our own organizations. We were NEVER included. Now that these spaces are more mainstream and celebrated, there is a sense of entitlement. A sense that the spaces Black women created out of necessity, are some how a threat to Karens. I can’t tell you how many times myself and a Black coworker have been speaking privately only to have a “Karen” disrupt and demand to be included. It’s infuriating, because Karen’s space is not accessible to me. You are right, this is decades, centuries of entitlement,. Black girls are taught we have to be “strong” because the world will not be kind to us. White girls are taught they are to be protected and that the world is theirs for the taking.
For me it's more than eliminating own behaviours (you're right about that, and it's hard, and requires continuous self reflection but yes). For me there's also a strong moral duty to do something when other people are seemingly being racist. It doesn't matter who's doing it to whom so I"m not naming skin colours. I just can't get the image out of my head of football supporters chanting racist chants, not even subtle stuff, but nobody around them at the stadium says anything to them to stop, or ask why. Sickening. They think "why should we do something, it's not our business" when it is their business. If we do nothing, we're in the wrong.
She’s putting this into practice daily in order to get better... she’s put in a lot of work to get to this point; it’s her trade.. but white people can make a more earnest, purposeful effort to learn..
Feeling guilty won’t help. Wanting to learn will help.
It’s like going through a mourning process... the person will have stages of emotional reactions...
Gary, you are absolutely right. I'm a person of color. It is also imperative that white people be allies by speaking out when witnessing discrimination and calling out other white people's racist behavior. Your white privilege allows for clout and confirmation of bad behavior.
Carla Barrick : I haven’t noticed other white people paying a lot of attention to what I say, but nonetheless, I do try to call out racism and unfairness when I see them.
@@censusgary Agree, I have tried to come at it head on and I can see their eyes glaze before me or their defenses immediately go up. Had to approach a southern coworker from a "put yourself in other shoes" when discussing the history of her proud confederate battle flag. Not sure if I got in the door but I think I opened it a crack.
@@carlabarrick8538 White privilege?? What is that? Sounds made up to me...to make you feel better! Stop[ gaslighting and get a clue!!
How does this interview have so many likes? The brainwashing is real
But look at the comments? By all means call me a conspiracy theorist, but the GIllette ad showed that UA-cam are undoubtedly manipulating the figures. Wouldn't be surprised if the same is happening here.
@Zod 23 the comment section reflects public opinion.
Likebots
@@nihilistcentraluk442 yeah i bet they saw that earlier - video is disliked to hell and they need to slightly manilulate it
Her: “You suck!!”; Me: “Whah?? ...looking confused”; Her: “See, you have some serious ego issues” ; Me: “Projection much?”
No one wants to be generalized and called fragile. This would include all folks.
The main push back is that the vast majority of white people still struggle and many in abject poverty. The far left seem to blame race for everything but the biggest privilidges in life is actually being intelligent and being raised in a good family. Unfortunately only race and sexuality seems to be on the far lefts radar . Its culture not race causing these issues. You see the uneducated and unloved rioting in the streets on both the left and the right 😢.
"Individualism is a really precious ideology for white people, and we do not like to be generalized about."
This is the root cause of a lot of anti depressant prescriptions
Stephane Malabar 💀
THAT part!!
Individualism is not some trite ideology held by white people. It's the bedrock of our understanding of universal human rights.
@@amychasen7817 It can be viewed as progressed but we are part of something bigger than ourselves, excessive individualism leads to depression, feeling of loneliness and other mental health issues. We're always part of something bigger than ourselves, I thank my parents for giving me birth and understand that I wouldn't be there without them, and my grandparents and so on.
I believe individuals happiness could do with being of service to others, this is a key part to feel rewarded and being included
I love generalizing an entire group of people to have the same trait what does that sound like hmmmm racism
In the case of DiAngelo and other white liberals, it's self-hate.
It is what marxists do with class but people now do with race
Guess who taught them these destructive anti democratic ideas after the 1970s?
Racism is discrimination towards a minority group. Since white is a majority we would consider this more bigotous than racist.
@Harperslee that's not what racism is at all, racism is thinking one race is superior or inferior based on ethnicity, it's nothing to do with power and even if it was the idea that only white peopow have power is total nonsense because there are many non whites who are CEOs, managers, chiefs and leaders/high up in politics also the fact that there is nothing stopping a black person f Tom doing anything a white person does because there are civil rights laws that protect people from discrimination
Also in global context white people are the !minority because there are more black and brown people than white people on the planet
Als o anyone can be racist their ethnicity doesn't matter the idea that a black person can't be racist towards a white person is just laughable nonsense, racism is a part of bigotry and prejudice
Mrs Robin Diangelo is projecting in the same way that Nietzsche projected. Nietzsche thought that "every young man had wanted to have sex with their own mother at some point". NO. That was him, that was a Nietzsche problem. He was projecting. In the same manner, DiAngelo is projecting. She is a racist lady who thinks everyone is like her. In fact, I truly believe her motive is indeed to revive racism. The USA was running out of racism, and racism is the bread and butter for some people, so here they are reviving it, trying to resuscitate it. I must say, DiAngelo is very good at pretending she is trying "to help". The lady is smart and knows what she is doing. She knows she is injecting racism back into American society. She is quite aware of it. This lady shows some sociopathic tendencies such as manipulation excellence. Watch out!
I'm a Native American who grew up in a small Northern location where "we" were the only minorities of any significant number to the majority races of the town and it seems like my family had this unspoken WAR with the major race of the town. We had nothing and what little we did have we were welcomed to spend at certain business but not welcomed in many other business. Now, years later, these kids my age move away for one reason or another and they take that "baggage" with them.... They don't heal, they don't try to move on and many of them continue to be resentful of others and lash out because they feel that their entitlements are taken away from them... 50 years later, my tribe is still treated the same and to this day NEVER given the chance to be a part of a community that it survived in for so long while it crumbles around them. 50 years!!! No change at all. My hometown was my protector, a place where I thought I could return to feel safe and protected BUT it was and still is a VERY RACIST entity that will never go away
Classic Kafka trap. Circular reasoning keeps you in once you accept the premise. It's just a clever trick.
Mrs Robin Diangelo is projecting in the same way that Freud projected. Freud thought that "every young man had wanted to have sex with their own mother at some point". NO. That was him, that was a Freud problem. He was projecting. In the same manner, DiAngelo is projecting. She is a racist lady who thinks everyone is like her. In fact, I truly believe her motive is indeed to revive racism. The USA was running out of racism, and racism is the bread and butter for some people, so here they are reviving it, trying to resuscitate it. I must say, DiAngelo is very good at pretending she is trying "to help". The lady is smart and knows what she is doing. She knows she is injecting racism back into American society. She is quite aware of it. This lady shows some sociopathic tendencies such as manipulation excellence. Watch out!
@@dukheelee7904 copy and paste much?
this must be the way it is in the corporate world (where robin runs her grifter "seminars") because in the real world it isnt like this
Abraham Lincoln, Charleston, Il. Sept. 18, 1858: "I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races.
@@joebloe1401 Is Abe still president?
I was 12 and lived in the projects with a lot of other poor whites and I read Richard Wright's "Native Son" and was so enraged by what he suffered that I could not believe what had happened to him. It remains my favorite book because I identified with the boy in the book even though I wasn't black. It was the injustice that stirred me to despise those people who wanted to deny other people what they themselves had. I still feel that way, be it Black, Hindi, Asian or whatever. This lady is silly. She is trying to advance her idea of blame culture for her own notoriety. I agree with MrCelloman999 that she is insulting and repulsive as well as divisive - which seems to be a current cultural trend.
They continue their 'fight for equality' rants because they make a living as Professors of Professional Victimhood, so far it's working 😂
Imagine you’re on a plane and the person next to you pulls out “Protocols of the Elders of Zion”. You’d be shocked
Unfortunately no...I would not be shocked. Not these days. Nor would I be surprised if (s)he pulled out "White Fragility" or the NoI's "The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews".
"Would you like your feedback publicly or privately?" Damn! I will be using that one.
I suggest not using it on me. Cause your feed back will be seriously public!
I am a brown Asian woman who was in a relationship w a white dude. He was ‘fragile’ all right and denied racism existed. That right there, is the root cause of the problem :-(
@Logic Police I am sure his girlfriend would know better about the person she is dating.
Logic Police I see u didn’t watch the video. Just came to prove the speaker is correct about your fragility
Brown Girls from Asia are Experts in weaponizing the term racist. Given their limmited vocabulary, some women actually abuse this world because they think it makes them sound sophisticated.
Eduardo Viajero you can’t even spell “limited,” so yours will not be the voice we defer to on the topic of using language properly.
Logic Police turn in your badge, you’re not fit for the job.
Diangelo is a scammer. Only a scammer says "You're guilty. And your denial of guilt is proof that you're guilty."
I wish I could give you a thousand thumbs up for this comment.
Yep, Kafka trap fallacy
I know, all defendants would be guilty by her logic."
The fact that everyone in the comments section is calling her out for her bullshit gives me faith in humanity.
WHAT GROUP LIKES TO BE GENERALIZED ABOUT?????????
Generalizing people is offensive.
Yeah, white people. Just take the L instead of defensively perpetuating your white "fairness"
Tons of people love being generalised. "Americans love apple pie, baseball, and trucks."
@Narc 1820
Makes sense, because if a white person talks about race to any person other than a white person, they're automatically slapped (or risk get) around their ears with white privilege. "You're a white person, how could you understand?". Talk about a generalization. Purely on the account of being white too, I might add.
As if all white folks live like kings and queens, cushioned in their marvellous white privilege. It's insulting and just as categorizing. It's stupid too, as if having a certain skin colour entitles you to all the misery in the world.
It's a sort of framing that doesn't really help solve the issue at hand. In a funny way it's an attempt at moral domination. It may be cathartic, but it's also profoundly racist. How do you want to come to a conclusion if the other's arguments are automatically 'white privilege'?
@Narc 1820
"The white elite created whiteness as a privileged social group in order to divide and conquer the disadvantaged of every color which were the majority."
So what then with the majority of white people who aren't privileged? See where I want to get at? As a social justice movement to pick 'whiteness' as your adversary, might be problematic somewhere down the line. It pitches one group identity against another, and it does it in away that is non-debatable: skin colour. You're condemned on sight. Irony.
To this day I cringe when I remember naive comments I have made to black people whom I was eager to befriend and then felt hurt when they cut the budding friendship without explanation. It took years of reflection and observation to realise that what I considered normal remarks about neutral topics were most likely seen as hurtful and insensitive digs. Im extremely sorry about this. I wonder if perhaps white people are at a loss on how to proceed. I would love to live in a normalised world where people rejoice in each other's differences and see the beauty of belonging to a beautiful and uniquely diverse species.
Fiona Tanzer I understand. It's tough. I believe the best way of dealing with the differences between people is to start as young as possible. A child's mind is molded in the home and in the school. Especially school. If you as a parent do what's right at home that can be altered or changed by teachers and others away from home. I think parents need to be more proactive with kids. Talk with them regularly. Ask the hard life questions and walk them through it.
Logic Police You keep making it clear that you’re a bored troll. I bet women don’t really dig u and you don’t earn much. News flash-that’s all your fault.
@Logic Police Yawn. You are almost impossible to offend, and yet you are so offensive. Go figure.
@Logic Police Colored??? Sounds like you're still living in the 60s, man.
@Fiona Tanzer I am a black American woman, now in my 40s. All I have ever wanted to hear from white people was their raw truth, especially when they’ve thought about these issues critically, like you clearly have. I start with the premise that we’ve all been affected by the attitudes in the cultures we live in. So if we live in the western world especially (and really, most of the rest of the world), then we’ve probably internalized racism and white supremacy in some way. So when you’re able to admit that, it doesn’t make me see you as less than or judge you negatively. On the contrary, I am SO happy to hear you admit it and actually want to talk about race matters frankly. It endears me to you. I don’t speak for all black people, but I imagine I’m not alone. I admire your vulnerability and our friendship can go to a deeper level. When you don’t acknowledge it, that’s when I have a hard time continuing that friendship. I don’t expect perfection around this from white people, just a willingness to open up and talk about it. I don’t think you have to be so afraid of getting it ‘right.’
"Like water dripping on a rock, so consistent and so patterned"
Tell a lie often enough and people start to believe it.
I’m a white woman who was raised to be aware of the systemic racism in our country (and western worldview). I tried reading her book but it felt like “101” level where I need maybe “201” level on how *i* can continue my own journey of becoming aware, and dealing with internalized racism. I know not to touch people’s hair. I would never do that. I know that people of color face a whole lot of unfairness and prejudice, in the system and outside it. But I didn’t really find helpful steps for me to take on my own journey.
Hi Emily, perhaps going further and being inspired by the likes of Uhuru which calls for reparations from white people?
We all owe reparations to Black people but it seems to only be directed at white Americans rather than whites in the west in particular as a whole. As a white UK male i hope to see the whole reparations movement and we whites working under Black leadership grow.
When you make people feel guilty, it can actually shut down the conversation.
Sounds like a personal problem
That’s the fragility
thats basically the book in a nutshell
WLH C which applies to people of all ethnicities and colour. But guilt is something personal and if you don’t yourself feel guilty for whatever, it won’t bother you.
@@wlhc5579 You set up things to be impossible
These buzz words are nonsense. They do nothing but continue to divide people. All human beings have fragility because all humans beings find it difficult to deal with the fact that all human beings sometimes judge. The end. By the way you don’t have to consider yourself fragile to make a difference. 🌹
DrBeeSpeaks 💕
If you change the definition of everything, everythings possible.
im confused, are they saying there are groups of people that like to be generalized in a negative way? Of course we dont like the term white privilege??
“Why was that not a deterrent to you..” WOW - exactly what I’ve been trying to verbalize for years...
Because, if anything, it was an incentive.
his opponent wasnt very likeable...
the sheep LOL Thank God you didn't use this book in your courses. medium.com/@annekathrynbailey/5-reasons-the-book-white-fragility-is-shallow-and-destructive-7d8512616aab?fbclid=IwAR2foWWajmtorUjWKG_36oZLZZB56_PrHyldIlUaRXF8zMKdF3UEMQXxcTg
I'm not surprised that she started as some corny corporate diversity instructor.
1:12 "I'm a vegetarian, how could I be a racist?" Adolf Hitler practiced vegetarianism. The statement is also a non sequitur, which is representative of her work. We see that Prof. DiAngelo understands neither history nor logic.
It is called sarcasm
Hitler wasn't vegan. That is a fallacy. But even if that was the case, most psychopaths in history liked to torture, crush, and murder animals, and eat them, so your point is illogical.
As a white person I was raised to see the world as something I belong to, not something that belongs to me, I was raised to realize that the universe is to big to find so much importance in my short 80 year life, as a human I realized later in my life that reality can be very tricky, and never to take one person’s account as my reality. I wish people would be more humble and more educated, that’s when race would really not matter, not because we should all be equal, but because our life spans are so short and not important to the overall universal scale WE ALL BELONG TO.
“I’m a vegetarian; how could I be racist!” 😂
“Im a vegetarian. How can i be racist?”💀💀💀
Are you white? Or partially white, Asian is also partly white, then you are a racist! …. At least that is what this new religion of Anti-racism says.
@@coenvanderlinden7375 you got it wrong, my friend. But I hope you are safe. Stay healthy.
I love how she calls out Barack Obama as racist. I guess his half racist by her logic.
I can smell the canned cat food from here.
And the boxed wine
Umberto Eco had it right when he said that nowadays charlatans through social media are regarded more than Nobel Prize winners.
Until they get to know me, I always feel that all people are more prejudiced towards me than I am towards them. I always have to work for people's acceptance and respect but I rarely feel like they are working for my acceptance and respect.
The active word is "feel". *Are* they more prejudiced towards you, or do you simply *feel* that way? In case of the latter, then your feelings are inconsequential.
I feel that way too.
@@jaydamalley3398 your feelings are inconsequential. What an odd label. Don't invalidate people's feelings.
Nicolle Herr She could at least offer an example of an interaction that would justify why she feels that way. Because right now it just sounds like she fragile 😅
@@RoseClimbPaintC No, I will "invalidate people's feelings", when they're unsubstantiated.
Not me. I have a friend whose friend knows someone that listens to rap.
😂
You get a pass my friend
Rap is shit. Heavy metal is superior.
I don’t have any black friends and I don’t listen to rap=racist. I have black friends and listen to rap=racist. Stupid world view. Most black and white people dont care about your personal feelings of guilt.
The next time I wonder «What was I thinking?», I will simply call prof. D’Angelo.
I'd say this woman is doing so much damage but then I read the comments and it makes me happy to see that most see this as bs
DiAngelo, the Goebbels of our time.
Who wants to see this woman spend one month living in the hood? 🙋♂️
She is like the teacher that tries to relate to the kids by saying “radical” who then was made aware of how cringe that is, and assumes no teachers can be cool and relate to kids because she’s a dork.
I'm Latino light skin and Republican: I voted twice for Obama and then Trump. I think both are Brilliant, Clear (Focused), Educated, and Powerful. Thus voting for Obama makes me "Less White" and for Trump a Resented Racist? This lady is over her head, now Coca-Cola is shoving onto employees how to be "less white".... she wrote the training.
*The fact that a book with the title "White Fragility" even **_exists in the first place_** is truly a new low.*
😂😂😂👍👍
And the fact that self-hating whites are becoming more common (and praised for their ignorance) is even lower. You can oppose racism without hating/bashing your own race.
@@finchborat those whites are extremely rare, most whites 95% actually voted for trump.
@@ROTHSTEIN01 White liberals are more common than you think. Plus, the % of whites that went for Trump wasn't that high. It was probably more like 60-70%.
@@finchborat not really, in reality most whites voted for trump, it's like they are liberal only on the streets, deep down they support right wing.
I just dont understand. How can anybody, I say anybody....no race in particular, resist arrest, flee, take a weapon forcibly from a police officer and it becomes a you or me, fight or flight situation where someone (a cop) defends themselves and be charged with murder. UNBELIEVABLE.
@@sexytown4456 The Rayshard Brooks shooting in Atlanta
I don’t believe anyone likes generalizations made about them. Wait... is saying that a generalization 🤣😱
Yep, and people won’t like it.
That doesn’t make it wrong. :)
Yeah. Racism is by definition a generalization. This lady is lost in confusion.
No, I'm black and I love when people stereotype me!! I mean make generalizations.
Jeremy Saunders 🤣
😂
"Oh wow, you're getting pretty defensive about being labeled a racist. Your white fragility is on full display"
Gaslighting is now a profession, people.
The look and stare of the interviewer even the way she moves her head priceless
In order to better understand people who come from different backgrounds than us, you have to be an active listener. Instead of being prepared to respond after every remark, listening to someone else’s point of view, helps us become better people. You stop treating people with superficial differences differently, better understand someone’s worldview, and see how you can be a better person. Instead of using the word “colorblind”, you say, “I know that this person doesn't look like me, but I don’t see any good reason as to why I should treat that person differently.” Treat everyone the way you’d want to be treated.
Treating everyone as you would like to be treated is the best and most respectful way to act with everyone. And regarding people as you would like to be regarded is the better attitude. People become triggered across the spectrum when they believe that they are being disrespected and discounted and seen as unlovable humans. Humility seems to be discouraged in individualist white Americans (and in many other countries) but being able to listen to and approach people with humility benefits everyone.
In this video, when Robin DiAngelo began to speak I was tempted to roll my eyes and navigate away from the video, but decided in that moment to rather listen 1st and judge later, and she made some profound statements.
Maybe treat everyone the way they want to be treated. What we as white people want is not going to be the same as what Black, Indigenous, Latinx and every group of people identifying as “not white cis men”. I think we ask and listen
Fiona Tanzer I think you hit onto part of the problem. Before we let the person make their point, we already judge them. Instead of being quick to judge, listen to what someone has to say. You don’t have to be friends, you don’t even have to get along, just be a better listener. Once we do that, a lot of our prejudices go out the window. Those who choose to be prejudice, tend to be worse listeners. For whatever reason, we don’t value listening, but we value our own opinions more.
Stop preaching.
Unless you already know the person is a corporate gravy train grifter collection $30,000/speech
Treat others as you would want to be treated.
the golden rule
It is so easy to say those words and not behave that way when interacting with non-whites. Very often the creed does not match the deed.
@@israelarteaga4385 It's easy to point and blame.
No, treat others the way they want to be treated. What if I do not want to be treated like you or as you?
@@bellatcup8 Darling, your entitlement is showing.
If she wants to upgrade her credibility, she should switch to phrenology
You know im mixed. Part White part southeast Asian.
Someone bought this book white fragility for my white father.
I took it from my dad after he read it and told him he ain’t a racist and not to buy into this crap they’re shoving on him
I’d love to see her have a discussion with Jordan Peterson
he would be bored to death again. he is very fast revealing fluff. the topic is "white fragility". all she actually did explain was black fragility. then she tries to take out the "the evidence white people are givin why they are not racist" to not allow anyone to not be racist. its her job to prove people are racist and she can turn them. yeaaah....
No, white people chatting to white people is what we do and tired, better discussions are Robin exploring and tuning her analysis with non-white people on public media as there is so little out there
Or Candace Owens.
sabine reynaud Lol I was thinking about her, too. Unfortunately, these post-modernists like DiAngelo consider facts, logic, reason, discourse, and debate nothing but tools used by what they see as the “oppressor” to maintain its power over the “oppressed, so they never engage in discourse. But I’d love to see Jordan and/or Candace talk about her book. It’s pretty much a Kafkatrap.
Or larry elder
White Privilege.
Something taken for granted until exposed to the other darker-skinned folks.
You must live with black folk to begin to understand their deep cultural connections, brotherhood, family values, and big-time resilience.
When I began to see what blacks went through daily, it sickened me.
I now know I am spoiled rotten with privilege that I simply do not deserve.
Love! We love ya!
Thank you for this. ❤️
Thank you for being observant and introspective James. However, I don't know that you don't deserve to live a "privileged life" as much as we All deserve to live with such privilege, therein lies the real problem.
@Miss Tunes I agree with this!
@James Fox it is not that you do not deserve the benefits, opportunity and freedom that comes with that privilege 🙂
It is that no one or one group deserves that privilege more than another group simply because of skin color.
It is ridiculous to support the idea that people should feel guilty for having white privilege. Do not waste your privilege, appreciate it, value it. And acknowledge that it IS a privilege-a rare thing that is not common to everyone else in the world. Use it for good and to help change things where you can.
The definition of privilege is: The special right, benefit, immunity or exemption enjoyed only by a person (or group) beyond the advantages of most. We all deserve those rights and benefits, then no one will be considered privileged if we all have that standard of living.
Furthermore, it is not the wish of minorities to have people with white privilege be brought down to the level of living conditions that us minorities have to face; but rather for us to be allowed up onto the same level as you. If we can all be on the same playing field then there will be no such thing as privilege based off of race.
(I encourage anyone who is asking for white people to feel or express guilt in response to white privilege to stop 🙏 That in itself is not a solution and it will not help progress these problems towards a solution).
PS: It is very encouraging to me to hear people being so self aware and genuinely taking the time to self reflect. I personally do not like to hear people feel guilty 😅
It has always felt like a private process that I don’t want to intrude on. I much prefer to hear that someone has taken the time to self reflect; because you cannot grow without self reflection, period. And if you are not open to growing then whatever conflict you are facing will always be at a standstill.
@@lexc.7991 Blaa blaa BLAA.
White priilege is NOT normal, not acceptable and NOT endurable. THAT is what this is all about. Be real, stop making excuses for white dominance over people of color. THAT is the issue here.
I am a 77 year old white woman born and bred in eastern N.C. I try very hard NOT to be racist but it is extremely hard to shed cultural views instilled since birth. The general view was that blacks were just not up to the standard of whites. I KNOW that that is not true. In general whites and blacks lead separate
lives and have little chance to become real friends. I like and often respect and admire blacks that I have had a privilege to work with or attend church with (I don't like every white person I know either). Society was integrated by law but our cultural norms keep us apart, I believe the more we get to know each other as individuals the better race relations will be.
Thanks for sharing and being honest.
"White people hold individualism real important?" Dictatorships are also against individualism.
Your defense of individualism illustrates her point.
This is the first deep breath I have taken in four years. With everything I follow why am I just lead to this wonderful person? I’ve got lots of work to do. We are imploding. It’s all so sad. ❤️
I don't think it's totally sad, I think we're learning and growing. A lot of people are going to come out on the other side better, more aware of the world around us.
You are doing the work tho! We appreciate you!
I just discovered Robin and her work a few days ago. Her insight is truly illuminating during such a turbulent time that I never before have experienced to this degree in my lifetime.
Seek therapy. This woman is an insane racist.
She lost me at “I am vegetarian” clicking off😂
She said it as a joke AT HER OWN EXPENSE. Shows how much you pay attention.
That cracked me up
Wtf I'm a vegan I think she's a moron, that has nothing to do with it
Racism, religion, politics and abortion for example are very controversial topics. I only talk with people I have known for a while and trust about something like this. Just because I do not want to talk about it with everyone does not make me fragile or ignorant.
Wow! Just wow! She's said it as it is in all its gory. I applaud her. It takes courage and deep reflection.
Obama’s presidency Gave me and my daughter Health Insurance.
Me too. I’m self employed, and without Obamacare my premiums would have completely impossible without his program. The difference of my paying $1000 a month or $160.
@Moe Snert That's probably because you had an insurance plan that was lousy. Criminally lousy. You're lucky you never got really sick, so you didn't have to discover the reason your premiums were so low.
Obama's election (twice!) gave me great hope for the future of our country. Those were good times.
@Moe Snert Sadly, corporations are netting even bigger profits under Trump through huge tax breaks, while the rest of us get table scraps. In Trumpworld, you're either rich (👍) or poor (👎). There's nothing in between.
BIDEN 2020
@ Biden has dementia.
I listened with great interest. As a 60 year old white woman from Quebec, Canada - a predominantly French speaking region - where language identity has been a source of real tension between communities - as an anglophone in a francophone world, I felt wrong for not being French speaking. This allowed me, at least to some extent, to feel pressured by the majority population and the disempowerment of anglophones (ongoing today) and to experience the feeling of being inadequate and not allowed. I remember reading graffiti, "English - go home," but I was home, so where was I to go? I feel grateful for having been given this experience because I was aware that in terms of education, skin colour and socio-economic status I was a privileged person. I grew up feeling that I had to be careful not to speak English in some contexts and some neighbourhoods, because to do so would provoke unpleasant responses from the people around me and possibly anger and violence in some situations. As well, there were real economic consequences to be an English speaker in Quebec; many employment opportunities were only for French speakers and this is even more true here today.
So, I grew up knowing that I was a member of a minority even though I have pale skin. It's not the same for me as it is for people of colour, because I can simply not speak, or work hard to improve my French (it's a difficult language to master). People of colour cannot change the colour of their skin. Yet, I do feel that I was given something infinitely precious and valuable; an opportunity to recognize myself as part of a minority group and to have to navigate that in the place where I was born and raised. We need to see ourselves as vulnerable and to recognize that this is what it means to be human. Human beings cooperate and find peace with each other when they accept their vulnerability and the need to cooperate with others for their own benefit, to forge bonds of mutual benefit and trust because otherwise no one thrives. Perhaps some of that 'white fragility' is the inability to even consider being other than dominant, always allowed, ascendent if not already on top.
The work that Ms. DiAngelo is doing is important because there is so much felt and lived experience that people with pale skin do not recognize within themselves, shaping their sense of the world and their place in it. I usually assume that I don't know, that other ways of being in the world are as good or better than the way that I was taught to be in the world. I don't know exactly what anti-racism is, but I welcome the opportunity to continue to learn as I go forward. Perhaps it is not so much learning not to be racist or fragile in our skin colour and relative privilege, but honest about what we are in the world and how we feel about being that in any case. However, I like the title 'White Fragility' because it acts as a trigger for us. We need to be pushed into self-reflection on these matters.
Yep. English people from Quebec and endemic racism against Blacks in the USA. Same thing.
At some point, you'll realize you're not a victim at all. Let me know when that sinks in.
@@zxcv2677 She knows it's not the exact same thing and did not call herself a victim.
Fabulous take Lu, fabulous. Thanks for sharing
@@aikenodubitan5256 Thank you! I'm glad to have had my words resonate for you. Peace!
@@zxcv2677 seems like you just read the first paragraph. Also seems like you don't know anything about living in Quebec.
She never tried to equate the two. She said it gave her a better understanding of what it's like to be treated like you don't belong in a place that you belong to. The issue with the "laine pur" is the reason why most English had to leave. Unless you come from a very wealthy family, there was no future and although Canada has a very strong constitution and Charter of Rights, by invoking the notwithstanding clause the province offered no protections against discrimination in the public or private sector. It's not just the language you speak, it's that you will never be a Quebecois...ever, no matter what you do. For the same reason, indigenous people are treated the same. If an English woman is murdered, the police may not investigate the crime. If an indigenous woman is murdered, they may not bother to figure out who she is. A person is much better off being from Haiti and speaking French than from Quebec and speaking English, because the Haitians are creoles the same as the Quebecois...children of France.
Robin Diangelo to her Therapist. "I think I might be racist". Therapist says "Well it is good that you have acknowledged it. We can work on that irrational fear". Robin Diangelo to Therapist. " No. I am going to make other people racist, so I can feel better about myself!". Therapist to Robin Diangelo... "Robin, that will not make you feel better". Robin Diangelo to Therapist. "I want a race war so I can make big bucks, Dollars upon Dollars, I can be a wholesome racist and move away from those ******!!! Therapist " Oh dear God ".
This book is just a huge reveal and apology of HER racism.
So you think racism is something that individuals perpetuate on other individuals?
Edwin Luciano so you believe in systemic racism?
Dea Lenihan The US judicial system is the best example.
@@edwinlucianofrias1643 SHE is narcissistic and spoiled and feel the need to apologize for her own misdeeds. Not every white person acts or feels like she does--thank goodness.
First book in a long time I want to read from just hearing from the Author.
First time I heard someone with authority regarding minority groups say "do not feel guilty for your socialisation" but do take responsibility for it.
GFY
@@surferdude800 Triggered much, white boy?
Damn, that "cool white person" persona really hit home for me. I gotta look into that & read this book
Have fun joining a cult
save your time and money and start thinking yourself.
take jsut one of her arguments.
ex: "there is unconscious bias". person responds "i m not racist".
she:"see, you are getting defensive. that shows you are racist".
That’s narcissism. It’s narcissism and being self centered that’s the issue not racism. Humble people don’t care about race and don’t judge people superficially.
Very good questions and very good answers. I think that if I were asked how I know that I am not a racist, I would answer, "I know that as a white person in this society, I am unjustly empowered - and I ask what can be done about this injustice.
What’s racism? Who’s racist? And how can you tell someone is racist? What do racist people do?
I read her book White Fragility it was good.
This woman is the worst kind of racist trying to convince all blacks that they are victims, trying to destroy their spirit and fill them with hate.
She seems really pleased with herself!
I think the worse kind of racist is the violent one. Shooting up a black church beats a lady who wrote a book any day.
Are you black?
Diving Duck Shooting up a church is worse than beating up old people. It’s positively bizarre that these things need to be explained.
Wow a white lady saying these things ... damn
Your comment is racist.
She’s Jewish.
So I'm American Indian, Italian and German. I get pretty dark in the summer. Thank god for this rich old white lady explaining me the rules.
I don't think people who are saying bad things about her did read her book.
Or other books.