Ballistol is amazing stuff. This looked like rust to me so I probably would have boiled the whole barrel to convert the rust to a black oxide that won't continue to rust and cleans out way easier, it'll also loosen fouling and melt away grease/oil, then hit with the bore brush and Ballistol. Instead of using a new bore brush for a larger caliber, save your worn out 30 cal brushes and wrap them with bronze wool or a chore boy sponge material and go with that. Way cheaper in the end and cleans as good or better than using an oversized bore brush. I can always tell if a bore is totally gone or not by whether or not the cleaning rod spins freely when cleaning. On a shot-out or rusted-out bore, it'll barely spin. I definitely figured this one was totally gone when you showed us the look down it but surprisingly it cleaned up to show strong rifling.
Big Sam, I have found that kerosene actually is great at scrubbing a bore with. It does a really good job of clearing out grime as you do here. I cleaned my M91/24 Bohler Stahl the exact same way
Thank you Big Sam!! You've answered a lot of my questions that I had through several videos on your channel. My mosin needs some minor love but not to bad. I'm at the bench doing work atm. Thank you !!
For hard core crud, I use heavy duty oven cleaner. Fill the bore, plug the muzzle and stand it up to soak for an hour. I suggest this be done outside or with serious ventilation. Afterwards, pull the plug and let it drain the excess. Pour a kettle of boiling water through it, then scrub and swab.
Welp i have a random update. I tryed out G96 g*n treatment and used it on a 1940 42 code K98. The bore is still dirty but that was partially due too not having the proper sized jags so i went with a eyelet style jag for patches. The bore is rusted abit as well but using a 338 or 375 brinze brush soaked in G96 really got alot of crud out of the barrel. It still needs to be cleaned some more along with me needing to grab some nylon brushes (my 8mm is worn out) but im happy with the results I got from just how much gunk was removed. Man i wish K98 bores weren't so filthy but thats part of surplus rifle owner journey especially with bring backs not being taken care of properly. I think G96 is now my go to cleaner over corrosion X on ugly military surplus rifle bores.
hi big Sam i love ballistal it is a great lubricant, but it is not a bore solvent, like hopps#9 or any other bore solvent in your gun cleaning kit, to dissolve the powder fowling, just try solvent patch then dry patch then again solvent patch then dry patch back and forth about 5 times until clean, you will be surprised how much more fowling you will remove. I am not a know it all, but just trying to help, i have been shooting surplus ammo for over 40 years it is dirty stuff.
Ballistol is excellent for cleaning bores after shooting corrosive ammo, that's partly what it was made for. 1:10 with water makes a milky looking mixture and works awesome for cleaning after corrosive ammo and is cheaper than Hoppes that way since so little goes a long way.
I am all about Ballistol, and have destroyed some brushes on my new to me MAS 49/56. My Carcano's I got lucky on, just old Cos Moline that did it's job.
Thank you for the advice of cleaning it while it is hot. I know mine is safe to shoot, just not happy looking down the bore. Did not want to shoot it out but think that might be the key. Did not think to take my cleaning kit with me like that. Great idea!
When I clean my C&R rifles I use the copper wool(will not scratch) and some vinegar. It breaks down so much of this stuff. Then patchwork followed with lubricant.Of course the fastest way is to clean them with NUTHER, as in a NUTHER bullet!!
Good thoughts Sam (& good ideas from some commenters here also). As another commenter correctly noted, you need to use Hoppes #9 with patches to get out those corrosive salts from the primers.
With rust pitting like that, the only way you'll have a chance of stopping further deterioration is boiling it. It'll still be pitted, but at least it won't get worse.
Personally I soak my rod in corrosion X and run my brush, then soak it again and run it again, then switch to a jag and hoppes no9 soaked patch works okay but there so many powder solvents that theres no limit.
If a time machine ever became available... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE! Someone whisper in the ears of the people updating the Mosin Nagant to the 91/30 to include stainless steel and chrome lined barrels.
I recently picked up a 91/30 at a gun show and the bore wasn't nearly as bad as this one but there was definitely some crud in there. I used a cleaning rod and brass brush on a drill and ran it up and down the bore with solvent. My patches come out clean for the most part but if i run the brush over and over it still will produce a dirty patch. I'm not sure if these old guns will be ever be 100% clean.
Maybe a dumb question.. but would it be safe or recommended to secure the cleaning rod with the copper wire tip to a drill and run it through while it spins in the barrel?
You could at a low speed. If you crank it, it will more than likely start to gouge your rifling. I have found that nylon brushes work way better since they're more forgiving and don't deform near as easily as copper
@@BigSamMosinMuseumI wouldn’t worry about a steel rod harming the crown or barrel. The larger diameter brush and/or patched jag will keep the rod centered.
Ballistol is amazing stuff. This looked like rust to me so I probably would have boiled the whole barrel to convert the rust to a black oxide that won't continue to rust and cleans out way easier, it'll also loosen fouling and melt away grease/oil, then hit with the bore brush and Ballistol.
Instead of using a new bore brush for a larger caliber, save your worn out 30 cal brushes and wrap them with bronze wool or a chore boy sponge material and go with that. Way cheaper in the end and cleans as good or better than using an oversized bore brush.
I can always tell if a bore is totally gone or not by whether or not the cleaning rod spins freely when cleaning. On a shot-out or rusted-out bore, it'll barely spin. I definitely figured this one was totally gone when you showed us the look down it but surprisingly it cleaned up to show strong rifling.
Big Sam,
I have found that kerosene actually is great at scrubbing a bore with. It does a really good job of clearing out grime as you do here. I cleaned my M91/24 Bohler Stahl the exact same way
Thank you Big Sam!! You've answered a lot of my questions that I had through several videos on your channel. My mosin needs some minor love but not to bad. I'm at the bench doing work atm. Thank you !!
For hard core crud, I use heavy duty oven cleaner. Fill the bore, plug the muzzle and stand it up to soak for an hour. I suggest this be done outside or with serious ventilation. Afterwards, pull the plug and let it drain the excess. Pour a kettle of boiling water through it, then scrub and swab.
Welp i have a random update. I tryed out G96 g*n treatment and used it on a 1940 42 code K98. The bore is still dirty but that was partially due too not having the proper sized jags so i went with a eyelet style jag for patches.
The bore is rusted abit as well but using a 338 or 375 brinze brush soaked in G96 really got alot of crud out of the barrel. It still needs to be cleaned some more along with me needing to grab some nylon brushes (my 8mm is worn out) but im happy with the results I got from just how much gunk was removed. Man i wish K98 bores weren't so filthy but thats part of surplus rifle owner journey especially with bring backs not being taken care of properly. I think G96 is now my go to cleaner over corrosion X on ugly military surplus rifle bores.
Wrap your brush with 3-000 steel wool and keep adding as you progress. It will help clean the copper out as well as polish the bore.
hi big Sam i love ballistal it is a great lubricant, but it is not a bore solvent, like hopps#9 or any other bore solvent in your gun cleaning kit, to dissolve the powder fowling, just try solvent patch then dry patch then again solvent patch then dry patch back and forth about 5 times until clean, you will be surprised how much more fowling you will remove. I am not a know it all, but just trying to help, i have been shooting surplus ammo for over 40 years it is dirty stuff.
Ballistol is excellent for cleaning bores after shooting corrosive ammo, that's partly what it was made for. 1:10 with water makes a milky looking mixture and works awesome for cleaning after corrosive ammo and is cheaper than Hoppes that way since so little goes a long way.
Yes! Let's see Big Sam shoot black powder out of a Mosin!
I am all about Ballistol, and have destroyed some brushes on my new to me MAS 49/56. My Carcano's I got lucky on, just old Cos Moline that did it's job.
Thank you for the advice of cleaning it while it is hot. I know mine is safe to shoot, just not happy looking down the bore. Did not want to shoot it out but think that might be the key. Did not think to take my cleaning kit with me like that. Great idea!
When I clean my C&R rifles I use the copper wool(will not scratch) and some vinegar. It breaks down so much of this stuff. Then patchwork followed with lubricant.Of course the fastest way is to clean them with NUTHER, as in a NUTHER bullet!!
Try a Teslong endoscope. Works even in a .22 cal bore. :)
Good thoughts Sam (& good ideas from some commenters here also). As another commenter correctly noted, you need to use Hoppes #9 with patches to get out those corrosive salts from the primers.
Ballistol is excellent for post-corrosive ammo, especially if you mix it 1:10 with water. Plain old water works, too.
With rust pitting like that, the only way you'll have a chance of stopping further deterioration is boiling it. It'll still be pitted, but at least it won't get worse.
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Yes!! I’d deff like to see a black powder shooting video 👍🏽
Personally I soak my rod in corrosion X and run my brush, then soak it again and run it again, then switch to a jag and hoppes no9 soaked patch works okay but there so many powder solvents that theres no limit.
If a time machine ever became available...
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE! Someone whisper in the ears of the people updating the Mosin Nagant to the 91/30 to include stainless steel and chrome lined barrels.
I recently picked up a 91/30 at a gun show and the bore wasn't nearly as bad as this one but there was definitely some crud in there. I used a cleaning rod and brass brush on a drill and ran it up and down the bore with solvent. My patches come out clean for the most part but if i run the brush over and over it still will produce a dirty patch. I'm not sure if these old guns will be ever be 100% clean.
Another nice video ,Thanks Big Sam.
Butches bore shine is my favorite bore cleaner. Hoppes number 9 is a joke compared to butches.
I have a mosin that is rough. Still shoots ok but man is it rough.
Man I appreciate it I have one that needs all the help I can get
Lol me too
Thank you for all the videos, it is extremely informative! Question, Do you shim your Mosin action?
Great job buddy!
Whoever pulled that M24 apart needs sent straight to the gulag.
Teslong bore scope, for the money you will be amazed.
Interesting, the Austrian Company Böhler did made Barrels for the Russian?
Good borescopes are easy to find even for . 22 bores. Surely you know this
I fist clean the heavy stuff then use Sweet 7.62 bore cleaner then hopps cleaner,
Bore brush going both ways is safe? I heard it can ruin the crown. I do it myself all the time, but aint it bad?
Maybe a dumb question.. but would it be safe or recommended to secure the cleaning rod with the copper wire tip to a drill and run it through while it spins in the barrel?
You could at a low speed. If you crank it, it will more than likely start to gouge your rifling.
I have found that nylon brushes work way better since they're more forgiving and don't deform near as easily as copper
What model of bench vise is that?
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I thought pulling a brush both ways was bad for the crown. Is that true?
Potentially, if you use a steel rod and brush. It is not a concern if you use a bronze brush and a carbon fiber cleaning rod, as shown in this video
@@BigSamMosinMuseum Oh no kidding? Well that's nice to know. thanks! Now I'm off to go clean my Mosin then.
I used a 40 cal nylon brush it worked well to clean between the lands.
@@BigSamMosinMuseumI wouldn’t worry about a steel rod harming the crown or barrel. The larger diameter brush and/or patched jag will keep the rod centered.
Sick gains. How much you lift bro
What is he talking about tuberculosis
he's comparing the gunk and grime he got out of the barrel to tuberculosis
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Stop saying fangers...it makes me sad😢
You are talking too much fr a simple cleaning 😂
The gals like a clean barrel.