The Best Trailer for Your Subcompact Tractor
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
- It's Truck and Trailer Tuesday on Tractor Time with Tim!! Tim discusses things to consider when shopping for and buying a trailer for your compact tractor. What is the best length trailer for John Deere or Kubota compact tractors? What type of ramps are best? Should you get a Utility trailer or a Car Hauler?
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I couldn't cover EVERYTHING about trailers in a single video. Please understand this video is focused on 'entry level' trailers...the least expensive options. Unless the Lord returns, there will be more Tuesdays, where we can continue talking about all things truck and trailer related.
Amen Tim! Is there a trailer out there, in your experience, that is able to haul a JD 1025R and stone/dirt? Not at the same time, but making the trailer as versatile as possible. I've been looking and there seems to be one or the other.
@@goforce32 Tim has that exact trailer check out his video of when he bought his new trailer.
that is so true, I am excited for when he returns:)
Uh, mine is a dump/equipment trailer. I think exactly what you need :-)
A lot of the dump trailers on the market also come with ramps, Sure-Trac is one that I know of (got one). The dumps with ramps will most likely have swing doors at the rear and will probably have a weight rating a good bit in excess of a 1025. My Sure Trac also has welded in D rings in the bed for tie downs.
Thank you Tim for this trailer presentation. I had mentioned to you once on a post that a trailer was on my mind. With a trailer I could transport the tractor and implements to the Church to help with projects and also help out friends. It always a pleasure to watch Tractor Time, I have learned so much.
I know this has been out here for a while, Tim, but this is the first time I have viewed it. Absolutely terrific job! Thank you so much. Really enjoy all your videos. Stay safe and well!
Tim and Christie, Thanks guys, you're doing a good job educating some of us, trailers etc.. is something i never even gave a thought, i had a laser focus only on a tractor, this gives me something to think about.
Thanks Tim, great info. I am looking at a tilt be trailer. I have used a utility trailer several times, and I always find loading a chilling experience. I also appreciated the comment on the ramp for the landscape trailer. It always struck me that the landscape ramp would be insufficient, and you confirmed that for me. There was another video out there about loading on a slope that was very telling. Keep up the good work, and God bless.
Great explanation of trailers and related items. Tim, speaking of how attachments add to the versatility of the tractor, my dearly departed friend used to say, “One thing calls for another.”
Great information as always. I have an 18 foot utility with hinged ramps. The ramps slide so we can adjust the width based on what I'm hauling. It works great except for when I need to haul the Farmall Super C with the narrow front end so I had to get a 3rd ramp fabricated. It is heavy and hard to handle but I don't haul the C that often so it works out fine. One thing to add is that when having an add on brake controller added to your vehicle, make sure that the wiring matches your trailer. When I was working we had a fleet of trucks and a fleet of trailers and even though everything is supposed to be "standard" we ended up eventually having everything rewired because not every trailer manufacturer used the same pin configuration as what our trucks had and the factory controllers didn't always match the add on controllers.
Another great video, Tim! Thank you for what you do. May God richly Bless you and your family in all of your endeavors.
Thanks Tim. The video was well done. I had done a bunch of research on trailers before I bought my tractor. I have a 7x14 Vnose Kristi. It is taller so it also provides safe, dry, and rodent free storage.
Thanks for your review of the trailers as I was leaning towards the landscape trailer and now I will consider the equipment trailer.
Love all your videos. Very informative and just enjoy watching the jobs you do. God bless.
Thanks for the info Tim trucks and trailers is a bottomless topic but it is food for thought when looking at a new tractor of things to consider.
Tim, timing is everything! I’ve been considering buying a trailer to haul my 1026R with the backhoe and front loader. This video answered my questions! Thank you!
Thanks Mike.
Good info.I use a 20 ft car hauler and a 2003 Toyota Sequoia.The older Sequoias are often overlooked as tow vehicles.They are beast and built like a tank.
This video is very insightful. Its perfect timing for me as I am considering a trailer for my tractor for the exact reason you needed one, to transport it to help friends and family. Thanks for the information.
My reaction to the thumbnail was “oh dear!” Great discussion on trailer and tow vehicle needs....and get those requests in to the finance committee!
I like this series. Good information for people just getting into this type of stuff. Sorta like a “behind the scenes” type deal.
I had built a flatbed 12’ single axle (converted tent trailer) I used to wrestle two ATVs on. Went to a 16’ tandem utility (converted camper) and built a bifold ramp. Never looked back! I’ve hauled lots on it, the heaviest being a 2,500lb Vermeer mini skid steer. Brakes are a must!!!
Enjoyed the video Tim & Christy. That was interesting.and informative. God bless y'all. Take care.
Hi Tim, I was SO lucky to find a preowned but unused PJ trailer on craigslist. This was the Perfect fit for my LS subcompact tlb,and my 1/2 ton GMC. It tilts,so it has a low approach angle, and it is a single 8000 # braked axle, so there is alot less to maintain. I highly encourage viewers to look at this trailer,model T1. This is a GREAT company, they really take pride in their product !
Keep up the good work, your videos are always full of experienced info and we appreciate you sharing!!
Great video as always. Rule of thumb like most things (gun safe, work shop, project budget) always get the biggest you can. The dove tail is mainly to help approachment angle since it dips down. Essentially it makes the ramp longer without physically making the ramp be longer. I had an 18ft utility trailer at first. Perfect in length for me. My next trailer I went to a 20ft car/equipment trailer with a 2ft dove trail. So I actually have an 18ft trailer with 2ft dove tail = 20ft over all. (I also upgraded to 10500lbs load capacity)
Thank you Tim it help me out I have a utility trailer it has dual axles and I is it to cut grass I have talk about expanding into doing some more like want you do and your videos help me out keep them coming Brother and God bless
Kubota BX23S. Thank you for this video. Very/Extremely informative. Answers a lot of my questions. Howard
Great video, Tim & Christi. Your video definitely highlights things new tractor owners need to know. Sometimes there are package deals that a new tractor owner may be interested in. Sometimes dealerships offer a bundle (Tractor, FEL, Trailer, Rotary Cutter). Now, does the new tractor owner have the correct pulling vehicle? As you said, all of it is a part of the overall tractor package when purchasing, but must think long-term. The first item in order to me is the "towing vehicle" with a tow package (brakes, etc). The pulling vehicle does all the work (pulling, carrying, and braking). Enjoyed the full video, Tim. Thumbs up.
This is very informative and correct great job explaining. I have many years pulling these trailers and moved all kinds of stuff. That said i currently only have a 12ft utility single axle and in process of getting a sub compact tractor. I agree for most with little trailer experience that is just to small. But i have consistently hauled 3,500 lb on mine and my complete tractor will be about 3,100 lb. That is a bit more than its rating but i have no problems with it behind my Ford Explorer. The length as you say will be very cramped but i only hope that as the yractor starts earning its keep i can upgrade the trailer. In the meantime i will have to rely on my experience with trailers to compensate. Something i am use to as i use to haul pulpwood on a 16ft car hauler with my GVW running 22,000lb on the average. I was pulling that with a modified 1/2 ton chevy 4x4.
Good info on trailers. I bet this is going to help a lot of people, myself included. Thanks for doing this!!!
Thanks Tim and Christy. Stay warm.
Love the explanation of the differences, I learned alot.
I follow you quite a while Tim...and I got to say it is such a well made channel.....good and useful information and innocent humour ........it couldn't be better .Much appreciation for all you do for us! Cheers. Roger
Thanks Roger. Very kind!
Tim, great video! Per the many comments below you may want to address the idea of supporting the rear of the trailer for trailer with slide out ramps or drop tail gates. I carry blocks so when loading I don’t get lift off the tongue. Even on my 18’ dual axle 8000 pound trailer I get trailer tilt when loading if I don’t block it. Trailer tongue lift puts much stress on the ball coupler.
Thanks my suggestion of what to add. Jim
Thanks for another great video. Lots to think about with trailers.
Good stuff. I've been shopping for a new trailer for a while now. I've outgrown mine - thinking about going enclosed.
Good information, looking forward to next Tuesday!
I used to load stuff on customer's trailers at work. When people showed up with the trailer like your first example with the mesh gate in the rear, we would have to remove the ramp to load with a forklift. some were easy to remove with quick pins but I did run into a couple that were welded on.
Thanks Tim very informative video I have searched everywhere for the kind of information you have provided precisely for my 1025r. Keep up the good work and God Bless.
Thanks for the kind words. Keep watching. Check out our farming videos too. They might not directly apply to the 1025r, but many of our sub-compact oriented viewers are finding them quite interesting.
Very good video on trailer information. Brakes yes, Safety Chains Yes, Breakaway, Yes.
Hey Tim, another great informative vid. I just wanted to add a couple other considerations when purchasing a trailer to haul your equipment/material/auto's etc... The first is usage. You need to think about how many times you're going to use a trailer to haul something on a yearly basis. Purchasing a trailer per your criteria is an expensive endeavor if you'll only use it a couple times a year. Second is storage. Depending on your property you have to figure out where you'll store your trailer when it's not being used to transport your equipment. I have 20 acres of heavily wooded property on the side of a steep mountain so storage is a big problem for me since there is virtually no level ground except where my garage and house is. Third is insurance. Insuring a trailer is not cheap depending on the trailer's rating, whether it has electric brakes and what exactly you're hauling with it. Fourth is yearly State inspections. My State requires you to register, insure and have your trailer inspected every year which is another added expense. Fifth is upkeep. Like any mechanical device you have to maintain your trailer for safety like changing out the brakes, new wheels and tires, battery for the brakes, deck replacement and maintenance. Just a few items to consider before you pull the trigger for that hauling experience.
Great information. Just bought my land yesterday and will be looking for a compact tractor with trailer very soon. In the learning process now, so any and all info is great!
We have 400 episodes now to keep you busy!
The ramp I built on my 16’er is heavy expanded mesh with 1-1/2” square tube framing and cross members. Like you mentioned Tim, you gotta reinforce the drive-over area. Good news... I can drive a tank on it. Bad news... too much weight is on the back now and it sways when empty.
I think a VERY important topic is dealing with (and hopefully preventing) trailer sway.
I traded an old 4 wheeler for a dual axle utility trailer. I've used my tractor to shove dead cars onto it before I got it. Once I got it I really looked it over and found 3 out of 4 of the cross braces where bent or totaly missing. Only 1 axle was a braking axle and the 16ft boards are in need of replacing (Lowes doesn't carry 16 ft treated 2x10's). The barings are also dry as the Sahara desert, mismatch size tires, no lights, breaks in the welds on the trailer frame. Look over any used trailer with a fine tooth comb before you buy or trade!!! Also, My dual axle trailer has a 3,600lb weight limit. My tractor alone weighs 3,500lbs, then add the loader and any attachments in the back and I'm weigh over (weigh lol). I was going to tow it with my old E-150 Van witch technically has enough power but, I live in KY ware we have a lot of hills, a lot of really, really steep hills. Don't use a tow vehicle that can just barely do the job, it's puts a whole lot of strain on your entire drivetrain and unnecessary stress on your tow rig. If your going to tow on a regular basis, I recommend at least a F-250 or 2500. But if you live in a totally flat state like most of IN or KS, an F-150 works.
I have a 16' trailer with the drop down angle iron ramp so when I want to load a tractor I use two 2 x 10 boards the same length as the ramp and lay them on the ramp for extra strength. I also stain the wood floors annually to preserve them. If you have the slide in ramps keep the track they slide on greased to make it easier to slide them in and out.
I like the video and I would also agree that you don't have to have a pickup but it probably is a good idea to have one for example the breaking and and getting going sometimes too. and again thank you very much for taking time out of your day to make videos I find them very interesting
From experience, make sure if you have slide in ramps, make sure they have pins or something to hold them in! Our car trailer didn't come with anything, and the ramps fell out twice on the road before we took them off.
F150s have an optional factory towing package. Or you can add one super easy after.
Tim very good video. Lot of good information and advice for someone looking at trailers for the first time. My first trailer was a 16ft utility trailer I now have a 18ft utility trailer I did have the first one and this beefed up a little when I bought them I had to order them instead of buying one off the lot. I like you am starting to think about a larger trailer or truck I really not sure if I want a 20ft trailer I am also think of buying a cab over truck like an Isuzu NPR with a landscape bed on it. Thanks so much for the time you and Christie take to make all these great videos. Have a great week. God Bless!!!
Great video as always. I’m glad you shared how you started doing jobs on the side. I’m in the same situation. I have been loooking at trailers my 7x10 is great for tractor only but you add the loader and tiller not so good
God Bless from Plainfield
Great job. So many details are really appreciated.
Great video Tim i live in Minnesota we had a guy bring his chevy truck to a local chevy store he was not happy with the quote he got to replace his transmission so he decided to pick it up he made the local news when hi blocked a major intersection in our town with a chevy truck on a trailer behind a prius i seen it in person it was squashed to the ground it amazed me he made it that far have a great day be safe.
Hmm....coulda been our thumbnail!!! Too bad we missed it :-)
Great video Tim and family. I had one of those 4x8 trailers. Boy did I ever push the limits of that trailer.
Those are tough trailers. Everyone has a fit when they see those pictures but it has a 2000 pound axle and I still use it to haul a commercial zero turn.
I bought a whole tractor package which included the trailer, I highly recommend one if you have the room to keep it. Assuming, of course, you have a good tow vehicle. You will use the trailer over and over again, even more if you include loaning it out! Nice video Tim and as you may recall, I have an F350 like yours. Let’s be honest...you can tow a trailer with your tractor, a Honda Ridgeline, and a Prius on it...with the people inside. Ford tough. :-). Thanks for the video
I have a split tailgate on my 6 x 14 trailer and I love it. I ordered it that way.
great video -- thanks for the tutorial !!!
Thank you. Great info!
Thanks, very informative.
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
Very good idea to include these weekly videos which complement so well your regular ones
Nice video tim and success with buying a new trailer 👍
Tim, this is in addition to your video. I would recommend an "EZ lift" hitch kit for better trailering. UNLESS you have a tow vehicle that is heavy enough to NOT require one OR have air bag leveling kit. But I would personally recommend such kit for most towing of a flatbed trailer and definitely for RV trailers. It helps to reduce trailer sway and helps in balancing. Harbor Freight has a 1,000# hitch that is adjustable and comes with spring bars and all other required items. The hitch takes some of the hitch weight and sends it to the front tires for better turning traction. There are too many to list and to choose from.
Amen, those air bags are like $80 for a pair from Firestone and are worth the trouble to install them in the coil springs
Great stuff Tim....very helpful
Great video Tim thank you !
Tim:
You should make a part 2 for this. The first trailer you were beside has a hitch in which I would cut off, and have, garbage. Also the trailer when hooked to the truck on a level surface should be level, for towing. This is where a drop hitch or raised hitch ect comes in to play. The large screened in tailgate, creates a large amount of air drag. If towing any amount on highway can cut fuel mileage close to half. Many places require brakes on a 7000lb trailer on one of the two axles. 10,000 lb and above require on both. But this differs from State to state, and up here Province to province. Also the importance of >>>>good
Very good info Tim. Thanks!
Tim, your story at the end about helping your friends and not running a business is where we are. Thank you so much for these videos. Have you done any research on a dump trailer? For those times when you need to haul in some materials, or haul out waste. I have had a few gigs where I don’t need 5 or more yards of material, or have had to haul out 3 pickup loads of yard waste. My fall back on that is to rent it from Home Depot.
I own a dump trailer :-). It was in this video
I'm about to buy a compact tractor and need to be able to haul it. I found this video to be very informative and useful. Given the other videos on this channel that I have browsed, I am now a new subscriber. Well done, Sir, for providing great info!
Welcome! Thanks for joining us!
Although I'm not going to switch trailers, I would concur the 16' is a minimum if you are buying to haul a SCUT. I have a 14X6.5, single axle and it's sufficient but leaves a little to want for sure. I was able to fit my 1023 with loader and bush hog on it, but had to take the drag wheel off for transport, it didn't quite clear the gate. And although it still had some capacity left, I was close to max on weight. I originally bought it when I had my 445 with 40 FEL and needs the extra length and the three hinge gate because a two hinge gate wasn't doing it. However, since I rarely transport and most cases just with the loader, it's well within the limits. And it fits nicely in the 20X10 garage I have
Very informative thank you!!!!
I bought a 18ft 7000 lb tandem axle, with I call it beaver tail in PA and gate rated for 4000lbs at once for $2998. I haul alot of garden tractors or basically my gravely walk behinds or riders behind an 2015 f250. And is a darn good well rounded set up for what I do. Only thing I thought of is surge brakes on the trailer you missed. Not sure if new trailers are made with them or not but older stuff was good and no wireing to worry about ect with thoose
We have a red 18 ft Wilson with removable sides and its a great trailer for hauling hay.
Tim for you and your company I'd recommend a 20 or 24 foot 7 ton trailor.
Deck over so you can move pallets on it off or any bulk mat with forks.
Cuz you will get a bigger tractor eventually.. and probably a 350 dump. Last trailor you will need. Will hold tractor all attchments and hand tools..
You might like the load trail dump trailers. You can move equipment in it and it’s a real dump trailer so your gonna be able to move more material with your bigger truck.
Amen on the Scripture !! You did good Tim !! As you know we all run into different situations as we use our tractors ! Likewise we run into different situations when we use our trailers! With me I had to start small in everything and increase in size as I aged and increased my income! One thing I would definitely do is buy larger trailer and tow vehicle if you can afford it ! Very well done and interesting video Christy and Tim !! A pleasant change from your usual content!! I liked it !! You all be safe and God bless you !!!!! Eddy
Thanks Eddy!
Normally the tool you use is the one you have. I own a 6’x10’ dovetail utility trailer. I used it to pick up my 1023E with FEL. Backed it on, 3 point above rail and rear tires against rail. Closed gate and had 1” to spare. 😊 A mower would have been no problem. I expect it to be rare to haul my tractor but when I do I can. Truck bed is available If needed for something.
One thing to save space. According to GWT taking the bucket off and putting against tires under arms saves 13”. That was my backup plan if gate wouldn’t close.
You got a video every time I add “sub compact” to my searches. 🤣 It didn’t quite answer my questions but great video. Trying to figure out tongue weight and WDH is a headache. 😅 Being safe is hard work but worth it.
thanks for sharing the video
Awesome video. Very helpful.
Learned we in Texas have something in common with Indiana. Lake Texoma on the Okla Texas border is rising rapidly with all the inflow. The watershed was described as the equivalent to the size of the state of Indiana. 1 Lake, up 10 ft above normal.
Lake Travis outside of Austin, Tx raised 10 feet in 24 hrs. Lots of flooding in Texas.
Lake Travis Change Since Yesterday: 14.77 Feet
excellent vid, great job !
I just bought a 1025r and floated it home with my PJ 10x5 with the dove tail. I scaled it and the trailer axle was 2700#. I thought for sure I was going to have to upgrade the trailer right away. Oh and that was with just the bucket on.
Great info, thanks
excellent video. Purchased a compact tractor. Have a older model Ridgeline. Was hoping to avoid buying a another utility trailer have small one for toys but but really wanted an enclosed but may have to break down and get one
Hey Tim,
Great Trailer video. A good followup for this, would be to compare a standard car hauler, (7000 lb rating), to a heavy duty equipment trailer in the 10,000 to 14,000 range.
Then if you're really ambitious, open up the can of worms talking about trailer hitches. A very grey and fuzzy area for most people.
Yes, plan to
I bought my first 16ft 10k trl for $750 and used it 7 yrs and sold it for $400 after i bought my second trl which is a 20ft +4ft 9 ton equipment trl. I think i had scaled 17k once behind my f350 but normally 13k gross trl
Hi Tim and Christy very informative
I was late getting to the "Truck and Trailer" Tuesday as I had a bit of surgery Tues. am. That was a well done video Tim and Christi. You can never be as thorough as you would like to be in one video when doing something instructive. Some of the comments are deffinately subjects for future videos. I think the subject was covered very well for entry level. Well, that's who it made for and you explained that in the video. See? information retention is different for different people. There were CDL comments and they are no way related to the small trailers discussed. By the way, I veiwed a recreational vehicle video recently that explained how you can exceed 26K without a CDL. I was going to look into that later, I think I would have to carry a certified copy of the laws that allow that. Have you ever tried to explain Law to a Cop? Especially a young cop? I liked that cut of Christi hooking up the electric brakes! Talented woman you have there, Tim. God bless and see you 2 in the next one.
Great info guys!
Tim something else you can talk about is how to keep all the lights working. Always has been a problem, getting wires chewed thru or hung up on something. Lights falling out. I guess I do pull my trailer in the farm fields a lot. Ron
In tying any thing down, the tow vehicle will NOT be able to pull the trailer out from under the load, but the brakes have sufficient power to cause to the load to end up in the pick-up box. Tie down with that in mind,
I was driving to Florida a few years ago, and a trailer like the one in the thumbnail passed me hauling two full dress Harleys. I commented to my wife that it was was overloaded and the tires weren’t rated for the speed he was going. I didn’t hardly get that out of my mouth till BANG!! The tires blew and he started swerving all over the road. By luck, he was able to save it from crashing. I am amazed by some of the things people do!!🤣
I haul my B7500 with a bush hog with my Prius. I swerve a little bit when stopping and the wheels spin just a bit when I’m getting going. But otherwise it works really good and is delicate on the environment.
Another point when looking at trailers is the axle configuration. Spring vs. Torsion. Torsion axles are cheaper and get the same job done, but I have found floating spring axles to be the easiest/smoothest to pull. This also translates to less ware and tear on the vehicles suspension.
Torsion are more expensive, no?
I run a 7x14 Iron Bull tandem axle dump trailer with a Ram 3500. Comes with heavy duty equipment ramps. Drive the tractor form job to job. Load the material and haul it. Take it home.
Great video Here's a great point People Lights are on your trailer for a reason please make sure they work even better make sure there is even Lights attached to your trailer if money is an issue Harbor freight has a portable set of lights for $15 bucks $10 with a coupon. Think of others on the road Safety first, Yes trailer brakes on your trailer and Truck is a good thing LoL. Thanks for the video topic.
Wish I could give two thumbs up. Great video for newbies.
Excellent video!
Great video Tim!
Very helpful.
Great vid good info
Tim Christi very interesting most owners will need a trailer we are looking my truck is rated 10000 we had a yard of red granite the truck handeled it until you had to stop we beleve when toeing E brakes is a must
God Bless
PaK
Right on with the 16 foot. With the loader attached and a 4ft bush hog on the back a 16ft is just enough. Bush hog will hang off the rear just a little which is ok. Anything shorter than 16 you might as well forget hauling with loader and bush hog attached. Great informational video sir! PS....those sliding ramps are hard on the back. They force you to stoop over and use your spine to manhandle them. After 4 back surgeries I can say with experience anyone with back problems avoid the sliding ramps and go with the lift gate.