I thought they was going to do a ghost ship.. with the tension line.. But geez cheese.. it spaghettified the entire ship... That was both awesome but terrifying
It was really well done, but it's child's play compared to scenes that are coming the next two seasons. I don't think people are prepared for how wild this story gets.
Thank you! This is exactly the kind of video explainer I've been looking for. One that isn't afraid of book spoilers and explains how the filmmakers mixed the plot and characters of all three books together. Excellent summary!
As always you do a relentlessly amazing job. I could not bring myself to finish the book series because it was way too complicated and over my hand. You do an amazing job explaining that. Thank you for all your hard work. Much appreciated.
I love this series! I read the books years ago when I was a teen and some things weren’t clear, I appreciate the in depth reviews like this one because you do go into detail and it sparks something inside of me like wanting to read these types of books again.
Quinn is the man. He's the one who turned me on to the remembrance of Earth's past trilogy to begin with. And that series changed the way I think about space and aliens and the Fermi paradox. The Netflix show is all right. I'm glad a lot of people get to experience the series.
Quinn got me into the books. I love his takes on alot of stories like hyperion and especially the Shrike. Didn't know about any of those until I saw Quinn's videos.
The least realistic thing in the show is the idea that a sophon supercomputer could predict a clear night sky in England so we would see the stars blink that night
Wildly detailed breakdown of this!! .... also - does anyone ever talk about the dehydration/rehydration idea being related to tardigrades (because those adorable creatures can survive in a dehydrated state - within reason - and then rehydrate swimmingly.....)
I think Netflix did a good job with capturing the key elements of the books, giving us multiple plot threads, wrapping up some of those threads while leaving a little bit of bread crumbs for hope of another season. Today's era of streaming is still a gamble if a show can ever be a cultural icon.
You've no idea. The Netflix version just doesnt make sense for the story. If sophon is that powerful, can hack and erase/edit image of CCTV; can hack all the screen in the world; just destroy all the computers (or the display) on the world, why bother disturb the particle collider results?
@@stefenleung my guess as a non novel reader, would be to slow down Humanity's understanding of multi dimensional physics, quantum entanglement, and operation of small particles. The Aliens have a grasp of unfolding a photon to planet size, then collapse it down. Humans can catch up very quickly given our logarithmic technology scaling. Given 400 years, we could make our own sophons. While the aliens are in a dehydrated hibernation state of travel, they fear humanity will catch up to their level when they arrive in 400 years.
It’s a much better adaptation than I was expecting. It works very well. Some of the character stuff has actually been improved imo. There are things from the book that are going to be impossible for the Netflix series to do, but I think they did a great job.
This review is insanely well done. All the other reviewers can eat your dust on this one. This channel and the vile eye are miles above anyone else in the movie/series/characters genre ! Major props for fitting the Netflix show the Chinese version and the books, so seamlessly together and the visual conceptions of all we have yet to see on the show. Loved your take on the 3 body problem and other reviewers should take note. This is how you do an enjoyable review. 💯
Niyat is da bomb when it comes to reviews, he goes that extra mile to ensure he gets the full story and any back story available for context. I’ve been watching him for years now and am in awe of his talent in making his videos interesting and the content understandable for any layperson to grasp without being boring. He deserves a main stream job and I don’t know why they haven’t snaffled him up yet!
This show did a grwat job showing how mundane events and subtle human interactions are context dependent. A simple fish swimming in a bowl or conversation on a beach or park bench becomes epic under the new circumstances. Love it.
This show scared the crap out of me, it’s the most realistic take to an alien invasion I’ve ever witnessed. Literally made me wonder if we should be so curious…
Too late, we already sent a shit ton, its been around 50 or so years since then, so its doubtful we're gonna receive any news about our destruction. 50 yrs a very short time btw. Humanity destroying themselves up would be much milder than an alien attack.
The most logical thing for a lifeform to achieve is the guarantee of survival by any means, this seems to me at least the essence of true immortality when the enemy is time
Most realistic take on an alien invasion is them lobbing bolides at the Earth from the safe standoff distance of our own asteroid belt, reducing our civilization into rubble so they can come and mop up the remnants with ease.
@@nextowayneb7319 Well, half of the things you're watching in this video are scifi things, not to mention that we currently have (admittedly very limited) terraforming capabilities ourselves as a species. Talking about the "nuking the Poles of our moon to bring back the water" idea.
Only 7 mins in, but reminds me of a game called Terra Invicta. Game has multiple factions with different goals, one of them, "the servants" aim to give the world over to the aliens, which sounds like these weirdos.
They're also, by far, the easiest to play and win as. You'd think it'd be hard, with all the other factions thinking it'd be wise to sweep you from the board.
@@iona2225 yeah, when the aliens just give you bits of a country for free, followed by tech its beyond easy mode. Basically just a tutorial to learn game mechanics.
There’s actually a TBP mod for the game called Trisolaran Crisis. The factions are renamed and reskinned and there’s a massive alien fleet far out in the system
Great breakdown, having been obsessed with these books for years I can say that the show is perfectly fine at what it does. There is a lot of unecessary scenes and dialogue in the books that I am glad they decided to change or omit all together. It's during the second and third book that the story really unfolds, that is where the real test for the creators will be.
The reason they had multiple plots converge and added characters is because the books ARE NOT character driven like AT ALL. No one is going to watch that kind of tv. What they did made it watchable for the masses and it worked very well.
Your work is always outstanding, but this one was really above and beyond. I tried the first book long ago but could not follow it. I finished the Netflix series, but felt frustrated with the feeling that I was not getting something important. This video solved that problem. Now, I want to read the trilogy, and hope for more NF seasons. Many thanks.
Books are very confusing. TV shows cut to the chase of the story focusing on a few key characters and the visuals really help. Netflix obviously spent decent money on this show as this kinda abstract sci-fi material is hard to adapt into a show.
We do get an 'idea' how the San-Ti (trisolarans) look from the third book. They're tiny not human sized - brain boy sees the inside of a ship, and the pods that contain them are like matchboxes. Makes sense when you think they are able to dehydrate. The bugs comment seems like a projection too.
No, that was from the officially published semi-Cannon fanfic. While they could be bug sized, they aren’t the creatures from Redemption of Time because listeners' message would not have been possible in a hive mind where the seperate bugs are hardly intelligent. They constantly shared their thoughts, but each trisolaran was their own individual.
*SPOILERS* The reason why san- ti doesn't know about about lying or the concept of deception is because their head is translucent and emits colors when they are thinking so every san- ti have their thoughts shown on their head
@@carontorliak2760 its even cuter once you realize that they are literal bugs. But this and the comment you replying to are not actually canon, but derived through guesswork by a published fan fiction.
There is a hole in the plot though. The pacifist san-ti that contacts Ye Wenjie advising her of not replying back. How this pacifist would hide what he/her have done?
Old comment but I get it - humans are pretty awful, not as individuals but as a whole. Rampant corruption and slavery of all kinds, it seems most people in the 1% are willing to damage and destroy the planet for their own financial benefit.
This is a great series! The scene in which Evans poorly explained, to the aliens, the aspects of a fictional story (Little Red Riding Hood) and made the aliens fear human lies, and perceive humans as a non-trustworthy species, shows how dangerous it would be to have a one (or few) individuals speaking with an alien race on behalf of humanity as a total. These aspects of the series, that make us think, is one of the main things that catch my interest. Evans did not take seriously his role and the fact that he was representing his entire species. He was informal, insensitive, lazy, delusional, morally and intellectually unprepared. Note: I am very curious about the young human assassin (can't remember her name). How are her actions coordinated with the aliens (to erase videos, etc) and how is she so strong and resilient? There seems to be much more to be uncovered (still watching). Exciting!
The assassin is able to do the killings due to Trisolaran interference of electronics. Seamlessly scrubbing her from camera footage. Idk how they remove DNA evidence like hair though.
Maybe through the “4 dimensional particle” that this video posits allowed a Middle Ages assassin to take organs out of high secured people. It’s somewhere in the video, didn’t understand it but it’s in there.
You got it wrong. We Lie or Not, It does not matter. We are just bugs to Trisolarians. It's like saying "that guy smell bad", has nothing to do with that guy's smell.
The only thing that REALLY doesnt make any sense at all, both in the book and in the series...is scientists killing themselves because "science does not work anymore" Seriously...that would be the most fascinating thing to ever happen to them.
Not if, science is your belief system as strong as say a religious belief, your whole life's work and understanding equalling nought isn't as exciting as you think, for some it would be inescapable.
This is one of the advantages of the series; which puts into question whether or not that the scientists truly killed themselves or were assasinations by the ETO. Moreover, it also shows that it's not really the results of broken science breaking them, but rather the Sophons themselves.
I think this is a common misconception that isn't made very clear in either medium. Yes, some scientists probably killed themsleves upon learning that "physics doesn't exist," but I'm sure most of them died because the sophons caused them severe psychological distress or made them go insane.
@@Adminium21 it is a theory, actually. Cixin Liu never described the Trisolarans' appearance in any of the books he wrote. Any speculation outside of the three books he wrote is just that- speculation
@@krokenlochen when did he give it his blessing? As far as I can tell, his feelings towards it is he has accepted that it exists. The publisher didn't give him much choice in publishing it. That, along with the fact that it retcons nearly every major event of the trilogy, means it has very little credibility as part of the series.
I watched the Chinese version on the high seas. I can't get into the Books. I own them but I just can't enjoy them. It has everything I should enjoy but I can't do the books. I have seen over 12 hours of explanation on “Quins” channel. This is a different take and really well done. Thank you 💯🇬🇧❤️
I bought the book on Audible. Quin recommended it to me. It's too slow and basically a sad take on human nature-greed, death, and ultimately destruction. I prefer a universe that has hope and fear, good and bad, like "The Lord of the Rings" or the “Culture” series by Ian Banks. The Culture novels are what I enjoy. There are so many books, I won't read them all. It's okay for me to not enjoy this series. It's fortunate that "The Lord of the Rings" films are great, but the novels contain so much extra detail. "Harry Potter" is along the same lines, to a lesser degree. I love the "Ender's Game" series, to be honest. The first book is my favorite. Maybe one day I’ll be in the right frame of mind, and I’ll be able to deal with all of the existential dread I get from the implications of this book. I have not seen the Netflix series. Maybe that will be my route in, like the "The Lord of the Rings" films were for me reading the books. "The Lord of the Rings" to me is nearly perfect. If we all liked the same things, life would be boring. I don’t know where in the world you live, but in the UK we have a comedian called David Mitchell. He’s just done a history book that’s about 13 hours long on Audible called “Unruly”. I like history, but I don’t like being told that a book or a film is good over and over again. I tend to avoid it out of spite, I suppose. This time, however, someone I trust deeply suggested that I read "Unruly", and I didn’t regret spending a credit on it at all. It’s a very funny book, and if you like history or the English history of Kings and Queens, it’s a book that will make you laugh out loud more than once. There is some swearing in it, so I wouldn’t recommend it for anyone under the age of 15 or 16. Thank you for your advice. I might even try and listen to "The Three-Body Problem" when summer kicks in. 🇬🇧💯❤️🫡
i just find it hard to believe that a civilization as advanced as trisolarians haven't looked at their neighboring star and its planets a long time ago. Even Webb today has the ability to find biosignature from the light omitting off of a planet 50 LY away
I would say it's likely due to the instability of their world. They are a spacefaring race but their civilization is constantly being put into a dehydrated state for indefinite periods of time. It seems like their colony fleet could have been launched during the common era and it just so happens Earth sent its idiotic hello around the same time.
Yeah, they wouldn’t have even needed a signal from Dr. Ye. They would have found the Sun and its planets and packed up long ago and everyone would be speaking Trisolaran in the 1800s.
That's the hard to believe part? Not the dual vector foil thrown our way casually by the equivalent of Steve from accounting, humans creating pocket dimensions etc
@@mr.m2659 Im pointing out the inconsistency of the plot for the supposedly advanced lifeform. I'm not drawing parallels with the real world, It's fiction, I get it, the ridiculous part is the advanced aliens overlooking a planet nearby.
I enjoy the first season but my biggest complaint with not only Netflix but all streaming services, is the lack of episodes. This could've easily had 20 episodes and pushed the story, plus character development further along.
If you want 20+ episodes, I recommend the Chinese version of the show. It was a bit too slow for me, I preferred the speed that the netflix version went with, but you might like the pacing.
Killing the pacing, and costing more to produce focusing on the least developed aspects from the books might i add the least interesting would have lead to the cancellation of the series
@@canisgraffias199it's on UA-cam in 4k. Watching it now. Look up MIGu official channel. All 30 episodes with subtitles. I'm on episode 5. It is slow paced, but if you're already invested in the premise, it's enjoyable.
@@wooloosus6866 You're kidding there's a Chinese version? I don't want to be critical but I've always found Chinese movies and TV shows suck big time. They don't have big budgets, CGI poor, script and acting sub par and padded with lots of fillers. So is the Chinese version any good?
I'm reading a novel right now called 'The sparrow'. It's in a planet named Rakhat. It is also a 3 body system. In fact it's same alpha centuari 3 body system that the Santi live on. This occurs again and again in science fiction. The reason, is that our closet star system is 4 light years away, and it is the 3 body Alpha centauri system. Pretty sure it has a yellow sun, an orange sun, and a red sun. This is why many of our 'closest neighbour' stories come from a 3 body system. It does exist.
If humans had a large space fleet, then by implication they could have done scientific research on the fleet ships themselves, bypassing the Sophon block. Similarly, if the Trisolarans had the resources to create a computer the size of a world, then by implication they could have created artificial habitats with solar sails at a further distance from their 3 stars, bypassing the 3 body problem without having to invade anyone. There are lots of cool ideas in the series, but like a lot of sci-fi, you have to not think too much about it. But for fun, some ways Earth could have fought the Trisolarans without prior information of their true abilities: - send fleets of ram scoops towards the invading fleet, sucking up the space hydrogen as they go, thereby depriving the invading fleet of their needed fuel. No new physics needed, its entirely an engineering problem. - research biological computers on space craft, eventually manufacturing such on space craft as well. These could then slowly replace conventional computers on Earth, with biological AIs that the sophons cannot apparently read. - develop robotics to automatically mass manufacture particle accelerators elsewhere in the solar system. The Trisolarans admitted they used all of their resources to build just 2 pairs of sophons after all.
This implies that the Tri-Solarans use hydrogen for fuel as opposed to having a mass fuel source stored on the ships and using fusion or another technology we’ve not yet discovered for propulsion. Biological computers could still be read and disturbed by a sophon, they would still function off of electrochemical signals and the sophon is a lightspeed sentient computer. Particle accelerators take billions and the robotics advanced enough to do that wont be available for another 1000 years to be generous.
1-how many resources would they need to build those habitats, also, if you aren’t aware of Dark forest theory I can’t continue on this because spoilers, but it makes this option not viable 2-Where is humanity going to get the industry for those ram scoops? Don’t forget Sophons are interfering. 3-The Sophons will stop this. 4-Humanity will not be able to build Sophons for as long as the San-ti Sophons are present
@@requiemlul3140 - Hi there. Just to continue the fun :-) I understand the DF theory, so no worries there. But I don't think it is applicable here, as the fleet in open space would be far more easily detected. An individual habitat would be too small to detect unless they intentionally made them very large. Regarding where the aliens would get the resources, the resources they have spent on the fleet and Sophons is presumably greater. (quick note regarding 4 - it never occurred to me that humanity would build their own Sophons, which seem to be at the limits of the aliens abilities, I was thinking more along the lines of advanced expert systems, like what we have now, but more sophisticated and biologically encoded). Regarding 2 - The abilities of the Sophons seem inconsistent, but if they can't stop the building of humanities space fleet then how could they stop this? The industry you mention would have to be built up, but it would still be minor compared to what humanity ends up doing in any case. Regarding 3 - The Sophons are bound by the light speed limit. We need to keep in mind how large the solar system is. If, say, 6 research vessels are several light hours away but in different directions (imagine a large imaginary cube shape around the Earth with a research vessel at the center of each face), then the Sophons have to make a choice of whether to interfere with collider and other science experiments on Earth, or to go after the research vessels, which they can only harass one at a time, and it would take the better part of a day to go after all 6. Regards.
I don't think trisolarans are implied to be similar in stature to humans. It's ultimately left vague, but the birthing pod scene in Death's End + the use of desiccation as a survival mechanism strongly implies they're smaller than us, and might ironically enough look a lot like 'bugs' to our eyes
Hello, I love your breakdowns as always. Glad your doing a breakdown of the show of one of my favorite book series. In the future, could you do a breakdown of Apple tv's Constellation show?
As a long-time sci-fi buff (and someone who is smarter than the average bear) I sadly found the ending of the final book way over my head. It went from being exciting and clever to just confusing. Thanks for giving me the ending I didn't have the patience to find in the books!
Cool concept but my whole issue is how can a civilization with super advanced science and knowledge get whipped out every few thousand years and still remember that science and knowledge.
They don’t remember it when they get wiped out they have to start over again. That’s Why Sophon was asking how long do you think it took us to evolve to the technological stage were at now and the Asian girl says a lot longer then us since they kept having to start over.
Problems: trisolarans are small like ants compeared to humans ,their size is around a grain of rice and they can live up to hundreds of years with the eldest around 800ish. Also it isn't just that they can't lie, the very concept of deception is hard for them to comprehand, that's why many human characters use sectret misgueding commonications among theme-selfes that they can decipher,but the lisening aliens can't and that's what they needed the reconstracted human from the brain they chached from the failed space probe mission, that was the way they could learn humanlike deception.
It's never been canon. The author did acknowledge the spinoff book, but they've never said that it was canon. That's like me saying George Lucas knows about Star Wars Legends, so it must be canon. Also, could you maybe learn some grammar and how to spell? That was the hardest thing I've ever attempted to read. Edit: they are incapable of lying, but deception is within their abilities. They will always tell the truth, but it may not be the whole truth kind of thing
The problem with "The Three-Body Problem" is that it takes many ideas from modern physics but twists them all into something unphysically: Quantum entanglement does not violate relativity, therefore no communication faster than the speed of light is possible with it. String theory predicts the existence of extra dimensions, but none of them have been found: In fact it's the other way around: String theory acually does not predict the existance of extra dimensions from higher principles, it had to be extended with them because string theory fails miserably in 3+1 dimensions, so these extra dimesions are introduced ad hoc. And the list goes on and on. As much as I enjoyed Liu Cixins fresh ideas, he's always takein them a step too far -- but implies that this is actually real physics. It's not.
Really smart sci-fi UNTIL... *Trisolarans: "We do not understand deception. Why does the Big Bad Wolf dress like grandmother? Why doesn't he just eat Little Red Riding Hood?? We would like to speak with him..."* (two minutes later) *Also the Trisolarans, dressed like a hot chick with a samurai sword: "You are bugs."* *Humanity: "So you don't understand deception... but you understand catfishing??"* *Trisolarans: "Why do you fish for cats??"* *Humanity:* 🤦
Really smart sci-fi UNTIL... Can open 11 dimensions and create planet size super computer there and bring it back and send to earth, but instead of creating or finding or terraforming another planet, choose to travel 400 years just to make war and conquer a suicidal species? These alien need more imagination.
@@vuzereusazureus2245 Dude todays mankind has created AI that can write and make a movie with just a prompt but we are still stomped by viruses. We send people into space but can only cross our fingers that nobody’s carrying a viral infection that would wipe out all the astronauts. In other words, science is met with obstacles to “obvious solutions” all the time and at the same time, certain fields find less friction allowing faster progress.
@@vuzereusazureus2245 Seems like the San-Ti's limitation is a lack of imagination. Which is plausible given the structure of their society and ideological rejection of any activity or form of existence that isn't purely practical. Humans, for all our flaws, differ by being incredibly imaginative, and often much to our own detriment.
the book is so much more complex that i had to keep rewinding to understand 😭 and now i know why the show confused me a little too. they truly left out great details and mixed the books together
if sometimes hard to convey complexity like that in a visual way that doesn't just bog the show down imagine Lord of the rings if they did all the plot points in the books in the order that they are in the books Like it would have been 50 movies that are all 3 hours. And a lot of it would have just been like minutiae but when you read it you go through it so fast it doesn't feel like that but on screen things takes longer and abstract unspoken complexity takes a long time to convey
Exactly what I needed thank you!!! A bridge between the books and the show as a nonreader who wants to know everything that happens. Why did the trisolarians break their truce after book 2?
the whole premise for the invasion doesn't make sense when you consider that they could just create space stations around a star in their system that maintains stable orbits actively around the suns. they could avoid unstable periods easily in that case and wait them out on such stations more easily than travelling for 400 years to another planet. they would have discovered this long before interstellar travel would have been and not really be in any existential Sophie's choice of falling behind while going to earth or stay and reset again.
If they can travel space they can certainly build a spaceship to live on but guessing they want a planet home base. This is a realistic high tech take on an invasion. It's more cerebral than aliens, the thing, invasion of body snatchers, independence day style invasion. It's a fresh take on taking over earth.
there is literally no orbit with this specific 3 body system (3 stars of relatively similar mass) that would be stable. Eventually, any other body in their orbit, whether planets or space stations, would experience chaos and destruction.
It bothers me endlessly that the Trisolarans can manipulate multiple dimensions and alter physics on earth 400 light years away, but they can't harness the energy from one of their three suns to solve their little climate problem? Urghh.
Their planet would eventually be swallowed by one of the stars. Could they solve this with their superior technology? Probably. Eventually. If they could do it before the star destroyed their planet. But there's a stable, paradise planet, only 4 light years away, which by galactic standards is right next door. Plus, that planet is home to a much less developed, defenseless civilization. So invanding Earth is probably a simpler and less costly solution, that would award the Trisolarans with a beautiful, stable and resource rich planet for them. Besides, when they found out that there was a technological civilization on Earth that could develop their science at a faster rate, it became a matter of survival for the Trisolarans to invade and destroy humanity. If they let humanity develop freely, one day humans would find Trisolaris and the resulting contact could be disastrous for Trisolarans.
@@vishnudasks in the book the sophon can’t even unfold for extended period without it sagging, they had to prop it up at some point I think 🤔 don’t quote me on it tho lol. Also remember the super computer it’s still just a proton thus very little mass.
its all a matter of perspective, isn't it? For earth, sure he's a hero. For his own species, he's a villain. Just like ye wenjie, humanity's greatest villain and trisolaran's greatest hero.
I love how people have so many issues about the alien invasion, and how and what the humans are doing. People it’s a story, just a story. You have to have things that happen so the story can be interesting also, since it a fictional piece… is a show! Trying to break it down to real world situations is just hilarious. As long as it flows well and has some fun parts even if it’s not believable, again… it’s a story and only a story meant to entertain.
@thearmchairjournalist566 yeah and only to current scientific principles which are a few hundred years old. The iPhone 100 might have quantum entanglement communication but currently to us it's impossible and outrageous 🤣
glad u are covering this! Ill never get enough. im reading redemption of time now. the emtflix adaptation is really well done. the books can get boring and linger on unimportant details and the show knows what is important to the story.
Thank youuuu for your great work on this piece 💕 it’s really inspiring and so well done 👍 keep up with your amazing work my dear friend 🙂 thank youuuu and thank youuuu
THE SHIP BEING SLICED WILL FOREVER REMAIN ON REPLAY IN MY MIND THAT WAS A BRUTAL SCENE
The series was terribly boring for a large part but it had some very memorable scenes like that.
I thought they was going to do a ghost ship.. with the tension line..
But geez cheese.. it spaghettified the entire ship... That was both awesome but terrifying
@@grahamsimpson9086 There was nowhere to hide at least ghost Ship you had a chance i still shiver thinking about it
The kids bruh
It was really well done, but it's child's play compared to scenes that are coming the next two seasons. I don't think people are prepared for how wild this story gets.
Thank you! This is exactly the kind of video explainer I've been looking for. One that isn't afraid of book spoilers and explains how the filmmakers mixed the plot and characters of all three books together. Excellent summary!
Check out Quinn's Ideas, he has a whole playlist on this series. Best on UA-cam.
@seanstone9078 came here to say the same. listened to hundreds of hours of quins ideas while drifting off to sleep
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As always you do a relentlessly amazing job. I could not bring myself to finish the book series because it was way too complicated and over my hand. You do an amazing job explaining that. Thank you for all your hard work. Much appreciated.
I love this series! I read the books years ago when I was a teen and some things weren’t clear, I appreciate the in depth reviews like this one because you do go into detail and it sparks something inside of me like wanting to read these types of books again.
You should do a collab with @Quinn's Ideas !!
Quinn is the man. He's the one who turned me on to the remembrance of Earth's past trilogy to begin with. And that series changed the way I think about space and aliens and the Fermi paradox. The Netflix show is all right. I'm glad a lot of people get to experience the series.
HE IS THE BEST! He got me in to three body
Quinn got me into the books. I love his takes on alot of stories like hyperion and especially the Shrike. Didn't know about any of those until I saw Quinn's videos.
Quin is the GOAT started reading the books because of him
They should have a pobcast
The least realistic thing in the show is the idea that a sophon supercomputer could predict a clear night sky in England so we would see the stars blink that night
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Oh but the invisible woman capable of killing wasn’t
@@jacksperrow4776are you artistic?
@@lucre113you mean autistic?
Wildly detailed breakdown of this!! .... also - does anyone ever talk about the dehydration/rehydration idea being related to tardigrades (because those adorable creatures can survive in a dehydrated state - within reason - and then rehydrate swimmingly.....)
That's the water bears right? That can survive in space?
@@RINO92xxl, it can survive in space but there's no food in space
I think Netflix did a good job with capturing the key elements of the books, giving us multiple plot threads, wrapping up some of those threads while leaving a little bit of bread crumbs for hope of another season.
Today's era of streaming is still a gamble if a show can ever be a cultural icon.
Game of Thrones was iconic
Until it wasn’t
You've no idea. The Netflix version just doesnt make sense for the story. If sophon is that powerful, can hack and erase/edit image of CCTV; can hack all the screen in the world; just destroy all the computers (or the display) on the world, why bother disturb the particle collider results?
@@stefenleung my guess as a non novel reader, would be to slow down Humanity's understanding of multi dimensional physics, quantum entanglement, and operation of small particles.
The Aliens have a grasp of unfolding a photon to planet size, then collapse it down. Humans can catch up very quickly given our logarithmic technology scaling.
Given 400 years, we could make our own sophons. While the aliens are in a dehydrated hibernation state of travel, they fear humanity will catch up to their level when they arrive in 400 years.
It’s a much better adaptation than I was expecting. It works very well. Some of the character stuff has actually been improved imo. There are things from the book that are going to be impossible for the Netflix series to do, but I think they did a great job.
This review is insanely well done. All the other reviewers can eat your dust on this one.
This channel and the vile eye are miles above anyone else in the movie/series/characters genre !
Major props for fitting the Netflix show the Chinese version and the books, so seamlessly together and the visual conceptions of all we have yet to see on the show.
Loved your take on the 3 body problem and other reviewers should take note. This is how you do an enjoyable review. 💯
Niyat is da bomb when it comes to reviews, he goes that extra mile to ensure he gets the full story and any back story available for context. I’ve been watching him for years now and am in awe of his talent in making his videos interesting and the content understandable for any layperson to grasp without being boring. He deserves a main stream job and I don’t know why they haven’t snaffled him up yet!
this isn't a review, it's a plot summary of the trilogy
It’s good but it would never make me read the books. One video from Quinn’s Ideas and I instantly made the purchase and read.
This show did a grwat job showing how mundane events and subtle human interactions are context dependent. A simple fish swimming in a bowl or conversation on a beach or park bench becomes epic under the new circumstances. Love it.
This show scared the crap out of me, it’s the most realistic take to an alien invasion I’ve ever witnessed. Literally made me wonder if we should be so curious…
Too late, we already sent a shit ton, its been around 50 or so years since then, so its doubtful we're gonna receive any news about our destruction. 50 yrs a very short time btw. Humanity destroying themselves up would be much milder than an alien attack.
The most logical thing for a lifeform to achieve is the guarantee of survival by any means, this seems to me at least the essence of true immortality when the enemy is time
Yeah that folding human scene…
Most realistic take on an alien invasion is them lobbing bolides at the Earth from the safe standoff distance of our own asteroid belt, reducing our civilization into rubble so they can come and mop up the remnants with ease.
@@joshl6275Tri-solaris did try to do that but they weren’t entirely successful. Quinns idea explores this on detail.
so your telling me the aliens can make 11th dimensional computers but cant figure out how to terraform a different planets??
Apparently not, that's why they were so careful with not damaging or allowing humans to damage earth
It's explained in the books better
Terraforming is scfi thing there is no evidance that this is smth what could ever happeend in short time
@@nextowayneb7319 Well, half of the things you're watching in this video are scifi things, not to mention that we currently have (admittedly very limited) terraforming capabilities ourselves as a species.
Talking about the "nuking the Poles of our moon to bring back the water" idea.
@@giaktour mars not the moon
Only 7 mins in, but reminds me of a game called Terra Invicta.
Game has multiple factions with different goals, one of them, "the servants" aim to give the world over to the aliens, which sounds like these weirdos.
They're also, by far, the easiest to play and win as. You'd think it'd be hard, with all the other factions thinking it'd be wise to sweep you from the board.
@@iona2225 yeah, when the aliens just give you bits of a country for free, followed by tech its beyond easy mode. Basically just a tutorial to learn game mechanics.
I got my kid into that game and she is a geography freaking ace now.
@@middleagedbaldguy6774 Thats how I was with paradox games. surprisingly helpful.
There’s actually a TBP mod for the game called Trisolaran Crisis. The factions are renamed and reskinned and there’s a massive alien fleet far out in the system
Great breakdown, having been obsessed with these books for years I can say that the show is perfectly fine at what it does. There is a lot of unecessary scenes and dialogue in the books that I am glad they decided to change or omit all together. It's during the second and third book that the story really unfolds, that is where the real test for the creators will be.
Really good video, great explanation of the series and books all wrapped up concisely!
I said ages ago that you should be on a mill subs and you replied with “hopefully one day” well it appears now is that day. Well done dude 😊
Who the fk cares about what u said? Cringe as fk comment, inline with "you should have your own Netflix show". Bro stfu.
The reason they had multiple plots converge and added characters is because the books ARE NOT character driven like AT ALL. No one is going to watch that kind of tv. What they did made it watchable for the masses and it worked very well.
the fat man was very watchable when he did nothing and then died...
The masses are ignorant
They tought idiocracy was comedy
Yet it was a documentary on them
@@denifnaf5874 wrong
@@denifnaf5874 I'd have taken you more seriously if you'd said "taught".
lol, the show explain science very badly
Your work is always outstanding, but this one was really above and beyond.
I tried the first book long ago but could not follow it.
I finished the Netflix series, but felt frustrated with the feeling that I was not getting something important.
This video solved that problem. Now, I want to read the trilogy, and hope for more NF seasons.
Many thanks.
Books are very confusing. TV shows cut to the chase of the story focusing on a few key characters and the visuals really help. Netflix obviously spent decent money on this show as this kinda abstract sci-fi material is hard to adapt into a show.
This channel is amazing. The content here blows my mind (and saves me a lot of time) when explaining these stories.
Was a great show! Good job on the vid as always
Yes I just sat here and watched and hour long break down and loved it.
Quinn ideas had an over 4 hour one that does the whole series
We do get an 'idea' how the San-Ti (trisolarans) look from the third book. They're tiny not human sized - brain boy sees the inside of a ship, and the pods that contain them are like matchboxes. Makes sense when you think they are able to dehydrate. The bugs comment seems like a projection too.
They're little jelly babies, the size comparable to a grain of rice
So the comment by Wade makes even more sense about their ships being the size of thimbles. Interesting.
No, that was from the officially published semi-Cannon fanfic. While they could be bug sized, they aren’t the creatures from Redemption of Time because listeners' message would not have been possible in a hive mind where the seperate bugs are hardly intelligent. They constantly shared their thoughts, but each trisolaran was their own individual.
Thank you Niat! I asked and you delivered. Happy Easter!
Thank you for saving me the necessity of watching this.
This was very interesting to listen to. I loved the storytelling!
Love the show, I can’t wait season 2, hopefully soon 🤞🏼
*SPOILERS*
The reason why san- ti doesn't know about about lying or the concept of deception is because their head is translucent and emits colors when they are thinking so every san- ti have their thoughts shown on their head
They lie to humans. Deception is a lie and the countdown is a lie.
That is kinds cute ngl
@@carontorliak2760 its even cuter once you realize that they are literal bugs. But this and the comment you replying to are not actually canon, but derived through guesswork by a published fan fiction.
There is a hole in the plot though. The pacifist san-ti that contacts Ye Wenjie advising her of not replying back. How this pacifist would hide what he/her have done?
@@ProfesorMamelowskyhuh?? Their biology isn’t even known in the 3 book series…. How did you come up with that?
I've seen a few of your videos, I just subscribed. I'm really enjoying your breakdowns.
If any human ever deserved a fate like hell, it is the traitors of the ETO.
Old comment but I get it - humans are pretty awful, not as individuals but as a whole.
Rampant corruption and slavery of all kinds, it seems most people in the 1% are willing to damage and destroy the planet for their own financial benefit.
You did a terrific job. That was a great listen. You are appreciated.
Thank you 🙏🏽
JL
This is a great series! The scene in which Evans poorly explained, to the aliens, the aspects of a fictional story (Little Red Riding Hood) and made the aliens fear human lies, and perceive humans as a non-trustworthy species, shows how dangerous it would be to have a one (or few) individuals speaking with an alien race on behalf of humanity as a total. These aspects of the series, that make us think, is one of the main things that catch my interest. Evans did not take seriously his role and the fact that he was representing his entire species. He was informal, insensitive, lazy, delusional, morally and intellectually unprepared. Note: I am very curious about the young human assassin (can't remember her name). How are her actions coordinated with the aliens (to erase videos, etc) and how is she so strong and resilient? There seems to be much more to be uncovered (still watching). Exciting!
The assassin is able to do the killings due to Trisolaran interference of electronics. Seamlessly scrubbing her from camera footage. Idk how they remove DNA evidence like hair though.
@@thatprofessorguy8316 Thanks. I am still to understand how the small framed female assassin was much stronger than a large male human.
They always intended to invade and conquer the earth, it’s what made them abandon the humans they were using to help in that endeavor
Maybe through the “4 dimensional particle” that this video posits allowed a Middle Ages assassin to take organs out of high secured people. It’s somewhere in the video, didn’t understand it but it’s in there.
You got it wrong.
We Lie or Not, It does not matter.
We are just bugs to Trisolarians. It's like saying "that guy smell bad", has nothing to do with that guy's smell.
Thank you for suxh a detailed explanation and lovely graphics. Your work is much appreciated ❤.
Them Trisos getting 360 no scoped one shot at the end made listening to this almost hour long mind bending story explaner worth it 😂
Thanks!
The only thing that REALLY doesnt make any sense at all, both in the book and in the series...is scientists killing themselves because "science does not work anymore"
Seriously...that would be the most fascinating thing to ever happen to them.
Not if, science is your belief system as strong as say a religious belief, your whole life's work and understanding equalling nought isn't as exciting as you think, for some it would be inescapable.
Hallucinations can be very scary and maddening; drug induced, or psychosis-related.
totally, i would go and rediscover gravity and go full pythagoras
This is one of the advantages of the series; which puts into question whether or not that the scientists truly killed themselves or were assasinations by the ETO. Moreover, it also shows that it's not really the results of broken science breaking them, but rather the Sophons themselves.
I think this is a common misconception that isn't made very clear in either medium. Yes, some scientists probably killed themsleves upon learning that "physics doesn't exist," but I'm sure most of them died because the sophons caused them severe psychological distress or made them go insane.
I read a theory that the trisolarans are actually more like bugs the size of rice.
It's not a theory. Read the books.
@@Adminium21 it is a theory, actually. Cixin Liu never described the Trisolarans' appearance in any of the books he wrote. Any speculation outside of the three books he wrote is just that- speculation
@@Tristyn_WatermanRedemption of Time isn’t written by him but was given his blessing I guess. It’s not official canon, but it’s worth acknowledging
@@krokenlochen when did he give it his blessing? As far as I can tell, his feelings towards it is he has accepted that it exists. The publisher didn't give him much choice in publishing it. That, along with the fact that it retcons nearly every major event of the trilogy, means it has very little credibility as part of the series.
It's perfect if it was revealed they were rice sized. Being wiped out by an intelligent, near microscopic intelligent race is hillarious to me 😂
Finally the one person I’ve been waiting for to explain. 🎉🎉
This was a good show, so I looked into the books and storyline.. shitz gets crazy dunno how they're going to make it into a not depressing story! lol
the ending is inherently optimistic
@Ni-dk7ni this got a chuckle
The show was objectively bad
@@joeyfridaysobjectively? The reviews don‘t show that. On rotten tomatoes it has 79% review score and 77% viewer score. That‘s far from bad
I watched the Chinese version on the high seas. I can't get into the Books. I own them but I just can't enjoy them. It has everything I should enjoy but I can't do the books. I have seen over 12 hours of explanation on “Quins” channel.
This is a different take and really well done. Thank you 💯🇬🇧❤️
same here, the books might have some great ideas, but i dont think they are written very well
@@robertban871 thank you. Finally Found someone who feels the same x
Try the audio books. They were much more digestible. Quin has covered a lot from the books... but there's still awesome details he didn't cover.
@@robertban871 Poor charcterization. Maybe due tot he language/translation.
I bought the book on Audible. Quin recommended it to me. It's too slow and basically a sad take on human nature-greed, death, and ultimately destruction.
I prefer a universe that has hope and fear, good and bad, like "The Lord of the Rings" or the “Culture” series by Ian Banks. The Culture novels are what I enjoy. There are so many books, I won't read them all. It's okay for me to not enjoy this series. It's fortunate that "The Lord of the Rings" films are great, but the novels contain so much extra detail. "Harry Potter" is along the same lines, to a lesser degree. I love the "Ender's Game" series, to be honest. The first book is my favorite. Maybe one day I’ll be in the right frame of mind, and I’ll be able to deal with all of the existential dread I get from the implications of this book.
I have not seen the Netflix series. Maybe that will be my route in, like the "The Lord of the Rings" films were for me reading the books. "The Lord of the Rings" to me is nearly perfect. If we all liked the same things, life would be boring.
I don’t know where in the world you live, but in the UK we have a comedian called David Mitchell. He’s just done a history book that’s about 13 hours long on Audible called “Unruly”. I like history, but I don’t like being told that a book or a film is good over and over again. I tend to avoid it out of spite, I suppose. This time, however, someone I trust deeply suggested that I read "Unruly", and I didn’t regret spending a credit on it at all. It’s a very funny book, and if you like history or the English history of Kings and Queens, it’s a book that will make you laugh out loud more than once. There is some swearing in it, so I wouldn’t recommend it for anyone under the age of 15 or 16. Thank you for your advice. I might even try and listen to "The Three-Body Problem" when summer kicks in. 🇬🇧💯❤️🫡
This is the best concise summary of the books and show. Thanks so much for this❤❤❤
‼️‼️ Woah …Woah, Whoh ‼️
I think I might have missed nearly all the plot ….. while watching it twice.
🙏❤️ Love from Scotland ❤️🙏
Thank you, this video was the exact information I was looking for after watching the series. (Didn’t have a chance before now to watch the show)
i just find it hard to believe that a civilization as advanced as trisolarians haven't looked at their neighboring star and its planets a long time ago. Even Webb today has the ability to find biosignature from the light omitting off of a planet 50 LY away
I would say it's likely due to the instability of their world. They are a spacefaring race but their civilization is constantly being put into a dehydrated state for indefinite periods of time. It seems like their colony fleet could have been launched during the common era and it just so happens Earth sent its idiotic hello around the same time.
It's an interesting and fun series, but it's full of holes.
Yeah, they wouldn’t have even needed a signal from Dr. Ye. They would have found the Sun and its planets and packed up long ago and everyone would be speaking Trisolaran in the 1800s.
That's the hard to believe part? Not the dual vector foil thrown our way casually by the equivalent of Steve from accounting, humans creating pocket dimensions etc
@@mr.m2659 Im pointing out the inconsistency of the plot for the supposedly advanced lifeform. I'm not drawing parallels with the real world, It's fiction, I get it, the ridiculous part is the advanced aliens overlooking a planet nearby.
That intro (i mean the whole video, but particularly that opening) was very well edited
I just had to watch this again, excellent work Niyat 👌
Excellent discussion of the books
21:29
I enjoy the first season but my biggest complaint with not only Netflix but all streaming services, is the lack of episodes. This could've easily had 20 episodes and pushed the story, plus character development further along.
If you want 20+ episodes, I recommend the Chinese version of the show. It was a bit too slow for me, I preferred the speed that the netflix version went with, but you might like the pacing.
@@wooloosus6866where can I watch this version ?
Killing the pacing, and costing more to produce focusing on the least developed aspects from the books might i add the least interesting would have lead to the cancellation of the series
@@canisgraffias199it's on UA-cam in 4k. Watching it now. Look up MIGu official channel. All 30 episodes with subtitles. I'm on episode 5. It is slow paced, but if you're already invested in the premise, it's enjoyable.
@@wooloosus6866 You're kidding there's a Chinese version? I don't want to be critical but I've always found Chinese movies and TV shows suck big time. They don't have big budgets, CGI poor, script and acting sub par and padded with lots of fillers. So is the Chinese version any good?
I just realized that ETO symbol of aliens with three suns are similar to Tau from Warhammer 40k. The aliens are Tau!
THE GREATER GOOD
The traitor humans are basically a genestealer cult.
I'm reading a novel right now called 'The sparrow'. It's in a planet named Rakhat. It is also a 3 body system.
In fact it's same alpha centuari 3 body system that the Santi live on.
This occurs again and again in science fiction.
The reason, is that our closet star system is 4 light years away, and it is the 3 body Alpha centauri system. Pretty sure it has a yellow sun, an orange sun, and a red sun.
This is why many of our 'closest neighbour' stories come from a 3 body system. It does exist.
@@bobhawke7373 And the Tau logo looks a lot like the Marathon logo.
Yes but the conditions of their planet being harassed by their three suns resemble the necrontier race before they were made into the necrons.
If humans had a large space fleet, then by implication they could have done scientific research on the fleet ships themselves, bypassing the Sophon block.
Similarly, if the Trisolarans had the resources to create a computer the size of a world, then by implication they could have created artificial habitats with solar sails at a further distance from their 3 stars, bypassing the 3 body problem without having to invade anyone.
There are lots of cool ideas in the series, but like a lot of sci-fi, you have to not think too much about it.
But for fun, some ways Earth could have fought the Trisolarans without prior information of their true abilities:
- send fleets of ram scoops towards the invading fleet, sucking up the space hydrogen as they go, thereby depriving the invading fleet of their needed fuel. No new physics needed, its entirely an engineering problem.
- research biological computers on space craft, eventually manufacturing such on space craft as well. These could then slowly replace conventional computers on Earth, with biological AIs that the sophons cannot apparently read.
- develop robotics to automatically mass manufacture particle accelerators elsewhere in the solar system. The Trisolarans admitted they used all of their resources to build just 2 pairs of sophons after all.
You have to use your intelligence to close plotholes rather than open them haha
@@RINO92xxl - perhaps, but that sounds too much like hard work for me.
This implies that the Tri-Solarans use hydrogen for fuel as opposed to having a mass fuel source stored on the ships and using fusion or another technology we’ve not yet discovered for propulsion.
Biological computers could still be read and disturbed by a sophon, they would still function off of electrochemical signals and the sophon is a lightspeed sentient computer.
Particle accelerators take billions and the robotics advanced enough to do that wont be available for another 1000 years to be generous.
1-how many resources would they need to build those habitats, also, if you aren’t aware of Dark forest theory I can’t continue on this because spoilers, but it makes this option not viable
2-Where is humanity going to get the industry for those ram scoops? Don’t forget Sophons are interfering.
3-The Sophons will stop this.
4-Humanity will not be able to build Sophons for as long as the San-ti Sophons are present
@@requiemlul3140 - Hi there. Just to continue the fun :-)
I understand the DF theory, so no worries there. But I don't think it is applicable here, as the fleet in open space would be far more easily detected. An individual habitat would be too small to detect unless they intentionally made them very large.
Regarding where the aliens would get the resources, the resources they have spent on the fleet and Sophons is presumably greater.
(quick note regarding 4 - it never occurred to me that humanity would build their own Sophons, which seem to be at the limits of the aliens abilities, I was thinking more along the lines of advanced expert systems, like what we have now, but more sophisticated and biologically encoded).
Regarding 2 - The abilities of the Sophons seem inconsistent, but if they can't stop the building of humanities space fleet then how could they stop this?
The industry you mention would have to be built up, but it would still be minor compared to what humanity ends up doing in any case.
Regarding 3 - The Sophons are bound by the light speed limit. We need to keep in mind how large the solar system is. If, say, 6 research vessels are several light hours away but in different directions (imagine a large imaginary cube shape around the Earth with a research vessel at the center of each face), then the Sophons have to make a choice of whether to interfere with collider and other science experiments on Earth, or to go after the research vessels, which they can only harass one at a time, and it would take the better part of a day to go after all 6.
Regards.
Brilliant!! This is a very good breakdown!!
I don't think trisolarans are implied to be similar in stature to humans. It's ultimately left vague, but the birthing pod scene in Death's End + the use of desiccation as a survival mechanism strongly implies they're smaller than us, and might ironically enough look a lot like 'bugs' to our eyes
Hello, I love your breakdowns as always. Glad your doing a breakdown of the show of one of my favorite book series.
In the future, could you do a breakdown of Apple tv's Constellation show?
Netflix every 2-3 years comes out with a great show and then doesn't give us the next season till 2 -3 years
As a long-time sci-fi buff (and someone who is smarter than the average bear) I sadly found the ending of the final book way over my head. It went from being exciting and clever to just confusing. Thanks for giving me the ending I didn't have the patience to find in the books!
**looks down on you as an above average bear 🐻**
LOL! AND you're old because you get the reference. ;)
“You know, I'm something of a scientist myself”
Say no more - trisolarans
Quinn ideas 💡 is what got me into 😂this but I love any channel that goes into the lore ❤❤❤ thank you
I can not Wait to watch this Entralling Eye Awakening series 🌞
18:25 acutally in the spin off book we do get to see the trisolarions.
They are actually quite small bug size
How small? Like ants?
@@jonfreeman9682 bug sized
Size of rice....as pointed out by some others@@jonfreeman9682
The editing you do for your videos is exemplary Niyat! You could make good money doing work for others!!
huh, sounds alot like a stellaris run. wicked
Great summary. Thanks!
Could you cover Rango?
Thanks for the explanation, FCE. The only part of that which didn't sound like pure idiocy was the dark forest.
Cool concept but my whole issue is how can a civilization with super advanced science and knowledge get whipped out every few thousand years and still remember that science and knowledge.
They don’t remember it when they get wiped out they have to start over again.
That’s Why Sophon was asking how long do you think it took us to evolve to the technological stage were at now and the Asian girl says a lot longer then us since they kept having to start over.
Please d0 a breakdown of Netflix's cancelled masterpiece Travelers. Love this channel!
Thank you so much. I never would have watched this.
Oh yea Netflix was never gonna capture such a complex story. Someone needs to check up on that writer... dude might not be human on the low
Problems: trisolarans are small like ants compeared to humans ,their size is around a grain of rice and they can live up to hundreds of years with the eldest around 800ish. Also it isn't just that they can't lie, the very concept of deception is hard for them to comprehand, that's why many human characters use sectret misgueding commonications among theme-selfes that they can decipher,but the lisening aliens can't and that's what they needed the reconstracted human from the brain they chached from the failed space probe mission, that was the way they could learn humanlike deception.
Uhhhh, not sure if its canon.
How’s that a problem?
@@kaseyrolow In the video he said human sized and live araund 80 years
@@tsarbombawithinternetconne875 the writer noded to it so it's cannon (technically)
It's never been canon. The author did acknowledge the spinoff book, but they've never said that it was canon. That's like me saying George Lucas knows about Star Wars Legends, so it must be canon. Also, could you maybe learn some grammar and how to spell? That was the hardest thing I've ever attempted to read.
Edit: they are incapable of lying, but deception is within their abilities. They will always tell the truth, but it may not be the whole truth kind of thing
This is super exciting stuff!!
The problem with "The Three-Body Problem" is that it takes many ideas from modern physics but twists them all into something unphysically: Quantum entanglement does not violate relativity, therefore no communication faster than the speed of light is possible with it. String theory predicts the existence of extra dimensions, but none of them have been found: In fact it's the other way around: String theory acually does not predict the existance of extra dimensions from higher principles, it had to be extended with them because string theory fails miserably in 3+1 dimensions, so these extra dimesions are introduced ad hoc. And the list goes on and on.
As much as I enjoyed Liu Cixins fresh ideas, he's always takein them a step too far -- but implies that this is actually real physics. It's not.
When you realize the ETO people are just permanently stuck in their teenage rebellious phase.
I like to think humans create stories like this because deep down, its probably memories of past events. Who knows.
Jesus Christ it’s just banger after banger video with this guy!!
Really smart sci-fi UNTIL...
*Trisolarans: "We do not understand deception. Why does the Big Bad Wolf dress like grandmother? Why doesn't he just eat Little Red Riding Hood?? We would like to speak with him..."*
(two minutes later)
*Also the Trisolarans, dressed like a hot chick with a samurai sword: "You are bugs."*
*Humanity: "So you don't understand deception... but you understand catfishing??"*
*Trisolarans: "Why do you fish for cats??"*
*Humanity:* 🤦
Real smart comment UNTIL..
She explained it in the show why she looks the way she does.. they are talking to a computer..
Really smart sci-fi UNTIL...
Can open 11 dimensions and create planet size super computer there and bring it back and send to earth, but instead of creating or finding or terraforming another planet, choose to travel 400 years just to make war and conquer a suicidal species?
These alien need more imagination.
@@Kemachris all other Sci fi's have much larger plot holes, this guy has a certain beef, wouldn't engage further
@@vuzereusazureus2245 Dude todays mankind has created AI that can write and make a movie with just a prompt but we are still stomped by viruses. We send people into space but can only cross our fingers that nobody’s carrying a viral infection that would wipe out all the astronauts. In other words, science is met with obstacles to “obvious solutions” all the time and at the same time, certain fields find less friction allowing faster progress.
@@vuzereusazureus2245 Seems like the San-Ti's limitation is a lack of imagination. Which is plausible given the structure of their society and ideological rejection of any activity or form of existence that isn't purely practical. Humans, for all our flaws, differ by being incredibly imaginative, and often much to our own detriment.
This was excellent
the book is so much more complex that i had to keep rewinding to understand 😭 and now i know why the show confused me a little too. they truly left out great details and mixed the books together
If you find audiobooks too confusing you should just read it, you can absorb the info at your own pace and reread quicker
if sometimes hard to convey complexity like that in a visual way that doesn't just bog the show down
imagine Lord of the rings if they did all the plot points in the books in the order that they are in the books Like it would have been 50 movies that are all 3 hours. And a lot of it would have just been like minutiae but when you read it you go through it so fast it doesn't feel like that but on screen things takes longer and abstract unspoken complexity takes a long time to convey
i think the reason they mix characters was to be able to tell the story linearly and not bouncing around
The tencent series was so Good
Exactly what I needed thank you!!! A bridge between the books and the show as a nonreader who wants to know everything that happens. Why did the trisolarians break their truce after book 2?
I suggest people to watch Tencent version. It is way more flesh out, more philosophical and overall just better.
Really looking forward to the next season...
At 27:07 that's clearly a Ruger 10/22 with a 25 round magazine. DEFINITELY tier 1 tactical weaponry! :-p
Amazing video
the whole premise for the invasion doesn't make sense when you consider that they could just create space stations around a star in their system that maintains stable orbits actively around the suns. they could avoid unstable periods easily in that case and wait them out on such stations more easily than travelling for 400 years to another planet.
they would have discovered this long before interstellar travel would have been and not really be in any existential Sophie's choice of falling behind while going to earth or stay and reset again.
If they can travel space they can certainly build a spaceship to live on but guessing they want a planet home base. This is a realistic high tech take on an invasion. It's more cerebral than aliens, the thing, invasion of body snatchers, independence day style invasion. It's a fresh take on taking over earth.
there is literally no orbit with this specific 3 body system (3 stars of relatively similar mass) that would be stable. Eventually, any other body in their orbit, whether planets or space stations, would experience chaos and destruction.
What an astonishing and epic story. I didn't realise such a story existed.
It bothers me endlessly that the Trisolarans can manipulate multiple dimensions and alter physics on earth 400 light years away, but they can't harness the energy from one of their three suns to solve their little climate problem? Urghh.
I thought the answer (or no answer) to a 3 body problem is chaos. Also in the book they were running out of time because the planet was breaking no?
They can wrap their entire planet using the proton thing.. then use it to control the climate
Their planet would eventually be swallowed by one of the stars. Could they solve this with their superior technology? Probably. Eventually. If they could do it before the star destroyed their planet. But there's a stable, paradise planet, only 4 light years away, which by galactic standards is right next door. Plus, that planet is home to a much less developed, defenseless civilization. So invanding Earth is probably a simpler and less costly solution, that would award the Trisolarans with a beautiful, stable and resource rich planet for them.
Besides, when they found out that there was a technological civilization on Earth that could develop their science at a faster rate, it became a matter of survival for the Trisolarans to invade and destroy humanity. If they let humanity develop freely, one day humans would find Trisolaris and the resulting contact could be disastrous for Trisolarans.
But they can’t keep it from being pulled into one of their subs during the multiple suns expansion periods
@@vishnudasks in the book the sophon can’t even unfold for extended period without it sagging, they had to prop it up at some point I think 🤔 don’t quote me on it tho lol. Also remember the super computer it’s still just a proton thus very little mass.
Amazing video!!!!!!!
Listener 1379 was a hero
Like a citizen of a fascist state who 'didn't see anyone' during an inspection.
Too bad the beneficiaries of his charity were suicidal morons.
Yup and Ye Wenjie is the actual villain that started it all.
its all a matter of perspective, isn't it? For earth, sure he's a hero. For his own species, he's a villain. Just like ye wenjie, humanity's greatest villain and trisolaran's greatest hero.
@@mambaASI No, the Trisolarans are evil.
Thank you very much for this.
I love how people have so many issues about the alien invasion, and how and what the humans are doing. People it’s a story, just a story. You have to have things that happen so the story can be interesting also, since it a fictional piece… is a show! Trying to break it down to real world situations is just hilarious. As long as it flows well and has some fun parts even if it’s not believable, again… it’s a story and only a story meant to entertain.
Please tell me leave the world behind and, the coming soon sequel, civil war movies are also for "entertainment".
I know right, it’s like if it doesn’t adhere to all scientific principles and moral norms it isn’t a good story 😂 Can’t anyone enjoy fiction anymore 😢
@thearmchairjournalist566 yeah and only to current scientific principles which are a few hundred years old. The iPhone 100 might have quantum entanglement communication but currently to us it's impossible and outrageous 🤣
Exactly. People seem to forget the fiction in science fiction.
Oh lord. You don’t realize that works of art usually have some underlying message?
This was brilliant and amazing
glad u are covering this! Ill never get enough. im reading redemption of time now. the emtflix adaptation is really well done. the books can get boring and linger on unimportant details and the show knows what is important to the story.
Thank youuuu for your great work on this piece 💕 it’s really inspiring and so well done 👍 keep up with your amazing work my dear friend 🙂 thank youuuu and thank youuuu
They figured since they torpedo their future in Star Wars they needed some kind of Science Fiction to cling to
What? Who torpedoed their future? How is Star Wars involved?
@@sjzara benioff and Weiss
@@madambutterfly1997 Those are the writers of Game of Thrones.
@@sjzarathey were supposed to write a star wars trilogy but they ruined got so they lost it
@@lifeinthe6038 Thanks for the explanation.
First love the videos keep going!
The Great Rip of Trisolaras must of took billions of years to recover from… was that their last major cataclysm?
Not sure but they're still standing at the end of the universe along with humans so they must be hardy
Mordern day version of War of The Worlds. Excellent vid.
Please look at The Ancient Enemy from The Phantoms.
Highly interesting, thankyou
the writer of this book series must have been high af when he wrote all that.. i want some.
The concepts are not that clever. He used science facts and made up a story, which is kind of limited IMO.
@TheGoodContent37 but it still outstrips most sci fi today, I would even say all Sci fi
Damn, I’ve gotta read these books