William Burroughs cut ups
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- Опубліковано 23 гру 2006
- a scene from a William Burroughs documentary which deals with his time in London and the cut up method. For more on this see syntheticknowledge.blogspot.co...
The Burroughs doco (1983) was directed by Howard Brookner and the full version is available here.
www.ubu.com/film/burroughs_mov...
see also the IMDB listing
www.imdb.com/title/tt0087012/f...
incidentally the sound recording on the programme was none other than Jim Jarmusch - Фільми й анімація
I used to do a method simialr to WB cut up method that I think worked better. I would go to a place where there was many people talking and I would sit down and without paying attention to any one conversation I would just start writing whatever words or parts of sentences I would hear then move to another location and continue to do this till I have a note book full of words then I would go home and read them set them in sentences and paragraph and stories would just come out it was amazing
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This video has changed my life.
The quotes were taken from recording done by Burroughs and Byron Gysin starting in the 1950s and released on an LP called 'Nothing here but the recordings' in the UK by Rough Trade in 1981. You can read the transcript by googling the title (you tube won't let me post the url!!)
some of the best poetry of the 20th century.
i came across burroughs videos randomly on here tonight, while sitting at my desk and working on a cut-up letter to send back to the friend who sent me the original letter! Love it.
I love his voice.
"the heavy metal gimmick..."
This still holds up.
What an unmistakable voice!
That was beautiful
The street he turns at 3:46 is where Orange Street meets Charing Cross Road. The building on the right is the National Portrait Gallery.
the middle peice just awesome
I miss him.
Nice footage. The English interviewer is John Walters (John Peel's producer) by the way...
I too follow this practice.
interesting writing processes
@drumlord420 Cheers back at ya and good luck in all you put your hands to.....
Really awesome, at least up to 3:15, where it stops on my machine at least!! BTW, when Burroughs is looking out of the window early on, he looks down on the back yard where The Indica Art Gallery was situated. A soon-to-be dork called John met a golddigger-acting-like-an-"artiste" called Yoko there in '66. Such is life.
@sergiost The dadaist poetry by tristan tzara and others was a different method of random- the first meeting and presentation by tristran was drawing individual words out of a hat.. The fact that Burroughs looks for these lines of poetry from prose he typed. makes it a totally different experience. And Concrete poetry is more a visual presentation of poetry if not just a collage of texts and not necessarily poetry or prose....so that is still different.
@sergiost The dadaist poetry by tristan tzara and others was a different method of random- the first meeting and presentation by tristan was drawing individual words out of a hat.. The fact that Burroughs looks for these lines of poetry from prose he typed. makes it a totally different experience. And Concrete poetry is more a visual presentation of poetry if not just a collage of texts and not necessarily poetry or prose....so that is still different.
wow that spoken word in the middle about something something rockerfeller.... he fucking knew what was really going on in the world! holy shit.
a bunch of mean old people.
@sergiost The dadaist poetry by tristan tzara and others was a different method of random- the first meeting and presentation by tristran was drawing individual words out of a hat.. The fact that Burroughs looks for these lines of poetry from prose he typed. makes it a totally different experience. And Concrete poetry is more a visual presentation of poetry if not just a collage of texts and not necessartily poetry or prose....so that is still different.
@sergiost The dadaist poetry by tristan tzara and others was a different method of random- the first meeting and presentation by tristran was drawing individual words out of a hat.. The fact that Burroughs looks for these lines of poetry from prose he typed. makes it a totally different experience. And Concrete poetry is more a visual presentation of poetry if not just a collage of texts and not necessartily poetry or prose....so that iststill different.
It's not just the combination of words, but his voice that makes this click... that bizarrely rough and monotone voice that makes everything sound possible... It's as if he were a doctor and he were reading medical reports: it sounds like he is correct in all he says - whether or not he is in the least bit logical!
@skawashers He's pretty much said as much. He talks about Tristan Tzara in his Cut Up essay.
That's how I want to do film editing.
Looks like we've been visit'd by one of our feather'd friends: crap on the window. Some friends! ("Are you a crap?" I asked the cop. An armed go-between with medical benefits he was.)
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@rodmunday I have a copy of the original. This video only uses about 25% of the original. The cut up of the 1920's writers, Apollainaire, Jarry, Daumal etc was very different to Burroughs, Ginsberg, Synder etc.
"It was an accident" He was drunk and intoxicated, shooting a gun in room with friends at a bottle that was placed on his wife's head. If this was an accident than jail is full with innocent people.
Damn, I never realized before that Burroughs was actually a Dalek!
I'm now translate port of saints japanese language edition. take care your health.
Yes it was done in the 20's but no one had done it with anything on such a scale as he did.. poems and small pieces of literature.. nothing like a novel had been done
What? That he was a genius and a prolific author and a cultural icon? That he was successful in these endeavors as well as being well educated? I guess I wouldn't mind saying that these were my accomplishments.
@skawashers agree is a well none method, even used in france, oulipo movement.
Burroughs may been many things but never simplistic. He knew his audience needed an explanation they could follow.
@sergiost Dadaist approach was different the first being randomly drawn words from a hat. Words taken from newspaper. And concrete poetry a visual poetry often not being poetic at all ,but being about the visual arrangement of texts or characters.
word is bond
I think it's that symbol of the two snakes coiled up eating each other's tails.
@drumlord420 Good lucky with it....I would also study people and record interesting or wierd quirky things about them that I either admired or hated about them and would put these characteristics about them together to form a personality. Then after I had say 8-12 characters I would build a story around the characters. I ended up with dozens of characters that I would pull out to write different stories with.....Good luck
2:40 - The jesus and mary chain use this passage in one of their songs :)
i dont really understand the cut up method. what did he use it for ?? can anyone help me out??
@sergiost Dadaist approach was different the first being randomly drawn words from a hat. Words taken from newspaper. And concrete poetry a visaul poetry often not being poetiuc at all ,but being abotu the visual arrangemtn of texts or characters.
Yeah that's cool....my own childhood was abysmal but the way I dealt with that was to not have kids of my own, ever. It would have been EASIER for me to make bad decisions and blame it on my childhood than even Burroughs, Jr. if that puts anything into perspective of what mine was like. But it made me choose another weird path which is to say that I'm never having children myself. Good for you that you can be that to your own kids. Kids do need that.
What did Geddy Lee have to do with Viet Nam?
he used it to alter language and thinking. The soft machine has some of that in it, as does other novels
You are probably right about his son. He did try to emulate Burroughs, Sr. and thier relationship was strained. I'm just saying to not blame him for this because life is about choices. William S. Burroughs, Jr. decided to drink himself to death. That was HIS choice. He also was a good writer. In that respect, he has his father to thank in a weird way. He chose to emulate his father in both positive and negative ways but this was his undoing.
free spirit they didn't think how money they will do
cut ups = an out of ideas day
@bornwithoutwarning WELL i just say we have to give some credit to this guy, besides we dont have the right to jugde.
it's actually one snake swallowing its own tail
Why did you get two thumbs down for asking this?
By the way, his son was also a great author. How many kids with worse childhoods do absolutely nothing with their lives? Why blame Burroughs himself for his sons' poor life choices? I never had a father and I didn't drink myself into oblivion. Burroughs, Jr. had a relationship with Burroughs, Sr. at least. I didn't even have that option myself. I turned out fine.
burroughs himself mentions, in this video, how this came from painters here: @ 1:56
@skawashers
burroughs & gysin have both acknowledged Dadaist and Surrealist practices that share in the genesis. they are well aware that their thoughts as well as experiments have not existed in a vacuum. Tristin Tzara's poetry is cited by the both ov them often in interviews and their own texts.
its application, perceived effects and technique is not the same, however.
@bornwithoutwarning so?
Due to the fact that such "coherence" in society could be destroyed is evidence of its flaws. It is no objective system, thus.
HELP! does anyone know where William S. Burroughs said this, i quote: "The rulers of this most insecure of all worlds are rulers by accident - inept, frightened pilots at the controls of a vast machine they cannot understand - calling in 'experts' to tell them which buttons to push."????????????????? LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU! thanks in advance!
@skawashers doesn't the entire notion of the cut-up subvert typical conceptions of authorship? its kind of ironic to play chicken or egg in this context.
What is a cut up? Is it a random form of editing?
or rather the times are way behind his way of thinking. So that's relatively the same thing. But when will the times ever be in tune with such a complex thinker? That's not going to happen. We'll just get fragments of reality held here and there by different groups of people still conditioned to cherish their narrow realities to the exclusion of all else, to the extent of smothering those realities that lie outside their own parameters of what's real. Cut-up seems like a quirk now, unless ...???
none of these videos have enough views
@skawashers He actually admits this in the interview :). Him and Brion never lied about it, they were aware of the dadaist movement.
Mr. William S. Burroughs: Harvard graduate, one of the most prolific authors of the 20th century, cultural icon, genius, etc. Who the fuck are you?
If he had just kept on writing in the style of Junkie and Queer, with its dry humour and astute observations, instead of trying to be more bohème than the other beat writers.
Then, what?
it's 'you're'...
Google The-CutUp-Method-of-Brion-Gysin
what?
He is my wife
@rodmunday @skawashers it's not surrealism, it's dadaism. it was in fact widely used in poetry (aka concrete poetry). but he did it for prose, which is interesting.
@wwgt nothing is great about a gay heroin addict - but writing naked lunch was a pretty great achievment
What documentary is this from?
It's from a 1983 documentary by Howard Brookner, part of the Arena arts strand for the BBC. Incedentally, Jim Jarmusch was the sound recordist. The documentary is now part of the Criterion collection www.criterion.com/films/28657-burroughs-the-movie
@@rodmunday awesome, thanks a lot man!
Interesting claims, do you have any evidence to support them?
yeah, that's probably the worst thing he did right there, but who are we to judge?
Uroboros. myroncope is right.
@skawashers "COPPIEST"???
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@BuggedSatelite yes I used to read WB when I was a teenager. As a teenager I found his writing interesting but only becuase it was shocking and rebelious, after all what is being a teenager all about, as I grew up I found them very insipid and ephemeral....WB was at his best subversive and at his worst pedestrianly pornographic. WB was simply a midwestern oddball kook who suffered from lack of Daddys love....and we all know thats rare...LOL
@ilupir77
I guess that shows you the experience that homosexuals have to go through life "forced" to appreciate straight sexual scenes in most other literature. give the book another chance it's great!
when u got money coming in,time to get over hangovers and cold turkey,it's cool.the rest of us have to go to work bleeding our eyes out.otherwise we would all be like William.
@90eyehategod To me W.B. was a great genius, i dont care if he fucked a cow or whatever, he was a guy with strong opinions and he stand for it. I think is irrelevant to speak about his sexual preferences.
sixty years spent chasing the crap of a sad old man
messing up, or just exposing society's incoherence and inconsistencies?
like i said, he stole this technique from miley cyrus.
Yes I agree, I just watched the documentary about this dude, and
all the gayness and whatnot , well , he seemed to be a bit creepy ,
and I dont quite get his " genius" , . Most of the commentary was by a bunch of gay dudes, not to mention being a heroin addict ?
whats so great about a gay heroin addict?
lmao...he was super bi sexual...well known fact
I became fascinated with Burroughs' novel "junkie". Tried to read parts of "naked lunch" but found it too homosexual, being straight myself. I keep on returning to the copy of "junkie" which I own. Never considered taking up a serious habit though. Never even tried "junk". Alcohol and sedative pills are more my thing.
This man shot his wife in the head for a laugh. Do any of you feminists care about this?
This man shot his wife in the head for a laugh. Do any of you feminists care about this?